Could the Nuggets go UNDER their win total this season?

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The Nuggets were the favorites to win the NBA title until they were bounced by the T'Wolves. What will happen in Denver this coming season?

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00:00You said, with some of these teams, they're going to lose more than the market expects.

00:05Mathematically, they have to.

00:07I think that could be Denver this year, even if Jokic is just as good.

00:11I would only bet the under on the Denver Nuggets heading into the season.

00:14Where are you at here with Nikola Jokic and Denver?

00:16Yeah, I feel the same way about Denver that I do about Dallas.

00:20When you, and you could, you could plug either city or either team in all these statements

00:24and it's basically going to be true.

00:26When your best player is blank, Luca or Jokic, there's just a certain baseline with how,

00:30I mean, those guys play every game, like Jokic plays every game of the season.

00:35He's not, I mean, this is one of the things that makes him even greater is that he's the

00:39best player, but he also plays like 79 games a season.

00:42He just plays all the time.

00:44Luca plays a lot too.

00:46When that's true, everything else can be bad.

00:49There's a certain baseline level of success.

00:52That's just going to be the minimum.

00:53And I know Luca had like the two years ago season where they like tanked for the draft

00:56pick at the end and all that stuff.

00:57But you get the idea, like when you have a player like this and maybe that's what separates

01:01Luca and Jokic still, it's possible.

01:03But when you, when you know that it's, Hey, it's really likely there's like 74, 75 games

01:09of Jokic here, then that's like 48 to 50 to start with.

01:13Like that's just the starting point with that.

01:14And then it's what else do you have?

01:16Because you know, like Jamal Murray has had a bunch of prolonged injured, hot, cold stretches

01:21Last year.

01:22Yeah.

01:23Michael Porter jr.

01:24Is going to kind of be that the third guy who maybe makes a little bit too much, but

01:28can win a game for you, et cetera, et cetera.

01:30And they're going to, you know, like they, they have the pieces to hit the number, but

01:34it's just like, I kind of feel the same way with Dallas.

01:36It just looks a little too high with how good the West is.

01:39It's going to be around this number.

01:40Like if you told me they won 42, I'd be astonished.

01:42I'd be absolutely shocked.

01:44I'd be like Jokic had to have gotten hurt in order for them to win 42 games.

01:48Correct.

01:49And honestly, Dallas with Luca to a slightly lesser degree, but pretty similar Thunder

01:54with SGA.

01:55I'd probably feel the same way.

01:56And I think the Thunder could win a lot without SGA if they had to, but hopefully they won't

01:59have to this year.

02:00Just like, you know, should Denver's 52?

02:03Are they more likely a 50 51 win team?

02:05Is Dallas more likely a 48 49 win team?

02:07Those feel more reasonable to me just based on how good the rest of the West is.

02:12And it doesn't have to go that way.

02:13Like the Clippers, for example, who we'll get to eventually could like, they are a candidate

02:18to be one of those bottom out teams.

02:20So like if Kawhi misses games and, you know, Victor Wimbunyama doesn't develop at the rate

02:26and the team doesn't build up at the rate that everybody thinks, and they're just bad

02:28again.

02:29Okay, now you got your two teams, and then maybe you get an injury from somebody else.

02:33And now all of a sudden, you know, whatever, something happens.

02:36And you know, there, there are enough wins, but you can't start the season thinking that's

02:40going to happen.

02:41And you don't know who the teams are.

02:42And these could be the teams Dallas and Denver could be the teams that haven't have an injury.

02:45So under if I had to Dallas, I think I like the under just a little bit more, only because

02:52like depending on clay to be a certain level, and depending on Kyrie to be a certain level

02:56is still a dicier proposition somehow than depending on like the ancillary pieces for

03:01Denver, even though I would have questions about both of them.

03:04So you think Dallas more likely to go under?

03:06Yeah.

03:07And I guess that means you and so.

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