Fawad Chaudhry's big statement regarding Nawaz Sharif's politics

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00:00It's obvious that everyone has their own threshold to bear pressure.

00:05No two people can be the same.

00:08And they can't be the same in any decision.

00:10Every person has their own point of view.

00:12No, and the pressure is different everywhere.

00:14You were here, you didn't go outside.

00:17The big people were outside, they may not have an idea

00:20about what happened here.

00:23There are a lot of people who have seen what happened here.

00:26But if someone comes to you again and says,

00:31there's nothing like this.

00:33Look, let's talk about politics.

00:36The way of justice was broken with a lot of pressure.

00:39The shuttle service was going on.

00:41It didn't break.

00:42The shuttle service was going on.

00:44Come from Delhi, do a press conference,

00:46say goodbye and go home.

00:48And say that we are leaving politics, we are leaving the party.

00:50If the party was broken with so much pressure,

00:54is it so easy for them to let you come back?

00:56The problem is that there were four premises

00:59on which the whole system was based.

01:01The first premise was that

01:03Imran Khan doesn't want to spend a month in jail.

01:05And it will break.

01:06He will come out after a month.

01:07He will come out.

01:08It didn't happen.

01:09The second premise was that the party will break.

01:12The party told me on 8th February.

01:14The voters told me.

01:15The party may have broken, but the voters didn't.

01:18The voters didn't break.

01:19The party stands on the head of the voters.

01:21The third premise was that

01:22the Arab world hates Imran Khan.

01:24And it will spend a lot of dollars.

01:26The Arab world didn't get any money.

01:29The third premise was that

01:30the West hates Imran Khan.

01:32Our exports will go to 100 billion dollars.

01:34Mr. Gauhar used to say.

01:36He was our minister.

01:39Gauhar Ejaz.

01:40We will call him Barrister Gauhar.

01:41No, Gauhar Ejaz.

01:42It didn't happen.

01:43Now the problem is that

01:45in Pakistan, the truth is that

01:47the PTI has no end game.

01:50The PTI has no end game.

01:52There is no day-to-day game.

01:54The PTI has no end game.

01:56So, Pakistan is trapped.

01:58Now, the problem is...

02:00Where is it trapped?

02:01Let's put it this way.

02:02Controlled politics is going on.

02:04The country is running in a controlled manner.

02:07We are not free.

02:08But we don't understand where it is going in a controlled manner.

02:12Is that fair?

02:14No one understands where it is going.

02:16It is God's boat.

02:17It is moving.

02:18First of all, there is no visible leadership.

02:20We have power and decisions on the other side.

02:24Shabaz Sharif is visible.

02:26Now, if you remember,

02:29when Mohammad Khan Jinejo was made the Prime Minister

02:32and General Zia-ul-Haq was the President,

02:34he said that in the country,

02:35martial law and democracy cannot work together.

02:37Jinejo's principle is still being applied.

02:41Even now, the biggest problem in Pakistan is

02:44that we are in a democracy

02:46and freedom of expression is dead.

02:49What is happening with the Supreme Court judges is in front of you.

02:52So, the primary issue in Pakistan is

02:55that you have to normalize Pakistan.

02:58How do you do that?

02:59That is not happening.

03:00Imran Khan's inclusion...

03:01I say it every day that the establishment is very upset.

03:04Malik was also in your program.

03:05He said that he is very upset.

03:06He was in my program.

03:07Yes, or you were.

03:09You were.

03:10Malik said it.

03:11Someone else also said it.

03:12But they are very upset.

03:14But the question is,

03:15it is a country of 22 crores.

03:16So, we will have to find an alternate solution.

03:19Now, one way is that you have...

03:22But sometimes hope is a strategy.

03:25Hope?

03:26Hope has been going on for two years.

03:27It is based on hope.

03:28The problem is,

03:31what is your model now?

03:32The primary problem is

03:34that the current dispensation

03:36has not been able to give its model

03:38as to how to run it in the long run.

03:40You sent Imran Khan to jail.

03:42In the case of 9th May,

03:43you sent him to jail for 5 years.

03:45Where is Mian Sahab in the current case?

03:46I understood what you said.

03:47People also understood.

03:48By putting Imran Khan aside,

03:51there is no viable way

03:53that anyone can hope

03:55that this country's direction is right.

03:57Leadership plays a big role in this.

03:59Mian Sahab is also a prime minister

04:01for a big party.

04:02What would he be thinking right now?

04:04I think I understand Mian Sahab's thinking.

04:07That's the only thing.

04:08I have always been surprised by Mian Sahab.

04:11Ever since the day

04:12he decided not to hold elections,

04:14because honestly,

04:15when the issue of no confidence arose,

04:17General Bajwa Sahab told us

04:18that we will go and hold elections

04:22and take back the no confidence.

04:24I thought Nawaz Sharif would agree immediately.

04:26Because it was very simple.

04:27We were trapped in incumbency.

04:29It was unpopular.

04:30It was unpopular.

04:32The establishment had also changed its direction.

04:34So I said we will leave.

04:38I said okay,

04:39Nawaz Sharif will win.

04:40There will be opposition.

04:41We will do it.

04:42There is no problem.

04:43When Nawaz Sharif refused to hold elections,

04:46I was shocked.

04:48What did he do?

04:49Even after that,

04:50when 2-3 times Nawaz Sharif came,

04:52till now,

04:53Nawaz Sharif has surprised me

04:54with his politics.

04:55By doing nothing.

04:56By making wrong decisions.

04:57By making wrong decisions.

04:58Whatever it is,

04:59Nawaz Sharif has been in politics for 50 years.

05:01We are old enough

05:03since Nawaz Sharif was the chief minister.

05:06Now,

05:07Nawaz Sharif had the last chance on 8th May.

05:11On 8th February,

05:13if Nawaz Sharif had said,

05:14I have lost the election.

05:16You can make the government if you want to.

05:18It was a saving grace.

05:19It was a saving grace.

05:20Nawaz Sharif did not agree.

05:21Then he made the government.

05:22Now,

05:23the total politics of Nawaz Sharif is that

05:25he has to make Maryam the Prime Minister in the Noon League.

05:28And he has to give his politics to her.

05:29This is the total aim of Nawaz Sharif.

05:31Now,

05:32his total dependence is on the establishment.

05:34He has no total on the people.

05:36Now,

05:37I think that

05:38he is waiting for the establishment

05:40to destroy Imran Khan's politics and everything.

05:45After that,

05:46I will deal with the establishment.

05:47This is the only thing that comes into my mind.

05:49Another one.

05:50Hope is the strategy.

05:51Hope is the strategy.

05:52I don't understand any of Nawaz Sharif's politics.

05:54I understand this only.

05:55I don't understand anything else.

05:57Because otherwise...

05:58But Pakistan's politics is based on this.

05:59Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

06:00Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

06:01And it is based on this.

06:02So,

06:03Pakistan's politics is based on this.

06:05But the problem on the other hand is...

06:07See,

06:08I was talking to someone today.

06:11He was saying that

06:121.5 crore voters are being added in Pakistan.

06:14This means that

06:151.5 crore more young people

06:17of 18 years will be added

06:19in the next 1-2 years.

06:21Now,

06:22these young people

06:23and the average politics of PMLN is 75.

06:26There are no young people around them.

06:29Maryam Nawaz.

06:31Maryam Nawaz is not doing politics of young people.

06:34To be fair,

06:35Nawaz...

06:36She did a great aggressive politics.

06:38She did politics of young people.

06:39So, she did it once.

06:41But,

06:42because she did it according to her own advice,

06:44that I know what to do.

06:46She went there.

06:47She took the easy way

06:48according to her own advice.

06:49So, her politics fell.

06:51Now, she can do whatever she wants every day.

06:53She doesn't have a big story.

06:55So, in Pakistan,

06:56the truth is that

06:57she beat us all up,

06:58put us in jail

06:59and released us.

07:00And

07:01still,

07:02I think

07:03this is what's going to happen.

07:04Yes, but...

07:05I asked you this question.

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