Reserved Seats Case - Whose verdict will be in favor? - Experts' Reaction
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00:30He has submitted his written statement in front of the election tribunal.
00:35Our journalist friend, Mr. Mathew Lajan, has asked him about his Farm 45.
00:44He is very angry.
00:47You have submitted your Farm 45 in front of the election tribunal.
00:50Are they your polling agents or returning officers?
00:53They are both polling agents and returning officers.
00:57They are the same.
00:59We have collected the Farm 45 of my polling agents and returning officers.
01:06We have also submitted the affidavit of polling agents.
01:08Farm 47 belongs to the RO.
01:10Who owns Farm 45?
01:12Who owns it?
01:13Farm 45 belongs to the Presiding Officer Polling Stations.
01:16No.
01:17Why did you have the Farm 45 attested by the RO?
01:20Listen to me.
01:21The certified copy that we will get in today's date,
01:25whenever we need it,
01:27if any candidate needs it,
01:28it will be in the office of the RO.
01:29Why did you take it from the RO?
01:31Where are the Farm 45 of your agents?
01:33Of course, they are there.
01:34We have collected them.
01:35You are saying that they are half RO and half that.
01:37Why should I tell you how many I have collected?
01:42Why should I tell you how many I have collected?
01:45Hussain Chaudhry, our representative, covers the Islamabad High Court.
01:48We know him.
01:49First of all, tell us Hussain,
01:51today there was a case of NF48,
01:54yesterday 47 and the day before yesterday 46.
01:56It seems that Justice Jahangiri is in a mood to solve this case in a few months.
02:03What do you think about this case?
02:06How soon will it be settled?
02:09Look, Mr. Khawar,
02:11the hearings started at the end of April.
02:14Because when the appeals came in February,
02:16after that, due to the number of thousands of applications,
02:20there were many objections to the applications,
02:23due to which the formal hearing started in April.
02:26So now this is the third month,
02:28and there are only three months left,
02:31but Justice Jahangiri has said that
02:33he wants to settle this case as soon as possible on a daily basis.
02:39And the day before yesterday, he heard all three cases,
02:42but now he has divided them.
02:44Now he is listening to them one by one on a daily basis.
02:46Today, NF48, which was on Ali Bukhari's request,
02:50which Raja Khurram won the election on NF48,
02:54has been presented today.
02:56He has also collected his record.
02:58He has also collected Bain-e-Halfi.
03:00And he has been told by the tribunal
03:02to collect all the records to the registrar's office.
03:06And along with that, Justice Tariq Jahangiri has said
03:10that there will be no delay in this case.
03:12It will be a maximum of one week.
03:15And if anyone asks for a delay,
03:17then a fine of one lakh will be imposed.
03:20He said that this is not a civil court,
03:22this is a tribunal,
03:23and it will not be stopped from collecting Bain-e-Halfi.
03:25And if someone has done something wrong,
03:27then who is responsible?
03:28Hussain, tell me,
03:30there was a lot of issue that
03:32in such cases,
03:34it is not necessary to collect Bain-e-Halfi.
03:36An argument was being presented.
03:38What was its intention?
03:40And what remarks were given by the judge?
03:42And then it was accepted.
03:46Look, the video that you have played,
03:50the basic intention was the same.
03:52Because the RO,
03:54RO has nothing to do with Farm 45.
03:56Because Farm 45,
03:58has to be given by the presiding officer.
04:00It had to be collected from him.
04:02And Raja Khurram,
04:04he was also very angry.
04:06And he said that
04:08from wherever I get permission,
04:10so in this regard,
04:12Bain-e-Halfi was asked.
04:14Hussain, all the presiding officers,
04:16they get Farm 45 collected
04:18from the RO.
04:20And on top of that,
04:22the RO gives 47 or 46.
04:24You are forgetting one step.
04:26One minute, one minute.
04:28Hussain, one minute.
04:30Don't tilt one thing to one side.
04:32Talk straight.
04:34Hassan Ayub, listen.
04:36You have fought the elections.
04:38Yes, I did.
04:40Your brothers fought the elections.
04:42Yes, my father also fought.
04:44And you know that Farm 45,
04:46that polling,
04:48the presiding officer,
04:50you get it verified,
04:52and take it out.
04:54And one Farm 45,
04:56is with the presiding officer.
04:58Sir, listen to me.
05:00One presiding officer,
05:02has multiple copies.
05:04They are the same.
05:06Why are they so complicated?
05:08After that,
05:10the evidence is taken to the RO.
05:12The RO has
05:14a separate set.
05:16After that,
05:18the evidence is collected
05:20by the Election Commission
05:22within 14 days.
05:24Hussain, thank you very much
05:26for your time.
05:28I have a question.
05:30Hussain Chaudhary,
05:32the Supreme Court,
05:34SCMR
05:362007,
05:381400,
05:40has a lawyer
05:42given a reference
05:44to the Supreme Court's
05:462007 decision,
05:48Federal Service Tribunal,
05:50which was suspended.
05:52Has any lawyer
05:54given a reference to it?
05:56What was that about?
05:58Tell us.
06:00Has any lawyer given a reference to it?
06:02You tell us.
06:04No one has given a reference to it.
06:06It's a great blessing.
06:08You include other people as well.
06:10Let me explain.
06:12No, no.
06:14Listen to me.
06:16Mr. Nagvi,
06:18Hussain, thank you very much
06:20for your time.
06:22Initially,
06:24the common people
06:26don't know
06:28that this election
06:30took place.
06:32Polling stations are set up
06:34in our village as well.
06:36Polling stations are set up
06:38in the society where you live.
06:40Everyone knows how many votes
06:42were cast in that locality.
06:44For example,
06:46everyone is waiting
06:48to know who will win
06:50from our polling station.
06:52In the evening,
06:54we get to know
06:56who will win.
06:58This information is being asked for.
07:00That information is not being given.
07:02This is the fight.
07:04Mr. Nagvi.
07:06Look,
07:08the hearing is going on.
07:10Yesterday, a decision was made
07:12by the judge.
07:14He said that you have two days
07:16to submit form 45.
07:18Submitting form 45 to the court
07:20is the job of those
07:22who are against the case.
07:24Submitting form 45 to the court
07:26is not our job.
07:28The media has to see that
07:30this is not our job.
07:32Do you know how many
07:34people are in the National Assembly?
07:36Yes, I know.
07:38Earlier, it was 342.
07:40Now, it is 336.
07:42Because they emerged
07:44from FATA.
07:46How many are left?
07:48There are 313.
07:50There are 313.
07:52Why are you in a hurry?
07:54I am answering you.
07:56Answer him.
07:58There are 313.
08:00Two-thirds of 313
08:02are 208.
08:04There are 208 people
08:06after the ruling party.
08:08If the Supreme Court
08:10is trying to influence
08:12the majority,
08:14then it is not true.
08:16I will give you a clarification.
08:18You asked a good question.
08:20The court has proven
08:22that there are no special sessions.
08:24You asked a good question.
08:26I will give you a clarification.
08:28How many members are there
08:30in the Senate?
08:32You know that
08:34there has not been a single election
08:36in the K.P.
08:38because of these special sessions.
08:40You know that the majority party
08:42is there.
08:44My dear friend,
08:46the problem is that
08:48the majority party
08:50has two-thirds majority
08:52in both houses.
08:54That is what I am saying.
08:56That is what I am saying.
08:58The effect of these special sessions
09:00is on the K.P. Assembly.
09:02After that, when the election
09:04of the Senate will take place,
09:06the whole situation will develop.
09:08You explain.
09:10You explain.
09:12You have to answer.
09:14You have to answer.
09:16The Sunni Ita'at Council
09:18does not have these special sessions.
09:20This is clearly seen.
09:22The Supreme Court has to decide.
09:24Now, there are only 313 members
09:26in the K.P. Assembly.
09:28Now, there are only 313 members
09:30in the K.P. Assembly.
09:32On the basis of these 313 members,
09:34the decision of the Senate
09:36will be made.
09:38There will be a huge difference.
09:40There will be a huge difference.
09:42This is a legal and
09:44this is a legal and
09:46to rectify this,
09:48to open this Gordian Knot,
09:50to open this Gordian Knot,
09:52there is a full-court bench
09:54there is a full-court bench
09:56which has to decide
09:58whether the seats
10:00can be empty or not.
10:02There is a full-court bench
10:04to decide what to do
10:06with these 23 sessions.
10:08This is what I am saying.
10:10This is what I am saying.
10:12This is what I am saying.
10:16This is what I am saying.
10:18This is what I am saying.