Doston ka dost aur dushmano ka dushaman Asif Zardari, un k class fellow ne wo tamam baten bta din jo shayad kisi ko nahi maloom

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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum viewers, I am Shafiq-ur-Rehman at your service.

00:03The personality I am here with today is the biggest role model of my life.

00:11He is the source of light for many friends like me.

00:17We learned to see with his eyes and walk with his courage.

00:24I am here with Dr. Khaled Jameel Akhtar, Big Brother.

00:31Sir, thank you very much for giving me time.

00:34It's a pleasure. Thank you.

00:36We are meeting after a long time.

00:38Yes sir, after a long time.

00:40Sir, I have a psychological problem that only you know.

00:44The rest of the world doesn't know.

00:46I lose my words while talking to you.

00:49This is also a psychological problem.

00:51I am living in your shadow for 40 years.

00:54I am not talking about a psychological problem but it is your love.

00:58Allah is great.

01:00Allah is great.

01:02Allah is great.

01:04Allah is great.

01:06Allah is great.

01:08Allah is great.

01:10It is a great sign of a civilized society.

01:12Meet your elders.

01:14It is a great sign of a civilized society.

01:16I really enjoy and I feel proud.

01:18Sir, thank you very much.

01:20Sir, the main reason I am talking to you today

01:24is that you have seen the whole world.

01:28You have not only seen it but you have shown it to people.

01:32There are many personalities with whom you have lived your life.

01:37It is a long story, sir.

01:39People read your books and know about you.

01:43There are some aspects from which you have to unveil today.

01:48I am trying to ask you a lot of questions.

01:52You can ask straight forward questions and I will answer straight forward.

01:57Sir, thank you very much.

01:59Sir, you were studying in Pataro.

02:01You were studying in Pataro even before college and university.

02:07You often share an incident from that time.

02:13Mr. Asif Zardari, the current President of Pataro.

02:18Do you have any memories of him that you would like to share with your friends?

02:24Asif Zardari was in my house.

02:32He was a senior in my house for a year.

02:35When I was in class 8, he was in class 9.

02:39We used to live in the same house in Jinnah House, Credit College, Pataro.

02:45Zardari was known as Asif Baloch at that time.

02:52Zardari was added later.

02:56We knew him as Asif Baloch.

03:01The name which was famous at that time was Asif Baloch.

03:07Of course, Zardari is his caste.

03:11He primarily was a very straight forward person.

03:17He was a friend of his friends and an enemy of his enemies.

03:23Wow, so he had a personality from that time.

03:27Very clear headed and clear minded.

03:32There was no hypocrisy in him.

03:35There is a difference between hypocrisy and diplomacy.

03:42Let me tell you a famous incident about him which I have written in my book.

03:47The army college is very disciplined.

03:51If you feel that there has been some injustice in that college and you protest,

03:58then no one can even think about it.

04:01There was a protest in which the college was taken over.

04:08So from that day, Zardari took over the college.

04:11Allama Mashriqi, his son Waheed.

04:17He was a member of Haqsar Tehreek.

04:19Yes, his son Waheed was the founder of Haqsar Tehreek.

04:26Then there was Shah Jahan from Merchant Navy.

04:34Dr. Fateh, one of our famous urologists.

04:39His nephew, Asif Zardari and few more.

04:44So they took over the college.

04:46Yes, they took over.

04:47I remember, I am telling you the truth.

04:50We were confused as to who will run our mess.

04:54And the whole system got messed up.

04:57Sir, was it a union?

04:58No, there is no question.

05:00How can there be a union in the army?

05:02But despite that, you see, the rangers came.

05:08After two days.

05:09To get rid of them.

05:11Yes.

05:12Like their governments have been going on.

05:14Yes.

05:15So this is from that time.

05:17Yes, from that time.

05:18This is from the base.

05:20I am telling you.

05:21And I am sure, the boys from Pattaro, our batches must be listening.

05:25I have written in my book.

05:27And it has been 20 years since my book was published.

05:30But in all this, what I want to tell you is that

05:35their role has always been very determined, straight forward, to the point and a doer.

05:44So sir, when they took over all the institutions,

05:47didn't they get any punishment?

05:50Like now, you have seen that the politicians have been put in jail for 10-15 years.

05:54Yes, sometimes there is a punishment for that.

05:57There are children of generalists.

06:00Of other people.

06:01Obviously, like there is Edgerton College, Hasna Madaal, there is Pattaro.

06:04So all of them are children of influential people.

06:07So later on, people made excuses.

06:12By doing this.

06:14It ended.

06:16So this is a very historical.

06:18It is.

06:19Yes.

06:20It is very interesting.

06:22For many friends, it may be surprising that

06:26our respected President of the country, Mr. Asif Zardari,

06:31when he was in college, he took over his entire college.

06:35I mean, it was a whole group.

06:37Okay.

06:38It was a whole group.

06:39So sir, what was their attitude in sports and such activities?

06:43He was good.

06:45But it is like,

06:47like taking Wajibi Interest in everything.

06:53It was given there, right?

06:55You don't take it.

06:56I mean, games were compulsory.

06:58Parade was compulsory.

07:00Even eating mess was compulsory.

07:02Okay.

07:03Praying was compulsory, at least on Fridays.

07:05Okay.

07:06Sleeping on lights out was compulsory.

07:08So this was also compulsory.

07:10Imran Khan is a born celebrity.

07:13celebrity. He is a born hero. He is a very honest man. As a human being, he is absolutely great.

07:43I used to be very proud to have him known. He could have been one of the

08:12largest image builders of Pakistan in the whole world.

08:17But on the whole, I found him to be a very honest man, very dedicated and this is how

08:46he should be. He should be determined. I think he has been one of the real leaders of Pakistan.

08:59I take him as a very straightforward man. I have always liked him. He made an advisory council

09:12meeting in which Hassan Nisar and many people from their fields were invited to the governor's

09:21house. I was also there. When it was my turn, they told me to speak openly. I said okay.

09:31So I stood up and spoke openly. I said sir, when you took over,

09:36hold on. I did not take over. I said sir, when you were forced to take over.

09:50So you should not say that I am going in three months.

09:53I said you should stay in Pakistan as long as you do not punish people who have done wrong.

10:05We are not good without punishment. So he kept nodding his head in approval.

10:12When other people gave suggestions, we met again at the tea table.

10:21I felt that he had a lot of credibility and I remember that there was a function in Islamabad.

10:39I gave a presentation and Begum Sahiba was also there.

10:43You were also there at that time. Dr. Naseer was the Minister of Health.

10:50He told Dr. Naseer to give a standing ovation whenever he came.

10:56He suggested my name for the Sitara Imtiaz.

11:04The criteria for the Sitara Imtiaz was that I had to speak in front of Mr. Nilofer.

11:13Nilofer Sahiba was the Minister.

11:15Bakhtiyar Sahiba.

11:17My wife picked up the phone and told Dr. Naseer that we have to give the Sitara Imtiaz.

11:21She told him to send a citation.

11:23My wife told him to make a citation.

11:25In a citation, you have to write that I did this, I did that, I did that.

11:33I said why should I write it with my own mouth?

11:35I want to tell you this through your program.

11:40If you give the Sitara Imtiaz to someone, you should know what he has done.

11:44Why are you asking him what he has done?

11:48I said I won't write it.

11:50How can I write it with my own mouth?

11:52I wrote two lines and sent it.

11:54I said I have done some work.

11:56If you know what I have done, please give it to me.

12:00I didn't get it.

12:02I didn't get it again next year.

12:04You didn't do the homework?

12:06I didn't get it again next year.

12:09Then when Mr. Zardari came to me, I don't know if he got it or someone else.

12:17JL Zia was getting a chief guest at KE Medical University.

12:25The intelligence of that time gave information that

12:29I am the president of the union of this college.

12:33I am a leftist.

12:35I am from the people's party.

12:38There was a right party called Jamaat-e-Islami.

12:40The people's party was against it.

12:42There were only two parties in that time.

12:44They told me that I shouldn't enter the college.

12:50I felt very bad.

12:52I said I am the president of the union.

12:54The president is coming to my college.

12:56What if I don't meet him?

12:59What I did was,

13:05I took some girls from the girls hostel and stood at the gate.

13:11The president is coming?

13:13Yes.

13:15I said I will stop him when he starts going.

13:17I came forward and stopped him.

13:19President of Pakistan?

13:21Yes.

13:23Security was very tight at that time?

13:25It was very tight.

13:28What do you call passion?

13:30Yes sir.

13:32He saw that I was limping.

13:36I had met with an accident.

13:40I was still the president.

13:42When he left,

13:44he told me that this is the thing.

13:46I told him,

13:48if you come to this college

13:50and meet everyone

13:52and leave without meeting me,

13:54then you won't meet anyone.

13:57If you meet me

13:59and leave without meeting anyone,

14:01then you won't meet anyone.

14:03Sir, how can a person be so confident

14:05that the president of Pakistan is coming?

14:09He gave such a big statement.

14:11He was an absolutely great person.

14:13He asked me,

14:15you are walking?

14:19What happened?

14:21I told him that I met with an accident.

14:23He said, I want you to be like

14:26a Dr. John M.D.

14:28There was a series called

14:30Trapper John M.D.

14:32which was a very good doctor.

14:34He was very good to people.

14:36I told him that I will be like

14:38Trapper John M.D.

14:40but I have a condition.

14:42I told him that

14:44I am in a field

14:46where there is no doctor.

14:48He said,

14:50send me to England

14:52for specialization.

14:55I promise you

14:57that I will come back to Pakistan

14:59after specialization.

15:01Sir, this was at the gate?

15:03Yes, this was at the gate.

15:05I mean, this was the same meeting.

15:07Right.

15:09Within three months,

15:11Governor Jilani was the governor.

15:13Within three months,

15:15I got an order

15:17to go to England.

15:19I went to England.

15:21I completed my courses.

15:24I knew that I will not

15:26settle there.

15:28I came back.

15:30When I came back,

15:32I asked people

15:34that what should I do

15:36now that I am back.

15:38I went to MNIST.

15:40I told them that I have passed.

15:42They asked me what should I do.

15:44I told them that this won't work.

15:46Who will ask here?

15:48I told them to catch Zia.

15:50It was not easy to catch Zia.

15:53From Lahore,

15:55I went to Pindi

15:57on Eid day.

15:59He was standing in the queue of workers.

16:01In those days,

16:03they were giving 100-200 Eid gifts

16:05to everyone.

16:07When he saw me, he thought that I am educated.

16:09I told him that he didn't recognize me.

16:11I am the one

16:13whom you sent to make Triple John MD.

16:15I see.

16:17I have come back.

16:19I see.

16:21I was standing in the queue to meet you.

16:23You hugged me.

16:25I see.

16:27I see.

16:29He was very happy.

16:31I don't know how much he must have missed me.

16:33Triple John MD was such a word

16:35that it must have stuck with him.

16:37At that time, he asked his ADC

16:39to give me a letter

16:41in the name of Namaz Sharif.

16:43Namaz Sharif primarily

16:45is a very kind hearted

16:47and far sighted person.

16:49I see.

16:51I have met him many times.

16:53I have seen that he is very compassionate

16:55and understanding.

16:57He doesn't break things.

16:59He unites them.

17:01Mr. Namaz Sharif?

17:03He was the Chief Minister of Punjab at that time.

17:05I rushed back to Eid

17:07with that letter.

17:09I had a very difficult time.

17:11It was very difficult to meet Mr. Namaz Sharif.

17:13Yes.

17:15It was very difficult.

17:17Then again, I waited.

17:19He kept coming.

17:21I think he came to

17:23my hospital after a week or so.

17:25I rushed there.

17:27I see.

17:29He held my hand.

17:31I told him two things.

17:33I said, sir, I have been handed over to you.

17:35My intentions

17:37can go wrong at any time.

17:39They will harass me if I run away.

17:41I see.

17:43It is very important for me to get a government house.

17:45Right.

17:47In GUR.

17:49Secondly, I don't need any

17:51promotion or money.

17:53Just give me a room and an office in your hospital.

17:55I will develop it.

17:57I see.

17:59He told

18:01the Secretary of Health

18:03at that time

18:05that

18:07I got a house in GUR 3

18:09and a room

18:11in your hospital.

18:13I started with a room

18:15and made a department.

18:17You introduced sports medicine

18:19to Pakistan.

18:21I was a good player.

18:23I was

18:25Pakistan's number 2

18:27and Pakistan's number 1

18:29in 110 metres.

18:31Sports medicine

18:33was a passion of mine.

18:35I couldn't play by myself.

18:37I said, I will make people play.

18:39I will make those who play better.

18:41Sir, how did you get into an accident?

18:43My friend's brother

18:45got married in Lahore.

18:47In Cavalry ground.

18:49The wedding was in Pindi, Islamabad.

18:51We attended the wedding

18:53and by road

18:55we were going to Pindi.

18:57After Jhelum,

18:59it started raining.

19:01In Gujar Khan,

19:03our car got into an accident

19:05with a truck.

19:07The driver

19:09was safe.

19:11My cousin was sitting in the front.

19:13I was sitting in the front.

19:15He got injured.

19:17His legs were long.

19:19I offered him

19:21to sit in the front.

19:23I sat in his seat.

19:27My uncle was sitting with me.

19:29He died there.

19:31My back was broken.

19:33When the truck

19:35exploded,

19:37it became silent.

19:39Everything

19:41moved back and forth.

19:43I thought there were two legs on the front seat.

19:47I put my hand

19:49on his face

19:51so that I don't get hurt.

19:53I pulled his legs.

19:55I pulled

19:57his legs.

19:59My back pained.

20:01I thought these were my legs.

20:03The explosion

20:05of the truck

20:07pushed my legs up.

20:09My back broke.

20:13At that time,

20:15I was a medical student.

20:17I realized

20:19what had happened to me.

20:21You realized it at that time?

20:23Yes.

20:25I realized I was not well.

20:27Sir, at that time?

20:29Within three seconds.

20:31I realized that the truck

20:33was standing there.

20:35It was raining.

20:37It had fallen down.

20:39People were passing by.

20:41A truck stopped.

20:43There was a captain

20:45inside the truck.

20:47He asked me,

20:49how can I help you?

20:51I told him,

20:53if you want to help me,

20:55help me completely.

20:57Don't do it alone.

20:59If you take me to the local hospital

21:01my back will break.

21:03I realized what had happened to me.

21:05You

21:07take me out of the truck

21:09so that my back

21:11doesn't break.

21:13I don't have a bend.

21:15I think I will be fine.

21:19I told him,

21:21one person is in the middle.

21:23He took me out.

21:25I told him,

21:27I am going to Lahore.

21:29I told him, you will go to Lahore for the rest of your life.

21:31If you

21:33go to Pindi

21:35CMA for me,

21:37it's an hour's drive from there.

21:39Yes, sir.

21:41I think he

21:43just liked my innocence.

21:45He

21:47took me to Pindi.

21:49Sir, you had so much communication

21:51during the injury.

21:53I remember.

21:55I remember

21:57I was lying on the back seat.

21:59I knew how to keep my legs.

22:01I used to faint.

22:03I used to feel it.

22:05I used to feel it.

22:07I used to feel it.

22:09I should not fall down.

22:11I will tell you

22:13about my mother's

22:15love.

22:17When my mother came,

22:19the doctor said, her back is broken.

22:21He said, don't let her

22:23move.

22:25So,

22:27I didn't have much idea.

22:29So, I told my mother again and again,

22:31I want to get a curvert.

22:33She said, I will check again and again.

22:35When I

22:37told her a lot, she said, wait.

22:39I will go and see

22:41if anyone is coming.

22:43Then she came and said,

22:45no one is coming, take her.

22:47That curvert

22:49gave me a lot of courage.

22:51She never

22:53gave up.

22:55That curvert gave me a lot of courage.

22:57Compression.

22:59Sometimes,

23:01true love,

23:03if their

23:05direction is not right,

23:07it causes a lot of loss.

23:09Thank you very much, viewers.

23:11Please allow your host Shafiq Rehman.

23:13Keep watching Delhi Pakistan

23:15so that the series of love continues.

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