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IR Interview: The Creatives & Star Of "WondLa" [Apple TV+] - Part II
The Inside Reel
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7/1/2024
Series Showrunner Bobs Gannaway, Voice Actress Jeanine Mason and Book Author Tony DiTerlizzi talk to The Inside Reel about approach, thematics, structure and the evolution of technology in regards to their new animated series: "WondLa" on Apple TV+.
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00:00
What if I'm alone?
00:13
What if I'm the only one?
00:14
However, you're not alone.
00:15
Someone out there wants me to find them.
00:16
Time to jump!
00:17
Ever!
00:18
I think that's the great thing about science fiction, having talked to many people who
00:41
have started or made it, it's about that optimism, it's about looking forward with a sense of
00:45
hope, which is beautiful, and I've seen that a lot lately.
00:50
Can you talk about using genre to do, specifically animation, to show these worlds and how they
00:56
do it?
00:57
Because obviously looking at these, how much did you understand the visual of what you
01:01
were shown, what was going to happen versus the books?
01:05
Because those are, it's two different things in your mind's eye.
01:08
Totally, to an element you're thinking, okay, I know this creature is a water bear, and
01:14
I can imagine that's really big, but then to see the renderings come back and to see
01:20
the, then get them animated, it was, oh my God, it was, it's just like the best gig ever.
01:26
You feel like, you know, you're literally in the ideal expression of like, what would
01:29
it get to be an actor?
01:30
And that's like, what would getting to be an actor look like?
01:33
And it's like getting to live in imagination, and it does sort of feel like everybody is
01:37
just like a kid in this collaboration.
01:39
Everybody's so excited about, ooh, what if it did this, or what if it made this sound?
01:44
That's all just so fun to get to be a part of realizing, you know?
01:49
But I am absolutely drawn to science fiction.
01:52
And I think right now is a beautiful time in our world for us to sit with science fiction
02:00
and to allow it to help us to go, the world is changing.
02:03
We feel always as if we're on a precipice of some sort or another, and whether we are
02:06
right now in 2024, you know, with technology and AI and everything is obviously up for
02:12
debate, you know?
02:12
But when I look back historically, we've always felt like we're on a precipice of something.
02:16
So to sit with your kids and assure them that the world is changing, but there is every
02:23
reason to be hopeful, and they are equipped to handle and adapt and thrive.
02:28
I feel like every generation is the right time for sci-fi, but I'm partial that right
02:32
now feels like a specific, particularly important time.
02:34
Hey, he's a friend.
02:36
A friend?
02:37
Uh-huh.
02:38
Then what is his name?
02:39
His name's Sheena.
02:41
Right, Sheena?
02:42
Oh, Shisha, vile human and that evil machine.
02:47
Oh, we have had a day.
02:50
Eva, where are we?
02:51
It is against my programming to be out of Sanctuary.
02:54
Ooh, too late for that.
02:56
I'm not sure I compute what's going on here.
02:58
Have you found the other humans?
03:00
No, I haven't, but he has a Dynasty's patch.
03:04
The aspect of story development and structure, you know, it's changed in the past 20 years.
03:10
Oh, yeah.
03:11
And how it needs to be approached.
03:12
Can you talk about that, looking at the evolution of storytelling, not just because this is
03:17
Apple TV+, but just in general, from your perspective?
03:21
Well, that kind of falls into the category of episodic television versus serialized television
03:30
and this sort of blending of what is a feature and what is a series now.
03:35
And that's, you know, so in this case, having a quality, deep story, layered story and quality,
03:46
you know, images in the world is going to elevate it up to being almost, you know,
03:51
we really were aiming for feature quality.
03:53
But unlike a feature, we're not limited to just, you know, an hour and a half or two
03:57
hours, right?
03:57
So, we can actually run multiple storylines.
04:00
So, in this case, I had a bigger writer room than I've ever had before.
04:05
Bigger sort of just production values that I've ever had in regards to the number of
04:11
environments that we're creating for the show.
04:14
So, but I think from a storytelling involvement, it's mostly about we're not limited to episodic,
04:21
but we're also not limited to the time a feature would have.
04:23
So, it's been very exciting for me because I've never done that before.
04:26
Everything before this was mostly episodic.
04:28
He is not human.
04:29
Yet, we seem to understand him.
04:31
Oh, that?
04:33
Jar gum!
04:34
Alien gum.
04:34
Tastes like dirt, but magically makes you understand.
04:37
I used it to fix you, which is probably why.
04:39
Did you scan it?
04:41
Of course.
04:42
Did I scan it?
04:45
Obviously.
04:46
Alien substance was not scanned.
04:49
Eva, what about him?
04:50
Has he been scanned?
04:52
Alien life form has not been scanned.
04:53
Quiet!
04:54
Mother!
04:55
Please, let me handle him, okay?
04:57
Listen, why don't you scan the area for other sanctuaries?
05:02
Very well.
05:02
That is the protocol.
05:05
It's very lyrical, you know, and obviously with your dance background, all that kind of stuff,
05:09
you know, but also being a Cuban American and everything like that, you understand sort of
05:14
the rhythm, the idea, but also perspective and perception.
05:18
How you have to perceive the world and the perspective within it.
05:21
Can you talk about that within the guise of Eva and what she wants?
05:26
What her goals and desires are, but what she needs to accomplish in your mind?
05:32
Is it just survival or is it thriving?
05:36
Man, I mean, I hope for everybody that they could move past survival and get to live and
05:43
thrive, you know, and thriving.
05:45
I think for Eva, she's so mission oriented.
05:48
I think as young people, we are.
05:49
We're so excited about what it is we're setting out to do and to contribute and to be a part
05:54
of something bigger than ourselves.
05:57
And, you know, the challenge just becomes even bigger for her when she emerges onto
06:03
the surface of Rabona.
06:04
She realizes I'm actually not prepared at all for this world.
06:08
I don't know how to interact with it.
06:10
But what I loved was that she approached interacting with it with compassion and curiosity.
06:18
And she doesn't have a nature of destruction.
06:21
You know, it's I think that's true to us.
06:24
I think we don't that isn't our nature, you know, and the found family that she forges
06:30
on that way.
06:33
She doesn't in the great tradition of sci-fi, you know, she this as a genre, she does not
06:40
see it as something that's just tolerated.
06:43
She sees it as something to be celebrated, the differences that she is encountering and
06:47
all these alien species.
06:49
And I love the family that she forges sort of ragtag group.
06:53
It's so good.
06:54
I don't have information on restricted areas.
07:02
Wanda, is someone looking for me?
07:08
Intruder in sanctuary.
07:10
What is that thing?
07:11
I do not know.
07:11
This vent shaft leads to the surface.
07:14
Go!
07:16
Whoa.
07:19
Where am I?
07:20
But that's what and then taking it to obviously what we're seeing today, because everything
07:24
else influences everything else, you know, all your experiences, but it's like bringing
07:29
in the aspect of mother of what, you know, computer intelligence can offer us, but where
07:34
empathy sort of falls short, and you need those real life explorations into the unknown.
07:40
Could you talk about that?
07:41
Because that thematic and that mythology is so important to the story of Eva.
07:46
Yeah, you know, it's funny, you're hitting on a couple different things.
07:48
I mean, when I set out to write it in the book, mother, again, as a new parent, mother
07:54
was like the helicopter parent, right?
07:56
That was me going, will I be a helicopter parent?
07:58
Like, I'm worried.
07:59
Or will I be more like my dad was in the 70s, which is Rovender, which is like, hey, be
08:04
home when the streetlights are on.
08:05
Don't get hit by a car.
08:07
You know, I'll see you for dinner.
08:09
And, you know, the truth is, as parents, we're kind of wrestling with both of these things
08:13
and trying to find the best, be the best parents we can be.
08:16
But what I didn't anticipate was how quickly AI would become ever present and that here
08:24
we are, you know, and I think within another decade, you know, we're going to see some
08:29
insane things, maybe for the better, maybe not so much.
08:34
But the idea of a robot caretaker doesn't seem that far off now, does it?
08:43
I mean, it doesn't.
08:44
I feel like we could see that in our lifetime.
08:47
And so and at the time, I was trying to think of way beyond, you know, where we are now.
08:53
So it is a fascinating concept of, you know, man makes machines and then the machines help
09:04
make the man, you know, by raising us and informing us and educating us.
09:08
But they're only, I think, as we're seeing in AI, they're only limited by what input
09:15
we've given them.
09:16
And AI doesn't lie, but it doesn't know the truth from non-truths either.
09:25
She is a human.
09:28
Okay, someone had a little too much to drink.
09:32
No one have seen human for a long time.
09:34
If this is Earth, what happened?
09:37
And where is everybody?
09:39
You are looking for answers.
09:42
I want to know what happened to the humans.
09:44
Oh my.
09:47
Something so fragile should not be so bold.
09:50
Perhaps that is why you're the last of your kind.
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