Interview with the Vampire S2 Episode 5
Interview with the Vampire Season 2 Episode 5
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00:00 Stay tuned after the show for an exclusive look
00:02 inside the episode.
00:04 This is the part of my story back in San Francisco
00:28 where you said, and I paraphrase, "Give it to me."
00:33 You're not always a vampire, are you?
00:36 Hey, stop!
00:37 That's my voice, but I don't remember it.
00:39 The boy we met in San Francisco, he's still in there.
00:42 We can have him saying what happened next in no time.
00:44 Would you like to join us?
00:45 You go ahead, have your fun.
00:48 I see they've separated you from your laptop.
00:50 Tapes are an admitted performance.
00:53 Give it to me. I won't waste it.
00:55 This is the premise of our interview.
00:57 The odyssey of recollection.
00:59 I'll let you whine and have your say.
01:01 I used to be real good at running things.
01:04 Yes, maître.
01:05 What about me and you?
01:06 Picked another one over me!
01:08 You and fucking him!
01:10 Memories just keep bubbling up.
01:12 I want this...
01:15 to remember.
01:18 Things got a little heated.
01:19 With a boy.
01:20 Things got heated with a boy.
01:21 ♪ ♪
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01:31 ♪ ♪
01:36 ♪ ♪
01:41 ♪ ♪
01:46 ♪ ♪
01:49 We had it figured out, didn't we?
01:51 Mm.
01:52 What we needed from the other,
01:54 our proper roles, a less dictatorial approach
01:57 to the coven as embraced by my love.
02:00 A dreamy kind of balance.
02:02 Ah, July 1949.
02:04 The reading room.
02:05 Mm.
02:06 We broke into the same library
02:07 every night that month.
02:09 Hypnotized security, as one does.
02:12 Flipped the lights, laid our backs on long tables,
02:15 stared up at the ceiling.
02:18 Hot.
02:19 Iron pillars holding up terracotta domes.
02:21 A light trick that made the ceiling appear
02:23 higher than it was.
02:25 And why not pass a month that way?
02:27 An effortless, eternal life ahead of us.
02:32 Funny thing.
02:33 Trying to remember what occupied one's time
02:36 when one was ignorant of the plotting around him.
02:40 Grab that.
02:41 Santiago had broken into our part.
02:44 I'm sorry.
02:46 Grab what?
02:47 Hm?
02:48 Oh, it's just a note to my assistant.
02:49 It's nothing.
02:50 What did you want to grab, Daniel?
02:52 [clicks tongue]
02:54 [clicks tongue]
02:57 [clicks tongue]
02:58 Eternal life ahead of us.
03:01 Funny thing.
03:03 Trying to remember what occupied one's time
03:05 when one was ignorant of the plotting around him.
03:08 Grab that.
03:10 It's a thing with syntax.
03:12 I see it a lot.
03:13 The impersonal pronoun, one, one's time, one didn't,
03:17 becomes the third person, him, stops being I or me.
03:22 And that indicates what?
03:24 You're circling something.
03:28 You're getting close to something
03:29 you want distance from.
03:31 Language as a chicken exit on a roller coaster.
03:34 Or it's daytime, and a vampire of Louis' age
03:37 is fighting an archaeolectic pull of the sun.
03:40 Or that.
03:41 Ah.
03:46 Is this Malik?
03:48 It is, sir.
03:50 You're the guy.
03:51 Mm.
03:53 You're going to chase me down in your little Jimmy Choo
03:55 sneakers, huh?
03:57 Shall we take our business to the living room?
03:59 Who are they?
04:00 They are not your concern.
04:01 Oi!
04:02 Who are you?
04:04 Friends.
04:05 If you'll excuse us.
04:06 Your friend here is a hot-headed young man, huh?
04:11 Good thing to be.
04:13 Tell him to buy a Bugatti, crash it into the guardrails.
04:16 [snaps]
04:17 What was that?
04:25 Armand rarely eats.
04:27 So when he does, he prefers to hunt for it.
04:30 Does Malik know he's lunch?
04:32 Are you recording?
04:33 No.
04:35 Malik knows if he makes it on foot to Jumeirah Mosque
04:39 by evening, he'll be paid enough crypto to, well,
04:45 most anything he wants.
04:47 Has anyone ever cashed in?
04:49 Often it's someone carefully chosen for the harm
04:52 he does the world with his chosen profession.
04:55 And when he can't find an arms dealer dumb enough
04:57 to answer his ad?
04:58 Someone half in love with an easeful death.
05:04 He's ditching us.
05:10 He'll have Malik begging for it in an hour.
05:14 His methodology, it's never violent, I assure you.
05:18 Mm-hmm.
05:19 Follow up with the vampire Armand about diet and exercise.
05:27 And once again, Louis alone with himself.
05:30 So everything in its right place before the theater burns down.
05:37 In middle school, you stole your dad's Playboy magazine,
05:40 sold them at recess.
05:41 I'm sorry.
05:42 A little dirty, a little deceitful,
05:44 but it's enterprising.
05:46 Is that what makes you fascinating?
05:47 The car.
05:48 In high school, you told a girl you'd only do her--
05:50 Rest.
05:51 --if she had a paper bag--
05:52 Daniel.
05:53 --over her head.
05:54 She agreed, and you did it, either.
05:55 Daniel.
05:55 How long is your boyfriend's lunch again?
06:10 An hour, two at most.
06:12 [clicking]
06:15 Let's change it up.
06:30 I was going over my notes last night.
06:32 Something he said on his initial flight to the bookshelves
06:35 caught my ear.
06:37 This time, I won't save your life.
06:41 Armand saved you from me in 1973.
06:43 Yeah, you bit me.
06:44 I blacked out.
06:45 He ripped you off me, dumped me in a drug den.
06:48 Yes.
06:49 500 years, hundreds of thousands of kills.
06:53 How often has Armand spared a life?
06:55 Armand could see I was partial to you.
07:09 Armand preserves my happiness, even when I don't or can't.
07:14 He had a hunch you might prove fruitful in later times.
07:18 OK, sure.
07:22 Let's go with that.
07:25 Our first interview-- it's a fog.
07:29 I mean, it's the '70s, all a blur.
07:33 Woke up in a parking lot in Milwaukee once.
07:35 Don't know how I got there.
07:36 What's the question, Daniel?
07:38 We had drinks.
07:39 You paid.
07:40 We kept to your place in Divisadero.
07:42 You paid.
07:44 That's right.
07:45 Did we?
07:46 I like what you've done with the place.
08:03 Getting some bail bondsman, post-divorce vibes.
08:08 I own a few of these places.
08:11 Oh, yeah?
08:12 How many?
08:14 Many.
08:16 Are you a real estate mogul?
08:19 Own a lot of things.
08:32 [door slams]
08:33 Does that scare you, boy?
08:43 So you climb in it, close the lid, and bang?
08:53 Sometimes.
08:54 OK.
09:02 I mean, I'm in a countercultures.
09:05 So am I the first guy that you brought back here?
09:11 The fifth?
09:12 Back Hammond?
09:16 Well, that's wholesome.
09:18 Old-timey fun from the Sasanian Empire.
09:20 Oh.
09:24 Cheeseburgers or chicken chow mein?
09:26 Take your pick.
09:29 Oh, well.
09:30 All of your slickness at the bar, all that's gone.
09:39 What do I seem like now, boy?
09:41 A veteran of many wars?
09:43 It's yours.
09:43 Cocaine's a fun boy's drug.
09:48 I'm not fun.
09:49 All right, suit yourself.
09:50 I prefer you like this.
09:59 All dark and real.
10:01 Maybe I could cheer you up.
10:03 What are you doing?
10:11 Fulfilling my side of the social contract.
10:14 Do you normally interview your subjects with your shirt off?
10:19 Huh?
10:19 So we didn't.
10:24 No.
10:27 [laughs]
10:31 I really-- I really thought we did.
10:34 Do you want to now?
10:36 He sometimes lingers when boats come into harbor.
10:38 San Francisco.
10:43 Psychedelics, disco biscuits, angel powders, and young men.
10:49 Just about every night I lived there,
10:51 you offered something off the menu.
10:55 Louis de Pointe de Lac from New Orleans.
10:57 You specialize in low end real estate.
11:01 I like predicting what overlooked product
11:03 will flourish in time.
11:05 Low end property, little known art.
11:08 Worth is often miscalculated because of--
11:10 Hue?
11:11 Minor factors.
11:18 You can squeeze profit out of that margin.
11:22 Did you gravitate to San Fran as a hub for homophiles?
11:25 Paris in the 1940s with its permissive,
11:34 laissez aller sexual atmosphere was the more formative
11:37 liberation for me.
11:40 Take this seriously.
11:41 I am.
11:42 Shit.
11:47 [laughs]
11:50 I forgot to put a tape in.
11:51 I'm a vampire.
11:58 OK.
12:00 I mean, I'm really interested to know why you believe that.
12:04 Fuck.
12:12 Are those fangs?
12:15 Hi.
12:16 Fuck, man.
12:18 Are you the Zodiac Killer?
12:19 [sighs]
12:20 [sighs]
12:21 [sighs]
12:22 [pills rattling]
12:25 [pills rattling]
12:28 [pills rattling]
12:52 Don't be afraid.
12:54 Just start the tape.
12:55 OK.
13:03 It's on now.
13:06 Um, first question.
13:11 You weren't always a vampire, were you?
13:14 No.
13:16 I was a 33-year-old man when I became a vampire.
13:20 And how did it come about?
13:23 There's a simple answer to that.
13:25 I don't believe I want to give simple answers.
13:29 I want to tell the real story.
13:31 You smoked shaky cigarette after shaky cigarette.
13:35 You shook more then than you do now.
13:37 What I remember most, other than that you were an alien
13:40 five feet from me, was how eager you were to spill.
13:44 No coaxing on my part.
13:46 No journalism, per se.
13:47 You were terrified of me, Daniel.
13:49 You were lonely, Louie.
13:51 It was gratifying to tell you what
13:53 I was after mingling with humans for so long.
13:55 You weren't thrill-seeking.
13:57 You were floundering tape after tape of emotional upchucks.
14:01 Where's this leading, Daniel?
14:03 I have some outstanding questions about 1973,
14:09 like why you talked to me in the first place.
14:13 You had curiosity, swagger.
14:15 Nah.
14:16 I would chat for a few hours, and then
14:17 who would come looking if another drug-addled homophile
14:20 disappeared?
14:22 The Berkeley Barb?
14:25 Malik will be dead in two hours.
14:27 You've made me an accessory to murder,
14:29 and you've had 13 sessions.
14:31 I want 20 minutes for me.
14:35 I want to know, for me, what happened between us.
14:40 OK?
14:43 OK.
14:46 OK.
14:48 Then let me ask you this, Daniel Malloy.
14:52 What's the next thing you remember?
14:53 You eviscerating Lestat.
15:00 He had a dark pull, a numbing affect on the senses.
15:04 He was a handsome sailor.
15:05 Yeah, I mean, I know the type.
15:07 And you stripped away his superficial charms
15:11 beneath his flimsy gentleman's veneer.
15:15 Mm.
15:15 Lestat was trivial, vapid, vulgar--
15:21 Vulgar.
15:22 --maniacal, blind, and sterile, and contemptible.
15:27 Big time asshole.
15:28 He appeared frail and stupid to me,
15:32 a man made of dried twigs with a thin, carping voice.
15:38 And for all that Lestat boasted about his love of music,
15:42 he played without an iota of feeling.
15:48 Nothing.
15:49 No one home.
15:50 Like an automaton, plunking away at the notes
15:54 with all the emotional acuity of a monster.
15:58 [laughter]
15:59 Yeah, but you were suggestible.
16:00 I mean, he lured you in, you know?
16:03 He's a faker.
16:04 But you figured that out.
16:06 Just by then, you paid a biblical price
16:08 for your first love.
16:12 [laughter]
16:15 I'm sorry.
16:17 I didn't mean to.
16:18 No.
16:19 That was a stooped boy.
16:22 You see?
16:24 You were nimble-minded even back then.
16:26 I was a moron.
16:27 Will you, uh, do the fang thing again?
16:31 [laughter]
16:36 I love that man.
16:38 Just for reference, that was Louis de Pointe Delac
16:40 just now making his fangs come out.
16:44 Ah, shit.
16:46 The tape ran out.
16:47 It's a small 30-minute thing.
16:48 If I had been an actual journalist and, you know,
16:51 not fried on Coke and lewds, I would
16:53 have realized what a dangerously unstable psyche I was with.
16:57 Because the next thing that happened was you detonated.
17:01 [music playing]
17:03 I sat on that bench in Jackson Square.
17:09 Watched Claudia disappear into the night.
17:12 I'm kind of with her.
17:13 Get off that bench, brother.
17:15 I pictured her on the platform, boarding a train,
17:20 carrying her off into her future,
17:23 a future I would be absent from.
17:25 Or you'd just pick yourself up.
17:27 Stay behind with LeStock.
17:31 And I knew within seconds it was the only choice,
17:36 the wrong choice.
17:38 And then what?
17:40 Then what?
17:44 I had nothing.
17:46 Nothing but the bench I was sitting on.
17:49 So I stayed on it for hours.
17:54 All I had to do was watch the sun come up,
17:58 let it bleach my bones, purify the putrid soul.
18:03 Are you kidding me?
18:05 What, you were just going to end it?
18:07 I mean, what about life, like joy rides, and night swimming,
18:12 and marriage, and cancer, and all of that
18:14 till the death rattle?
18:16 I mean, we got to carry all this shit,
18:18 and you had to take it out.
18:19 And you were just going to throw it away?
18:22 You've overstepped now, Wood.
18:23 Listen, no, obviously you didn't do it.
18:26 But you were given the gift.
18:28 And I've been hearing you bitch the night away about it.
18:30 And since you used the past tense about her,
18:33 I figured she--
18:34 She what?
18:36 Well, I could see where this is going, and--
18:38 And what?
18:39 And give it to me.
18:42 I won't waste it.
18:43 I think you could use me.
18:45 I think we have an energy, you and me.
18:47 I could be your Lestat, your Claudia, but better.
18:51 I mean, I got a little bit of both of them in me,
18:53 plus a few things they don't.
18:55 This, after all I've told you, is what you asked for, boy!
19:01 Yeah, well, you don't know what human life is like.
19:03 I mean, you've forgotten, man.
19:05 I mean, you don't understand the meaning of your own story.
19:07 [sniffing]
19:08 [growling]
19:09 [crash]
19:10 [grunt]
19:11 Hey, stop!
19:12 [screaming]
19:12 [growling]
19:13 I get so weary, I don't even look up to him!
19:16 Suicide Hotline 101.
19:18 Don't say to the person on the other end of the line,
19:20 hey, why don't you cheer the fuck up?
19:22 I overreacted.
19:23 Not sure that killing me was a totally warranted response
19:26 to my idiocy?
19:27 I took a scoop out of your throat.
19:28 I deserve to have my ass kicked.
19:30 For the sheer number of times I said, and then what?
19:33 All the drugs in your blood, it all went back into me.
19:35 Cornstone.
19:36 Prize winning journalism.
19:38 And then what?
19:38 I, um-- Daniel.
19:48 Daniel.
19:55 Yeah.
20:02 A hesitation.
20:03 I have a surprise for you.
20:10 Kind of a curveball, which will seem like less of a surprise
20:13 and more like a ambush.
20:16 Is that our original interview?
20:25 Turns out I had a copy saved in the cloud.
20:27 You're a liar, Daniel.
20:28 So are you, Louie.
20:30 Whether you know it or not, you remember the last nine
20:35 minutes at the end?
20:37 Betty Hutton drowning out the indecipherable moaning
20:41 and yelling?
20:44 Yes.
20:45 Well, my researcher assistant, she's a bit of an audiophile.
20:52 And well, she cleaned it up a bit.
20:55 Press pause on the betrayal of it all and listen.
21:01 [screaming]
21:04 Louie?
21:15 That wet thud, that's Armand saving me.
21:24 [chatter]
21:26 What?
21:36 What?
21:37 Morning.
21:38 I lost time.
21:41 Things got a little heated.
21:42 With a boy.
21:42 Things got heated with a boy.
21:45 I was at home picking lint off the sofa.
21:46 I said to join us.
21:48 The night's gone.
21:48 The room's soiled.
21:50 And once again, I'm here with mop and mindlessness
21:52 to clean it up.
21:53 So the room got dirty.
21:54 So what?
21:55 I'll clean it up.
21:56 No, I clean it up.
21:57 You make the mess and I clean it up.
21:59 Mark it on the calendar.
22:00 I'll add it with Ussa Major.
22:02 Louie's tri-annual fuck off and find me
22:04 with apologies to follow.
22:05 I'm sorry.
22:06 The sweet comfort in the arms of lowlifes and unfortunates
22:09 and broken children.
22:10 Fine.
22:11 Fine, a fine that doesn't sound like fine.
22:13 But revealing our nature to a reporter.
22:15 You met in a bar 10 hours ago.
22:17 What if it was published?
22:18 I was having some fun.
22:19 We don't have enough to fear from Paris.
22:20 I was in the middle of ending things when you--
22:22 You already passed out on the floor next to him, Louie.
22:26 Out on your feet from the drugs you stuffed away--
22:28 This is boring.
22:29 You're boring.
22:31 You are so boring.
22:33 And here come the drugs.
22:34 Colorless.
22:35 Flavorless.
22:36 Up the thigh and down the throat.
22:37 Into the heart and off your fingers, feet.
22:39 Dull nights.
22:40 And wallowing brain.
22:41 Dull weeks.
22:42 Dull months.
22:43 Dull as fuck.
22:44 Suffocation by the world's softest, beigest pillow.
22:51 The 10 hours I spent with that boy
22:55 were more exciting, more fascinating
22:59 than decades with you.
23:02 Oh, there it is.
23:09 The half blank, half apocalyptic look.
23:13 But what does it mean tonight, huh?
23:15 Does he want to lick my boots or chop my hands off?
23:20 Is it the gremlin or the good nurse tonight, huh?
23:25 OK.
23:27 OK, perhaps.
23:28 But am I as boring as the blather
23:32 committed onto the ferric tapes of your fascinating boy?
23:37 Oh, it's so hard to be me.
23:39 Picking lint off the sofa?
23:40 It's so hard to be humans.
23:42 I can feel her feet.
23:43 [interposing voices]
23:45 --the more they're going to get there,
23:47 the more hard it'll be to hit it away.
23:48 Everyone I know wrongs me.
23:50 OK.
23:51 OK.
23:52 Let's wake the boy up, and let's try you.
23:55 I'm the vampire Armando.
23:57 My daddy vampire groomed me into a little bitch.
24:00 My brother, he tossed his step off the roof.
24:02 But the vampires have murdered my daddy.
24:03 My sister, she buried me alive.
24:04 Made me pretend I didn't have a dick for 240 years.
24:06 My daughter was my sister, was my throw pillow.
24:08 When he would look at me kindly, le stat, le stat, le stat,
24:12 le stat, le stat, le stat, le stat, le stat, le stat,
24:14 le stat, le stat, le stat, le stat, le stat, le stat.
24:16 I'd talk shit about him the whole time.
24:17 The name!
24:20 The name!
24:21 Unuttered in our home for 23 years,
24:24 said over and over again until it was pounding
24:27 in my brain like a hammer.
24:29 Our problems aren't about him.
24:32 And you threw her name around just for cover,
24:34 but it always circled back to him.
24:37 I loved her.
24:37 But she didn't love you.
24:40 Not like he did.
24:41 Not like I have.
24:43 I know.
24:45 I know!
24:47 Yes!
24:48 I know!
24:50 Thank you for saving me.
24:52 I was creeping back in the parish.
24:56 And the, uh, what, what, what, what, what,
24:59 what is all of it coming back?
25:02 It's, uh, parish, parish.
25:06 Can you hear that?
25:08 Can you hear that?
25:10 Can you hear her?
25:12 She's calling me.
25:13 [music playing]
25:16 [door opening]
25:19 [door closing]
25:21 I think that's you running out of the room.
25:24 Hear that?
25:26 Second door slam, farther off.
25:29 What's that second door slam?
25:31 I don't, I don't remember.
25:33 I don't remember any of this.
25:34 First door opens.
25:36 Slam.
25:38 Footsteps.
25:40 Second door slams.
25:43 Metal door.
25:45 Armand--
25:46 Louis!
25:47 --calls your name.
25:50 He runs after you.
25:52 Metal door opens.
25:54 He screams.
25:56 A few more seconds.
25:59 Tape runs out.
26:03 Where does Armand follow you, Louis?
26:06 It's morning.
26:09 You went out of the room.
26:10 Door opens.
26:16 Slams.
26:18 Steps.
26:19 Metal door.
26:24 Louis!
26:37 [screaming]
26:39 [groaning]
26:42 [thud]
26:43 [music playing]
26:47 [screaming]
26:54 No, no, no, no.
27:01 I walked into the sun.
27:07 You remember that?
27:07 I'm remembering it now.
27:17 Let me ask you a really loaded question, Louis.
27:25 And then what?
27:26 My skin burnt to the color of pitch.
27:34 A char coming off me.
27:37 The pain?
27:39 Like a siren.
27:41 Like a noise in my body.
27:46 I walked out into the sun.
27:50 I think so.
27:51 Pieces of my life gone.
27:56 I knew who I was without those pieces.
27:59 Wait.
28:00 Sidestep the big picture.
28:02 Get the story straight first.
28:04 [groaning]
28:10 The pain.
28:21 Must be exquisite.
28:22 What happened?
28:28 You drained a drug fiend.
28:30 You said the worst things you've ever said to me.
28:32 No.
28:33 And then you ran outside.
28:34 No.
28:35 And now you're a convalescent.
28:37 I'm so-- I'm so--
28:41 What is it?
28:42 I'm sorry.
28:44 Meaningless word.
28:47 Meaningless.
28:50 The floor slants slightly north.
28:53 The boy's blood flowed that way.
28:55 We should fix that before we self.
29:00 He's alive?
29:00 The boy.
29:05 The fascinating boy.
29:08 He's fine.
29:09 Don't.
29:14 He's just fine.
29:16 Don't.
29:17 Oh, he's fine.
29:18 You're fine.
29:19 This is fine.
29:20 We're all fine.
29:24 You two kept me in that apartment for how long?
29:26 You were there, Daniel.
29:28 I don't remember.
29:28 I-- that's why I'm asking.
29:30 I can remember a few things, like--
29:36 He's just fine.
29:38 There's someone else there.
29:39 He's fine.
29:40 Go away.
29:41 Go on.
29:42 Fine.
29:43 A cellophane corpse on the floor.
29:48 Meaningless word.
29:50 Meaningless.
29:53 A neighbor saw you while he was taking out the trash.
29:55 I had to chase him down.
29:56 [music playing]
30:00 The floor slants slightly north.
30:05 The boy's blood flowed that way.
30:06 [music playing]
30:09 There's a TV in the corner near the corpse.
30:15 Some kind of soccer shoe commercial.
30:18 There's sheets of plastic tarp, some duct tape leech.
30:24 Surely I'm next.
30:26 Arman.
30:27 I-- I can see him walking out of the bedroom.
30:34 I can hear you, but I can't see you.
30:37 The door frame is blocking you.
30:39 OK, yeah.
30:41 Arman puts the table back and finds the recorder under the TV,
30:50 brings it to the table.
30:54 He ejects the tape, yeah, flips it over, and presses play.
31:04 The better--
31:05 I hear my voice on the recorder.
31:07 --the more you liked it.
31:09 A fresh young girl, that was his favorite food.
31:12 But the triumphal kill for a city just like Wistok--
31:15 Arman!
31:15 --was always a young man.
31:18 A young man like yourself would have appealed in particular.
31:22 You see, they represented the greatest loss to Lestat
31:26 because they stood on the threshold
31:28 of maximum possibility.
31:29 Rest.
31:31 Of course, Lestat didn't understand this himself.
31:33 Lestat understood nothing.
31:36 Curious.
31:38 Arman stands over you.
31:40 He's commandeered your body.
31:42 Rise.
31:49 Arman, from Polynesian Marys, I was with Louis.
31:54 I can't--
31:55 Move your body.
31:56 [groaning]
31:57 Yeah.
31:58 Yeah.
31:59 [groaning]
31:59 [music playing]
32:02 [groaning]
32:04 I don't want--
32:05 To die on that item.
32:10 I think I know something you don't.
32:12 [groaning]
32:12 [radio playing]
32:15 [groaning]
32:18 I'm told you've lived a fascinating life.
32:21 I never said that.
32:22 No, Louis did.
32:23 Leave him alone, Arman.
32:26 [thud]
32:27 [groaning]
32:30 Arman!
32:31 You held Louis' attention.
32:35 He confessed his innermost secrets to you.
32:38 I wanted drugs.
32:40 We didn't even have sex, right?
32:41 128 boys he's brought here.
32:44 He said five.
32:45 And you're the first he didn't consummate and drain.
32:47 This is so bad.
32:48 That makes you special.
32:49 Please, man.
32:51 Look, I'm just a shit little kid from a desk.
32:53 That warrants investigation.
32:54 I could be on my knees in a second.
32:57 Bartering with desire, is that what makes you fascinating?
33:01 He didn't even want me in the end.
33:03 I mean, look at my neck.
33:05 I'm fucking bleeding down to my ankles.
33:07 Vera?
33:13 She's a single mother.
33:14 It's-- it's in a titty bar on Market Street.
33:17 Kevin?
33:18 He's a Vietnam vet who lives in the Castro
33:20 with his Vietnamese refugee boyfriend with no legs.
33:23 You think in all these fools, you'd arrived
33:26 at some ineffable truth?
33:27 No.
33:28 It's all bullshit.
33:29 An instinct to self-efface.
33:31 Is that what makes you fascinating?
33:33 OK.
33:34 Yes.
33:37 I'm good at getting angles, getting people to open up.
33:42 I can't feel my body.
33:44 It's freaking me out.
33:45 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
33:47 Armand!
33:54 You're going to teach me how to be fascinating.
33:56 Leave him be, Armand!
33:58 In middle school, you stole your dad's Playboy magazine,
34:04 sold them at recess.
34:06 A little dirty, a little deceitful.
34:08 But it's enterprising.
34:09 Is that what makes you fascinating?
34:11 In high school, you told a girl you'd only do her
34:14 if she had a paper bag over her head.
34:17 She agreed, and you did it even as she cried.
34:20 A splinter of coldness in you.
34:22 Is that what makes you fascinating?
34:25 My legs are starting to cramp.
34:26 Even his transgressions are ordinary, Louis.
34:29 The pinhole's closing back up.
34:30 OK, it's you who's fascinating.
34:33 You can read minds, right?
34:35 Louis thinks I'm boring.
34:37 I have Charlie Horse's left leg.
34:38 Do you find me boring?
34:39 No.
34:40 [sobbing]
34:43 [music playing]
34:47 Do you want to hear my story?
34:49 Yes.
34:51 Yes.
34:52 Yes.
34:53 My first memory, I'm being run down by slavers in Delhi.
35:05 My second, an eager black hole.
35:21 [sobbing]
35:24 I'll keep digging.
35:27 But I'm not hopeful there's much to be found.
35:35 There's much more to you, Daniel, other than a hole.
35:38 [sobbing]
35:41 [scream]
35:46 I was in Zeliznagorsk to interview
35:48 an operative for the KGB.
35:51 Halfway through, I tried to go to the bathroom.
35:53 He'd locked me in.
35:56 I was the one being interviewed.
35:58 Your point?
36:00 I don't know.
36:02 No point, other than fuck your boyfriend.
36:05 Rage is an imprecise emotion.
36:09 I'd hurt him, but I was fragile, an invalid.
36:14 Spiro Agnew.
36:17 Daniel?
36:18 Daniel?
36:19 Washington insiders are claiming this Saturday evening
36:22 that Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
36:24 may be close to resigning in light
36:26 of ongoing investigations.
36:28 Federal prosecutors will soon present evidence
36:31 to a Baltimore grand jury over the vice president's allegedly
36:34 receiving illegal--
36:35 Saturday.
36:37 It was Saturday, but we met on Tuesday.
36:40 So I was the house pet for, what, one, two, three,
36:46 four days?
36:49 Your boyfriend--
36:51 I'm with him now.
36:52 --was in a trance of some sort.
36:54 I won't tell you why.
36:55 I don't know.
36:56 I can't.
36:57 Lunch is almost over.
36:58 Try.
36:59 I won't say where.
36:59 You fucking try.
37:00 You were there.
37:01 Go back to the chair.
37:02 The TV.
37:03 --Vice President Spiro T. Agnew--
37:05 His feet in the rocks shit is bullshit.
37:08 You're in the chair.
37:09 The TV is on.
37:10 Someone service--
37:11 Come on.
37:12 Can you come?
37:13 I can't get up.
37:14 It hurts.
37:15 Put me in the coffin.
37:18 Coffin?
37:20 Yeah, it's you.
37:22 You keep saying coffin.
37:23 My nose is bleeding?
37:28 Someone service--
37:29 Come on.
37:29 Can you come?
37:31 Where are you?
37:33 The pain in the back is like I'm still burning.
37:37 Come on.
37:37 Put me in the coffin.
37:40 Please.
37:41 Yes.
37:42 Thank you.
37:44 Rest.
37:45 [thud]
37:46 [grunt]
37:47 [thud]
37:48 --and gas station owners.
37:49 [music playing]
37:53 [grunt]
37:54 [grunt]
38:00 [sniff]
38:01 [grunt]
38:02 [sniff]
38:02 [grunt]
38:03 [sniff]
38:04 [grunt]
38:05 [music playing]
38:08 I listened to the tapes, all of them twice.
38:15 The start, the start.
38:17 Claudia, the start, the start.
38:21 And all I talked about was trash.
38:23 Yes, you said that.
38:25 But why?
38:25 It's not exactly how you've talked about him to me.
38:31 Did I catch you in a fantasy where the boy somehow
38:34 fumbles his way to publication?
38:37 Well, the start strolls past a bookstore,
38:41 your book displayed in the shop window
38:44 while he buys himself a copy, reads
38:47 your nasty embellishments, and comes chasing after you again.
38:50 [music playing]
38:53 [crying]
38:57 If you want the insanity back, if you
39:00 wanted escape from this prison of empathy,
39:04 I've locked you away in.
39:07 All you had to do was ask, Louis.
39:09 [music playing]
39:16 A final act of service I'd like to perform before I--
39:21 I leave you to yourself.
39:22 I know where he is.
39:26 I found his voice among the many.
39:33 No.
39:34 I told him I was with you.
39:35 [music playing]
39:44 The stud.
39:47 No.
39:47 I told him you were thinking of him again.
39:54 The stud.
39:55 No.
39:55 Let's go where it is.
39:58 Yes.
39:59 I'm here.
40:02 He's waiting for you.
40:04 I'm with him now.
40:06 He cannot hear you.
40:08 He has injured himself.
40:10 Louis, no.
40:13 This is your chance, Louis.
40:14 I am your maker's voice.
40:16 Louis.
40:18 Louis.
40:20 Mon cher.
40:22 Mon cher.
40:22 You wanted to say something to me.
40:28 You wanted to say something to me.
40:31 Why are you ill?
40:33 What's happened to you?
40:35 Why are you ill?
40:36 What's happened to you?
40:40 I love you, Louis.
40:41 I love you, Louis.
40:42 Tell him I love him, Armand.
40:48 I love you, Louis.
40:52 Tell him, Armand.
40:52 Tell him.
40:58 Louis?
41:00 Louis?
41:02 Louis?
41:03 [music playing]
41:06 [crying]
41:08 You was my make.
41:13 It's not them all.
41:18 You left me for death.
41:19 Will I be on suicide watch for the next 1,000 years?
41:30 Have I atoned for my part of Paris?
41:37 Have I crawled an inch forward?
41:39 Or am I a reminder of the worst of it?
41:41 I'll finish cleaning up.
41:59 Rest.
42:02 Rest.
42:03 Rest.
42:04 He said that to me, too.
42:10 Rest?
42:11 Shh.
42:14 Rest now.
42:15 A bunch of words.
42:16 But it started with rest.
42:21 Rest, and then?
42:28 Shh.
42:29 Rest.
42:29 I've been calling to you for some time.
42:37 From every bad fix, from the unnamed malaise
42:40 you feel Sunday afternoons.
42:42 And now here I am, and you can rest.
42:46 I don't want to rest.
42:52 I'm the quiet you've been longing for.
42:57 After all the garishness of life, the jostling,
43:01 the clawing--
43:02 I like my life.
43:03 --the dull thrum of desperation in you,
43:07 will I get the fixes I need?
43:09 Will I be somebody?
43:12 Will I get the fixes I need to be somebody?
43:16 But Daniel, you already know who you'll be.
43:22 An ugly duplex back in Modesto.
43:25 A job in an office with drab carpets and flickering lights.
43:29 A woman in the mold of your mother, vacuuming on Valium.
43:35 A genteel drinking problem like your father, your wife
43:39 counting down your thrusts.
43:42 Your children shying away from you.
43:47 All the confidence and hope of your youth
43:50 replaced by a seething, boiling regret until one day you're
43:59 at a traffic light.
44:02 The light turns green.
44:04 Horns honking.
44:07 You don't move.
44:09 Horns honking.
44:11 You don't move.
44:13 Everything happening in the city.
44:18 A bright young reporter with a point of view.
44:21 Shh, shh, shh.
44:22 A comfortable chair in a room that slants to the north.
44:27 An easeful breath.
44:29 Rest.
44:30 It's OK.
44:34 It's OK.
44:40 It's OK.
44:43 And I feel like a bath.
44:44 Rest.
44:46 Like honey on your tongue.
44:49 It is the comfort we all long for.
44:53 The end.
44:55 Rest.
44:57 Rest.
44:58 Come.
45:03 Come.
45:05 I'm holding you.
45:06 You rest now.
45:07 [music playing]
45:11 Stop.
45:21 I'm off.
45:21 I'm cleaning up the mess.
45:31 Doesn't need cleaning.
45:33 After what you've put me through here, I deserve this.
45:36 I know.
45:38 But I need this one to live.
45:42 It's a testament to our companionship.
45:45 Of its endurance.
45:46 This boy to live out the night.
45:54 Are you asking, Metre?
46:02 No, Arun.
46:05 I'm not asking.
46:06 [music playing]
46:10 [sighs]
46:10 [music playing]
46:14 [grunting]
46:18 [grunting]
46:20 [music playing]
46:24 [crying]
46:27 [music playing]
46:31 [music playing]
46:34 [music playing]
46:38 [music playing]
46:41 Daniel?
46:49 [music playing]
46:53 Page 484.
47:06 Listen as though I'm the voice of God or an angel talking
47:11 to you, telling you this room doesn't matter,
47:14 this night doesn't matter.
47:16 You're not inconsequential or a junkie.
47:21 You're a bright young reporter with a point of view.
47:25 There are stories that need to be told.
47:28 If things ever get bad again, these
47:30 are the words you'll hear in your mind,
47:32 like a tape playing over and over,
47:35 like a song stuck in your brain.
47:38 These words will hold you up and carry you.
47:41 They are your lifeline.
47:45 That's a free base I befriended for a few days
47:57 at the drug den.
47:58 He told me to get my shit together,
48:04 and then he Richard Pryor'd right in front of me.
48:07 Everyone scrambled, but I stuck around, watched him burn.
48:11 What always confused me was that--
48:13 you know, he-- he said those words to me,
48:23 and he was already all burnt up.
48:26 Figured I'd conflated the two events, but I didn't.
48:31 Because it was you.
48:32 I destroyed two marriages.
48:46 I fucked up two daughters.
48:51 But I stayed a journalist.
48:54 I-- I was never so lost I couldn't hold down a job.
49:01 [chuckles]
49:02 We, I think, gave you more drugs,
49:12 distorted it all in your mind.
49:14 You woke up in a drug den.
49:15 Fed you a truncated version.
49:17 He bit you.
49:18 He bit me.
49:19 You blacked out.
49:20 I blacked out.
49:22 You blacked out.
49:24 I blacked out.
49:26 You woke up in a drug den.
49:27 I woke up in a drug den.
49:29 He bit you.
49:30 He bit me.
49:31 You blacked out.
49:32 I blacked out.
49:34 You woke up in a drug den.
49:35 Armand fogged my brain, redacted himself,
49:39 which accounts for why I didn't remember.
49:41 Yes.
49:43 And what accounts for why you didn't?
49:46 I was disfigured.
49:48 I was in pain.
49:50 But you remember right up until when you bit me.
49:53 And then both our memories cut out.
49:57 Same precise edit on two brains.
50:00 How was your lunch?
50:15 Entertaining.
50:16 He made it all the way to Burj Khalifa.
50:19 How was Paris?
50:20 We paused Paris, reminisced about San Francisco.
50:25 And?
50:26 It started with Daniel.
50:28 He asked why you saved him in 1973.
50:31 I could see you were partial to him.
50:38 I preserve your happiness even when you don't or can't.
50:42 I had a hunch--
50:43 You had a hunch.
50:44 [music playing]
50:47 --a hunch Daniel might prove fruitful in later times.
50:51 [music playing]
50:55 [music playing]
50:58 [music playing]
51:01 [music playing]
51:05 [music playing]
51:06 [music playing]
51:08 You're stronger.
51:09 I can feel it.
51:12 But you got to give up something to get something.
51:17 You fear Armand.
51:19 You should fear the other one.
51:20 Can you imagine me without the burden of her?
51:23 Today, we're turning our spotlight on ourselves.
51:26 [music playing]
51:29 Are you ready?
51:30 [music playing]
51:33 [music playing]
51:37 [music playing]
51:40 Episode five, "Don't Be Afraid, Just Start to Tape,"
51:44 explains the past.
51:46 It explains relationships.
51:47 And it explains the betrayal.
51:49 In high school, you told a girl you'd only do her
51:52 if she had a paper bag--
51:53 Daniel.
51:54 --over her head.
51:55 She agreed, and you did it, Ian.
51:56 Daniel.
51:57 [music playing]
51:59 What's in the bag?
52:01 In season one, we saw the-- - Hello.
52:04 --original meeting in the bar--
52:05 Hi.
52:06 --of young Malloy and Louie in San Francisco.
52:08 Would you like to join us?
52:09 With Armand there lurking in the background.
52:12 No.
52:14 You go ahead.
52:14 Have your fun.
52:15 And now, we're back with that same trio.
52:19 Louie and Malloy have returned to the apartment
52:21 in San Francisco.
52:23 And--
52:24 I like what you've done with the place.
52:26 We see this interview play out.
52:28 Are you a real estate mogul?
52:31 You own a lot of things.
52:32 [music playing]
52:34 Recreating 1973 was a lot of fun.
52:38 And those of us who know something about that era
52:40 just sort of laugh at everything from the clothes to the hair.
52:44 And every detail, every prop, every set dressing
52:47 has to be right.
52:50 Backhammon?
52:51 Old-timey fun from the Sasanian Empire.
52:56 This went through many permutations.
52:58 But basically, it's a beautiful '70s backhammon board
53:07 rebuilt to handle all the drugs, all the fun and games
53:13 that Louie is offering to Malloy in the '70s.
53:17 It was actually the first thing we shot this season.
53:19 It was like shooting a little play, really,
53:21 because you're in the one set for the whole time.
53:23 That first blush, it is a one-off episode.
53:27 And yet, it explains everything that's happened up till then,
53:30 and more importantly, everything that's going to happen.
53:33 Does that scare you, boy?
53:34 It was really fun to revisit that dynamic
53:37 with the younger Daniel.
53:38 So am I the first guy that you brought back here?
53:42 It was amazing to work with Luke,
53:43 having seen up close Eric's Daniel.
53:47 Our first interview is a fog.
53:51 I mean, it's the '70s, all a blur.
53:55 Unbeknownst to me, when we met in New Orleans
53:58 before we even started shooting anything,
54:00 I didn't realize that he was watching me
54:03 and planning a strategy on how to play the younger me.
54:07 Some of the stuff that Luke was doing,
54:09 I was like, that's Eric.
54:10 That's Eric.
54:11 I'm a vampire.
54:16 OK.
54:17 I mean, I'm really interested to know
54:20 why you believe that.
54:21 Even in the first meet in '73, Louis
54:29 has a real fondness for Daniel.
54:30 Are those fangs?
54:32 He likes them.
54:32 He's cold.
54:33 That's why Daniel lived, as long as he did.
54:38 First question, you weren't always a vampire, were you?
54:43 We have these two guys in Dubai who,
54:47 with the help of the Talamaska, they
54:49 start trying to piece together what happened.
54:52 Where-- oh, fuck.
54:55 You don't know what human life is like.
54:57 I mean, you've forgotten, man.
54:58 I mean, you don't understand the meaning of your own story.
55:03 It's intense.
55:04 It's intense for me.
55:05 Having watched it, it then informs everything
55:09 that I am doing in later scenes.
55:12 I have a surprise for you.
55:13 I have a curveball, which will seem like less of a surprise
55:17 and more like a ambush.
55:19 Louis?
55:23 That's Armand saving me.
55:28 The relationship between Armand and Louis was very up and down.
55:33 Louis, as much as he wants to say that this relationship
55:37 cured him of his malaise--
55:39 The 10 hours I spent with that boy
55:43 were more exciting, more fascinating
55:47 than decades with you.
55:50 --clearly has all kinds of problems.
55:52 Many of the same issues he had when he was with Lestat
55:56 have resurfaced.
55:57 Lestat, Lestat, Lestat, Lestat, Lestat, Lestat, Lestat.
55:59 Armand is always conniving.
56:01 He's always working.
56:03 And I think that's also the tragedy of him
56:05 is that he can't ever relax with the truth.
56:11 I'm remembering it now.
56:13 It's kind of the biggest betrayal, isn't it?
56:15 When you choose to spend your life with somebody,
56:18 you accept each other.
56:19 I can't think of a bigger betrayal
56:21 than lying to that person in such a significant way,
56:24 to the extent where you would rewrite their history.
56:28 Rest.
56:28 Rest.
56:31 He said that to me, too.
56:32 It makes me angry now.
56:34 Armand is so wrong for that.
56:37 Don't.
56:38 He's just fine.
56:40 Don't.
56:41 Oh, he's fine.
56:42 You're fine.
56:43 This is fine.
56:45 We're all fine.
56:47 Stop, Armand.
56:53 We both discover the depths of duplicity
56:58 that Armand has gone to and what he's done to each of us.
57:03 Up to this point, the Malloy-Louis dynamic
57:09 is adversarial.
57:10 It is really this kind of amazing moment of connection
57:16 between the two of them.
57:18 Like a song stuck in your brain, these words
57:22 will hold you up and carry you.
57:24 Jacob has said it.
57:26 Louis doesn't have any friends.
57:27 They are your lifeline.
57:29 And Daniel doesn't have any friends.
57:32 So if they have any friends at all, maybe it's each other.
57:38 There's an odd couple for you.
57:39 [music playing]
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57:49 [music playing]
57:52 [music playing]
57:56 [music playing]
57:59 [music playing]
58:02 [music playing]
58:06 [music playing]
58:09 [music playing]
58:12 [music playing]
58:16 [music playing]
58:19 (chimes)