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00:00:00 Alright, and we are live for the final time this year
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00:00:25 Bruins lose a heartbreaker to one. I think that is maybe the most heartbreaking way possible you think about like Bruins have this long ozone
00:00:33 sequence
00:00:34 Some chances, you know, at least some shot attempts
00:00:38 Florida goes the other way and immediately scores
00:00:42 On just one that kind of beats Wayman shortside
00:00:46 What's your initial take from this game Carl?
00:00:49 if you're
00:00:52 If you're just looking at that final goal
00:00:55 Your
00:00:57 Emphasis on quality shots over quantity killed you and here's why
00:01:02 you have
00:01:05 Possession of the puck in the zone for an extended period of time
00:01:08 The puck comes back up the half all you have you have an opportunity to put that on the net with traffic
00:01:14 And what does McAvoy try to do?
00:01:16 He he tries to get to the middle of the rink by beating an extra player and then it's
00:01:23 It comes back down the other end
00:01:25 right like so
00:01:28 the recognition
00:01:30 Or not recognizing that at that point in the game
00:01:33 It was urgent and then you had to keep the game simple and then you had to throw as many pucks that hurt them
00:01:39 that hurt them and that in that sequence and that's frustrating because
00:01:44 Right, you're they lost a defenseman in Mikko. They lose Barkov for a little bit of time
00:01:50 They're starting to put pressure on them. And then it's just nope. We're gonna make the extra play
00:01:55 we're gonna make the extra play and it's
00:01:57 And I think the thing and this is moving forward
00:02:01 You say to our kids all the time
00:02:04 The life skills self-awareness
00:02:07 They that team
00:02:09 And it's frustrating and this is what I would say
00:02:11 you had an opportunity to win game and game game four and game six and you
00:02:18 You lost in crushing fashion in both games
00:02:20 But moving forward it's the idea of self-awareness
00:02:24 You play a skill game, but you don't have the skilled players to be able to do it. I think you're not
00:02:30 2023
00:02:33 And in your your emphasis on looking for the extra play and possession of the puck and making plays through the middle of the rank
00:02:40 It doesn't work for the for
00:02:45 It doesn't work for the personnel that you have and and they have
00:02:49 got to find an identity
00:02:51 And whatever identity that may be
00:02:55 They've got to adjust their personnel accordingly
00:02:58 I you nailed it. I mean they we mentioned this after a lot of these games. They play a skill game
00:03:05 They're not a skilled team. I also think that final goal shows you what happens when you throw pucks on net
00:03:11 Yeah, right like that's a I haven't checked natural stat trick. I doubt that's a high danger chance. That's outside the high danger area
00:03:18 That's outside the slot
00:03:19 that's just a
00:03:21 quick follow-up shot and
00:03:23 You know, obviously the bruins had
00:03:25 I think they had the advantage in high danger chances tonight
00:03:29 They had you know, they lord knows. I mean mcavoy had that tip wide in the second period he had that
00:03:34 Break to the net in the third and I think like to go back to what you mentioned about
00:03:40 you know, uh
00:03:41 Going for for chances instead of just shooting anything
00:03:44 Yeah, there were times the bruins would break through and like mcavoy in the third when he cut to you know
00:03:49 From the half wall he cut to the net
00:03:51 but there aren't nearly enough of those plays to score consistently on and you'll look at this series and
00:03:58 You know if they just thrown some more pucks on that
00:04:01 I mean 23 shots in the elimination game and sure a lot of you know, they had 10 high danger chances through two periods
00:04:07 That's great
00:04:09 But passing up shots and there was even one I think it was in the third lindholm had it
00:04:14 I wrote it in my notes. They um
00:04:17 It was uh, I forget who it was
00:04:20 But they just passed
00:04:23 Uh, you know, they passed over an open shot or it was actually they might have been in the first period too
00:04:27 Lindholm passes to frederick and it bounces over his stick and like that's what that's the sacrifice you make when you try to go
00:04:33 For those high danger chances and we like high danger chances
00:04:36 That's not we're not against it. But this team should be shooting every single puck and they didn't do that tonight
00:04:40 Yeah, so that's lindholm in the first in the slot looks for the extra pass to frederick. That's posh
00:04:46 Poshnark walking down
00:04:49 Tries to pass back door to marsh on and then it's mcavoy late. It has the puck right in the middle of the rink
00:04:56 try and go
00:04:58 uh
00:04:59 to the other side to poshnark, it's
00:05:01 You're not that what uh, what's the meme that always goes around on the you're you're not that team
00:05:06 You're not that guy pal. Yeah
00:05:09 You're not the team. So I want to uh
00:05:12 I have all the same emotions like i'm i'm sad
00:05:15 The team overachieved like all that's true
00:05:19 And you should be playing in a game seven
00:05:22 Yeah, right like you should be playing in game seven
00:05:26 You there were missed opportunities. You couldn't extend that lead
00:05:31 No
00:05:33 You still didn't you you're in the game and you still never forced florida to defend
00:05:39 and
00:05:41 Right where you we keep talking about pat maroon's one shift. That's
00:05:44 One shift every now and again that they have extended time
00:05:48 And everyone I saw one. Oh, it was that one one three
00:05:53 All right
00:05:54 So what would you do against a one one three if they're trying to clog up the neutral zone comment section fans?
00:05:59 What would you do?
00:06:00 You put the puck in deep
00:06:02 You yeah
00:06:04 You turn the puck over far too much
00:06:06 Yeah, I mean again like we'll get into kind of long-term stuff we'll get into um
00:06:13 you know, we'll get into
00:06:16 this team as a whole this season kind of looking back but
00:06:20 You're right. I mean this is a missed opportunity
00:06:22 And you look at it. I mean they lost every game at home this series
00:06:26 Every game at home game three game four game six
00:06:30 game four was especially bad tonight again, like you
00:06:34 You have those chances you have those, you know, you have chances
00:06:38 And and we haven't even mentioned this yet
00:06:41 Power play completely let you down tonight completely
00:06:46 Completely and and again like you have you you get these opportune power plays
00:06:52 Um, I didn't think the I didn't think the officiating was bad tonight unless i'm forgetting stuff like the brazil play
00:06:57 I mean that was not a penalty and they didn't call it one
00:07:00 um, there were some minus offensive missed calls throughout the game that i'm missing on that i'm sure the comment section will
00:07:05 remind me of but like
00:07:08 I mean that power play was useless
00:07:10 Useless. It just didn't
00:07:12 Did nothing
00:07:14 Couldn't get anything going
00:07:15 That's not even a momentum builder and that was the thing that your penalty kill was on the flip side was so good
00:07:20 McAvoy takes that penalty on on
00:07:23 Chuck, right?
00:07:25 No on bennett. Sorry on bennett
00:07:27 and
00:07:28 They do such a wonderful job of
00:07:30 squeezing out that power play
00:07:33 you
00:07:34 Get a power play yourself and you couldn't muster up
00:07:38 anything that that the
00:07:41 The power play was a detriment to them in this series
00:07:46 Right, they're gonna had gone cold after what the first two three games against toronto and it's just so stagnant
00:07:52 That you you see the puck moving from florida. You see bodies moving towards the net you see exchanges of lanes
00:07:59 And if pastranak doesn't get open
00:08:02 You've got you've got nothing on that power play
00:08:05 and
00:08:07 I think that goes back to what we said to to make zero adjustment because
00:08:11 I think as the series went on and I didn't recognize it early and
00:08:16 you can
00:08:18 Talk to me if not
00:08:20 Florida started to get more and more aggressive on the pk started to jump past it started to challenge you to
00:08:26 challenge you to put
00:08:29 Two passes together and you couldn't do it. Yeah. No
00:08:33 Trying to make more make make the bruins make plays. I couldn't do it. Yeah
00:08:37 so
00:08:39 Yeah, do I think montgomery's gun gone? No, I I think he did enough to keep his job
00:08:44 He's a good coach
00:08:46 They've got to find a way to to make adjustments as
00:08:51 In game and then as series go goes on eight
00:08:55 They just didn't make enough
00:08:58 To me the game the tone was set for tonight, you know when I got a little bit worried
00:09:02 So remember that opening first four shifts from the bruins top four or for first four lines
00:09:08 They don't they hemmed the panthers and completely for almost four minutes
00:09:12 They draw a penalty on an almost goal in front of the net power play comes out does nothing
00:09:18 Does nothing and that was when I was like, all right, this can be the same song and dance again
00:09:23 They're gonna have they're going to have to convert on more than one
00:09:26 Five on five chance and then zaka scores at the end of the first i'm thinking. Okay. All right, that's legitimate
00:09:31 I don't know if I fully believe but
00:09:33 That's more than I expected, you know and zaka gets the monkey off the back
00:09:37 but
00:09:39 I just
00:09:41 I don't know. I you know, I could to me it comes down to missed chances
00:09:45 power play
00:09:47 Not even getting chances on the power play like
00:09:50 And it just hits it like florida was the better team
00:09:53 And I and that stuff is stuff they can control that is what they can control finishing chances power play all that stuff
00:09:59 my overarching thought from the series
00:10:02 Obviously the better team won. We're not denying that but I think our point is like the bruins had chances
00:10:08 They the bruins had chances they had chances tonight. They had chances in the first four games to even it up at 2-2
00:10:15 And just couldn't do it
00:10:18 Just couldn't couldn't do it and they didn't really ever look comfortable in this series even in the two wins. It was
00:10:24 you know
00:10:26 good defense and
00:10:28 They finished chances in those games. That was the difference
00:10:30 Like they had similar numbers of chances in games one and five
00:10:34 but
00:10:37 They couldn't they couldn't capitalize tonight and I think it hits it like, you know, you don't have the high-end skill
00:10:42 to
00:10:44 capitalize regularly
00:10:46 against a team like the panthers
00:10:48 I think you have to give credit to to bob rossky, especially on bro. Oh, yeah
00:10:52 On that that play from zaka out to brazil and he makes that blocker save like obviously there
00:10:58 They obviously on zaka's goal and then brazil trying to elevate just not able to get it get it up as quick as possible
00:11:05 but that
00:11:06 That was a swing of two goals, right? He makes that save they come back down the other end and then a lack of urgency
00:11:12 And the one thing we didn't talk about and this is evident on the last goal too, but evident on the on that first one
00:11:19 except
00:11:20 montorez
00:11:22 Driving middle lane on goal. Number one
00:11:24 just the
00:11:27 The lack of gap control allowing allowing florida to enter the zone as if it
00:11:35 As if diego bass had playing at framingham youth hockey
00:11:38 right
00:11:40 That's how it works. Yeah, just
00:11:42 Zone entry back in get a shot
00:11:46 rebound without anyone
00:11:48 Putting a body on someone from florida
00:11:51 so I I think that was a problem all series to gap control and I initially thought that
00:11:56 Hey, it's this back pressure which typically if you back pressure really hard is forwards the fence can hold a lot
00:12:04 Didn't hold the line at all. Didn't even try to hold it
00:12:07 No, I didn't think I mean
00:12:10 I that first goal that they that lindell scored, you know where I think it was debrusco blocked it in front
00:12:17 And then they just goes kind of a scramble in front. He picks it up
00:12:21 And again that comes from shooting the puck
00:12:24 picking up a block shot a rebound from block shot and
00:12:27 About to I thought I thought their d weren't great tonight
00:12:31 Um, I actually didn't mind
00:12:34 McAvoy, I didn't at least I didn't like I didn't think he was a problem
00:12:38 Um, there were issues though with icing the puck
00:12:41 among some of the others, um
00:12:43 One person I think like, you know, I see a lot of comments by the way
00:12:47 We're gonna get into like long-term stuff
00:12:48 I promise like we're we're gonna get into a lot of what needs to change and what should stay the same and all that stuff
00:12:54 Can't blame swamon for this
00:12:56 Um, obviously that's a goal. He wants back
00:13:00 Look crushed on the ice after the game. I imagine he'll be crushed in the post game after
00:13:05 Which we probably will have sound of I would assume I think amit's down there now
00:13:10 So am it's kind of just like, you know, weaving his way through trying to get the videos
00:13:13 Um, but you can't blame him. You cannot blame him for this. I mean, yeah, can you blame him on the last goal?
00:13:19 Yeah, he should have had it but that's not even in the top
00:13:23 10 reasons why they lost this game
00:13:26 um
00:13:27 Again, it comes down to they didn't finish chances, but you can't blame swamon for this loss or this series
00:13:31 I think what you would blame them for there maybe is the rebound control on the first one
00:13:36 Probably do something a little bit better than that then kick it off into that spot
00:13:40 But it is
00:13:43 It's throwing pucks on net late. It's creating a rebound and then beating someone to a spot, right? Like that's
00:13:50 When you got under that seven minute mark of the third period it was evident that whoever scored the next goal was going to
00:13:56 Win the game. That's that is overtime hot that becomes overtime hockey at that point
00:14:01 And and this is what I would say about the bruins zone entries. I know i'm
00:14:06 Flip-flopping, but it's not flip-flopping but moving through topics it talks it speaks to urgency
00:14:14 Right. What when when boston pulled the goalie and went six on five
00:14:21 And went for puck retrievals coming out of the zone. Their zone entry was what evan it was a dump and chase
00:14:27 That's because you know, it's you can't you know, you can't turn it over there
00:14:32 and
00:14:35 Why not do that the whole series if you knew what you were playing against if you knew that one one three was coming
00:14:41 If you knew that they like to clog the neutral zone
00:14:43 You just never did it and you never change and I I don't know if it's credit to them or
00:14:50 stubbornness you never then changed your
00:14:52 Abandon the quality shot
00:14:55 Florida doesn't play that way. They moved on they dump and chase. They're heavy. They force you to block shots
00:15:02 they force you to take hits and they just
00:15:04 Are in and around the nets game over they won. They are they were
00:15:09 They were and it's interesting because there was a shift I texted you about this. I think it was in the second
00:15:15 When and that was the berseau chance
00:15:18 Dan heinem as the as the f3 cut off the defenseman behind the net
00:15:22 Where so gets open in front
00:15:25 It has a one-timer from the slot
00:15:27 And I just feel like the bruins did also didn't do enough of that either
00:15:30 Like what did you see from the bruins for check tonight?
00:15:32 Yeah, the bruins for check for them. Do you have the whiteboard by the way, or did you not break it out for final game?
00:15:38 Well, I mean it's here
00:15:40 Oh, there it is. One last time
00:15:42 I don't know who said it said it was a kevin. I thought about
00:15:48 Breaking this thing but like
00:15:50 Yeah, no, I mean it was valid it would have been fair
00:15:53 I think we said it in that first period when I sent you a text. I was like, oh man
00:15:57 Pretty passive allowing for florida to
00:16:02 to break out so it was just
00:16:05 Oh, you can't see it
00:16:08 It was this f1
00:16:10 going inside out
00:16:12 F3 was on or f2 on the wall here and then f3 was over top
00:16:17 but it was
00:16:19 It was really passive it was it was back to
00:16:24 What they had done early in the series against toronto now, obviously it was that it was that it was more successful against them
00:16:31 But yeah, they didn't uh, they didn't change it up all that often so
00:16:39 It's like kevin walker brings up an interesting point carl
00:16:43 You bring up all these valid points with room style, but you say monty's back all these point you bring up says monty should be gone
00:16:49 I i'll kind of take that real quick. I I obviously you'll answer to it as well
00:16:53 I think it hits at you know, yeah, there were some missteps in this in these playoffs
00:16:59 But I think you have to look at the body of work
00:17:02 And I know people don't want to hear that right now. But the reality is this team overachieved
00:17:06 team overachieved and
00:17:09 Um, you know, we'll talk about the roster in a bit
00:17:12 But I think you know for montgomery for what he did this year and what this team did. I mean again
00:17:16 They were in first place most of the regular season and then finish in second. They went around
00:17:22 They put up a fight against florida. Could they should they you know, did they miss opportunities? Of course they did
00:17:27 No one loses a playoff series and doesn't miss opportunities that you know
00:17:31 i'm not trying to make excuses for the bruins, by the way, like they
00:17:34 Bungled this one or at least tonight
00:17:38 But I you know, I don't see a world in which they move on from jim montgomery based off of this off of beyond ice stuff
00:17:43 I just I don't
00:17:45 I don't
00:17:46 I think at the end of the day and I and he has a year left on his deal. So like
00:17:50 You know the question, you know
00:17:53 I I would assume an extension will be in the works. I would think
00:17:57 I'd be surprised if they made him go into the year three with no extension
00:18:01 because he's had two great regular seasons it comes down to like what can you do in the playoffs, but
00:18:06 Yeah, that's my thought on that. And yeah, and this is what I would say, especially about this year's team
00:18:12 And and many of the comment
00:18:16 Commenters are alluding to this right you have players in your top six that are better suited for third line roles, right?
00:18:24 like
00:18:26 Charlie coil probably is a second or third line center
00:18:28 Or the key he did have a great regular season. He did not have a good playoff
00:18:33 you know pavel pavel zakat at center is
00:18:36 Probably a third line center, but a second line left winger. So you have players that are
00:18:43 Out of order and I said this I said this before the other day, I don't think you're that far off
00:18:50 But you you need legitimate top six players that can create easy offense
00:18:56 And you you don't you don't have that so I think
00:19:00 Why I think jim montgomery is a really good coach because consistency is a skill
00:19:04 Right like the the players that play at the highest level bring can replicate their best game
00:19:10 More often than not and and during the regular season over the course of the 82 games jim montgomery
00:19:16 Got those players to play their system
00:19:19 Every night that's why they had 109 points
00:19:22 And that's not easy to do so that that message is getting through to them the issue that he
00:19:28 That they had now
00:19:30 That they weren't able to make adjustments to their game when they needed to when it was clear that they needed to make some sort
00:19:39 Of adjustments and they had too much
00:19:41 They had too too difficult of a time to do that and they became predictable
00:19:45 And that's why you lost three games at home during this
00:19:50 Series and you were what in the playoffs two and four
00:19:55 Were you two and four at home?
00:19:58 They won game one against toronto. They won game seven against toronto
00:20:02 So you're two and four
00:20:05 Yeah
00:20:07 That's not they've not been good. There's something about this place. They don't play well here. They don't and they'll even come out good
00:20:13 Like they came out good tonight
00:20:15 But I just yeah, I mean
00:20:17 But yeah, no, I don't think montgomery's job security's in question. No, not at all
00:20:22 I don't I don't and I again if we you know
00:20:24 If this was game seven and they'd lost against the leafs, it'd be a totally different thing. You blow a 3-1 lead two years
00:20:30 And you can't get back from that
00:20:33 But this isn't that
00:20:35 It's a so, you know, and I think we're gonna get in the roster stuff
00:20:39 Like that's to me to me where you make your changes is as you said is like morgan geeky is a phenomenal bottom six guy
00:20:46 And he's a great
00:20:48 Forward you can bring up in mid-january when a top six player has an injury and he can fill in as a center
00:20:54 He can fill in the right wing
00:20:56 Um, and that's awesome, but he's not a top, you know
00:21:00 He's not a number one center on an eastern conference finalist team and I to me like the fact that they were even near it
00:21:07 speaks to the job that
00:21:10 the team did and montgomery
00:21:12 I know people are gonna think i'm I sound like a homer when I say that but like
00:21:15 That's the reality of it, right? Like if you
00:21:18 Going into the year or you know, if you said oh
00:21:21 They're gonna in the playoffs revert to morgan geeky as a number one center. You'd be like, oh they're freaking toast immediately
00:21:27 but you know credit to geeky by the way for
00:21:30 Stepping up and doing his best
00:21:32 But I mean, I I there's there's a lot to change with this roster and they have they have the money to do it
00:21:38 That's the other thing. I don't think this like i'm not all doom and gloom. I know a lot of people like blow it up
00:21:42 Trade mcavoy. I saw kevin walker say package mcavoy and omar, which is great
00:21:47 you know i'm all for the crazy trade proposals as a we're gonna need content this off season, so maybe we'll dive into those but
00:21:52 um
00:21:54 I I don't see that as the thing. I think you build you build around the core. That's what I like. Yeah. No, and I think the thing that's
00:22:00 frustrating from a from
00:22:03 myself again
00:22:04 as a fan perspective is
00:22:06 the missed opportunity because I think that
00:22:08 I think like we're all saying the team had overperformed
00:22:11 they were
00:22:13 They're pretty gutsy all year to be in a situation in game six against florida
00:22:18 We had the opportunity to get to game seven and in game seven as we've seen
00:22:22 Anything can happen and I think they've proven that they've played better on the road
00:22:27 Whether it was game four or game six they had to come out with one of those and they
00:22:34 They for me tonight
00:22:41 For me tonight it comes down to that identity the identity crisis
00:22:46 It's it's the identity crisis
00:22:50 they don't know who they are and they mismanage the puck because they truly I think at their core think that they're
00:22:56 an offensive gifted playmaking team
00:22:59 and and
00:23:01 That team had an inability to play in the playoff all really all playoff if you think about it
00:23:06 They were a better team than toronto florida was a better team than boston
00:23:10 and they struggled through the toronto series and
00:23:13 weren't able
00:23:16 Weren't able to play
00:23:18 that high pace
00:23:19 game with florida
00:23:21 No, they weren't
00:23:24 they weren't and even like, you know, they got bigger this year and kind of a
00:23:28 way to
00:23:30 Fight, you know to be able to match the physicality and it didn't matter
00:23:33 I don't think it made that huge of a difference. You still had some issues breaking the puck out of your own zone
00:23:40 um
00:23:41 You didn't do enough in the offensive zone not nearly enough
00:23:44 um
00:23:46 And I mean again, like I just think that's you're right. That's the story tonight. You just didn't
00:23:50 You didn't get your chances
00:23:52 Well, you did you just didn't finish them
00:23:55 You just didn't finish them. Like I you know
00:23:57 Like what if mcavoy puts that in in the second period? What if brizzo finishes that what you know?
00:24:03 There's a number of plays there was a play at the end there where a puck bounced off a panther and went just wide
00:24:07 Above rossi. I mean and you can go through every game in every game. There were bounces
00:24:11 That trickled past bob rofsky or this or that but again the panthers are the better team
00:24:15 that when you're the better team you you get those bounces or those, you know, those bounces go your way and
00:24:21 You know, I think that was a story this series and I said it to you like if they can get to six
00:24:27 You know they
00:24:30 admirable effort like I I know that's not what you want to hear
00:24:33 But I think when we look back at this and this kind of goes back to like montgomery's job security
00:24:38 like
00:24:39 You know, I think a lot of people had panthers and six
00:24:42 A lot of people had panthers and five and i'm not trying to make excuses because the bruins did this to themselves a lot
00:24:47 Yeah, you had panthers and five. I had panthers and seven
00:24:50 and there's there's issues with this team for sure i'm not like denying that but
00:24:55 Panthers were the better team like that's that was the case. That was the case and
00:25:02 I know people want me to throw like molotovs around and oh this guy sucked that guy's up
00:25:08 and you know
00:25:10 They missed opportunities
00:25:12 They missed opportunities
00:25:14 and
00:25:15 And this was another frustration
00:25:17 Games two three and four florida was
00:25:21 So good
00:25:24 Right. Yeah, their four check was aggressive. It was hard
00:25:28 they made plays on the power play, I think if you go back and you
00:25:32 You watch games five and six
00:25:36 It wasn't it wasn't gritty. Yes
00:25:39 But it wasn't the same level of play that florida had played with for those whatever
00:25:44 Previous three games and and there was that opportunity to walk out of there
00:25:49 Uh with with a win even though you could not score right like in two elimination games you right? I don't remember
00:25:57 Right, like you scored three goals not with a with a goalie in the net like that's not good enough
00:26:02 No, it's not over over reaction episode, I I don't think we're like that
00:26:09 We we could I mean there have been years. I don't know if people remember but like
00:26:15 There have been years carl, you know, you weren't around for it. But like, you know, I think it was after the 2022
00:26:22 When they lost to the no 21 when they lost to the islanders
00:26:26 In that second round. I remember being like, all right, I think it might be time to get some new upper management
00:26:30 but then again, like
00:26:33 I think it was 21 with the islanders series because then 22 they lost to the hurricanes in the first round
00:26:39 and that yeah, and then they
00:26:42 Fired bruce cassidy after that. So I think I was like on the anti don sweeney train for a little bit there
00:26:47 And then they had their season last year went all on the deadline and so I you know
00:26:52 I again, it's a big off season. This is a huge off season
00:26:55 Like I again and i'm trying to look so i'm trying to find the cap hit for next year
00:27:00 So spot track is saying 10 million, but then i'm reading these other stories that say
00:27:06 The bruins if you know with the cap if it goes up to 87.7
00:27:09 The bruins will have around like 27 million to spend
00:27:13 So whatever it is, they have money to spend now
00:27:17 A lot of that is going to go towards jeremy swayman who has more than earned
00:27:22 A big old contract. I mean my god
00:27:24 um, yeah, I think 21 million is the number it seems like that is the the key and that's a lot of money like
00:27:31 you can
00:27:33 You can add depth that can score
00:27:35 You can resign guys like swayman. You can go after guys like elias lindholm
00:27:41 um
00:27:43 I mean that to me like that's the big thing. So I don't think you
00:27:46 you don't
00:27:48 Trade any core core pieces, right?
00:27:51 I
00:27:53 What what do you think you're asking me
00:27:55 Yeah, like you don't you got trade. I don't know like I look at the core. Okay
00:28:00 I look at the core as
00:28:03 mcavoy
00:28:04 posternak swayman
00:28:06 Lindholm carlo because they're locked up long term
00:28:10 Who else is up front
00:28:14 Am I missing anybody
00:28:16 Let me know if i'm missing anybody
00:28:18 Low-rise is part of that now. Yeah
00:28:20 I mean you have to I mean 22 and a half per bruin's cap space. I trust bruin's cap space. So 22 and a half
00:28:28 so I mean that's
00:28:31 Lindholm really struggled in the playoff lindholm had a tough tough night tonight
00:28:36 And I just think he has a core and I know he's locked up for a while
00:28:41 But if that's the level of play that you're going to get over the course of the what next six
00:28:46 Years, I can't imagine that's going to get that much better. Now. He's capable of having a year
00:28:52 but
00:28:55 I mean if
00:28:57 If i'm a gm in any situation, right?
00:28:59 Take out the bruin's aspect of it being from as we've said 10 000 times being from framingham massachusetts born
00:29:06 Born and raised like we are bruin celtics patriots red socks fans
00:29:12 If you take that out any situation that I was ever the gm in I have to listen
00:29:17 On absolutely every phone call. So regard for me right now
00:29:21 regardless
00:29:24 And i'm trying to think through my head if I really would posh knock and mac, but i'm still listening to phone calls
00:29:30 Because I at this point
00:29:32 At this point you're in a situation where you not a not a not necessarily a total rebuild, but if someone's
00:29:41 willing to overspend
00:29:43 on one of those two players and you
00:29:45 You can make your team better in the short term and then potentially get
00:29:50 Draft capital, which you don't have
00:29:54 I would I would have to listen and I mean and I and probably for those two players in particular i'm i'm asking for
00:30:01 You know i'm asking for it all um everything yeah
00:30:08 Yeah, i'm
00:30:09 I want I want your best prospect. I want your first round pick and I want another potential player in the lineup
00:30:16 Like and I know that would that be a rebuild though? Wouldn't that be a rebuild though?
00:30:20 Why?
00:30:22 If you're trading like a posture knocker a mack boy
00:30:24 for
00:30:26 first prospects
00:30:28 No, okay, but I said another roster play and another roster player is you're probably not
00:30:33 right like
00:30:36 You're not getting someone's number one center, but do you get someone's number two?
00:30:40 Right like that. I'm not
00:30:42 No, i'm not willing to mortgage
00:30:44 the present day to
00:30:47 Right, like the team still has an opportunity to win. I I what i'm saying is
00:30:52 I want the best trade that could potentially happen would be a roster player
00:30:57 A prospect and a first round pick something like that, but i'm listening on it
00:31:01 I guess what i'm saying though is i'm listening on everyone
00:31:05 But just for those two players aside like don't like mack boy and passion like I want it all if I want to win that trade
00:31:11 Well, that's the thing if you trade mac if you were again, we're speaking in hypotheticals here
00:31:17 We're not saying we would do it. We're not saying we want to do it. We're just speaking hypotheticals here
00:31:21 This is where I guess we're getting over reaction part
00:31:24 Are you winning a trade?
00:31:27 If you trade those guys typically the team who wins the trade typically not all the time, but mostly
00:31:33 The team who wins the trade gets the best player, you know, you look at like the chuck huberto trade chuck was the best player
00:31:38 Florida won that trade now. That's a kind of trade that shakes a core and that worked for florida great
00:31:45 Obviously they're headed to the conference final for the second straight year
00:31:47 I am curious if there is a trade out there
00:31:51 Because that though mackavo and poshock would be caliber of players that would fall under
00:31:57 that kind of trade of like a mega swap and
00:32:02 I think if you're trading mackavo for let's just say a first
00:32:05 a top prospect like a second
00:32:08 and
00:32:10 You know a roster player
00:32:12 I still think that other teams win in the trade
00:32:14 Like obviously long term maybe sure but those are lottery tickets
00:32:18 Like ultimately those and I want draft picks too like to me
00:32:22 I think the the guy who nets you picks or a pick is ol mark
00:32:25 like to me like that's
00:32:27 That's the guy you want to give up and get picks for like to me
00:32:30 I look at colorado and again, he needs to he needs to approve it. But like colorado has a first
00:32:35 this year
00:32:37 Like is that something they do the mackavoy poshock thing is interesting though?
00:32:41 Because again, like I just I I don't think there's a trade out there
00:32:45 where
00:32:46 you can
00:32:47 compete next year
00:32:49 Unless it's a star for star swap
00:32:52 Unless it's a star for star swap. Like if it's mackavoy, you know, I see a lot of people saying brady kachuk
00:32:59 Like I don't that you know, he's great. Brady kachuk is awesome
00:33:03 But is he a 50 goal scorer like david poshock? I mean again like think about the bruins like in my lifetime
00:33:09 Which has only been 25 years. They've had one
00:33:12 Really good goal scorer
00:33:15 Miss david poshock. I mean for years even everyone they won in 2011. It's like well, they don't have you know a goal scorer
00:33:20 Now they do
00:33:22 They have that guy mackavoy. No mark for mccarr. I'd be for it. I'd love to bring kiel mccarr you mask guy
00:33:27 I would love to bring kiel mccarr home
00:33:29 But I I you know
00:33:32 I don't think I I don't know. I know we're just discussing. I know you don't like you're not like
00:33:37 Oh trade mackavoy trade posture knock, but i'm just saying i'm listening
00:33:40 I've got people I know people are people are saying oh, he's a regular season goal scorer
00:33:44 The numbers in the playoffs are good. He scored the overtime winner in game seven
00:33:48 You know, I think if you get more around to me you want to get more around him
00:33:52 You want to get to me you want to build around?
00:33:56 Around him that's the question right you have the money you have the money
00:33:59 That's how you do it and I that free agency's not my favorite way either by the way
00:34:03 I know but so your options at center are steven stamkos who's older
00:34:07 And elias linholm and elias linholm who will then have been on his third team
00:34:12 In a year like is that the guy that's going to make him?
00:34:15 much better
00:34:18 Someone said so from 12 years old till now i've been has been riding pretty high. Yeah, I have actually it's been a good run
00:34:24 It's been a good run. Um in patra as well. Don't forget patra. Um,
00:34:28 But patra is not a first line center if he grows into his game. He's not the next year either
00:34:34 He's a second line guy
00:34:37 To me like and again
00:34:40 Linholm is all is your best bet
00:34:42 like and again, unless unless a swap comes up unless there is a
00:34:47 Center somewhere like leon dry side all out in edmonton who doesn't want to sign an extension
00:34:53 Like to me, that's the fun like you want to talk fun
00:34:56 If if leon dry side also, you know what? I don't want to come back to edmonton. I don't want to sign an extension
00:35:03 him and pastranaka buddies
00:35:05 German players typically like boston. It's a good there's a good history of german players enjoying boston here
00:35:11 That's your guy
00:35:14 That's your guy, but I think realistically
00:35:17 Linholm is your guy and you know
00:35:20 Two-way guy. It's an upgraded center for for um, pasha. You put zaka on the left
00:35:26 Like I I think it's like, you know, you have posture not playing with better players in that situation
00:35:31 And I think you also have to see what pasha wants
00:35:34 He's you're committed to him long term too. And I know it's not a good idea to always have players. Um,
00:35:40 Pick who they play with
00:35:43 but that's a guy who's
00:35:45 Here long term and you I don't see them trading him unless there's that star for star swap. I do wonder though
00:35:51 And this is going to be an interesting thing
00:35:53 like the when the you know, the panthers got the president's trophy and then lost in the first round,
00:36:00 I think in
00:36:02 2122
00:36:04 They went and made that huberto trade now huberto was different because huberto was I think had a year left on his deal
00:36:10 And kachuk didn't want to be in calgary anymore. So it's kind of like the perfect storm
00:36:14 So, I you know the macapoy posh marker locked up long term the question is like, you know
00:36:20 Do you pat you know, does zaka go in a package or something like that? But that's not getting anything huge
00:36:25 That's not getting any huge. Um, I want to get to a lot of a lot more trade stuff a lot more this stuff
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00:37:57 I know people are saying update the read I was going to today
00:38:03 but I thought it'd be bad karma for the bruins if I if I did if I did a read
00:38:07 Earlier today and had it all be cell fix and you know, oh just because the bruins are out of the playoffs
00:38:12 So I decided not to
00:38:14 Obviously didn't end up mattering but I had everybody's best interest in mind. I had the listeners best interest in mind
00:38:20 With that yes, i'm just gonna add kevin walker
00:38:24 Comment section. I need to know two things
00:38:28 You hate elias linholm. Why and why is you've been adamant throughout this whole series? Jim montgomery's going to
00:38:35 seattle
00:38:38 so
00:38:39 If you can answer that kevin, that'd be great for me. I'd love to be informed on that
00:38:43 And i'm not being sarcastic. I just you dislike linholm
00:38:46 so
00:38:50 I know lindholm has I know lindholm hasn't fit well in vancouver
00:38:53 But I think that's partially because they have two top line centers in peterson and miller again
00:38:58 I'm, not a vancouver connects us expert. So like I you know, i'm not going to pretend to be one
00:39:02 But I think that probably has something to do with it
00:39:05 It's a good two-way center
00:39:08 but I you know again
00:39:10 Do you want is he your number one guy for the next?
00:39:13 Five to six years. Are you cool with that? Like that's the question
00:39:19 And if that's the bet because again you you don't have the picks to trade
00:39:23 You don't have the prospects to trade for like a top center
00:39:28 So free agency is probably going to be your best bet and I think that's a dangerous thing
00:39:32 But that's probably gonna be your best bet. It would make them better next year though. They rolled out zaka lindholm
00:39:37 fosternock as the top line
00:39:40 And then you had marshand
00:39:43 coil
00:39:46 And
00:39:48 Stamkos
00:39:50 That's pretty good now, you know, is that stamkos is that to foley is that to brusque you want to have a real conversation
00:39:57 Jake to brusque that's to me like that's a really interesting one
00:40:03 Jake to brusque because he's a ufa now
00:40:06 Jake to brusque is a ufa
00:40:09 Yeah
00:40:10 I think the way he played in this playoff
00:40:12 I think the the the what's been the issue with him throughout his career is the level of consistency now
00:40:19 I will say this he's
00:40:20 Probably consistently a 40 point scorer and the same thing with mcavoy. He has the talent to be 60
00:40:26 Right like somewhere in that 60 to 65 range
00:40:30 Because of the place pace that he plays with he can be physical at times. So you want more out of him
00:40:37 If he plays the way he played
00:40:41 In this playoffs over the course of an 80 game schedule. He's having a really nice. He's having a career year, right?
00:40:49 He has been able to to live up that
00:40:51 Me because of the pace that he plays with and you cannot afford to get get slower
00:40:57 I think you pay him the 5 million a year
00:40:59 Like it may be more than that
00:41:02 I think it probably ends up being more especially after this playoff run. I think he finished
00:41:05 He might have been their top scorer. I gotta check
00:41:08 Yeah, I don't but I don't think you get into the six million dollar range with him five five and a half
00:41:14 I would pay him like he makes four and a half right now
00:41:17 So you're gonna have to give him a bump
00:41:19 but I don't think he's deserved that much of a bump to get to get some into the six and
00:41:23 Six and a half million dollar range over the I think he's probably looking for six and something
00:41:28 Um, he's 27 years old. He's 27 years old
00:41:33 I would love to stay at five and 27. Whatever. That is that 27 and a half i'd like to stay there
00:41:41 Um and don and give don credit don sweeney his credit. He usually is able to get players to
00:41:48 take hometown discounts except for
00:41:52 Pashinak and that's hard, you know hard to
00:41:54 make your
00:41:57 You know franchise player take a discount, but can he get to brusque to take something like that?
00:42:02 I yeah
00:42:06 He's not making a difference
00:42:08 Jake, tabruski is not making the difference
00:42:10 but
00:42:12 Him slotted in on your say he can play with anyone
00:42:14 He can play any style style of game and he's one of your quicker
00:42:18 If not your quickest players, you cannot afford to lose that because you can't
00:42:22 Who you can't ask then trent frederick to step up and play a second line role like you can't get slower in the top six
00:42:30 well, I think that what I think some people are saying and I think it'd be an interesting thing is
00:42:34 You know, if you don't resign debruss, you have the money to go out and get
00:42:39 one or two wingers, but I
00:42:41 See going into the playoffs. I was I think I was more
00:42:47 Pro moving on
00:42:52 But he did have a really good post season. He did
00:42:55 Like there's no denying the rest get a good post season and I just I don't know
00:42:59 I wonder if there's something there. Maybe he's getting me again, but in debruss, you know exactly what he is
00:43:04 so everyone that's asking for
00:43:07 Asking to move on from debruss who you're gonna go get like don't tell me that you're gonna overspend for jake genzel
00:43:14 Right, you're not you're not gonna overspend for that guy a guy that's gonna look for what seven and seven and a half eight
00:43:21 I don't know for a winger. Maybe he's gonna get paid. He'll get paid. Yeah, so
00:43:26 Jake debruss if you can get him at five and a half good, but take me
00:43:31 Give him to me. He's he'll play left wing on your second line. He plays fast. He can be physical
00:43:36 Yeah, he's gonna annoy you at times
00:43:38 So
00:43:41 I want to get to the wings in a second. But first we do have a lot we have we have audio of swayman
00:43:46 So and it'll put that up there right now
00:43:48 Should go up there. Let's see
00:43:57 If I do it does not take a no no for an answer
00:44:02 Since we were doubted from the beginning losing obviously huge pieces
00:44:07 And everyone's stepping up and and making a name for themselves
00:44:11 I would I would be a part of that a thousand times over if I could
00:44:16 Cheers
00:44:25 I couldn't be more grateful to
00:44:27 Have a city of a home base that's that's as supportive as as boston
00:44:32 And they mean so much more than just fans to me. It's it's truly a home for me now
00:44:39 And to hear that was was above and beyond i'm just so grateful
00:44:45 For all the love and support and uh, and we wouldn't be here without without them. So that was a
00:44:53 That was an incredible moment to be a part of
00:44:55 I uh
00:45:05 It's just overwhelmed with with emotion. It's it's not about
00:45:09 Me as an individual. It's about it. That's about our team
00:45:12 And to see it all end so abruptly is something you never want to feel
00:45:19 But i'm just so proud of everyone and and and being here and setting the foundation for
00:45:24 for what's to come next and
00:45:27 and obviously I want to stay in the moment and
00:45:29 And
00:45:34 really
00:45:35 embrace what we have in this locker room and what we accomplished this year, but
00:45:38 That was a really special moment. I'm, very grateful
00:45:42 Yeah, he's here long term
00:45:46 He's here. He's he's gonna get paid this off season. I have no doubt about that
00:45:51 he like
00:45:53 There's no I don't think anyone's arguing against it either
00:45:55 That's probably an eight year
00:45:58 Seven million dollar deal seven and a half maybe that's probably gonna be eight and sixty
00:46:04 I would assume
00:46:07 so again
00:46:09 Stinks it's two straight years for him where he's kind of been distraught at the end of the year, but
00:46:14 You know, I do I he's he could be a playoff goalie, you know, you know, he can handle a lot of work
00:46:19 I think that might be one of your biggest takeaways from this postseason is that dude
00:46:23 Can play multiple games in a row? Yeah, so he's a Bruin for life. I think that's
00:46:27 Probably true after this and I think old mark's gone
00:46:31 that's like
00:46:33 obvious
00:46:35 I think you have the p right like I think that's two you have the pieces if if slot in the right spots
00:46:42 I mean you got swam in you got
00:46:44 like McAvoy Carlo lower I
00:46:47 right you even up up front like
00:46:51 You've got guys like coils a great second or third line center. He really is
00:46:57 Yeah, it does a lot of does a lot of good things. But when you ask him to
00:47:01 He's had a good season. Yeah, when you ask him to produce at a high level, he's not capable of doing that. That's fine
00:47:08 because he
00:47:11 Right same thing zaka second line where great
00:47:13 geeky third or fourth line
00:47:16 brazo third or fourth line
00:47:19 Frederick third or fourth line, but they can't be asked to come up and play on your first and second line
00:47:24 It's not and then patras slots back and he's probably your second line guy
00:47:28 Keep the brosk. You've got but you do have to find a number one center or something
00:47:33 As close to number one center as possible
00:47:38 You want to play this game
00:47:40 I'm gonna look at free agent free agent wings because I I know that I will talk a lot about this in the future
00:47:46 But you might not necessarily so I want to go through some of these now. Oh
00:47:50 No, I mean
00:47:52 Well, maybe you can come on you can come on for a bruins beat if you want
00:47:55 People I think the people do want it at some point, especially next year. So i'm gonna go in doing that. Um
00:48:02 steven stamkos
00:48:05 jake genzel sam reinhardt
00:48:07 anthony mantha
00:48:09 tyler burtuzzi
00:48:11 tuvo terabainen
00:48:12 jason zucker
00:48:14 Jakob silverberg. He's older though. Verona. Jakob. Verona. Jonathan marshes. Oh
00:48:20 Uh, vladimir tarasenko elias lindholm
00:48:26 David perron, but that's he's 36. Um
00:48:32 Well tyler to foley. He's 32
00:48:34 anthony bavillier
00:48:37 He's 26
00:48:38 Then you hit to brusk. This is current. This is organized by current cap it so like
00:48:43 And then after that, I mean like pavelsky's 40, um, anthony duclaire is an interesting one for depth
00:48:51 um
00:48:54 Matt duchesne
00:48:56 max domey
00:48:58 So, I mean there are interesting options out there
00:49:02 I think you do what you clearly have the money to you have the money to um
00:49:08 You have the money to go out and add someone like that
00:49:13 I think you could whether you you know
00:49:14 I think you can resign you might be able to resign to brusk and do that and go out and get you know a top six
00:49:20 winger
00:49:22 but
00:49:23 Yeah, I agree with you center should be number one. I mean out of that group like
00:49:26 Obviously you you'd want a reinhardt or a genzel, but you're not paying for that
00:49:32 But like do you extend for a guy like elias lindholm? Do you give him a seven or eight year deal?
00:49:39 at
00:49:41 49 million, you know seven times seven
00:49:44 I don't know because he also kind of tanked his value in vancouver
00:49:47 So, you know might be getting a little bit cheaper than you would have
00:49:51 And then on the wing do you go for a guy like, you know, do you think about bringing pertuzzi back?
00:49:55 you know, do you think about to foley I know they're older but
00:50:00 I don't the more I
00:50:02 Think about it the more i'm cool with jake debrusk
00:50:05 Coming back at least right now. I mean I talked you into it
00:50:09 And he played himself into it
00:50:14 And and money-wise like you have the space
00:50:17 Just don't overpay but like you're right, you know what you're gonna get
00:50:21 You know, you're at least getting 40 to 45 points in a down year
00:50:26 Penalty killer
00:50:29 There's the there's the offensive skill
00:50:31 Can you hear that a little bit but
00:50:36 Doesn't distract me all that much I I think you've got to figure out and this is an internal conversation
00:50:43 What's the type of team that you envision yourself to be moving forward before you make
00:50:49 Any of these decisions right? Like I don't want them. I don't want to see them go out
00:50:55 and and
00:50:58 I'll just pick a name like tarot teravina because that's a
00:51:02 A good player that can play in your top six. What I would I rather see them do is hey, we're gonna be
00:51:09 We're gonna be the edmonton oilers which is
00:51:13 We are going to get up and down. We're going to live in transition. We're gonna we're gonna kill you on the power play
00:51:18 All right. Now let's go get steven stamko so that he can be
00:51:23 um
00:51:25 He can sit alongside
00:51:27 I would love steven stamko. Oh, I would love
00:51:30 Just relax because I wouldn't but i'm just saying
00:51:34 Right, like i'm just i'm just saying if you want to win on the power play and you want to live in transition
00:51:40 Let's go get him so he can
00:51:42 Help out passion out a little bit now if you want to get a little bit
00:51:46 uh, if you want to be a north cell team that
00:51:49 Has to dump and chase and you physically wear people out below the goal line
00:51:56 All right, maybe you're getting
00:51:58 Maybe that is anthony mantha someone that's in that same thing as jake nebraska 40 to 45 point but now
00:52:05 You're building out your three lines
00:52:07 That they're all similar. You don't have this one top line, but you're just gonna
00:52:14 Roll people over with some sort of depth. I I would I would much prefer that they have those conversations
00:52:19 you know in top management in in conversation with
00:52:25 montgomery as opposed to do what they did this year, which is
00:52:28 I haven't I have
00:52:31 A vision of the way I would like to play but my personnel is not capable of playing that way
00:52:35 I want them to make the statement. We are a possession team that is looking for high quality shots, even though I
00:52:41 Dislike that
00:52:44 And then go get those players
00:52:46 right
00:52:47 they can't
00:52:49 They can't put people in a position to fail which means I can't ask
00:52:55 I can't ask morgan geeky to look for
00:52:57 quality shots all the time I can't
00:53:00 I can't ask justin brazola to hold on to the puck an extra time and and look for the pass
00:53:06 like that
00:53:08 That do that first and then let's go get
00:53:10 X y and z so like what style of play would you rather?
00:53:14 Rather like high flying or like, um, uh, where are you going where are you down?
00:53:24 I mean, I think where are you down is better for the playoffs?
00:53:26 Like I that you know, and it's weird because they kind of have that right now, but they go for those high danger chances
00:53:33 So that and you're having a tough time getting out of your own zone. I was as you were
00:53:38 Talking I wrote down like i'm gonna give you a top nine for next year
00:53:42 And I want to know if you're cool with this, right?
00:53:45 So let's let's just say hypothetically they roll into next year with zaka lindholm posturnoch is their first line
00:53:52 Marchand coiled the brusque is the second because you said re-signed the brusque and then the third line is frederick
00:53:59 Patrick or patra or gigi in the middle and like tyler to foley on the right
00:54:05 Are you cool with that?
00:54:08 Yeah, I mean I think it you'd be hard-pressed to go out and get two top-end free agents like that
00:54:17 I mean i'd be okay if you're going I mean
00:54:22 I'd be fine if you go patra frederick and geeky
00:54:25 Like yeah, that's your third as your third line
00:54:29 I know i'm not thinking big enough. I know i'm not thinking big enough. Um, and I think they should think bigger but i'm saying like
00:54:37 Realistic slash like low end of what they might do
00:54:42 Because again, if they bring back to brusque, he's going to be in the top six
00:54:48 The pro to me the big pro to bringing back jake brusque. Yes, kevin campus lindholm one c
00:54:53 I I agree and macros look in net people forget macros should have been in that tonight. Um
00:54:58 The the pro to keeping debrusque over going out and getting a
00:55:04 similar caliber winger from somewhere else
00:55:08 is
00:55:10 He's comfortable here. A lot of times guys sign big deals or
00:55:14 Longer ish term deals in a new place and don't fit and suddenly you're
00:55:18 Screwed whereas you're right, you know what you're getting with the brusque. He's played here. He's had his ups and downs here
00:55:25 You know, he's again. Is he going to put you over the edge? No, he's not
00:55:30 but
00:55:32 He you can put him in the top six to me
00:55:34 The question is again and it goes back to this of like they need a number one center
00:55:38 but wing depth
00:55:40 Like martian's getting older i'm not saying deal him or anything like that, but he's getting older
00:55:45 You know, I do think you have to and again if they if they roll in the next year with wingers of zaka pop in debrusque
00:55:51 That's an okay. That's a solid winger core going forward
00:55:55 I don't think that's bad, but I would still try to upgrade it because it might be easier to upgrade at wing than it is
00:56:01 at center
00:56:02 where you've been
00:56:04 That's tough you're gonna have to
00:56:10 Go center through free agency because you don't have any trade assets, right? Like you've got
00:56:15 You've got oh mark, but that's probably going to get you a some sort of pick
00:56:19 I don't he's not getting you a first line center
00:56:21 The only way through trade that you're going to get a first line center is posh knock or macavoy and you're probably you're not going to do
00:56:27 That and so now the only way for you to address that is through free agency
00:56:32 And usually top centers don't get to free agency. So you're going to pick up
00:56:36 A number two center that's going to have to slot on in on your number one
00:56:40 The old the only issue for you is that you had a second and a third line center
00:56:44 Playing on the first line all year and that that's not good enough to get you over the edge now get you over the edge
00:56:50 Elias linholm's not getting you over the edge either, but it's probably is it probably your best option at center through free agency?
00:56:58 Yeah, right like you're not going to go
00:57:03 No, i've been lynch more of an upgrade anyway, yeah, and I don't know what you would I don't know what you would trade
00:57:09 I mean you do have to address like
00:57:11 what are you doing with all mark because
00:57:13 He needs to be traded
00:57:18 No doubt
00:57:20 No doubt, and I don't fault them for not trading him at the deadline either. I know you and I disagree on that
00:57:25 I the reason I did first of all, he didn't approve of it. So like
00:57:29 You couldn't do it
00:57:31 But secondly again, like you didn't know jeremy swaman was going to go on the run that he did
00:57:35 No, he was he was had a rough second half people forget that
00:57:39 So like I think that that's important to note as well. I want to get more into this
00:57:43 We also have some montgomery sound coming up
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00:59:39 Now back to the show
00:59:41 We've been talking a lot about jake debrusk and I just was looking through twitter
00:59:47 And joe haggarty tweeted jake debrusk reveals to the media that he played with a broken left hand during the last few months
00:59:54 Of the regular season and he got healthy just before the playoffs
00:59:58 Bring him back
01:00:01 Bring him back
01:00:03 I'm with you
01:00:04 What?
01:00:05 Sorry, they are they are
01:00:07 uprooting the seats
01:00:10 I apologized everybody. Um
01:00:13 Yeah, I
01:00:16 Bring him back
01:00:17 and you
01:00:18 my god
01:00:20 Like it freaking they're taking the whole place down
01:00:23 uh
01:00:24 But yeah, I assume you did only re it only enforced that you want to bring him back. I would I would
01:00:29 I mean, I certainly would have brought him back before that. I I just think
01:00:33 Playing in boston is it is it's a difficult mark not it's not a toronto level market
01:00:39 But it's a passionate fan base that has an expectation of all of their teams
01:00:44 You've got to you've got to be prepared for that
01:00:46 Jake, debrusk has dealt with some scrutiny
01:00:49 From media from fans. I think he he showed that
01:00:54 Whether you like his consistency or not, he's consistent
01:00:58 um
01:01:00 and understanding exactly what you're going to get in night in night out and the idea that
01:01:04 You can put him on the power play. Sorry, you can put him on the power play. You can use them on the pk
01:01:10 You can use them up and down that lineup. I think that is
01:01:14 that
01:01:16 That's valuable
01:01:18 It's very valuable
01:01:20 I I think one good thing you did get out of this postseason is
01:01:23 You know that swayman is your guy going forward and debrusk looks like someone you want to keep
01:01:29 Um, I want to talk more about this. But first we have jim montgomery
01:01:33 You appear to be in control of the game in the second period you had multiple grade a's
01:01:39 And when they didn't go did you sense frustration at all?
01:01:42 uh
01:01:43 I didn't sense frustration
01:01:45 But the lack of our ability to score in the playoffs in general
01:01:50 um, you know
01:01:53 You can't win every game to one
01:01:55 you know
01:01:57 jimmy
01:01:59 Just coach to to further expand on that. Um, what did you think?
01:02:02 Like what's the main reason you guys couldn't execute and get those goals when you need them?
01:02:07 um
01:02:09 Well, we had the opportunities, right? I think we had five odd man rushes after two periods tonight
01:02:15 So and then game four we had several we had three breakaways
01:02:19 I mean that's you know comes down to you know, their goalie was good and we didn't beat him. I mean at times, you know
01:02:27 um played too much in our in our end
01:02:30 in the uh, second and third period tonight
01:02:38 Yeah, I mean he's you know, I I just
01:02:41 I'll let him out. Try it. I I I I don't you know
01:02:47 He's right you didn't capitalize on chances you didn't we we covered it
01:02:54 Like I I just they didn't execute on chances comes down and so here's the thing what he's saying there is
01:03:06 We're not quite good enough to capitalize on those chances because he's multiple breakaways multiple odd man rushes
01:03:12 Which begs the question then?
01:03:15 Why not create second chance opportunities why not
01:03:19 Why not find yourself like none? They had like no second chance opportunities
01:03:25 Why not find yourself around the net more? Why not during this playoffs when you're struggling to score? Why wasn't it? All right
01:03:32 and and
01:03:34 I don't get it
01:03:36 Watch anytime they went low to high
01:03:39 And this is a
01:03:42 At no point
01:03:44 So on zone entries the big thing is and this is where I need a bit of an education, too
01:03:49 On zone entries, it's gained middle ice
01:03:52 When pucks went low to high
01:03:55 Defenseman never moved to middle ice. It never got off the wall immediately went d2d but
01:04:01 No movement. They didn't create a hinge. There was no f3 that came up. They just planted their feet and then threw it right back behind
01:04:09 Went back behind the net shoot diego
01:04:14 Low to high
01:04:18 Low to high sorry, is this annoying at one hour? No, I don't care. We're fine
01:04:24 All right, low win the puck below the goal line diego and then the puck goes to the point right away
01:04:32 and so usually
01:04:33 teach your defensemen gain middle ice
01:04:36 so that
01:04:38 I can go either way. I can be a threat to pass but I can also be a threat to shoot
01:04:42 And they just planted their feet moved it over here and then threw it behind the net
01:04:46 I don't like
01:04:49 I
01:04:52 You didn't so, you know, you're not skilled enough that's what he's saying right there
01:04:57 And you didn't make the game hard enough for florida and you didn't try to create opportunities around the net
01:05:01 You still stuck and don sweeney came out and said
01:05:04 We are a team that believes in the quality shot. Well, it
01:05:08 Didn't work in this period
01:05:11 No, it didn't. It's a period in the series in this class. It didn't it didn't at all. Um
01:05:17 You know, it's interesting this was something you mentioned before and we went to um, we went to game time but like
01:05:26 In terms of trade chips, do you want to get crazy?
01:05:29 like I know you mentioned like getting a number one center like you could
01:05:34 Probably if you know, depending on the number one center that comes up
01:05:37 Is patra available
01:05:42 Like do you package around patra and again? I don't think they I don't think they do because I think they really like you
01:05:47 Not to not just him you can't do like a one for one
01:05:52 But to package like if you you know, if it was a you know, patra plus future picks
01:05:57 Like then I then maybe I think maybe you could I do the only person that's getting you a number one cent
01:06:05 Our only people are mcavoy
01:06:07 In pastrock, there's only one that will get you it
01:06:10 Sometimes the market can stink sometimes the market can stink and if again if there's a player and I don't I don't have a name
01:06:17 but if there's someone who
01:06:19 sees someone patra played like 10 games patra has
01:06:22 Ceiling and again i'm not I don't want to trade patra. I'm not saying to trade patra
01:06:27 I'm just saying in terms of if you if a number one center pops up and you got a trade for him
01:06:31 And I don't I don't think that I don't think a package around patra beats out other teams
01:06:36 But if there's like a taylor hall type scenario where he only wants to go to the bruins or a player
01:06:41 Has a no movement clause and the bruins are on their
01:06:44 Trade list or whatever
01:06:46 What if we say please would that help with the number one center would okay say please you get a number one cent
01:06:50 That's how it works
01:06:52 That's my only outside the box. I don't have a first round pick this year either
01:06:55 You don't have a first or second years or a third years
01:06:58 Oh, no, they don't they won't pick it
01:07:01 Who's gonna trade away and can we patra is gonna be?
01:07:05 a nice player
01:07:07 He's gonna be a second or third line center. He's not gonna be a number one. So why would a team say to you?
01:07:12 Oh, yeah, we don't know that yet. We don't know that yet
01:07:15 If he was gonna be
01:07:17 Yeah, well, that's great
01:07:20 Gonna be a good player
01:07:21 Do you think that they would have sent him to world juniors if they felt potential number one center vibes out of matt patra?
01:07:28 He's not he wasn't gonna be number one this year, but not good
01:07:32 On the road, he's not saying he's officially gonna be that but if you're a team that's that is desperate
01:07:38 in a crunch
01:07:41 I don't know
01:07:43 I think you could headline a package
01:07:45 I I do
01:07:48 I'm, not saying it's gonna happen. I don't I don't think they trade him
01:07:50 but a deal with patra and
01:07:53 Future first or something like I don't know
01:07:56 You're just kind of come up with stuff. There's nothing else outside. There's nothing else. Here's how you would get a
01:08:01 What kind of center are we talking elite we're talking second line that could play your first because
01:08:11 Because that you're trading for yeah, just give me a name how if we're playing this game. Give me a name a name
01:08:19 A name
01:08:22 Is a tough one like I I would say someone like a true elite number one center is not getting dealt. No
01:08:30 So it would be it would be a somewhat people like pierre luke dubois, but i'm not i'm not
01:08:36 I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I know barzal is a popular one
01:08:40 but it's i'm thinking more of someone who's an elite second line center who can
01:08:44 Jump up and be fine as a first line center. It could be your first line center going forward with good wings around them
01:08:51 I don't have a name at this moment. I just don't he sure that was one that people say but
01:08:55 to make that a possibility you're probably
01:08:58 You're probably packaging patra and lower eye in order to get make that a reality
01:09:08 Could be and I wouldn't I would again I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that low rise
01:09:13 That's what I said, that's what I said to you
01:09:16 All right, like people like pierre luke dubois, I think la probably regrets their eight and eight
01:09:22 Right. Oh, yeah, at least right now if you can get them to keep his hat what whatever pick a percentage
01:09:31 Let's just for this keep half his salary
01:09:33 I'd try it
01:09:36 And try it
01:09:38 And can you get like pack like that?
01:09:40 Is that a thing you can get with all mark all mark for pierre luke dubois and half of his salary?
01:09:44 Can I give you a dumb answer
01:09:48 Yeah, you can I wore I I worry about what he would do to the room
01:09:52 I do. Yeah, they don't again. There's no more bergeron. There's no more chara
01:09:57 This is a a new core marchand has you know a couple years left
01:10:02 I I I don't know. I know it's
01:10:06 it's a
01:10:07 It's a dumb answer
01:10:09 But like I do wonder what he would do. I do wonder what to do to the locker room
01:10:12 I do because he has not worked anywhere
01:10:15 He just hasn't and I know he was a changed man going into this year and the production wasn't there
01:10:19 I don't know the ins and outs of la
01:10:21 But that's a that's a big risk and I know it's it would only be like four million
01:10:25 But even then i'd rather have a pick i'd rather have a pick
01:10:29 I would and if i'm wrong in the in the future then i'm wrong, but I don't want him
01:10:35 If if there's already questions about whether this core can get over the top of mcavoy imposter knock and that crew
01:10:41 Adding him. I don't think it's going to be
01:10:44 I don't I don't think adding him is going to do it. That's where I come from
01:10:48 Bob okay
01:10:53 Yeah, that's where I come at. Yeah, that's fine. All right. Yeah, I could but I get it I get I get the idea
01:10:59 You you take you know a guy who hasn't worked anywhere and hope he works here, which is fine
01:11:05 I you know, but I just rather him not in that dressing room. Okay, and if it were if he if he worked out
01:11:11 he worked out but
01:11:13 I I don't know. I I this is gonna be a whole off season
01:11:15 These but they have the money. That's a good thing. They have the money
01:11:20 They do have the money to try to to do some stuff to get creative. The question is how creative did they get?
01:11:25 Someone asked earlier about danton heinem
01:11:28 Whether or not they keep him
01:11:30 I keep him
01:11:32 I keep getting I actually thought day nine. It was good tonight. He almost killed sam bennett
01:11:36 It's crazy
01:11:37 But I like that night. I do he's gonna get more than league minimum
01:11:41 but
01:11:43 You know, it's around like 900 to a million or something
01:11:46 I mean, but look at the way that you just constructed the lines, right? You didn't have
01:11:52 You didn't have them in your top nine
01:11:55 and
01:11:57 Really for teams to be successful your your fourth line has to be minimum guys, which means beach or brazo
01:12:03 someone else
01:12:05 Right, so I just don't think that there's a spot for him
01:12:08 To fit next year and he's gonna want and probably will get
01:12:13 You one and a half two million dollars a year, right? So
01:12:16 um, and you do need to get faster and so
01:12:22 I just don't I don't see a fit for him here in boston next year. Great. He did a great job
01:12:27 Admirable played above right like did everything that
01:12:30 The boston team this year this year did which is play above their head. He played above
01:12:34 and now he'll go get his money and
01:12:37 I just I don't think he'll I don't think there'll be a spot for him
01:12:41 I wonder what his market's gonna be
01:12:44 Does someone give him like a three-year?
01:12:46 No, two million dollar deal
01:12:50 Like no, no, I I don't think so. No, you're probably looking for a team that wants to get better on the fourth line
01:12:56 uh
01:12:58 Not a not necessarily a cup contending team, but a playoff caliber team
01:13:03 that's looking to solidify that and I can't give you a
01:13:06 uh, you know who that might be off the top of my head, but
01:13:09 That's where he'll he'll get probably a million and a half next year somewhere
01:13:18 Yeah
01:13:19 I don't I mean if you can get him on the cheap again, but I
01:13:21 Not taking cheap again. He had a good year
01:13:24 No, I just wonder like he's you know, very close to montgomery because they played a coached middenver and this has been really
01:13:31 The only place in the nhl he has consistently worked like consistently
01:13:34 Stayed at the nhl level
01:13:37 But I you know, he's a nice piece. I still wouldn't mind having him. He is kind of a swiss army knife
01:13:42 up front
01:13:44 Yeah, but again your fourth line guys and your extra force have got to be
01:13:47 League minimum guys, they have to be you. Oh the days the days of playing the merlot line each
01:13:54 A million and a half dollars. I like what the islanders do. It's just not
01:14:00 Yeah anymore. Well if they're as good as casey's azekas like sign me up
01:14:05 cal clutterbuck, but you don't
01:14:08 You don't have those guys. So beacher's gotta beacher's gotta figure out his role brazil
01:14:14 Probably move him back to the fourth line and then now all right now my third and fourth lines can fight for some minutes
01:14:20 create some competition within that
01:14:24 Within that room a bit
01:14:28 I just lost it on my oh, yes. This is interesting like if they went in the next year with the fourth line of lauco beacher and brazil
01:14:36 I'm cool with that
01:14:38 I'm cool with that. There's a big minimum guys entry level
01:14:42 type stuff
01:14:44 I'm cool with that
01:14:45 um an interesting
01:14:47 Oh continue no, and this one's gonna be where you know better than me
01:14:50 Is there anyone in providence that slots in that space that can make you faster but play in a third fourth line role?
01:14:57 Mercula it's an interesting one. Okay what his development is over the next few months. I just saw mention someone mentioned lycelle
01:15:06 That's another interesting one. Like do you slot because lycelle's not a fourth line guy
01:15:10 Do you slot him in on the third line to try him out? Like I haven't heard great things from down there
01:15:15 But at some point you're gonna have to give this kid a chance at the nhl level. You're gonna have to so
01:15:20 I got I don't know when that's gonna be kutar is another one. Obviously anthony richard came up late in the season. He was good
01:15:28 So he's gonna be battling for minutes
01:15:31 But I I agree with you letting that fourth line be younger guys
01:15:35 Um trying to earn minutes
01:15:37 You know, I think lauco and beecher did that admirably this year. I think brazo certainly did
01:15:42 I think brazo someone you keep
01:15:45 I mean you have to um
01:15:47 But
01:15:49 You know in terms of like lycelle
01:15:51 They're gonna be you're gonna get a chance
01:15:54 Why don't they get a chance?
01:15:57 I know he dealt with injuries. I don't you know, I don't know the exact
01:16:00 Reason but I you know, he struggled at times this year
01:16:05 And that was I think the biggest thing struggled and had injuries and I mean his trade value's gone down so much
01:16:11 that's the other thing is that like
01:16:14 You really have nothing to lose bringing them up for 10 games on the third line to see what you get
01:16:18 I think they should do that. Like I think that should be a
01:16:22 a thing next year, but again, like
01:16:25 Um, someone mentioned it before like don't sign any more third liners
01:16:29 I agree like your thing this offseason should be
01:16:32 Top six like I want high I want hein back because hein is value, you know
01:16:37 Serves a good role, but if they don't bring them back i'm not gonna be crushed by it
01:16:40 To me the big thing is can you sign guys?
01:16:43 And or trade for guys who are going to help you in your top six?
01:16:46 That's that's the biggest thing to me
01:16:49 Like
01:16:52 That's gotta that's gotta be priority number one number one center
01:16:55 top six wing help
01:16:58 That's the biggest and that's the thing right now
01:17:00 so even if you do it the way we've done it and
01:17:02 Pick your player that plays on that left wing like beat your brazo and you want loco
01:17:08 Yeah, and i'll be fine with and i'd be fine with boquist like fast kind of that similar to
01:17:17 um
01:17:19 Heinen he can kill penalties. He can't produce at times. And so now you have frederick pochoir and geeky
01:17:25 Like your third and fourth line. That's pretty good. Now your second
01:17:30 Now now you would go second you had debrusk
01:17:32 marshand and coil
01:17:35 And zaka poshmark, you need a first line center
01:17:38 Yeah, you do that team's not bad that team's not winning no, it's not bad
01:17:45 That's why they don't they don't need to blow it up
01:17:47 They don't and like okay even like this, right?
01:17:51 You know they go into next season
01:17:55 with let's just say they find a way to get either an elias lindholm as their number one center or
01:18:01 They find someone else
01:18:04 As a number one center. I don't have a name
01:18:06 My brain is kind of fried. They just lost game six
01:18:08 We'll get into that deeper in the absence, but just a number one center, right?
01:18:11 And let's say they even maybe that, you know, they obviously they re-signed debrusk and then I don't know
01:18:16 Maybe you do add like a to foley for the third for the third line or something like that, right?
01:18:22 Let's just say you do that
01:18:24 If they got to this and I know again last year was the best team ever and uh, they hope i'm not cutting out. Um
01:18:31 Best team ever and couldn't get past the first round, but they get all the way to game six of the second round with this roster
01:18:40 And then you make it better next year. Like I know that sounds dumb but like
01:18:44 Yeah
01:18:47 And so I think there's it's not they're not out of the cup contention. They're not out of cup contention with that roster
01:18:52 favorites no
01:18:54 But they're so good
01:18:56 So I think the issue is
01:18:58 Zaka is better fit for playing left wing with pasture. He is a good playmaker
01:19:04 He can make plays for pasha the play that he made to brazil. He can do that. He's not
01:19:08 Suited to play center. I know he had one
01:19:11 I don't remember what series was it?
01:19:15 It was in I think it was in this one where he had he was like 12 and 6 in the dot
01:19:19 He doesn't have those many many nights. So if you slot him in to left wing now coil at number two center
01:19:26 This is what I would say
01:19:28 if coils a number three center your team is
01:19:32 Making a push for the stanley cup pretty close to it. Oh 100. Yes, right now at the second
01:19:38 He can get you into an eastern conference finals
01:19:41 I think
01:19:44 Now right like what you're looking for is
01:19:47 the way that we've constructed it we
01:19:49 evan marinovsky and carl corzini assistant general managers from
01:19:53 framingham, massachusetts
01:19:56 That'd be a kick-ass team
01:19:58 Yeah, you're you're a little bit better than you were this year, but you just got to find that first line
01:20:02 I I know but you just gotta like that like first line centers grow on trees
01:20:07 But you've got to find someone that's capable of playing at a high level. I don't think they've got to be elite
01:20:12 They've just got to be able to produce
01:20:15 Goodness got to be able to produce 65 70 plus points
01:20:21 Everyone's mentioning nico. He sure as someone um
01:20:25 I have to look at his current contract situation. He did have 67 points this year in 80 the year before
01:20:31 Obviously in new jersey everyone thinks it would be all mark
01:20:35 For he sure because new jersey needs a goalie in the worst way and I don't know
01:20:40 Maybe you could pull that off and if you could then like great
01:20:45 Great like i'm for it. I mean
01:20:47 I think the devil's probably before it too because you get a goalie out of it who's you know a year off winning a besna
01:20:53 so
01:20:55 You know if you want to do that
01:20:56 By all means like i'm not against that. It's just you know, is new jersey gonna make that trade?
01:21:01 It's always those
01:21:04 With the people that everybody wants but that don't happen
01:21:07 So he's got three years left on a deal that pays him seven and a quarter million dollars
01:21:14 Are you doing that?
01:21:16 Seven and a quarter. Yep per
01:21:19 Yeah. Yeah, I am
01:21:22 It'll be more than old mark. Obviously. Yeah, I think it wouldn't just be like all mark straight up
01:21:26 Yeah his last three years
01:21:29 60 80 67 points
01:21:31 Now he's a second option there now
01:21:34 with the emergence of jack hughes, but yeah
01:21:40 I mean, I guess i'd take it put them with pashvac. Give it a shot but
01:21:44 I mean again, I I think the biggest thing is you're not
01:21:49 Like you're not gonna get the the number one center the number two center in the league
01:21:55 Like you're not gonna get a top five
01:21:57 Center or top 10 center even like I think you do have to be okay with if it is lindholm just
01:22:02 Making it work or or nico. He sure just making it work
01:22:07 Is he is nico? He's your new jersey's captain
01:22:10 I want to say he is
01:22:12 I think he is like are they gonna say they're gonna trade their captain? That's that's
01:22:17 another big thing, um
01:22:19 So I don't yeah, calvin hobbs just mentioned that like are you gonna trade your captain? I don't I don't know
01:22:25 So again, I that's the tough part with these trades is we don't know quite yet like
01:22:30 Who the guys are that are gonna be available no, so yeah, I mean I think the big thing is
01:22:38 number one center
01:22:40 Potentially a top six wing, you know what else I wouldn't mind. I was telling ty anderson this the other day
01:22:46 I wouldn't mind a veteran left shot defenseman
01:22:49 to potentially pair with mcavoy because like and and and low rye should be
01:22:55 McAvoy's guy next year. It should be you know, low rye mcavoy lindholm carlo for sure
01:22:59 um
01:23:01 And then you have peak on the right side on that third pairing
01:23:04 but ideally watherspoon is your seventh defense waterspoon is
01:23:08 Probably I don't know if waterspoon is going to be your third pair, but if you have the money
01:23:13 you know, we'll see what low rye does over the course of the regular season and he could evolve into that but like
01:23:19 I don't know. I was looking through like defense like a brendan dillon
01:23:22 a tough grizzled kind of you know
01:23:25 two-way left shot defenseman who's been through a lot of runs and stuff like
01:23:31 To put with mcavoy. I don't know I wouldn't be against it
01:23:34 But we'll see I mean this is immediate reaction
01:23:37 So like I I think that could change if you can figure and this is what I and I think I don't remember what game
01:23:43 it is
01:23:46 Um
01:23:49 Their breakout strategy their zone exits
01:23:52 It wasn't what they had done all year and this is my point so this is gonna be my point about lindholm
01:24:01 And lindholm and mcavoy consistently make or through the regular season consistently made the slip play to the middle of the rank
01:24:08 And were able to effectively move out of the zone now
01:24:13 You know without going in depth
01:24:17 on the four checks of teams they faced
01:24:21 Why the strategy was just to chip it up the glass and you even looked at tonight
01:24:25 They chipped it up the glass and turn it over. This is a long-winded way of saying your defense
01:24:30 on paper is not in bad spot like
01:24:33 mcavoy and lower ride lindholm and carlo
01:24:37 You have peak and who's your sixth?
01:24:42 That's the thing is it is it watherspoon because forbert's of the ufa shattenkirk's the ufa I would assume both those guys are gone. Yeah
01:24:50 grizzly's gone
01:24:53 Sorry everybody
01:24:55 But that's what's gonna happen. Yeah
01:24:57 I would assume
01:24:59 So grizzly's probably gone. So that's where like you could get a better. I saw someone say dylan stinks
01:25:05 I don't know dylan well enough to tell you if he's amazing or not
01:25:09 But that's the kind of guy that you want I would think veteran kind of left shot player
01:25:14 Like I well someone said wow, this was a good bottom pairing backup defense, but I agree
01:25:19 I agree. We have some sound actually of paul marise
01:25:24 And I want to take it to uh, I want to take it to paul marise
01:25:27 Is it gonna let's see
01:25:34 It's not adding
01:25:39 Sorry guys
01:25:40 We'll see if amit adds it if amit adds it it'll work
01:25:43 Yes, jacob middleton would be perfect with mcavoy. Oh my god. Jacob middleton would be awesome on the spruance team
01:25:49 That's like the kind of guy I think you want in the playoffs
01:25:53 Um, yes, what is it? What is it carl? You know what they should do?
01:25:56 What they should trade for santo to san jose for
01:26:03 Henry thrun let's go
01:26:08 Give me henry thrun all day long
01:26:12 Yes, I could get behind that. Yeah. Do you want to explain why do you want to explain the reason why?
01:26:18 Uh henry henry thrun, uh played at st. Mark's
01:26:22 I was I was fortunate to have coached him and he played he was a four-year player
01:26:27 at harvard and then played
01:26:30 whatever this year 64 games for san jose, so
01:26:33 Very proud of him and would have loved to have him back in boston
01:26:37 And to include sean farrell, yes, I think
01:26:41 I think any st. Mark's kind of nhl. Yeah, boston bruin for sure. I'm for it. I'm for it
01:26:48 I'm in favor of it get all the prep guys on one team just like new england prep team
01:26:53 Yep, you keep grizzly because belmont hill and go get mark waltz and michael callahan up
01:26:57 exactly exactly
01:27:00 um
01:27:02 I don't know if this sound is gonna load and I don't wanna keep pushing it. Um
01:27:07 Do you have any other thoughts that we haven't touched on from this game?
01:27:11 Well, I mean you did take over for this off season that you want to get off your chest
01:27:17 Oh, yeah, I want to get off your chest. Can they can they work on the too many men on the ice over the summer?
01:27:23 No, they cannot that's impossible, but they almost had another tonight, by the way
01:27:28 They almost had another too many men that did not get called. I just
01:27:32 Now I know
01:27:35 Coaching at a look at prep hockey
01:27:40 I did I 100% did not see seven too many men on the ice this year did not hard to do
01:27:47 They do diego. They do need to change game. They need to play the change game more often for the boston brunettes
01:27:53 I agree
01:27:55 Um, we did break a record by the way tonight seven. Hey
01:27:59 It's you know how we talk about remembering the shifts. We'll always remember the too many men's
01:28:04 This was the playoff the postseason run of the too many men. There's nothing wrong with that. It was perfect
01:28:09 It was great. It was so great. No, I think going into the off season
01:28:13 You need to address your number one center. Oh, no take number one thing is what's your identity?
01:28:19 Right, like what kind of team do you want to be and then that will make?
01:28:23 The decision of what type of team you want to be right? Like you can't
01:28:27 If you just go outside and players because they have a pedigree
01:28:31 And and they don't fit your system. That's not going to work
01:28:35 Really?
01:28:36 And if you go back and you truly look at
01:28:39 Their game plan for last year. That's what kind of it looks like
01:28:43 when you
01:28:44 See it come to fruition
01:28:46 But you went out and signed a bunch of
01:28:48 Slower
01:28:51 bottom six type players and then asked them to be
01:28:55 Then you ask them to play a possession game that they weren't capable of doing and now
01:29:02 overachieved all year and so kudos to the players kudos to
01:29:07 um
01:29:10 Jim montgomery and that coaching staff. They got that team to play above their head
01:29:14 um, but when it came time to to
01:29:17 to
01:29:18 Play that style of game in the playoff when it got tighter was really hard for them
01:29:22 And so what's your identity you need a number one center?
01:29:26 And you got a trade all mark those are kind of the three things
01:29:30 Heading into the off season that i'm concerned about and if you can get get a second round pick here somehow
01:29:38 Some way a first round pick even
01:29:40 You've got nothing
01:29:43 right
01:29:45 You're talking to mccobbard. Yeah, you're talking about you're talking about a partner for andrew peak and there there should be guys lining up
01:29:53 To to play that position and you don't have that in providence. There's no one that you can think of
01:30:00 That would step up and play in that spot
01:30:03 I have to get diver on for that
01:30:07 That's like dimmer's wheelhouse. We'll ask him tomorrow at the mazah festival
01:30:10 Well, you just you haven't seen did you see anyone get called up to play in that spot? No
01:30:15 Wotherspoon was the one while this one was the one low rye and low rye low rye was the other
01:30:21 Unless i'm forgetting someone but I don't think I am
01:30:24 I think it was us too. There's no one after like your next guys up are guys that have been around the american league for a while
01:30:30 mitchell
01:30:32 Uh, riley walsh regular
01:30:34 Regular, I don't know
01:30:36 Michael callahan
01:30:40 Who great rocks very latin fox?
01:30:42 Yes, great player. I'm sorry latin kid. I forgot about that latin
01:30:48 great player
01:30:50 Ah great to me
01:30:52 I think you're spot on with the identity part
01:30:54 You got to figure out you're gonna be shot volume. You're gonna be high danger
01:30:57 If you're gonna be high danger, you have to be you have to talent and to me like I just think
01:31:04 You saw it in this series
01:31:06 You know, obviously could they have won? Yes, they could have finished chances and all that stuff
01:31:10 But the talent wasn't up to it and that gets fixed with a number one center
01:31:15 And I also think a top six wing I would love to see them do it
01:31:20 I would love to see them do it. I you know
01:31:22 So how do you manufacture your one true asset that you would be willing to get rid of which is all mark?
01:31:28 How can you how can you manufacture a first or really good second line center out of him?
01:31:33 For a first second line center, I think it's probably a package deal. I would assume i'm telling I would assume
01:31:40 Yeah, okay, but you're you're gonna say dubois
01:31:43 I'm just saying i'm willing to i'm willing to try it for a for a guy that's
01:31:49 for
01:31:51 for
01:31:52 A guy that's been on his fourth team now or whatever. That would be at some point. It's got a
01:31:57 It's right like that. We talked about self-awareness that self-awareness at the end of the day. All right, it's me
01:32:03 Right like now maybe that never comes with him
01:32:06 Like oh, it's everyone else but at some point you got to look inward and and so the talent's there
01:32:12 I don't think anyone denies the talent, right?
01:32:14 And so at some point
01:32:18 As you grow and mature. He's a kid that played in the league at the age of 18
01:32:21 Fifth overall pick with columbus the sixth overall pick it's easy
01:32:26 I get what I want now
01:32:28 You're right like there are conversations about being bought out
01:32:32 Six months after one year. Yeah, six months after you got an eight for eight
01:32:37 so there's got to be people in his life talking to him saying hey
01:32:42 Like what do you want to make yourself if the 64 million's enough and you know, you're guaranteed that then
01:32:48 That's something the bruins gonna look but I think they should look into it
01:32:52 because i'm going to assume that la is a place that he would go to I would assume that new jersey's probably a place that
01:32:57 you'd go to as well something but
01:32:59 um
01:33:01 You need this. I feel like this market would eat him alive
01:33:03 What's that? I feel like this market. I think this market would eat him alive
01:33:07 And I I don't know the guy personally obviously, I don't know everything. I don't know everything about him. But like
01:33:13 I I just
01:33:16 I don't know. I I again. It's not a bad idea. Like i'm not like oh, that's so stupid. It's fine. I just
01:33:22 I don't know to me
01:33:24 The old trade g walker I would love to be on this post game after uh, uh
01:33:31 Pia lube du bois just ghosted up and doesn't play. It doesn't even he plays like what was the shift where uh,
01:33:38 Uh, tortorella just goes after him. He just kind of skates. Oh, yeah
01:33:43 Or like a debris could you walk and then insert someone else line?
01:33:48 Like imagine that like that line goes like minus four one game just like the sky is falling
01:33:53 That'd be that'd be black. That'd be great for content. I'll admit it and be fun. Um
01:33:57 I
01:34:00 You're trading oh mark, I I think I want to pick unless again unless there is a good
01:34:06 Package to be had for a number one center if someone's willing to give you a number one center
01:34:11 for lena solmark to get a number one goalie then sure but
01:34:17 I think the more realistic thing is get a first round pick
01:34:20 I think and I think that that is the move pick in the first round. That'd be cool
01:34:26 Get a get a you know top prospect
01:34:29 And whatever, you know got a center get a defenseman. I don't care but
01:34:33 I go with that for that and then to me like to improve on the wing
01:34:39 If they do do more than debris if they did say hey
01:34:42 If they did say hey, we're gonna go sign it to foley or they want to shoot big and go for stamkos
01:34:47 Which I would assume would be around like four times
01:34:50 28
01:34:52 or
01:34:53 30 or whatever
01:34:55 That's gonna be free agency wing is free agency center is your best option whether that's a trade or free agency
01:35:02 I don't know what trade would come up for this. I know we discussed it earlier in the show
01:35:06 but
01:35:08 Yeah to me you got to improve up front got to be better offensively got to improve offensively
01:35:12 and um
01:35:14 Yeah, I think they don't need to they don't need to blow it up
01:35:17 And remember this was a team in transition this year year one without birch run and cretche
01:35:21 They get to game six in the second round
01:35:24 i'm, not you know, not saying it's amazing, but
01:35:27 They beat expectations they beat beginning of the year expectations. Yeah, and I think that's the thing like they uh
01:35:34 overachieved during the regular season
01:35:38 um
01:35:40 Played hard against florida like oh
01:35:42 Gave themselves an opportunity to win the series
01:35:44 but the better team won and
01:35:47 It'd be interesting to see how florida does in the next series against
01:35:50 Uh new york, so that'll be I think that'll be a good good physical series. It'll be fun to watch
01:35:56 Well, this is it
01:35:58 The last postgame show. All right damn shame, but we'll have to get you on
01:36:03 Whether it's in the off season, I know we're both so we're both so busy during the year
01:36:08 But yeah, you can catch me you can catch me in between classes sometimes I watch your live show
01:36:15 That's right. You'll text me like are you live right now? And i'm like no it's it's automated
01:36:19 But it plays us live on twitter. This is really loud. This is well, you just send me a text and i'll get on and
01:36:25 Start start talking nonsense, but somehow next year we've got to figure out a live show at la cantina
01:36:32 That would rock for for a road game. I think that would be
01:36:35 That'd be peak. That would be really good. That would be awesome. But it is this is how it ends, but it was good
01:36:42 Six and a third thanks for continuing to uh, follow us
01:36:47 They were awesome
01:36:51 Big fan of six and a third. Um
01:36:53 All the people saying that the bruin should hire you. I think you've worked your way into being a front office candidate
01:36:58 So here you go. I'm gonna go i'm gonna go from prize pick clns right to
01:37:04 A front office somewhere in the national hockey league. You are you are you someone actually brought up an interesting thing?
01:37:10 July 1st carl and evan free agency day. That's actually if we wanted to if we're around on the first of july for free agency
01:37:16 It may not be a bad live stream
01:37:18 I'll just be getting back from florida. Let's do it
01:37:22 There you go. All right, we'll do that. We'll pencil that in
01:37:26 Uh, but anyways, we've presented by game time
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01:37:35 Go use that promo code clns to get up to a hundred dollars match on the first deposit carl
01:37:39 This has been a blast. I'm glad we got to do two rounds wish could have had a little bit more but
01:37:44 This is how it ends
01:37:46 Um, yes when brickley retires is carl the top choice. I think carl has moved his way into it. I think yeah
01:37:50 I have a face
01:37:54 Face and hair for radio. So no, I think uh,
01:37:56 I don't think i'm going anywhere near tv
01:37:59 You could bring the whiteboard on tv. They could cut to you
01:38:02 With it just drawn up plays. I think people love that i'll do that. Yes, that'll get done
01:38:08 Well, anyways, that's it. Well, thanks. Yeah
01:38:12 But thank you. First of all, thanks. Thanks to everybody for watching. We really appreciate the support. It's been awesome. Um,
01:38:19 So that's it
01:38:21 We'll see you soon
01:38:22 Bruins lose
01:38:24 Thank you for such a great year. We'll see you
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