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00:00 Asalam o alikum, viewers. Welcome to the program.

00:03 A few minutes ago, you saw that a very sad incident took place in the National Assembly.

00:09 Tariq Bashir Cheema is an old politician. He has been a member of the National Assembly more than once.

00:15 He had a heated argument with Azhar Taj Gul, the Pakistani Minister of Justice and Sunni Council.

00:23 The news that we are getting is that he went to his seat and gave a lot of harsh remarks.

00:32 The people there say that a lot of non-parliamentary language was used.

00:38 And after that, a lot of fighting started.

00:42 Tariq Bashir Cheema left.

00:44 After that, the whole matter went to the chamber of the Speaker of the National Assembly.

00:49 The argument took place. It is a good thing that Tariq Bashir Cheema has apologized.

00:55 He has taken back his words.

00:57 But still, this should not happen.

01:00 Politicians should be encouraged, especially women politicians who are coming into politics.

01:06 And people like Azhar Taj Gul, who come after fighting elections.

01:10 Fighting elections in a powerful way from an area like Andhera Ghazi and winning elections is not a small thing.

01:17 Moving on to the next story, today was a big day.

01:21 It was a big day because after 9 months, a perception was made that Bani PTI will be shown.

01:31 The live stream will be shown to the Supreme Court, which is the first court.

01:35 The bench is headed by Chief Justice Qazi Faiz Shah.

01:39 The case is being handled in the court, where the changes made in the law are being handled.

01:47 So, there was a lot of excitement.

01:50 I was watching that the Supreme Court's YouTube channel, because the live stream is done there, was around 16,000.

01:58 And today, when the news came that it is possible that it will come, it has gone above 75,000.

02:06 The subscription of the Supreme Court's YouTube channel.

02:11 Raya Muslim is with us.

02:13 Hassan Yubi was present in the court today.

02:16 So, tell us, Raya Sahib, how was the atmosphere there today?

02:20 I was seeing a lot of excitement on social media.

02:24 Especially the Pakistani expatriates were taking a lot of interest and they wanted to see what was happening.

02:32 And then some pictures have gone up, we will talk about that too.

02:35 First, tell us what was the atmosphere?

02:37 Sir, because after a long time, it was expected that Bani Chairman PTI will be seen today.

02:43 And that happened when the hearing started.

02:46 So, I sent the video link, he was present at the hearing.

02:49 And if we talk about the court, then the court was filled with so much excitement after a long time.

02:56 The reason for this was that all the leadership of PTI was present there.

03:00 The people of their legal team were present there.

03:03 Then when journalists are also involved in such cases, they come there in large numbers.

03:08 And a different kind of atmosphere was visible.

03:11 Recently, we heard quite a few big cases in the Supreme Court of Pakistan, including elections.

03:15 This was probably the arrival of Bani Chairman PTI.

03:19 Today, this case was looking completely different.

03:23 The proceedings of Code No. 1 are usually live these days.

03:27 So, is there a special reason that it was not done today?

03:31 What is the procedure?

03:33 Does the bench decide or does the Chief Justice decide?

03:35 Does the registrar decide?

03:36 Who decides whether this case will go live or not?

03:42 Look, it was expected that this case would be published directly.

03:48 The reason for this is that when the last hearing of this case was held on Tuesday,

03:52 it was published directly at that time.

03:55 Some of the leaders of PTI were present in the Court of Appeal.

03:58 When we spoke to them about this case before the hearing, they also said that

04:01 this case was not going to be published directly.

04:06 There are many reasons for this.

04:08 When we spoke to them, they said that they will keep this case in front of the bench.

04:13 But after the hearing, the Advocate General KP took up this case and said that

04:18 this case is not going to be published directly.

04:20 At this point, the Chief Justice told them to go and sit down.

04:24 Maybe this is a way to tell that the legal team of PTI and the Advocate General KP

04:30 can issue a written request for this case.

04:33 However, the final decision in this regard will be of the bench hearing.

04:40 Because the date has been in office.

04:42 The Chief Justice is not present here next week.

04:45 Some other judges will not be present.

04:48 So, this hearing is possible after 10-12 days.

04:52 When the Chief Justice will make his argument, it will be live.

04:55 First of all, the news that you broke today,

04:57 that you told about the colour of the PTI shirt,

05:00 and then you said that two buttons were open.

05:03 I did not say the colour, I said the button.

05:04 You said the button?

05:05 I said the button.

05:06 The colour was open and the buttons were open.

05:11 I said that maybe they were given a gesture in respect of the court.

05:14 Did you lock them in jail or what did you do?

05:17 It could be hot.

05:18 We did not know that there was a fan and AC.

05:21 But, I went to the court today.

05:24 I knew that.

05:25 I told you 100% that the live broadcast cannot be done.

05:30 So, when they say, we will know.

05:32 The case is over.

05:34 The broadcast of the case has not been done.

05:35 It is obvious that whether they say or not,

05:37 you can see it and the telecast is being done on YouTube.

05:40 I also said that the decision is of the Supreme Court.

05:43 This is not the decision of the Chief Justice.

05:45 This is the decision of this bench.

05:47 The bench means the bench of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

05:49 This is the bench number one.

05:51 Basically, this was a special bench.

05:53 Now, I went there because I wanted to see

05:56 how the Banish Chairman had brought Japan and Germany to the border.

06:03 Will we see a glimpse of this kind of capability today,

06:06 the way they will do their case review?

06:08 Because, earlier they used to say that

06:10 I need a lawyer for the questions of the map.

06:15 Now, by removing such a big lawyer,

06:17 Khawaja Harris has a name.

06:19 That is, the top lawyer of Pakistan,

06:22 he is counted among them.

06:24 All the Chief Justice, all the judges of the Supreme Court,

06:26 the judges of the High Court, give him a lot of respect.

06:28 So, by removing him, a person says that I will argue my case myself.

06:32 Tell us the body language.

06:34 You are afraid of the body language.

06:36 There was disappointment on the face.

06:38 There was a lot of disappointment.

06:40 There were a lot of people.

06:41 Because of that, one has to sit for three hours.

06:45 Sit quietly.

06:47 Otherwise, what will you do sitting in jail?

06:49 You know, you are a regular in the Supreme Court when such cases happen.

06:57 Since our brother Ravi has been going, we have stopped going.

06:59 You are also seen together sometimes.

07:02 And you know, when the discussion goes on for a long time,

07:04 the son-in-law also comes there.

07:06 And we have seen this somewhere.

07:08 Mr. Chaudhary, what was your reaction today?

07:10 Because when that picture came, I will ask Mohsin how that picture came out.

07:14 Because it was just a picture.

07:16 What happened to come?

07:17 Just on social media.

07:18 After that, we saw that picture everywhere.

07:21 In Pakistan, all these social media websites,

07:24 there are big newspapers.

07:26 What is Don in it?

07:27 What is Jung?

07:28 Their websites.

07:29 Obviously, it attracts so much traffic.

07:32 That is such a beautiful picture.

07:33 I am surprised.

07:34 Mr. Vijay, what is the masterpiece of nature?

07:37 No, what to do now?

07:40 That is why, Mr. Khawer, Mr. Goman,

07:42 it is not good to get entangled with each other.

07:45 No, you are commenting.

07:47 You are definitely commenting.

07:48 No, what do you mean?

07:50 The whole world is saying that they were sitting in a hurry.

07:53 They found out in a secret way that they were going to die.

07:59 They were going to fall.

08:01 They were coming easily.

08:03 The color was also worrying.

08:05 They were coming easily.

08:07 This is happening.

08:08 This is happening.

08:09 This is happening.

08:10 This is happening.

08:11 They were looking at Bajwa Sahib.

08:13 The one who got India in the nose.

08:16 Imran Khan and Bajwa.

08:19 They were seeing them falling.

08:21 Stop it.

08:22 That is, he taught them that they will remember till the end.

08:27 And you are saying that they were disappointed.

08:29 This happened.

08:31 God forbid.

08:32 Number one.

08:33 And the whole world thinks that he has won.

08:36 And in many cases,

08:38 even before, in many courts,

08:40 they have argued that this is not the first.

08:42 That is, the one who is from Oxford,

08:44 he does not know anything.

08:46 And the two of us,

08:47 that is, the one who is pure and pure,

08:49 and the one who reads the charts,

08:50 we know a lot.

08:51 What can I say?

08:52 And viewers, the thing that is often said,

08:54 that code is there,

08:55 I had also heard that.

08:56 Now, obviously, you can hear the clarification.

08:58 But the thing is that the talk of the border,

09:00 Germany and Japan,

09:02 was basically a talk of development in the border areas.

09:05 After World War.

09:06 Anyway, this picture that came out,

09:08 this is a very unfortunate thing,

09:10 to get a picture.

09:11 The picture is there, obviously,

09:12 they were present there.

09:14 So, I have to ask a question first.

09:16 So, does that mean that you do not have the permission to take a cell phone?

09:20 Or in the house, sorry,

09:22 in the room number one,

09:25 no one had a phone.

09:26 There are so many cameras everywhere.

09:28 Anyone can take a picture.

09:29 Look, there are some SOPs to go to any courtroom of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

09:33 Not everyone can take a mobile phone there.

09:36 Even the people of the media,

09:38 the people who do regular reporting,

09:40 they keep the phone outside.

09:42 And after that, they go inside.

09:44 Then when they have to report something,

09:45 they come out from inside.

09:46 Then they get the news written in their offices.

09:49 But there are some people who take their phones with them.

09:52 Those people who have a lawyer,

09:54 who have law clerks,

09:55 who have their own Supreme Court of Pakistan.

09:58 When this picture went viral,

10:01 there was a discussion that I was outside the courtroom.

10:06 There we saw that the police officers,

10:08 who are permanently appointed in the Supreme Court of Pakistan,

10:11 they started investigating this matter immediately.

10:14 CCTV cameras were taken.

10:16 And the means to say that this picture,

10:19 because this is not one picture,

10:20 more than one picture has come out.

10:22 So one picture is the one that came out first,

10:24 it is being said that he is a law clerk.

10:27 Because law clerk means that he is a part of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

10:30 He is the judge's intern.

10:32 This is a big atomic secret.

10:34 No, no, no, it's not a big deal that the picture came out.

10:36 I am saying that the picture is so beautiful.

10:39 I mean, you can see it.

10:41 I am saying that you like this idea.

10:43 You have made it big.

10:45 It's good that the picture came out.

10:47 Actually, the whole world is saying on social media.

10:49 I am talking about social media.

10:51 People are seeing that this corruption and corrupt practice,

10:54 when he is involved, when he is in court,

10:56 he is present in your jail.

10:58 How happy he is.

11:00 Now that case is left.

11:03 And he is still present.

11:07 His conviction is still present.

11:09 His conviction is not over yet.

11:11 Suspension of sentence means bail.

11:13 The punishment is still pending.

11:15 Let's move on to the next story.

11:16 A big development has taken place.

11:18 The judges of the High Court have written a letter.

11:21 In return for that letter,

11:23 you know, when the whole matter was going on,

11:26 Faisal Wada Sahib came to our program yesterday.

11:28 He had written a letter.

11:30 "Mr. Minoo, tell me,

11:32 how did the green card holder, Babar Sitar Sahib, become a judge?

11:37 Why didn't he tell us that if there is dual sharia,

11:40 then it was for his children, was it necessary or not?"

11:42 He had written that letter.

11:44 He also held a press conference the other day.

11:46 Now, the Supreme Court has taken a sumoto notice on it.

11:49 We will know from Raja Mohsen.

11:51 But before that, let me tell you this.

11:53 Article 63(c) of the constitution is very clear.

11:57 It is necessary for a member of the National Assembly

12:01 that he is not dual national.

12:05 Or he has not taken the sharia of any country

12:08 where you have to leave the sharia of your country.

12:11 So, being a citizen of Pakistan

12:13 and not taking the passport or sharia of any other country is necessary for him.

12:17 Along with this, the conditions of the judges of the High Court are very clear.

12:25 They should have 10 years of experience.

12:28 They should have practice in the High Court.

12:31 And the rest, their qualifications, professional,

12:34 they should have a blameless career.

12:37 All that happened.

12:38 Now, when Wada Sahab asked this question and gave an answer to it,

12:43 in the answer, the Islamabad High Court in writing said that,

12:47 "This matter was discussed in the Supreme Judicial Council."

12:51 And the Chief Justice of Islamabad at that time, Atar Malala, said that,

12:56 "Yes, yes, yes, he has already said this."

12:58 And the Islamabad High Court also said that

13:00 there is no restriction on dual national,

13:03 to be a member of the judiciary of Pakistan.

13:07 And even today we saw many press conferences.

13:09 This Faisal Wada Sahab's press conference,

13:11 there was a notice of a slow-motion.

13:13 What is the reason for that? What is the news in that?

13:16 But yes, when you see that the Naif Tarameem case,

13:18 in which Bani Chairman was presented,

13:20 during its hearing, Justice Atar Malala Sahab,

13:22 without taking the name from this reference,

13:24 but the content, that is, his indication was towards Faisal Wada Sahab's press conference.

13:28 We are being told that we will make the turbans football.

13:32 Those who say this are actually exposing themselves.

13:36 Atar Malala Sahab, are you threatening us with your proxies?

13:42 Atar Malala Sahab, in response,

13:44 Attorney General Sahab said that this is happening,

13:46 and this should not happen.

13:48 Now see, Attorney General Sahab's answer,

13:50 has summed up the whole matter,

13:53 after reading Attorney General Sahab's answer.

13:55 He is saying that this is not happening.

13:58 On one hand, Faisal Wada Sahab's entire press conference was held yesterday,

14:01 and Attorney General Sahab is saying in the court today that this is not happening.

14:04 On the other hand, a judge of the Supreme Court of Pakistan is saying something,

14:07 Attorney General Sahab is saying that this is not happening.

14:09 High Court judges are writing letters and saying that this is the court's proceedings,

14:12 in fact, the proceedings have started.

14:14 Actually, has it been explained in the Supreme Court notice,

14:16 that this was taken from this reference, or what is in it?

14:18 See, till now, this is the case, that this was taken from the press conference,

14:20 and after this, all its content will be brought from the camera,

14:23 and then it will be seen, and then its full investigation.

14:25 Listen to me, what wrong has Faisal Wada Sahab done?

14:28 He has asked questions.

14:30 He has asked questions, what else has he done?

14:32 If you ask questions, you will understand.

14:34 The matter is very simple,

14:36 he wrote a letter to the judges,

14:39 he asked questions,

14:41 what has he investigated in the court?

14:43 Hassan, you please talk.

14:45 Your opinion is a method of the judges.

14:48 So, this is, so and so,

14:50 from yesterday, this was being said that it should be done,

14:52 because the press conference was being held with Tatar,

14:54 that, "Sir, what has happened?"

14:56 But my opinion is the same, I have written on it,

14:58 that, God forbid, make a law,

15:00 that no lawyer with a dual-legality,

15:03 cannot become a judge of Pakistan.

15:05 The matter will end.

15:07 Yes, Judge Sahab.

15:09 There was no restriction till now.

15:11 There was no restriction till now, absolutely not.

15:13 And I have told you yesterday,

15:15 I am saying it today, I am saying it even now,

15:17 that first, you, as a court,

15:19 please do not attack the court.

15:23 This is not a channel,

15:25 and this is not our policy.

15:28 Number two,

15:30 if you hold press conferences against judges,

15:35 then their greetings will be malignant.

15:38 So, today, they have taken a so-called motto,

15:40 Chief Justice of Pakistan,

15:42 on insistence of judges,

15:44 that is, without any justification, it did not happen.

15:47 So, now, these people who were taking out cars,

15:50 and attacking the judges,

15:53 now, they will have to prove

15:58 the allegations they have been making,

16:03 and have to answer,

16:05 that we hold them to attack judges.

16:07 Tomorrow, the hearing of Sumoto case will take place.

16:10 It is tomorrow morning.

16:11 What is the time?

16:12 It is morning time.

16:13 The time will start at 2.30.

16:14 But, viewers, this is an airway channel,

16:16 this is our program,

16:17 the policy editorial of our channel has always been that

16:20 respect for judges and respect for the judiciary is necessary.

16:23 If someone is in a lot of pain,

16:26 if someone is in a lot of pain,

16:27 under Article 209,

16:28 the Supreme Judicial Council is present,

16:30 if you request,

16:31 then you have to complain against any judge.

16:33 This will not be beneficial if you hold press conferences.

16:36 Viewers, let's take a break.

16:37 After the break, we will tell you,

16:38 that today, in Salamabad High Court,

16:39 a few important cases are going on.

16:41 What developments have taken place there?

16:42 Stay with us.

16:43 Welcome back.

16:44 Viewers,

16:45 the mix of fire and water,

16:46 we talked about it yesterday,

16:47 it is happening,

16:48 and it is visible that it is happening.

16:50 And when we talk about the mix of fire and water in Pakistan's politics,

16:53 on one hand, Bani PTI is there,

16:56 and on the other hand,

16:57 the JIOF's Ruh-e-Rawan,

16:59 Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,

17:01 they are coming closer to each other,

17:03 their proximity is increasing.

17:05 And the political views,

17:06 and the current political situation,

17:08 keeping them in view,

17:09 and we are seeing a lot of unity between them.

17:13 Now, why is this happening?

17:15 Earlier, when Maulana Sahib spoke,

17:17 he was asked,

17:18 "I don't know what views you remember,

17:21 so Bani PTI, what was their response to that?"

17:24 Listen.

17:25 The most recent,

17:26 in the last 7-8 years,

17:27 the allegations that were made by you,

17:29 that this is a Jewish lobby.

17:30 So when these political views will end,

17:32 how will you take them from a Jewish lobby to a Muslim lobby again?

17:36 Keep one thing in mind,

17:37 if we have called someone an English agent in the politics of extremism,

17:41 or we have called someone an American agent on the international level,

17:44 then this is a title.

17:46 This is a title.

17:47 This is not a car.

17:48 So we are taking these things from them politically.

17:52 And when their people have come today,

17:54 if these people had come 12 years ago,

17:56 then I would have had the same attitude.

17:59 And if they have come today,

18:00 then I will have the same attitude.

18:02 Okay, Hassan,

18:03 I was listening to a few conditions in yesterday's press conference,

18:06 Maulana Sahib was saying that

18:07 there should be an election immediately,

18:09 consider it a gesture of respect.

18:10 And the rest is that

18:11 there should be an election without the interference of the establishment.

18:15 And the politicians should move forward together.

18:17 And at this time,

18:18 the only solution in the country,

18:19 if you want political stability,

18:21 then there are new, fresh elections.

18:23 And he has said that we are talking about ideas.

18:27 And if our ideas are met with the PTI,

18:29 then what is wrong in that?

18:31 Will Tehreek-e-Insaf demand elections again?

18:34 The question is,

18:35 will we be in agreement with Maulana?

18:37 Look, Maulana Fazl-e-Rehman is very intelligent,

18:39 very capable,

18:40 and I like Maulana Fazl-e-Rehman a lot.

18:42 He is a politician.

18:44 One thing about Maulana Sahib is that

18:46 he has done something very special,

18:48 that he has backed PTI.

18:51 If we look at the numbers in the assembly,

18:54 then PTI has the government of the province,

18:57 and the National Assembly and Senate

18:59 have a lot of strength in the competition against Maulana.

19:01 But if something,

19:02 if an initiative against the government is going on,

19:04 then who will lead?

19:06 That Maulana Fazl-e-Rehman will do.

19:08 And secondly, PTI has gone to Maulana.

19:11 So for Maulana, there is a win-win in this.

19:13 Will PTI accept these things

19:15 on their conditions and terms?

19:19 Will it accept this kind of a political debate?

19:22 Will it be willing to resign from the assembly?

19:25 In case,

19:26 or will it accept the new elections again?

19:29 So these are a lot of questions

19:31 whose answer will be found in the coming days.

19:33 But you are correcting the point,

19:35 that there is a kind of ice between the two political parties.

19:41 And the kind of wrong words

19:43 that Maulana Fazl-e-Rehman used,

19:46 those people should be ashamed of it.

19:49 And the way he himself went,

19:51 it's a good thing.

19:53 Maulana Fazl-e-Rehman is a big politician.

19:55 He is the son of a big politician.

19:57 He is a religious scholar.

19:59 And he is a good politician.

20:01 He is a reasonable man.

20:02 So if he has gone to him,

20:03 he has embraced him.

20:04 It's a good thing.

20:05 The politics should end.

20:06 Absolutely.

20:07 Hassan is right.

20:08 What he was saying,

20:09 that politics is full of problems.

20:11 People are starving.

20:12 And there are a lot of problems.

20:14 And all across,

20:15 our politicians have been giving each other a lot of money.

20:17 Not particularly any political party.

20:19 Chaudhary Ghulam Singh,

20:20 the question that has been raised,

20:23 that will Pakistan get ready for the new elections?

20:26 What I have said,

20:27 if there is a broader consensus

20:29 with all the political parties,

20:31 that all the political parties get a chance,

20:34 free and fair,

20:36 and the targets of the targets that were set,

20:39 the leaders come out.

20:41 If there is such an environment,

20:43 then all the political parties will have to be a part of it.

20:47 So the question is,

20:48 is it possible that

20:50 a new election is set in time

20:53 and a new election is going to be held?

20:56 Everyone should test themselves in the field.

20:59 What they are saying,

21:01 whatever they are doing with the PTI people,

21:04 I don't want to ruin their work by targeting them.

21:08 What they are saying is,

21:10 we just have to do this much,

21:11 that the result that is confirmed by 45,

21:13 which is with all the candidates,

21:15 we have to declare it in 47, 48, 49, period.

21:20 Then a new election will be held,

21:22 when a new government will be formed.

21:24 So the second thing about Khan Sahib and Fazlur Rahman Sahib,

21:29 I will definitely say that

21:31 Fazlur Rahman has made a decision

21:33 that he will not go with the PDM,

21:36 that is, with the Noon and PPP party.

21:39 They have separated the ways.

21:41 They will stand with the PTI and other opposing parties as much as possible.

21:46 And number three,

21:47 the situation that I talked about one day,

21:50 you probably ignored it.

21:53 So there are many reasons

21:55 that our own disloyalty brought us together.

22:01 So now they have come together to some extent.

22:05 Although neither Fazlur Rahman Sahib has the compulsion of the PTI,

22:09 nor does the PTI need any strength.

22:14 But when people come together,

22:16 a message comes from it that the government is in trouble.

22:20 Viewers, it is important that political stability comes in Pakistan.

22:24 And it is a very good thing that Maulana Sahib was first a part of the PDM,

22:27 now he is a part of the opposition union.

22:29 So the conversation is moving forward.

22:31 And I also talked about this earlier,

22:33 that all political parties are present in the current parliament.

22:36 And the political crisis is not the political parties.

22:40 Viewers, you know the next story,

22:42 the crisis of wheat in Pakistan,

22:44 as it is present.

22:47 Especially in Punjab,

22:49 there is no purchase of wheat.

22:52 And the other day,

22:54 Respected Bilawal Buttoz Dardari Sahib,

22:56 on the floor of the National Assembly,

22:59 talked in detail about this issue.

23:01 He said, don't do this injustice.

23:03 If you don't give money now,

23:05 if you don't buy wheat from the farmer,

23:07 how will he plant wheat in the future?

23:09 Listen to what Bilawal Buttoz Dardari Sahib said.

23:11 At this time, Mr. Speaker,

23:13 the farmers of Pakistan are protesting.

23:16 The farmers have been killed economically.

23:19 The economic killing that is going on at the moment,

23:22 the House demands accountability.

23:27 The interim government has decided

23:31 to spend dollars from the outside,

23:35 to give the tax money of the people of Pakistan

23:39 to the farmers of other countries,

23:43 and to import wheat.

23:47 We request the government of Pakistan

23:51 to stop playing committee to committee.

23:54 We will have to take action today, not tomorrow.

23:57 Not only is the wheat procurement not happening,

24:01 nor are they getting their rates,

24:05 but the government has also imposed restrictions on exports.

24:09 Where will the farmers go?

24:12 And then, Bilawal Buttoz Dardari Sahib

24:15 also advised the Prime Minister

24:18 to find the people, the bureaucrats,

24:21 who made these wrong decisions,

24:24 and to find them and to punish them.

24:27 The Prime Minister, Shabaz Sharif Sahib,

24:30 should be found.

24:33 Which bureaucrats are these,

24:36 which ministers are these,

24:39 who were involved in this scandal,

24:42 should take action against them.

24:45 And now, the government should take action,

24:49 and there should be no delay in that.

24:53 Even today, in the National Assembly,

24:56 Shazia Murry, a member of the National Assembly

24:59 of the Pakistan People's Party,

25:02 spoke about the arrests of farmers in Lahore and Punjab.

25:06 In Pakistan, there is oppression against farmers,

25:10 there is constant economic killing.

25:13 The farmers are being arrested from everywhere.

25:17 The government once again demands

25:20 that this oppression should be stopped.

25:24 But the Chief Minister of Punjab,

25:27 Maryam Nawaz Sharif,

25:30 has a different opinion on the issue of buying wheat.

25:34 When I bought wheat,

25:37 there were corruption cases,

25:40 I closed that path.

25:43 There is no wheat harvest.

25:46 In four months, we are bringing a package

25:49 worth 400 billion rupees for the farmers.

25:52 We will give them a crop worth 1.5 lakh rupees.

25:55 Mr. Khalid Mehmood Khokhar is with us,

25:58 from the Farmer's Union.

26:01 Let's talk to him about the current situation.

26:04 Thank you very much, Mr. Khokhar.

26:07 We have heard the Chief Minister's statement.

26:10 You have raised this issue in the Parliament,

26:13 especially on the basis of the PPP,

26:16 and the rest of the Sunni Council members.

26:19 What is the current situation on the ground?

26:22 I don't understand what is happening.

26:25 The wheat has been bought,

26:28 the Aarti has been taken,

26:31 the Punjab government is talking,

26:34 and the farmers are being harassed.

26:37 Thank you.

26:40 The current rate of wheat is 2300 to 2400 rupees.

26:43 The farmer is not getting the crop he needs.

26:46 All the politicians who are talking about this,

26:49 they should sit together in the Assembly

26:52 and make a policy.

26:55 The implementation of the Agricultural Emergency

26:58 is very important in Pakistan.

27:01 The population we are increasing every year,

27:04 the population we are adding every year,

27:07 there is no growth in our agriculture.

27:10 Mr. Khokhar, it's a good thing,

27:13 but tell us about the current crisis in Punjab.

27:16 Many people think it's a big oppression.

27:19 I am coming to the crisis.

27:22 The current rate of wheat,

27:25 I think it has lost only 5 to 6 billion rupees.

27:28 The farmer has lost money in corn and cotton.

27:31 Now the country is going to lose money.

27:34 The next two crops to come on the wheat market

27:37 are cotton and rice.

27:40 Both crops are going to be exported.

27:43 If the farmer does not have money,

27:46 the next crop will have a bad impact.

27:49 Your biggest import is cotton.

27:52 If you put the export of last year,

27:55 will you finish the wheat?

27:58 Will you finish the agriculture?

28:01 If the farmer does not have money,

28:04 how will he spend on the next crop?

28:07 The second thing is that when the farmer

28:10 did the wheat, it was on the government's commitment.

28:13 The government had set a minimum support price.

28:16 If the government wanted to get out of it,

28:19 it should have come out slowly,

28:22 but the government announced that it was not buying.

28:25 Mr. Jai,

28:28 Mr. Nawaz has announced outside Lahore

28:31 that nothing is happening,

28:34 there is no wheat crop,

28:37 we will give 400 billion to the people

28:40 in the next four months.

28:43 Do you want to burn wheat or throw it in the sea?

28:46 You decide for yourself.

28:49 We have to burn wheat,

28:52 we have no place to keep it.

28:55 We are selling at high prices,

28:58 we are selling at a high price,

29:01 we are forced to sell.

29:04 I can't express my feelings in words,

29:07 how much we are in pain,

29:10 the farmers of Pakistan and Punjab.

29:13 The government had made a commitment,

29:16 the government had to keep that commitment.

29:19 The government should have told us that

29:22 it was not buying,

29:25 we would have done whatever we wanted.

29:28 Mr. Khalid, tell us,

29:31 which government, which minister

29:34 had made a verbal commitment,

29:37 or a writing commitment?

29:40 We have not seen anything like this yet,

29:43 if there is anything, please tell us.

29:46 It's not just verbal commitment,

29:49 it's a whole thing.

29:52 Yes, Hassan Yousaf.

29:55 The minimum support price is 3900,

29:58 number one.

30:01 Number two, the government had run a campaign

30:04 in October and November,

30:07 to burn wheat, because the government

30:10 was showing that last year 24 women

30:13 were killed in the war.

30:16 We were not supposed to die of poverty.

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35:10 Do you have any agencies to report on this?

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The Reporters | Khawar Ghumman & Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain | ARY News | 16th May 2024

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