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00:00 I just had to go to a bathroom.
00:09 Welcome in to still potable.
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00:32 I am Sam Jam Packer joined by Brian B. Robb, Robb of masslive.com.
00:38 We were reacting to one and a half of the play in games at this point.
00:44 We'll talk all about the Heat and the Sixers, the most important game of the evening.
00:49 But you know, B Rob and I, we saw enough of the Hawks bulls game and ready to call it
00:56 with 50% of the ballots in we're declaring a bulls victory.
01:01 There could be some wild changes with the mail-in votes in the second half, but we'll
01:06 keep you updated as the evening goes on.
01:09 But the focus of the evening, because really I don't think any of us believe the bulls
01:14 or maybe even the Hawks have a chance of winning in the next game.
01:17 Although they might, they might consider maybe some injuries.
01:21 Well let's talk about the actual, the game here, the main of a main event 76ers win a
01:27 one Oh five to one Oh four and B Rob as a Celtics fan, I had a whole host of different
01:34 emotions about who I wanted to win this game.
01:38 But it is the 76ers who prevail.
01:40 They will play the New York Knicks leaving the possibly broken Miami Heat still alive
01:48 to possibly fend off the Celtics.
01:50 What was your reaction to kind of this very back and forth game?
01:55 What a rollercoaster.
01:56 What a while now when that this is par for the course, I feel like with those two teams
02:00 is that the exact type of wacky game that you would expect in the old platoon game.
02:06 I mean that like push everything else.
02:09 I will talk about all the ramifications later and all the, the injuries stuff, but that
02:12 a turn back the clock mode for them.
02:16 So, you know, six threes, the, a huge block in the final minute forcing another backcourt
02:22 violation to, it's just like a night where Embiid was meh and Maxie clearly didn't have
02:28 it consistently.
02:29 Uh, some of us stepping up and his name wasn't the bias Harris.
02:33 It was a, it was a two.
02:35 It was definitely not a Tobias Harris.
02:37 Yeah.
02:38 Just six of 10 from deep for 20 points.
02:40 I think his like season high, um, he was talking some, some smack after game.
02:45 He's like, I knew I'm a 40% three point shooter.
02:47 Like you guys shouldn't be that surprised.
02:49 Everyone was surprised by the throwback of a two game, but it's just like a wild rollercoaster.
02:55 The heat got out to this big lead in the second quarter by playing there.
02:59 Like really junk everything up zone kind of had some flashbacks to some, maybe some
03:05 Celtics series against the heat where it's just the 76ers turning the ball over again
03:10 and again and again, and allowing heat to get out to this massive, um, lead.
03:15 I think they are by 14 points at some point.
03:17 And that's kind of the formula we at least Celtics fans have, you know, accepted here
03:22 against playing the heat, especially in the playoffs.
03:24 There's such a, they struggle to score so much on offense that really, if you don't
03:29 turn the ball over, you should be able to kind of get back into the game.
03:33 That's what the Sixers did, uh, in the second half.
03:36 I mean, obviously, but two had a lot of scoring, but they really just cut down on, on turnovers
03:41 and were able to get themselves back in this game because the heat just, we're not able
03:45 to generate any sort of like consistent offense in the second half.
03:49 Jimmy Butler, not really there whatsoever.
03:53 He had nine points really at the, their entire offense was, um, Tyler hero, bam out of bio
03:59 is back, get on his back and that back wasn't carrying much.
04:02 Yeah.
04:03 And so at the start of this game, I was like, Oh, I, the heat are going to be annoying with
04:07 their zone.
04:08 I don't really want to see, I have the Celtics play them.
04:10 So I was like kind of rooting for the heat.
04:12 I also didn't think Joel Embiid was like looking that healthy.
04:14 And I was like, that's very much easy, like in the series.
04:19 Then Jimmy Butler gets, um, hurt.
04:22 He like knocks knees with, um, Kelly Ubrae.
04:26 And then he's just hobbled the rest of the game.
04:28 And I was like, Oh, maybe it's better of the Celtics play the heat because they got to
04:31 hurt Jimmy Butler.
04:33 The heat still have to play the, I guess the winner of this game tonight on Friday night
04:37 and before even a possible game on Sunday.
04:40 And so, I don't know, I just had all sorts of mixed emotions trying to figure out which
04:45 was the best matchup for the Celtics.
04:47 Ultimately walking away thinking maybe there's a reason these two teams are the seventh and
04:51 eighth team in the Eastern conference.
04:55 I just don't think either team looked like they were capable of winning a first round
04:59 series at this point.
05:01 Yeah.
05:02 Embiid, uh, clearly is not close to a hundred percent at this point.
05:06 That's not a big surprise.
05:07 Um, I do see though that the, the Knicks and the Sixers have opened up as a pick 'em in
05:16 some sports books out of the gate here.
05:17 I expect that to shift.
05:19 I would, if I was a betting man, I would be betting on the Knicks right now that they
05:22 say, and beats, he's not going to last an entire series.
05:25 And they have Mitchell Robinson and Hartenstein to like guys with size who they can throw
05:30 it and beat.
05:31 It's not like he's just going to dominate them in the post.
05:32 He doesn't even seem to want to go in the post.
05:34 Yeah.
05:35 I'm a few on that one in terms of where those teams are at, but, um, it's certainly a situation
05:41 where, yeah, these are two teams where there's a far level below where the Celtics are right
05:48 now.
05:49 And despite all the theatrics and the drama, like nothing tonight really changed any of
05:55 that in terms of how the Celtics should be looking in terms of either way, this way landed.
05:59 But to be honest now though, like the, the heat's off, like you said, the heat's offense
06:05 is just, just wretched, um, 40% from the field, uh, 35% from three.
06:12 But just that's there here.
06:16 Like when Jimmy Butler hurt his knee there in the first half, and then they had to be
06:19 like, okay, we really just can't run much of anything from through Butler anymore.
06:24 Um, it was pretty rough going with just like Tyler Hero's your guy and then Squon, you
06:30 know, get whatever else you can get.
06:32 The bench showed up for them.
06:34 High Smith, Jacquez, um, Kevin Lovey had a couple nice plays there, but there's just,
06:40 uh, it's kind of a, a skeleton crew of what guys can give you offensively.
06:44 And that certainly bodes well if this, and if they end up, you know, going through here
06:48 to the first round, because whatever Butler has going on, it seems like that's not going
06:52 to be a, that's not going to go away in a, in a week or two weeks.
06:56 Yeah.
06:57 He was limping heavily, um, kind of throughout the game, uh, report as he was limping out
07:03 of Wells Fargo.
07:05 It was a lot of fun for, you know, my Celtics fans on the timeline saying that it was a
07:10 fake injury and that he was only playing it up for the camera.
07:13 I have no idea what happened.
07:14 He did look to be in immediate pain when he knocked knees with Kelly O'Brie.
07:18 So I'm not necessarily going to question it, but I'm all here for, for the jokes.
07:22 The thing that's most interesting to me about the heat is all right.
07:26 Jimmy Butler goes down.
07:29 Why is Tyler Hero the next solution?
07:32 I understand Terry Rozier is out, but bam at a bio is supposed to be, he's not just
07:38 like a one way player.
07:39 Like he's obviously a very, very talented defensive player.
07:42 People talking to him for kind of in the running for defensive player of the year, first team
07:45 all NBA defense.
07:46 Why is he only taking nine shots, especially with a hobbled and bead.
07:50 It just feels like, and this is the problem with the heat.
07:54 It makes even things last year so much more infuriating because it's like, well, where's
07:59 Caleb Martin hitting five threes in a game?
08:01 And like, where are all these like role players stepping up?
08:05 Because the heat have always struggled to generate reliable offense.
08:08 But I think a problem with that is because bam out of bio is not a reliant or consistent
08:13 scorer.
08:14 And so if Jimmy Butler is hurt, I like, and if he, if their entire offense has to go through
08:22 Tyler Hero, there's a real chance that, and we're still calling the bulls, the winner,
08:28 although it's only a four point game now in the third quarter, there's a real chance the
08:32 bulls are coming in.
08:34 Yeah, those sailors from overseas are really having a heavy Hawks voting.
08:39 But I think there's a good chance that one of those teams could beat the heat if it,
08:45 if they're still kind of banged up in this game on Friday night.
08:47 Oh yeah.
08:48 I mean, both of these teams, their offenses are better than the heat regardless.
08:53 And so the, the question is, is it's, can the heat just coming up enough to where they
08:59 can get enough done or just to get a hot shooting night from random guys off the bench, which
09:04 is certainly possible.
09:05 They were Duncan Robinson didn't play tonight too, even though he was active.
09:08 I think they're, they're clearly saving him, saving Terry for the, the true must win at
09:15 on their home floor, knowing that, you know, if those guys play a tough minutes tonight
09:19 and they lost, and that may kind of put them out of the picture for Friday.
09:23 But yeah, this is, I mean, this is not, this Miami team, we know it's not last year's team.
09:30 We know they're missing a lot of pieces from last year's team, but it's painfully apparent
09:34 now just like how far they've fallen offensively this year.
09:38 And that's again, doesn't mean shit once a seven game series starts, but for a one game,
09:45 like must win situation or just against the, a real rim protector in MPD that was on full
09:51 display tonight, because like you said, with bam, the nine shots, I think just shows you
09:56 like even MPD at 80%, he just such a monster defensively as a rim protector.
10:02 And just with the ground, you can cover around the hoop that bam, that the heat category
10:10 said, but yeah, we, if we can't just run it through a band, because we're not going to
10:13 get better looks, we're not going to get anything beyond just like mid range jumpers for bam.
10:19 Yeah.
10:20 And, and so like, and I feel like their, their offense has historically been bad.
10:24 The thing that still, I don't know if it scares me as a Celtics fan, but you still have to
10:30 be aware of the heat.
10:32 They were able to throw out that just like junk zone that was kind of amorphous, a blob
10:37 that the Sixers really didn't know what to do with there in the first half, especially
10:43 there in that second quarter.
10:45 And you would have to think that the Celtics after playing the heat in the Eastern conference
10:48 finals two years in a row have to be prepared to play against some zone.
10:57 Although it's a shout out to, I forget his actual handle, but his name's Max and he's
11:03 on Twitter.
11:04 And I was asking about the stats about like what the Celtics have done against the zone
11:09 this year.
11:11 And they've only had 173 possessions against a zone.
11:15 They're 111 points, 0.6 per points per a hundred possessions, which is, I think there's seventh
11:21 in the league.
11:22 The league average is 103.
11:24 So the Celtics have done pretty well against a zone.
11:28 But it's obviously not something that gotten a lot of exposure to, but in my heart of hearts,
11:32 I would have to believe that this is like the heat can't just throw out a junk zone
11:38 and like completely baffle the Celtics into losses.
11:42 One they have the experience playing against the zone.
11:44 Two, hopefully they have Chris Stapps Porzingis, the ultimate zone breaker who you can just
11:49 kind of give the ball to him in the middle and he can knock down that like elbow jumper.
11:53 100%.
11:54 I mean that the game we talked about earlier this week, Packard, where they kicked the
11:59 shit out of them in Miami.
12:00 That was a game where they saw plenty of junk zone and they just, and Porzingis just dominated
12:07 it from the top of the key or from the mid range there.
12:10 And when you have eight guys on the roster right now that are shooting 35% or better
12:16 from three point range and many more above 40% that in theory, this should be a situation
12:22 where that's maybe it's frustrates the Celtics for a few possessions here or there, but this
12:27 is personnel wise, shooting wise, just a different animal than it was last year on that front.
12:35 And but, but you, you know that this is what the heat do.
12:39 They junk shit up small strip.
12:41 We'll probably find new wrinkles to throw in the zone to kind of make the Celtics second
12:46 guess what shots they should be taking or where passes are there and, and inevitably,
12:52 you know, turn them into like a 20 point quarter at some point with this stuff.
12:56 But the personnel is much better.
13:00 The consistency of this team is much better than the passing with this year's team just
13:04 feels like much better overall.
13:06 So, but it is, I mean, this lines up as the test here and I mean, Jay talked about it
13:10 for the last couple of months here.
13:12 Like this is bringing back the memories of 2022 right now of the exercising demons with
13:18 the nets and the Celtics could conceivably do this year with the heat.
13:22 If, if they end up getting through, we will check back in with the ballots on the bulls
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15:02 And now back to the show.
15:07 Are you playing a video or am I just going back?
15:09 No, you're coming back.
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15:11 And we're back here on still potable checking in the bulls up by six midway through the
15:23 third quarter.
15:24 We're still our official still potable projection holds that should be bulls versus the Miami
15:31 heat in that final playing game to for the privilege, the privilege of playing the Celtics
15:36 at this to be the eight seed to start that series on Sunday.
15:42 Even if Jimmy Butler is hurt, I still think he's going to play because he is playoff Jimmy
15:48 Butler, you know, classic playoff.
15:50 He's always showing up in the clutch with his 19 points on five of 18 shooting in this
15:56 critical playing game.
15:57 I still think the heat are the favorites.
15:59 And I think as you were saying before the break, like really, it shouldn't matter for
16:04 the Celtics.
16:06 They should be heavily favored against all three of their possible opponents.
16:10 But I do think there's some sweet redemption right now in the, if they do get to play the
16:16 heat and beat them soundly in a series.
16:19 Yes, they might play in the mud, but I think that's like well worth the challenge of we're
16:24 beating the best coach in the league.
16:25 We're beating the team that took us to seven games two years ago, beat us in seven games
16:31 this year or last year, pretty much embarrassed us with the three Oh's start.
16:35 And I do think it's a way to a kind of a good way for the Celtics to get that redemption
16:39 start off the playoff run.
16:43 And like really, if you're going to have trouble with these teams, maybe you're just not as
16:48 good of a team as we all thought they were because just the level, there's just a huge
16:53 talent gap between the Celtics and all three of the rosters they can potentially face easily.
17:00 And with the, and I guess the other kind of sneaky thing here is, and I'll found really
17:06 dumb for this in a week or two, if he ends up playing a big role in a series is hero
17:11 in the playoffs for this like particular group in the last couple of years, that's not necessarily
17:16 been a good thing for Miami.
17:19 And tonight we saw some of that with like the nine of 27 shooting, but defensively,
17:24 he's just someone to go at, which last year they didn't have really have that weakness
17:29 defensively in the starting five.
17:31 And now, I mean, we know going back to the bubble, he was just such a killer back then
17:37 in 2020 in the Eastern conference finals then, but his career, I feel like, I don't know
17:41 if it peaked at that point, but it certainly hasn't gotten up to a level where now, you
17:45 know, he'll have to go on certain nights there, but it seems like he's certainly not capable
17:51 of being like a number two or even number three on a, on a really good team at this
17:57 point.
17:58 And that's because the heat clearly have not been that consistently this year.
18:01 Yeah.
18:02 And he was their only real option there in the fourth quarter.
18:05 He, I guess, give him credit.
18:07 He scored 16 of their 30 points was five of 10, but that he's Jimmy Butler took two shots.
18:15 Trump took one, like their entire offense was just flowing through Tyler hero.
18:20 And I feel like one of the strong points, like they, he broke his, what is wrist or
18:23 his hand in that first game against Milwaukee last year.
18:27 And it allowed players like Caleb Martin, Max Bruce and Gabe Vincent, who are not amazing
18:32 defenders, but like are just much more serviceable than Tyler hero is.
18:39 It also helped that they shot what 45% from three in the series against the Celtics.
18:44 And so it made themselves that much more valuable, but I thought like the heat, their strength,
18:49 obviously, and this is still a strength of this team is their defense.
18:54 But if they have to play Tyler hero, especially Jimmy butlers, uh, banged up a little bit,
18:59 if they have to run offense through Tyler hero and play him close to 40 minutes a game,
19:04 I think it was just a pure place for the Celtics to target.
19:08 And I feel like that's just a time for Jalen Brown post-ups, Jason Tatum post-ups on, um,
19:14 a smaller, less agile defender.
19:17 And it's something that I think the Celtics have been very good at and executing this
19:22 year of like finding the weak link, getting the ball to the right guy, um, and just playing
19:26 through that.
19:27 And so personally, I would welcome any matchup against, uh, the Miami heat at this point.
19:33 Yeah, it feels like heroes, like the ceiling on their defense just hits a certain spot
19:37 when he's on the floor for those types of big minutes because of everything he was there.
19:42 Like those, those, the, the Martins, the high Smiths, the road, even the Hawkeyes, like
19:47 junior, like those guys are the ones that really can get after people defensively really
19:51 would make the Celtics lives miserable there.
19:55 But if there's, there's always going to be someone to go after if he was on the floor
19:58 and it's like you said, the Suns have just gotten, they're just much better at it this
20:02 year.
20:03 They're smarter about how to attack it.
20:05 And Miami, this, it may take some time in a series against Miami because Miami will
20:09 confuse them.
20:10 Miami will try to hide them in certain spots or do certain switching where maybe the, it
20:15 sends the Celtics in the wrong direction here or there, but the personnel matchups are at
20:20 a point now where it really shouldn't matter because no matter who here he's on, like that's
20:25 mismatch and whether it's holiday taking him in the post or Derek White taking him off
20:31 the dribble or obviously Tatum and Brown just doing whatever with him when they get him
20:37 in ISO.
20:38 Like that's that will be, you know, there'll be looking at their chops at that type of
20:44 a matchup and, and they'll have to, I don't know what the out is.
20:48 I guess Terry Rozier X factor here, Duncan Robinson, X factor.
20:52 Is he going to, are those guys, I guess that could take some of the pressure off.
20:57 I mean, I, Duncan Robinson, Terry Rozier, not necessarily known for their defense, but
21:01 I guess if you need some other sources of offense, Terry was here, I'd like a neck injury
21:05 or something like bizarre like that.
21:09 He was even with the team there in Philadelphia.
21:12 And so, Hey, I'm a, I'm a big Terry Rozier fan.
21:15 I don't know if he's necessarily the solution there for the heat.
21:19 I don't want to call into question the integrity of our official prediction of the bulls winning,
21:25 but let's live in a hypothetical world where we might be wrong, or let's just live in the
21:29 hypothetical world where either the bulls or the Hawks win the game on Friday night.
21:35 I'm curious, who do you think is a, a better matchup for the Celtics?
21:40 We did see the Celtics lose back-to-back games to the Hawks in Atlanta one with a basically
21:47 half their team, not playing.
21:48 And then the redemption game with their entire team playing and Dijon, Tammari scoring 44
21:53 points on 44 shots.
21:56 Who do you think would have a better chance of taking some games against the Celtics?
21:59 This Hawks team with Trey young coming off his hand injury or DeMar DeRozan, Javante
22:08 green and the Chicago bulls.
22:10 It's gotta be the Hawks, right?
22:13 Like they have the, just the higher offensive upside.
22:18 And I don't know if they're a better team now of Trey young back of like clearly defensively
22:23 there that just, they were like a semi decent team when he was out the last month.
22:28 Plus I feel like, and now with him back in the fold, that just kind of goes away, but
22:33 they still have, you know, three bona fides scores of him, Dejohn, a Murray and look Donovish,
22:40 who has been phenomenal this year.
22:43 And Capella is, you know, has that rough ups and down stretches in the last couple of years.
22:47 But I feel like he's been really good for the last couple of months.
22:49 That's kind of how they've, you know, they won those games that's that week.
22:52 Cause he was pretty good too.
22:54 And the bulls are just like, I don't know, they're, they're old.
22:57 Alex Crusoe is really good.
22:59 They've got some intriguing young guys, but Kobe White's like might be most improved player.
23:03 He's been playing extremely well.
23:06 The problem with the bulls is this, like their center Vucevic has completely fallen off a
23:10 cliff.
23:11 Like I think he's shooting 29% from three.
23:15 And so if he can't do pick and pop, it's not like he's going to be like, like you can easily
23:20 spread the floor and it's not like he's going to be guarding at the three point line.
23:25 Obviously Andre Drummond can do amazing things on the offensive glass.
23:28 And we've seen the Celtics get hurt sometimes giving up a bunch of boards, but if the bulls
23:33 want to play Andre Drummond for, you know, more than 15 minutes in a game, I think the
23:38 Celtics would welcome that because he's another like kind of lumbering center.
23:43 And so I think I like four players on the bulls roster and maybe four players on the
23:48 Hawks roster.
23:51 You know what, if Dejounte Murray wants to shoot another 45 shots in a game and like,
23:56 that's the key to victory for the Hawks.
23:59 I would have to tip my cap to them, but it's probably looking like it's going to be the
24:04 bulls at this point.
24:05 There's still projections are still holding.
24:06 Bulls are up by 10 right now with three minutes left in the third quarter.
24:12 Like you let like they just haven't really, they don't have a lot of great three point
24:15 shooting.
24:16 And so I think things are looking up if you are a Celtics fan this point heading into
24:24 game one on Sunday.
24:25 Well, it's funny now the there's six man right now, or at least tonight Packard is it's Javante
24:30 Green for the bulls.
24:31 And wasn't he just not in the league?
24:34 He was not on the team.
24:36 I think they signed him probably early March.
24:40 He was on the team last year.
24:42 I thought he was pretty good.
24:44 So I think he was playing for in the G League for a while this year for, I want to say the
24:48 Warriors G League team.
24:50 He was definitely around and then because he was dealing with, he got hurt at the end
24:56 of last year.
24:57 It just wasn't never got right really.
24:58 And then they, so they brought him back clearly and he's played well for them.
25:02 I mean, I'll give a crap.
25:03 Like I'm a big Javante Green fan in general.
25:07 Big mistake to to move him within Daniel Tice way back in the day, but that's a story for
25:11 their day.
25:12 But yeah, that just kind of speaks to where the bulls like depth is at this point where
25:18 it's like him and Drummond coming off the bench, Javante Carter there too.
25:24 And yeah, like there's there's fun names, intriguing names in the starting five, but
25:29 certainly defensively the bulls have no chance against the Celtics in a seven game series
25:36 and offensively they're just like less explosive than the Atlanta on the game at night.
25:41 Cause like you said, the, the boost of it's part of them.
25:43 That's like been the beginning of the end.
25:45 Like once he falls off there, if you don't have that stretch ability to the extent that
25:50 they've had in the past, like to cover up his defensive awards, then it's, it's game
25:54 over.
25:55 It's like just the Orlando magic all over again, five years ago.
25:59 I'm going to put you on the spot B Rob, given that we've already declared the bulls are
26:03 going to win and given, we don't know exactly what Jimmy Butler's injury is going to be.
26:09 What is your prediction for the, for the playing game on Friday night?
26:14 The heat will still find a way.
26:16 I think even though this is, it's kind of wild though, because this is the exact matchup
26:20 to like at the, for last year, right?
26:23 Like the heat just pulled that out against the bulls at the end.
26:29 But yeah, I still, I give it to them.
26:31 I'm like, until the someone stomps on their grave, I'm not counting out the heat from
26:38 getting into the playoffs in the first place.
26:40 I'm certainly not going to count on the bulls to do it.
26:44 But it is, I mean, the Jimmy factor there, that is real.
26:47 What Terry and Duncan Robinson look like in that game, they could come out and just have
26:50 nothing.
26:51 And then we'll be looking at Tyler Hero taking 30, 35 shots again.
26:56 So in that situation, you have to give bulls more than a fighting chance there, but I'm
27:01 still laying my heart, man.
27:03 I mean, where are you, where are you on this one?
27:05 Yeah, I think the heat are not going to die.
27:07 I think the Celtics in order to prevail, need to slay their past enemies, the past dragon,
27:16 proverbial dragon, metaphorical dragon.
27:19 It'll be like Spoh will give them, I think Spoh is just the best coach in the league.
27:24 He's going to play in the mud.
27:26 I don't think, I think he can junk up a zone and for one game and beat the bulls.
27:31 And I think he's going to throw everything in the kitchen sink against the Celtics.
27:36 But my way too early prediction at this point is going to be Celtics in five over the Miami
27:43 heat.
27:44 I just think that they're way too talented.
27:46 And especially if Jimmy Butler is hurt tonight, has to play through a game on Friday night
27:51 and then come back on Sunday and play the one o'clock start.
27:58 I think that's just an easy way for the Celtics to kind of get started.
28:03 That being said, the Celtics play three games over the first week.
28:06 They got a Sunday, Wednesday, Saturday schedule.
28:11 So potentially a lot of time for a player like Jimmy Butler to rest up.
28:15 I think that's also just beneficial to the Celtics who, you know, they have, they're
28:21 going to need all their, their bigs, especially Chris taps and Al Horford well-rested, but
28:27 a lot of time between games, a lot of time between games.
28:30 Yeah, that, that's going to be a long week, but I guess to talk to a little bit more of
28:37 the Celtics here for a three-year matchup with those gaps in there, Packard, where do
28:42 you want to see these guys like minutes wise, like especially guys like corporate and pricing
28:47 is out of the gate after the long break, but knowing they're going to have good recovery
28:52 time in those, at least the first three games of this series.
28:56 Like I wonder how hard, you know, Missoula steps on the gas with those guys, or if we
29:02 do see, you know, like a random appearance by Luke Cornette here or there just to take
29:08 the, you know, just because they can.
29:11 I think ideally you are beating the heat by 25 and then you get to throw in the scrubs
29:16 for the final.
29:17 Well, Joe Missoula is not going to do that in a playoff game.
29:20 He was going to leave those guys until like minutes left.
29:24 I should have known that as soon as I said it.
29:26 I don't know.
29:27 I think that's a very good question is like, do we get a random six minutes of Luke Cornette?
29:32 I certainly think Joe Missoula is comfortable throwing it out there.
29:36 I'd be less, I'd be more surprised if we saw a Javier Tillman in there just because I think
29:41 he's such a, just a, a negative on offense.
29:46 I think he's like very good in terms of moving his feet on defense and as a good perimeter
29:50 defender, but I think the heat would just completely let him take threes in the corner.
29:54 And that's just not what I want to see from the Celtics in the playoffs.
29:58 I wouldn't be surprised if it's like the early rounds, they maybe give Cornette some run,
30:03 especially in the bulls for sure.
30:05 Right?
30:06 Like if they're going to play drama, yeah, I would see like it would be Cornette makes
30:11 some more sense against the heat.
30:13 I think maybe you give some Cornette some minutes when, cause they, who's the, who's
30:19 the heats backup center.
30:21 I guess it's Kevin Love at this point.
30:23 Maybe it's Brian.
30:24 Yeah.
30:25 So maybe, yeah, you probably don't, you probably see Tillman if you go anywhere, you probably
30:28 see Tillman over Cornette there just to guard the three point line more, but the, he could
30:33 also just straight up like Thomas Bryant, they have there too, but he just strapped
30:37 in and play tonight and they just went, we don't want big and a bunch of links off the
30:41 bench.
30:42 So yeah, I guess a lot of it is just going to be determined in like, okay, who are these
30:45 other teams going off off their bench?
30:47 And then just let us go from there.
30:49 But to be honest, it might just be, you know, you, you just give a few more minutes to Pritchard
30:54 and Hauser and go like single big, a little bit more against a team like that.
30:57 And that way you can keep both Horford and Porzingis between 30 and 35 tops and that
31:05 should be sufficient.
31:06 Yeah.
31:07 I'm curious how much you think they're going to play a Horford and Porzingis together because
31:14 they certainly did that a fair amount this year.
31:15 I don't know if there was the most effective their offense was this year, but I think the
31:21 safe space space for them to be is just to have 40, 48 minutes of those two guys at center.
31:26 And so just really kind of split their time and, and use the kind of wing rotation and
31:33 the guard rotation around those two guys more so than because the more you use those two
31:37 guys together, the more likely you're going to have to use a third big like Cornette.
31:41 And so I think to me, especially in this team that doesn't have a lot of size like the heat,
31:49 I think it makes sense to just kind of be a single big.
31:51 I agree.
31:52 I think that's just not a team that double big makes a lot of sense unless you're getting
31:58 like destroyed at the rim for whatever reason or on the glass.
32:02 But both those teams like that, a Miami team shouldn't scare them on that front.
32:06 That's a team that you're more worried about everyone getting hot from three point range
32:10 and having Horford and Porzingis out there to deal with that is kind of playing to their
32:14 hands a little bit.
32:15 So keep it, you know, double bigs, like maybe 10, 15 minutes and eight tops just maybe for
32:22 a different look at some point of the game.
32:24 But by and large, yeah, the best way to control those minutes is the single big look and a
32:30 team like Miami would play into their hands there and and bring.
32:34 We have some breaking news of the returns here.
32:37 You know, Arizona has been called.
32:40 So I think we're that bodes well for the Chicago Bulls, who are up 18 now at the end of the
32:46 third quarter.
32:47 So we're we're they're up to vindicated, vindicated, vindicated.
32:51 The still potable halftime call has been vindicated Friday night.
32:56 It will be Chicago Bulls traveling to Miami for in a one game single elimination for the
33:03 privilege of playing the Boston Celtics.
33:08 Should be an interesting game, should be a fun game.
33:09 I just do.
33:10 I do like enjoy the play.
33:11 And it's been a lot of fun watching basketball, meaningful basketball over the past two evenings.
33:16 And so get ready, folks.
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