"Judges ko Mashkook Letters Ka ana Asal Muamlay Say Tawaja Hatana Hai " Intazar Hussain Panjutha's Statement
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"Judges ko Mashkook Letters Ka ana Asal Muamlay Say Tawaja Hatana Hai " Intazar Hussain Panjutha's Statement
"Judges ko Mashkook Letters Ka ana Asal Muamlay Say Tawaja Hatana Hai " Intazar Hussain Panjutha's Statement
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00:00 Sir, tell me, at this time, this letter-related matter is going on.
00:05 The leader of your party, a while ago, was saying that this seems to be someone else's conspiracy.
00:11 Is there an overall impression in PTI and in Wukala that this could be someone else's conspiracy?
00:17 Look, personally I think that this could be anyone's conspiracy.
00:21 This is an immaterial thing.
00:22 Okay.
00:23 This letter that has come, the letters that have been sent to one judge and another, and the things that are coming to us in a series of letters,
00:31 all this is a conspiracy to divert your attention.
00:36 From where should I divert?
00:37 I am not saying that.
00:38 Your main issue is that letter from 6 judges.
00:41 If an investigation of a letter from 6 judges is done, and if justice is served to them, then this is not an issue.
00:48 Sir, this letter is not for him.
00:49 Look, look, what is this issue?
00:52 This is basically when there is no rule of law in Pakistan,
00:55 when decisions are not being made according to the law in Pakistan,
01:00 and there is lawlessness, and the society is divided, then such acts continue to take place.
01:06 So where is your main issue?
01:08 Your main issue is on the judicial system.
01:11 That issue was raised by these judges.
01:13 This is the issue that was raised for the first time in the history of Pakistan after Justice Cornelius.
01:18 If you pay more attention to these small distractions and put the main issue behind it.
01:25 They are doing the main issue, they are also picking up the things, and he is continuing with it.
01:29 Look, you increase the security measures,
01:34 so there is a letter, from where it came, you yourself said that there is a letter,
01:38 that letter will be traced, it will be found out where it came from.
01:42 Next time you will increase their security, you investigate,
01:45 this is not such a big issue as it is being made.
01:48 I think, this is my personal opinion,
01:51 I think that the main issue on which we should talk,
01:54 those are the six judges, they should talk about justice,
01:58 we should talk about that, everyone's role should be in it,
02:02 that who is playing what role, this is the most important phase of your country's history.
02:07 We have been discussing that, but in my point of view this is very important.
02:10 Mr. Parshad, in your view, is this not such an important matter,
02:15 that who is getting letters from where, judges are getting letters again and again,
02:18 they are getting letters with arsenic, this is not a small matter.
02:23 Absolutely, those who come, if you ask them, they will tell you what they have gone through.
02:29 Anyway, I think that this letter,
02:35 either someone is doing an adventure and enjoying it,
02:40 or there is a third force, which is taking advantage of this opportunity,
02:45 to spread hatred between the courts and institutions,
02:51 and to create distrust.
02:54 But, anyway, it should be investigated, it is extremely important.
02:59 All these letters have been submitted to the law enforcement agencies,
03:06 and the FIRs have also been filed.
03:09 And as the spread of this is increasing,
03:12 the tension is increasing, but at the same time it seems that,
03:19 the forces that are taking advantage of this,
03:24 will definitely be enjoying it.
03:27 So, reaching them, I think,
03:31 it is very important to reach the people responsible for this.
03:35 It cannot be left like this, nor should it be taken so lightly.
03:39 Because, those who receive threatening letters,
03:43 it becomes difficult for them to work easily and with great passion.
03:54 Right, fair enough.
03:55 Mr. Punjabi, now the question arises again.
03:57 Before this, you spoke about the letter.
03:59 The letters come, and then this letter comes,
04:01 and then a strange situation arises.
04:03 That our people who are giving justice,
04:06 have to find justice, and they need protection.
04:10 So, how will they give protection to anyone?
04:11 First of all, our judiciary is not present at a very good ranking.
04:15 And it is not like that,
04:16 any political party has come and is protesting against the law.
04:18 We know what happened that night when the vote of no confidence was held.
04:21 After that, the Supreme Court was in session at 12 o'clock.
04:24 All political parties use the law in the same way.
04:28 So, when this situation arises,
04:30 then what kind of law enforcement, justice,
04:34 and applying the law on yourself, where does that go?
04:40 You are absolutely right.
04:43 The point I am raising here,
04:46 is that you have pointed out your root cause,
04:51 that where are your issues?
04:53 Your issues are that on your constitution,
04:56 on your law, your judges,
04:58 they do not apply their mind independently before making a decision.
05:02 Different types of pressure tactics are used on them,
05:05 which have been mentioned in great detail by six judges of the High Court.
05:10 Now, these additional letters that are coming,
05:13 I consider it to be temporary,
05:16 it is a bubble that will end in two or four days.
05:23 If you increase the security measures,
05:25 if you train the attacks that you take to the judges,
05:28 then it will end.
05:29 This is not such a big issue.
05:31 The real issue is that,
05:33 why did the BJP say that the inquiry should be done in the Jamia?
05:36 The real issue is that,
05:39 why is meddling in the work of the judges?
05:43 Who does it?
05:45 Why is it done?
05:46 We have to ask that question,
05:48 we have to talk about the freedom of the judges.
05:51 Sir, this question is very important.
05:54 Why is the name of Judge Zeba mentioned in the proceedings?
05:57 Why is the name of Chief Justice mentioned in the PMLN?
06:01 Why is it done on the floor of the Parliament?
06:07 Why does this happen?
06:08 Because they do not take decisions according to justice.
06:11 So, they say whatever they want.
06:13 They take dictations.
06:14 This has been proven by the judges.
06:16 The letters written by the six judges,
06:18 they were given dictations,
06:20 those who did not agree,
06:21 their families were kidnapped,
06:22 they were tortured.
06:23 So, this is why it is given.
06:24 So, it is threatened from the other side as well.
06:25 No, no, it is not threatened.
06:27 You said that the name of Judge Zeba should be mentioned.
06:30 I did not just talk about Judge Zeba,
06:32 I also talked about the Parliament,
06:33 I also talked about the PMLN.
06:35 It is an attached matter with Mr. Khan,
06:37 so I think it is necessary for me to answer it.
06:40 Mr. Khan, whatever were his words,
06:43 Mr. Khan, he did not say anything.
06:45 Later on, he apologized.
06:46 No, he apologized, he also apologized.
06:48 All that happened on record.
06:49 But even today, that case is still going on.
06:52 But what was the content in it?
06:55 What was said?
06:56 He was not threatened to kill him.
06:58 He was not threatened that I will physically go against you.
07:01 No, no, I will talk about it.
07:03 I will talk about it because clarification is necessary.
07:06 There is a general statement everywhere,
07:09 it is fitted with everything.
07:11 If someone says that he is speaking right,
07:15 it is mixed with wrong.
07:17 If you talk about legal action against someone,
07:20 the letter written by 6 judges of Islamabad High Court,
07:24 against them, a reference has been filed.
07:26 So, filing a reference,
07:28 making a request,
07:30 this is a legal procedure.
07:32 This is according to your law.
07:33 This is according to the will of your law.
07:35 This is for the governance of your law.
07:37 But if there is any action
07:39 by which you pressurize the judges,
07:42 pressure was done on Constitution Avenue,
07:45 when the Supreme Court gate was broken,
07:47 there was a political party there,
07:50 who took advantage, it was in the government,
07:53 they all went there together,
07:55 what was done on the gate of the Supreme Court,
07:57 that was to bring pressure.
07:58 This is not that I will take action against you.
08:00 You can't decide what pressure to take.
08:02 If I talk about legal action,
08:04 I am talking about the supremacy of law.
08:06 I am talking about the belief in law.
08:08 You are a lawyer,
08:10 you don't need to say anything in the sessions.
08:12 Because you are talking about a certain political party,
08:14 I am also talking about a certain political party,
08:16 you don't need to say anything in the sessions,
08:18 there is a legal procedure for that.