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WEEI's Nick "Fitzy" Stevens and Mike Kadlick join the show for a Patriots mock draft snake draft, where the guys take turns drafting or trading at the team's first four picks to establish optimal Plans A, B and C for the front office. Later, Andrew welcomes Gary Langlais for a new MailFan segment.   You can also listen and Subscribe to Pats Interference on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, and at CLNSMedia.com two times a week!    Get in on the excitement with PrizePicks, America’s No. 1 Fantasy Sports App, where you can turn your hoops knowledge into serious cash. Download the app today and use code CLNS for a first deposit match up to $100! Pick more. Pick less. It’s that Easy! Football season may be over, but the action on the floor is heating up. Whether it’s Tournament Season or the fight for playoff homecourt, there’s no shortage of high stakes basketball moments this time of year. Quick withdrawals, easy gameplay and an enormous selection of players and stat types are what make PrizePicks the #1 daily fantasy sports app!

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00:00:10 Okay, recording here Thursday morning.

00:00:14 Outside we have the Northeaster that must have hit snooze about a half dozen times

00:00:19 because that is the only explanation for why we're here on April 4th,

00:00:23 coated with frozen rain and snow.

00:00:24 But inside it is toasty warm three weeks away from the NFL draft as we continue to

00:00:28 lay tracks for the hype train headed towards the draft.

00:00:31 We welcome in Fitzy and WEI's Mike Kadlec for the show, both of the Six Rings and

00:00:35 Football Things podcast along with Andy Hart who will join this show once IT can

00:00:40 figure out how to fit his head into the shot on YouTube.

00:00:43 >> Wow.

00:00:44 >> I like it.

00:00:46 >> Shots fired early, Hart catching strays, I love it.

00:00:49 >> It's almost seven and three quarters up top, not quite custom fit,

00:00:53 not like Kevin Mench, old Texas Ranger size eight, size eight hat.

00:00:58 But every once in a while my wife remembers that and

00:01:00 then has second thoughts about having kids with me.

00:01:01 So we'll see where that goes.

00:01:03 But enough about things that might get me in trouble.

00:01:05 A few things off the top.

00:01:06 >> Nice, Kevin, it's these eight.

00:01:07 >> These fine gentlemen here, this latest episode brought to you by Prize Picks.

00:01:11 We have a Patriots mock draft, snake draft.

00:01:15 I will explain what that is in a second.

00:01:18 First off the top, we have a terrific male fan segment at the end of this episode

00:01:21 with Gary Langley of Culver City, California, for those of you who don't know.

00:01:25 Male fan is just mailbag, except for

00:01:27 you made a donation to Boston Children's Hospital and you came on the show for

00:01:30 ten minutes.

00:01:30 Gary was great, he has a special offer for

00:01:32 you if you like Maine vacation houses and listen to this podcast.

00:01:36 So stay tuned at the end for this.

00:01:37 Second thing, shout out to my guy, Stefan, loyal listener,

00:01:40 saw him at the Garden last night as I was helping cover Celtics Thunder for

00:01:43 the Herald.

00:01:44 He stopped me to say hello, very nice guy, Stefan, my guy.

00:01:47 Speaking of the Thunder, fellas,

00:01:50 I tweeted this quote out last night and I have to assume you both took this as

00:01:54 a direct personal attack to your family name, the company name.

00:01:57 Because Thunder coach and Lemonster native, Mark Dagnall,

00:02:02 from a seated position, dunked over all of us in Boston Sports Media saying,

00:02:07 quote, I know how you guys are, because we used to go to Red Sox games.

00:02:11 Dagnall's like 39, and we listened to WEI afterward, and it's just a bloodbath.

00:02:18 Jesus, it's one out of 162, relapse, end quote.

00:02:22 Fellas, are you gonna take that standing up sitting down,

00:02:24 what's gonna happen?

00:02:25 >> Well, I take that with a historical grain of salt, because I think what he's

00:02:29 referencing is being a kid in the car on the way to the Sox game with his dad,

00:02:34 pre-reverse of the curse, prime evil empire versus the good guys of Red Sox nation.

00:02:41 And it was a bloodbath every night.

00:02:42 We lived and died by each and every Shaughnessy column, box score, and

00:02:47 big show with Glenn Ordway.

00:02:49 Since then, softness, complacency, and four championships in 20 years

00:02:54 has obviously eased the burden upon the back of Red Sox nation.

00:02:58 And dare I say, softened the efforts made by team parameters known as Henry and

00:03:04 the Fenway Sports Group.

00:03:05 So I feel 100%.

00:03:07 >> He's completely correct too.

00:03:10 I mean, I take it sitting down, sitting up, however you wanna say it.

00:03:12 But I mean, that's what we do here, right?

00:03:14 That's why we're on this pod.

00:03:16 That's why we're gonna go do this mock draft.

00:03:17 We make mountains out of molehills on just about everything,

00:03:20 just like we will with the Patriots coming draft.

00:03:22 So yeah, I thought that was a good quote.

00:03:25 >> It's a great quote.

00:03:26 And wouldn't you guys both agree that it's the Patriots who get it much more and

00:03:30 much harder now than the Red Sox do?

00:03:32 Like the Sox, we forgive a little bit because we know there's an issue with

00:03:36 ownership, and yeah, they haven't won a lot.

00:03:38 And I know the Pats have won a lot, but

00:03:39 it feels like the expectations for the Patriots are that much higher.

00:03:43 Even now with rookie coach, new general manager/director of scouting and

00:03:48 everything else.

00:03:49 >> I'd say there's more apathy towards the Sox.

00:03:51 The Pats are just perpetual anger, right?

00:03:54 Like, playoff season with a rookie quarterback.

00:03:57 You go eight, nine, no, okay, Matt Patricio is the issue.

00:03:59 He's out the window.

00:04:00 Four at 13.

00:04:01 And there's a new head coach who is learning on the fly with the media.

00:04:05 The crafts are now under fire constantly.

00:04:07 That's a separate issue.

00:04:09 But as far as bloodbaths and Mark Dagnall goes, 135 to 100, my friend.

00:04:14 That was a Celtics over his thunder last night, and

00:04:16 thus concludes our Mark Dagnall segment.

00:04:17 Okay, on to the goods, because I gave you guys some homework, which Fitzy by now

00:04:22 knows better, because that is just part of the deal of coming on the Pats

00:04:24 Interference podcast, is you're gonna have work to do before you come on here.

00:04:27 And Patriots mock draft, snake draft will work like this.

00:04:33 Myself, Cadillac, and Fitzy will take turns making selections for

00:04:37 the Patriots at number three, number 34, number 68, and number 104 overall.

00:04:43 Those are their picks in the first, second, and third, and fourth rounds.

00:04:46 At each pick, we will either be able to select a player, trade up or trade down.

00:04:51 However, if you are going second or third in this particular round,

00:04:55 say the first round, and Cadillac goes first, and he takes Drake May,

00:04:58 and it's my turn, I can't take Drake May.

00:05:00 I need to take somebody else, trade up or trade down.

00:05:03 Then the last person who goes, in this instance Fitzy,

00:05:05 will make the third selection at number three, and

00:05:07 this is the snake part of the draft.

00:05:09 Will then lead us off by making the first move in the second round.

00:05:13 And then we'll go back to me, and then to Cadillac to finish the second round.

00:05:17 There is one catch, however.

00:05:18 If, let's say, I wanna build this big, fancy trade at number three,

00:05:22 where the Patriots go up or they go down, and Cadillac and

00:05:25 Fitzy being the opposing GM in this scenario, go that trade sucks.

00:05:29 I can't make it, I have to make a pick instead.

00:05:31 They have veto power, and that spices up our Patriots mock draft, snake draft.

00:05:36 You do not have to make trades, we can take players or do whatever we want.

00:05:39 The point of this exercise, A, is cuz it's fun and it's gimmicky, and look,

00:05:42 it's early April, it's early season.

00:05:44 But secondarily, it's to lay out maximum options for

00:05:48 the Patriots at all of these picks as we see it right now.

00:05:51 Again, three weeks away from the draft, what are their best options?

00:05:53 If option A is off the table, what's option B?

00:05:56 And then option C.

00:05:57 Fellas, are you ready?

00:05:59 >> Born ready, baby.

00:06:01 >> Good, well, Cadillac better be ready cuz he's going first.

00:06:04 So the Patriots are up at number three overall.

00:06:07 You have every player that is a reasonable expectation to go at this pick.

00:06:13 We're using the consensus board at nflmockdraftdatabase.com.

00:06:17 And if you're building a trade,

00:06:18 shout out our friend Rich Hilt and his modern trade value chart.

00:06:21 So you have the third pick, all options on the table reasonably.

00:06:24 What are you doing at number three, Mike Cadillac?

00:06:26 >> I have, without question, the easiest pick of the entire draft.

00:06:31 First overall, no one jumping down my throat for

00:06:35 trades because we just stick and we pick Drake May from the University of

00:06:39 North Carolina.

00:06:40 He fits what they wanna do on offense with Alex Van Pelt's system.

00:06:44 He's not smaller scrawny like Jaden Daniels is, so

00:06:47 he doesn't have to worry about the weather.

00:06:49 He comes in and maybe some growing pains behind Jacoby Percet, but

00:06:54 that's the pick, it's Drake May.

00:06:56 I think it's a slam dunk.

00:06:57 I think I would take him at number two.

00:06:59 I would maybe even consider if I'm the Patriots taking him at number one.

00:07:02 I think he's that good of a prospect.

00:07:04 So give me Drake May, UNC, sign, seal, delivered, bring him home.

00:07:09 >> So you're saying the Bears need to send Keenan Allen back to Chapel Hill to go

00:07:13 hang out with him for an afternoon, check him out, is that what you're saying?

00:07:15 >> Exactly, yeah.

00:07:16 >> To the Williams?

00:07:16 Okay. >> Yeah.

00:07:17 >> Wow, wow.

00:07:18 What's our, cuz I think this is now almost becoming an inevitability the same way

00:07:24 Caleb Williams to the Bears is an inevitability.

00:07:26 He takes one visit, has dinner in Chicago, goes home, that's that.

00:07:30 So we have to start getting behind this.

00:07:33 He's probably gonna wear 10, so that means our Mac Jones jerseys and

00:07:36 Garoppolos can get taped over, recycled, reused, etc.

00:07:39 What are we gonna call him?

00:07:42 Callahan, you have to have a lot of catchy headlines.

00:07:44 We obviously have to have Nito nicknames for the radio, for

00:07:47 the blog, and the socials as well.

00:07:49 Are we going Drake the Snake?

00:07:50 Is it the Matriot?

00:07:51 Is it Mayday?

00:07:53 Come what may.

00:07:54 >> What I brought to the table today, Fitzy, was the whole gimmick,

00:07:57 the whole idea of the Snake draft mock draft.

00:07:59 So I'm just gonna take the rest of today off.

00:08:01 I don't have anything for you in this way.

00:08:03 But I like the Matriot, I've seen you use that before.

00:08:06 The first thought that I had, because again, I age, I feel like twice as fast as

00:08:10 everyone else at this point, is the love the Drake,

00:08:14 hate the Drake line from all of those Seinfeld episodes.

00:08:17 >> Right. >> So I just wanna love the Drake.

00:08:19 I want everyone to love the Drake.

00:08:20 If he ends up becoming the pick, it still could very well be Jaden Daniels or

00:08:23 Adam Schefter.

00:08:23 Apparently on his podcast yesterday, he said it looks like Jaden Daniels.

00:08:26 Signs are pointing to Daniels at two and Drake May, possibly at three.

00:08:30 So I don't know, I feel like we got time.

00:08:33 >> Here's the other one that me and Andy Hart threw out yesterday on the six

00:08:37 rings of football things.

00:08:38 The Maniacs are like his fan club, the fan base.

00:08:42 But when you have the banner in the corner of the end zone that's hanging down,

00:08:46 it's like these are the Maniacs or something.

00:08:48 So that's another one to keep in mind as we inch closer to draft day.

00:08:51 >> Yeah. >> That's good, that's good.

00:08:53 >> I like it, I like it, that's pretty good.

00:08:54 You can't get enough of them.

00:08:55 You're gonna steal all these for the back page of the Herald too.

00:08:59 He gets absolutely drubbed like seven sacks against the Jets.

00:09:02 It'll be like Patty Drake.

00:09:03 >> Yeah. >> Patriots rookie pounded into

00:09:05 submission as Jets thrive.

00:09:08 I get it. >> Can't have any of that though.

00:09:09 >> [LAUGH] >> Are you sad also to be done with

00:09:12 the era where every single Jets game for the last five, six years was just,

00:09:17 they haven't won.

00:09:19 The Jets have not beaten the Patriots since Obama was in office.

00:09:22 In December 2015 was the last Jets win over the Patriots.

00:09:26 And now that era has ended because of some snowy mishap of a football game that

00:09:29 happened in January.

00:09:31 >> I really wasn't even a football game.

00:09:33 It wasn't.

00:09:34 It was such a sad end to both the season.

00:09:37 Well, that season couldn't end quickly enough in the Belichick era as well.

00:09:40 And that's why I've been banging the drum that should Bill Belichick accept

00:09:44 the invitation from the Patriots and show up at 6/12/24 for

00:09:48 Tom Brady Hall of Fame Day.

00:09:49 He will get the do, the adulation and the love and

00:09:54 the five minute standing ovation he so richly and roundly deserve.

00:09:57 But obviously couldn't get in the diagonal snow of that craptacular end to

00:10:01 a shitty season.

00:10:02 >> Yeah, if we couldn't complicate Brady and Belichick's relationship anymore.

00:10:07 Hey Bill, please crash this one day we've carved out for

00:10:10 Tom and get just as loud of an applause.

00:10:12 How do you feel about that?

00:10:14 >> Okay, so I know we talk a lot about the draft in this podcast.

00:10:16 It's a football podcast.

00:10:17 It's a Patriots podcast.

00:10:18 What else are we gonna do until April 25th?

00:10:21 Well, let me tell you soon enough, we are gonna turn our attention to the Celtics

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00:11:09 >> Moving on to the future.

00:11:10 >> I mocked that.

00:11:11 >> Drake May is quote unquote off the table.

00:11:13 The Patriots still picking three.

00:11:14 Their plan B in your eyes, Fitzzie, is what?

00:11:16 >> Boy, I can't wait.

00:11:19 The best part is right now I can't hear the jeers, sneers,

00:11:22 boos and anger that would come with what I'm about to do.

00:11:27 But looks like the card is in and the New England Patriots will be trading

00:11:33 back from third overall, accepting an offer from the Minnesota Vikings,

00:11:39 who scold all the way up to number three to take their quarterback of the future

00:11:43 to work with Kevin O'Connell and Josh McCown.

00:11:46 I as GM of the Patriots now accept 11-23 Minnesota's first round pick in 2025,

00:11:53 believing that to be commensurate value for the pick.

00:11:57 You guys know I am in it for the long game as well.

00:12:00 I still think there's a way that you can build the team to be competitive and

00:12:03 entertaining this year.

00:12:05 And also add prospects and blue chips to build this team to be competitive for

00:12:09 the next five and ten years.

00:12:10 So I'm trading back to 11 and 23 and

00:12:14 with the 11th overall pick in the 2024 NFL first round.

00:12:18 I take out of, you ready for this?

00:12:22 Penn State, give me Olufesanu offense tackle because you know what?

00:12:28 I'm going to Harbaugh style baby.

00:12:30 You win big games with big men in big trenches.

00:12:33 >> That's inspiring.

00:12:36 And how much did that quote move you?

00:12:38 You're like, have I just been watching football wrong the whole time that I've

00:12:41 been watching the ball as opposed to all of the giant men on the line being like,

00:12:45 if they're good, nothing else matters because everyone's relying on them.

00:12:48 And they're relying on no one when he said that at the owners meeting two weeks

00:12:51 ago. >> Right, it was outstanding.

00:12:54 He's such a weirdo, I love it.

00:12:56 I absolutely love it.

00:12:59 I mean, he's gonna go chalk, he's gonna take a tackle,

00:13:02 he's gonna take Blake Corum, he's gonna take Zach Zinter.

00:13:04 He's gonna rebuild Michigan in Los Angeles.

00:13:07 And there'll be a tough out in every game.

00:13:10 And if the Patriots are gonna build toughness and they're gonna have depth,

00:13:13 we all agree, I believe, that the Patriots need to, in some order,

00:13:17 get a quarterback, a wide receiver, one, and a left tackle.

00:13:20 And I believe that by pick 34, the New England Patriots can achieve all three of

00:13:24 those things and not just grab gimmicks or

00:13:28 desperate reaches so as to appease fan base and ownership that need all three.

00:13:32 >> Okay.

00:13:33 >> And as much as I wanted to play the stingy general manager in this situation,

00:13:39 that was gonna be my trade if I didn't get Drake May.

00:13:42 But to a tee, 11-23 in the 2025 fifth, or the 2025 first, rather.

00:13:48 So I'm all for it, I think that's the perfect compensation too.

00:13:51 >> All right. >> So I disagree vehemently with both

00:13:55 of you.

00:13:56 >> [LAUGH] >> Okay.

00:13:57 >> I see this trade a lot because Minnesota's got two first round picks.

00:14:02 They seem like they're moving up for a quarterback.

00:14:04 There's just this natural progression to where could they go to get a quarterback,

00:14:06 number three.

00:14:07 And I look at this and go, I'm not,

00:14:09 cuz basically you're not getting three first round picks, it's two first round

00:14:13 picks, one of which will be late in this round, and then another will be TBD next

00:14:17 year, you're moving back eight spots in this scenario.

00:14:21 Understanding what the Cardinals gave up to move up nine spots, or excuse me,

00:14:24 the Texans did with the Cardinals, from 12 to three last year, not for

00:14:28 a quarterback, but for Will Anderson, getting a second, a first, a future third.

00:14:34 I need more, because this is for a quarterback.

00:14:36 This is where the drop off is, unless you're in love with JJ McCarthy.

00:14:39 So I had a trade ready to go, but as we just detailed at the start,

00:14:43 because I now pick third, I cannot take Drake May.

00:14:46 And I cannot trade back, because these are the options, as we've laid out,

00:14:49 that have already been taken in the first round of this mock draft-snake draft.

00:14:52 What I can do is either pick a player at number three,

00:14:55 which Jane Daniels feels like a cop out, I'm not gonna do that.

00:14:57 Or I can trade up, and to be clear, if I was gonna trade back,

00:15:02 I had this deal outlined, from three to six with the Giants,

00:15:05 I get a future first round pick, because I know what you're coming up for.

00:15:09 You're washing your hands of Danny Dimes, you're cashing in,

00:15:11 you're trying to find Drake the dollar to get him at number three.

00:15:15 I want your second round pick this year and a fourth round pick.

00:15:17 So a future first, a second, and a fourth.

00:15:19 And instead, I'm gonna move up, fellas.

00:15:22 I'm calling- >> Wow.

00:15:24 >> And I'm getting Jane Daniels, which again, to be clear,

00:15:27 if you were trying to follow this in a traditional, sensical way,

00:15:31 you're going to hate the rest of the episode.

00:15:33 Cuz the point of this is not to have an actual mock draft.

00:15:35 >> We all have abject mock draft fatigue at this point.

00:15:39 I can't think of any more of these, I'd love to move with the Giants,

00:15:42 maybe trade back with the Vikings.

00:15:43 Maybe pick third overall, maybe trade up to the first over.

00:15:46 Because you know why, Andrew?

00:15:47 We've been all doing the same column, blog, podcast, and

00:15:50 radio show since freaking November because the team sucked so bad last year.

00:15:55 >> And there's still almost a month till the day, it does get exciting.

00:15:58 And that's why this is super fun, so yeah, go for it, go trade up.

00:16:00 >> Okay, so again, off the table, Drake May, I cannot take Drake May.

00:16:04 I cannot trade back, even if I really like my deal with the Giants,

00:16:06 which is as much as I can get similar compensation, not drop back that far.

00:16:11 But still get a Malik neighbors, Roma, Jundze or Joe, all in addition to three,

00:16:15 maybe four quarterbacks to go.

00:16:17 Because I think those guys are elite blue chip top tier players.

00:16:20 And I like Olu, don't get me wrong, but that's the sweet spot.

00:16:24 Still get a player deserving of the top five, top ten, and

00:16:27 add a bunch of extra draft capital.

00:16:28 But in this instance, I can't do that.

00:16:30 So I move up to Washington, and I give them a third, and

00:16:33 I give them a future fourth.

00:16:35 And I say, here you go, you clearly like Drake May and

00:16:38 Jaden Daniels because we're on the phone.

00:16:40 I like one more than the other.

00:16:41 In this instance, it's Jaden Daniels, who I have said I like Drake May more.

00:16:45 But this is a guy who I spoke with an executive this week who just says, look,

00:16:49 we talk about the speed, we time the speed.

00:16:51 It is terrifying on the field.

00:16:53 That is a baked in plan B for any play that goes wrong.

00:16:57 The issue of course is the Patriots need to protect him, but

00:16:59 we have more picks, we have more decisions.

00:17:01 It seemed like there were shock that set in when I move up to Washington here.

00:17:04 Any other further thoughts before we go to round two?

00:17:07 >> No, I just, the one thing, I don't wonder about the whole,

00:17:11 this guy, he runs into too many sacks.

00:17:13 He takes such hard hits, he was playing a college game.

00:17:16 He's gonna understand that A, he is the asset for whatever franchise takes him.

00:17:20 And B, you can't RG3 yourself into oblivion and miss out on that second deal.

00:17:27 It's like the tragedy of Mac Jones for getting mishandled and for

00:17:31 RG3 for just getting abused and abused and put away, wet and broken.

00:17:35 I think he's gonna be terrific.

00:17:39 Between the two, I think I've grown to like Drake May a little bit more over

00:17:43 Jaden Daniels, but make no mistake.

00:17:44 If the simulation and the settings are perfect,

00:17:47 Jaden Daniels can F some S up real good.

00:17:50 He's a, I mean, you don't get 50 touchdowns in the SEC by accident.

00:17:54 >> I feel like Jaden Daniels is all of a sudden getting like the short end of

00:17:57 the stick here where everyone loved him and we fell in love with him because it

00:18:00 felt like he was gonna be a patriot.

00:18:01 And then all of a sudden it turned to Drake May, so everyone loves May more.

00:18:04 And then now we're gonna end up with Daniels and

00:18:05 people are gonna be disappointed where he's a really good football player.

00:18:08 Like this is a three quarterback class at the top.

00:18:11 So realistically, the Patriots in a pretty good spot at the reso yeah,

00:18:15 I like treading up for Daniels just as much as I like taking.

00:18:18 >> Yeah, he's exceptionally accurate.

00:18:20 He layers the ball to all levels of the field.

00:18:22 I mentioned the speed cuz it's obvious but I think it just deserves reiterating.

00:18:25 Like he's a guy who's run a post style offense, plenty of reps in there,

00:18:28 just needs to protect himself.

00:18:30 All right, and learn to extend plays rather than just throw or scramble,

00:18:34 which was his MO at LSU where he only happened to win the highest trophy.

00:18:37 And as you said, 50 scored 50 touchdowns.

00:18:38 So still an excellent prospect.

00:18:40 It feels like nationally, everyone has fallen off on Drake May.

00:18:44 Locally, the love for him has grown and it's been flipped for Jaden Daniels.

00:18:48 I just don't want folks listening to this podcast to forget.

00:18:51 He's freaking outstanding and that's probably why he's gonna go number two.

00:18:54 But in this instance, he goes number two and he's a New England Patriot.

00:18:56 All right, at number 34, I'm gonna keep this simple.

00:18:58 Ladd McConkie comes straight on down.

00:19:01 He is six foot, he is fast, he is quick, he is sure handed.

00:19:04 You're not gonna get the number one here but

00:19:07 as far as the best players available, look, I think he's right up there.

00:19:10 I consider an offensive tackle, talked a lot about Jordan Morgan's supposedly

00:19:14 short arms earlier this week with Doug Kite.

00:19:16 I'm getting the receiver.

00:19:18 He's not going to be Edelman.

00:19:19 He's not going to be Welker.

00:19:21 He doesn't even have the same playing style.

00:19:23 But he will sell out his jersey because folks will think that before they see him

00:19:27 in training camp and his name is freaking Ladd McConkie.

00:19:31 >> It's a McConkie.

00:19:34 If you know football, you know McConkie is legacy.

00:19:37 I don't even know what his relation to Phil McConkie is.

00:19:40 It doesn't matter.

00:19:40 Phil McConkie had A, one of the greatest names of all time and B,

00:19:43 one of the five greatest mustaches in the history of the NFL as well.

00:19:46 And there's giants to Patriots to Belichick legacy there.

00:19:49 Every time I hear his name, I just, I always like, that's me boy, Ladd McConkie.

00:19:54 I just want him, I do.

00:19:56 I just love the way he plays.

00:19:58 He's quick, he's strong.

00:20:01 Watch the game tape, the tape don't lie.

00:20:06 And whenever I saw at the Underwear Olympics,

00:20:08 when I saw him at the combine do that.

00:20:10 I don't know what the name of that drill is guys, where you catch it,

00:20:13 you turn, you catch it on the sidelines.

00:20:16 And then the receivers run across the field and they have to look both ways.

00:20:19 >> Yeah, receiving.

00:20:20 >> He ran it like he was in traction.

00:20:24 He moved like he's actually on skates, like he was on rails.

00:20:29 The dude is so fluid, so quick.

00:20:32 I think any team he goes to, and I don't think he's gonna be there at 34 Callahan.

00:20:36 I don't think he makes it past 32 at the Chiefs because his rookie season,

00:20:41 he could possibly catch 110 balls for the Chiefs.

00:20:45 He may go to Buffalo early,

00:20:46 because now that Buffalo is in the wide receiver market.

00:20:49 And that's one of the fallouts of the Steph Diggs trade, like, good,

00:20:52 we don't have to worry about facing Steph Diggs twice a year.

00:20:55 Like, yeah, well now Buffalo is also either gonna take McConkie or

00:20:58 Adonai Mitchell or whoever else the Patriots may have their eyes on.

00:21:01 For a wide receiver well before you guys get there.

00:21:04 So just one of those little ancillary details.

00:21:05 >> Yeah, at this point- >> To the big Steph Diggs deal.

00:21:08 >> No, you're right with the Diggs deal.

00:21:09 There could be ten receivers now that go in the first round.

00:21:12 But I love McConkie too.

00:21:13 I think I wrote something for this morning actually for

00:21:16 wei.com about how the Patriots need to go get a number one wide receiver.

00:21:20 Because of what they've had in the past, it's been so bad and so average.

00:21:24 Like, there was something with their yards of separation last season where

00:21:28 three of their receivers were in the bottom five in a given week.

00:21:33 And it's like, Ladd McConkie immediately gets off the ball.

00:21:36 Quick, separator, he's just a stud.

00:21:38 And you're right, Callahan too, he's not just a shifty slot guy.

00:21:41 He can play on the outside.

00:21:43 He can get down the field.

00:21:44 He does it all, and he is gonna be a very good player.

00:21:47 And I'm with Fitzy, I don't think he probably will be there at 34.

00:21:51 But since it's your podcast,

00:21:52 I guess we can give it to you that he's gonna be there, so.

00:21:54 >> Well, a couple of things on Ladd McConkie, because I think it deserves his

00:21:57 driving home and then we'll get to Fitzy's pick.

00:22:00 Is he the legit six foot?

00:22:02 This is not all of the guys that my girlfriends swipe and

00:22:06 see six foot and go, he's at least 5'10" at best.

00:22:09 He's not rounding up here.

00:22:10 We all measured him, saw him measuring at the end of a comment.

00:22:13 That's what he is.

00:22:14 Secondarily, he has, at times when you watch him work against zone coverage,

00:22:19 have the field mapped out in his head as he's running over the middle.

00:22:22 Where he'll catch a ball on kind of an over route and stop, or a hook.

00:22:27 And then understand, I need to turn the other way because the hook defender or

00:22:31 the single highest safety is closing down on me.

00:22:34 Coming from a certain angle and I'm gonna pull away from him.

00:22:36 This is in the process before he stops, makes a catch and turns away.

00:22:39 That's the stuff that gets you not only just a fast start in year one, but

00:22:44 sustains your career because you're avoiding injury and you understand,

00:22:48 I have all these tools, but which one do I need to use now?

00:22:51 Now granted, he was injured a fair amount at Georgia and that's a real issue.

00:22:55 But I think those are things that the Patriots can kind of massage a bit,

00:22:58 as they have with other players, even recently during these terrible seasons.

00:23:01 All right, so Lampakaki is off the board.

00:23:03 You can trade up, you can trade down, you can take any other player.

00:23:06 What are you doing at number 34 for the Patriots?

00:23:09 >> Do I get to also make pick 23 as well?

00:23:11 >> Yes, yes, please do.

00:23:13 >> Excellent, all right, I got a double picker here.

00:23:15 All right, so with pick 23 in the first round, which I received in my trade

00:23:18 with the Minnesota Vikings, three first round picks in exchange for pick three

00:23:22 overall, fare thee well and good luck, Drake May in Minnesota.

00:23:26 As you scold on your way to fourth place in the NFC North next season.

00:23:30 I am taking somebody that it seems like I am the only big believer in at WEI.

00:23:35 I can't believe I'm in lockstep with of all people, Michael Felger on this one.

00:23:41 I know we the diametrically opposed opposites of Boston sports media, but

00:23:45 I love him for that and he's great at what he does.

00:23:47 No hate, all love and celebration here.

00:23:49 23rd overall, making Mike on Wenu your most important tackle on the New England

00:23:55 Patriots, putting a core for back at the right tackle spot for the time being.

00:24:00 And we'll see what we do with all of Shana in the future to come.

00:24:03 Give me Michael Pennix Jr.

00:24:05 Out of the University of Washington.

00:24:07 I sorry guys like I've Stroud showed us in the college football semifinal last

00:24:13 year that he could ball out and we should have believed it.

00:24:15 And in the college football semifinal this year, even if it was a big 12 defense,

00:24:19 you don't throw for 70% completion, 430 yards and two touchdowns.

00:24:24 And also scamper for a bunch as well.

00:24:26 Lighting up the scoreboard with three potential first or

00:24:29 second round wide receivers to come with Jalen poke,

00:24:31 McMillan obviously in Roma dunze by accident.

00:24:34 This guy can hit the medicals have checked out for

00:24:37 540 at his pro day can throw it over the mountains, 37 inch vertical.

00:24:42 And he's just an at he's an athlete and I yeah, he needs to learn some touch.

00:24:46 Yes, obviously it's a risk.

00:24:47 The last time the Patriots took someone with two ACLs, it was Dominique Easley and

00:24:51 we saw the way that that went with him and his dogs.

00:24:53 I like I've been a fan for a long time and I again, I'm stacking value and

00:24:58 I think this kid can play in the NFL.

00:25:00 >> Kelly.

00:25:03 >> Yeah, I mean, I think at this point I wonder if he's even there at 23.

00:25:08 I'm a fan too and I saw there was a rap sheet report today that said he could go

00:25:12 in the first half of the first round and really right now the only knock.

00:25:16 Like you mentioned fits he is the injuries like he does it all.

00:25:20 He's he has a rocket arm.

00:25:21 He's incredibly accurate.

00:25:22 He showed off the speed.

00:25:24 And I look at him too as my call it.

00:25:26 I mean fifth quarterback, but really it's it's such an important position that these

00:25:30 guys can go off.

00:25:32 We saw Matt Jones be the fifth quarterback at number 15, right?

00:25:35 And so I like the panic to pick.

00:25:37 I could see it at 23.

00:25:39 I could also see it at 34 if they get there.

00:25:41 And if I didn't take Drake May already, he was gonna be on the board for

00:25:44 me at 34.

00:25:45 So I like it too.

00:25:46 He's a really good player.

00:25:48 >> And Callahan, I want to let me just add that if you know if Elliot Wolf and

00:25:52 the Highsmith and everyone are getting Intel that maybe that maybe just maybe he

00:25:57 could be gone by the middle of the first round,

00:25:59 then I would be completely comfortable flip flopping these picks.

00:26:01 I would take panics at 11 and then I'd be okay with like a Marius Mims or

00:26:06 Guyton out of out of Oklahoma at 23.

00:26:09 Either way, I see what about your guy Bo Nix.

00:26:12 Bo Nix at 11.

00:26:13 You didn't think you didn't want to take Bo Nix at 11.

00:26:15 I know that now he's my boy.

00:26:18 If we choose the chaos theory and we go Marvin Harrison Jr.

00:26:21 Three and Bo Nix at 34, that's the key plan.

00:26:24 Okay, so panics.

00:26:27 Look, you're right.

00:26:28 Absolutely showed out in the semifinal against Texas.

00:26:30 There's a huge difference between that Texas defense and

00:26:33 what Georgia had when CJ Stratton almost knocked him off the year before.

00:26:37 And I think as a player, there's issues a little bit with the delivery.

00:26:42 Even though he was an injury to Washington, he still got a slider frame.

00:26:45 And the issues extending plays, what are you gonna do feeling pressure, right?

00:26:49 How much can you create on your own,

00:26:50 which is really the separating characteristic of the modern quarterback.

00:26:53 Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Jaylen Hurts to an extent, Joe Burrow a little bit.

00:26:58 Like make the indefensible play after the defense has had the perfect coverage or

00:27:03 immediate pass rush.

00:27:04 I think panics lacks there compared to Jane Daniels and

00:27:07 Drake Maynes, certainly Caleb Williams.

00:27:09 The health concerns, I'm with you guys.

00:27:10 Like how many more seasons do we need to go and say, yeah,

00:27:14 he's played another whole season.

00:27:15 What do you want?

00:27:16 I don't think last year is probably representative of what he'll do in

00:27:19 the NFL, again, given the surrounding talent.

00:27:22 Which people wanna knock Jane Daniels, I understand that.

00:27:24 But I just think it was a perfect situation.

00:27:27 It was an excellent team.

00:27:28 He played great.

00:27:29 It's just I think he's rightfully a tier below these guys.

00:27:31 But look, if you have 23 and you got your left tackle, might as well top.

00:27:35 All right, Kevin, do you have a trade?

00:27:36 Cuz we have not had any chance to beat, I guess you guys could have, or

00:27:39 we could have vetoed earlier.

00:27:40 Are we gonna- >> I still get to sneak in 34 though,

00:27:43 I never snuck in 34.

00:27:44 That was my extra base.

00:27:45 >> I'm gonna get you out of here in like 15 minutes.

00:27:47 >> I know, no, it's all good, no rush, all good.

00:27:50 I would like to, I'll make this one real quick,

00:27:53 the Patriots finally get a chance here at 34th overall.

00:27:56 I was very tempted, believe it or not, to again, choose chaos and

00:28:00 make a very unpopular pick.

00:28:01 I love that Braden Fisk kid, the defensive lineman out of Florida State.

00:28:06 He was dynamite at the combine, and I think he's gonna be wildly disruptive.

00:28:12 He may jump up to the top of somebody's second round.

00:28:14 And why not? Again, it's sort of like,

00:28:16 that's why I would have gone for LeGarrius Sneed and not free agency, but

00:28:19 I would have made the trade.

00:28:20 It's like, you get one of the top five cornerbacks in the NFL to come on.

00:28:25 He's worth $19 million a year and you've got the money.

00:28:27 I think the Patriots completely whiffed it, but I'm not passing up a chance to get

00:28:32 my Debo Samuel after five years ago, the Patriots whiffed on getting their Debo

00:28:36 Samuel, 34th overall.

00:28:37 It's a bit of a reach.

00:28:39 Give me Xavier Leguette out of the University of South Carolina.

00:28:43 Hopefully he becomes your true wide receiver one.

00:28:45 Kid's a natural born playmaker.

00:28:47 >> Catholic just made the face of shit.

00:28:50 I have to scratch off my top.

00:28:51 >> Yeah, so all right.

00:28:53 So he was actually, he was option two, because I need to clarify.

00:28:57 Can I trade my pick for a current player?

00:29:00 >> Yeah.

00:29:03 >> All right.

00:29:04 >> Then I am trading.

00:29:05 >> We'll see who the player is.

00:29:07 >> Okay.

00:29:08 >> Pick 34 for Brandon Iuke from the San Francisco 49ers.

00:29:13 I want him, I want to pay him.

00:29:16 Give me Brandon Iuke for pick 34, straight up, nothing added.

00:29:19 You know what? I'll negotiate.

00:29:20 If you guys say no, I'll even throw in a future pick if I have to, but

00:29:24 I want Brandon Iuke.

00:29:24 >> So there will be no negotiation.

00:29:25 There will be one question from me and then Fitzzie and

00:29:28 I are gonna confirm in front of your face and render a decision.

00:29:31 >> Okay. >> Is a second round pick all that you

00:29:33 want to offer for Brandon Iuke?

00:29:38 >> All right, fine, I'll throw in a 2025 fourth.

00:29:43 That's the offer.

00:29:45 >> I think- >> I'm saying no.

00:29:48 >> I think, really, I was gonna say you could put that to the Callahan trade

00:29:51 machine.

00:29:52 Here's the thing, I think the 49ers say- >> You can't afford them.

00:29:54 John Lynch, you can't afford them.

00:29:55 You have too many players on that payroll.

00:29:57 >> No, you're right, but here's the thing.

00:29:59 Between Debo Samuel and Brandon Iuke, I think they trade Debo.

00:30:04 Because I think Debo is more susceptible to injuries.

00:30:07 I think Iuke has blossomed and shown them exactly why they need him.

00:30:12 And while you don't exactly find, or Debo's don't grow on trees,

00:30:15 even though I just said I wanted to find the next Debo Samuel with Xavier Leguette.

00:30:19 I think they would move on from Debo first.

00:30:21 I'm keeping Iuke from them.

00:30:24 >> He's got more tread in his tires too, but he's more expensive, so

00:30:27 the cost is gonna be a little bit lower than Iuke.

00:30:29 I just think the Niners are going, give us a first round pick or that's it.

00:30:33 Like it's the Jimmy G trade talks from three years ago.

00:30:36 It was, I'm trying to remember the pick that they got.

00:30:39 It took Kinlaw, Javon Kinlaw a couple years ago to South Carolina to replace

00:30:41 their defense tackle, DeForest Buckner.

00:30:43 They trade DeForest Buckner, get a first round pick, in return take Kinlaw.

00:30:47 I think they look at this and go, we really wanna keep him.

00:30:49 We'll jump through all of the salary caps gymnastics.

00:30:52 So apologies, you've been vetoed.

00:30:55 But it's not a bad idea.

00:30:57 I just think if the Patriots are gonna get him for 34,

00:31:00 the Chiefs are like, well, we have 32.

00:31:02 Here you go.

00:31:04 >> Yeah.

00:31:05 >> My God. >> All right, shut down.

00:31:06 >> Can you imagine him there?

00:31:07 Holy smokes. >> No, that would stink.

00:31:09 All right, then I'm going boring.

00:31:11 I'm going basic.

00:31:12 Give me my anchor at left tackle.

00:31:14 Give me Jordan Morgan.

00:31:15 I don't care about the arms, like you said.

00:31:17 Great player, Arizona, and just put him, he's my left tackle.

00:31:22 Maybe to start the season, maybe we have to reel him in and

00:31:25 sort of ease him into the process.

00:31:28 But you have guys here right now for it, but give me Jordan Morgan,

00:31:30 make it basic, protect Drake May for the next ten years.

00:31:33 Also give me Jordan Morgan as the left tackle for pick 34.

00:31:36 >> Thoughts, Vincey?

00:31:38 >> Fine pick, safe pick.

00:31:41 I mean- >> It would have been a lot better if it

00:31:42 was Brandon Ayoub, I guess, but I'll take Jordan Morgan.

00:31:45 >> [LAUGH] So I like the pick, I think it's fine.

00:31:48 I think Jordan Morgan, again, said earlier this week,

00:31:51 I think his tape coming off an ACL last year was not as good as it could have been,

00:31:56 obviously, without the injury.

00:31:57 So we are looking for projecting here in 2024.

00:32:00 You take the injury into account, but if you bump up that film a little bit,

00:32:03 he's an early second round pick who probably goes in the first now.

00:32:06 And when you look specifically at their game against UCLA,

00:32:10 Lacey Latu, UCLA Edge Defender,

00:32:12 who is an analytics darling, gonna go in the middle of the first round.

00:32:15 He held his own pretty well, anchoring against him,

00:32:18 which you need to with those short arms.

00:32:20 Again, that's a small sample, but it's an excellent player as far as his draft

00:32:24 class goes, and I think it's a fine pick.

00:32:26 All right, you lead us off, number 68, who you got?

00:32:29 >> All right, so there is a lot of volatility with this guy as far as where

00:32:34 he lands.

00:32:35 So am I gonna be able to get Jalen Polk out of Washington and pick 68, fellas?

00:32:41 >> Yeah. >> Okay.

00:32:42 >> I feel like one of the two Washington receivers is gonna be available at 68.

00:32:48 >> All right. >> And I like them both.

00:32:50 >> All right, then I'm gonna go with the Polk Jalen.

00:32:52 I'm gonna go Jalen Polk, outside receiver, go up and get it guy.

00:32:57 Can do a lot of things, but was one of the two 1,000 yard receivers

00:33:01 with Michael Penix Jr. at Washington this season.

00:33:04 I wasn't able to get my guy at 34, my future number one in Brandon Iuk.

00:33:08 So I take a shot at 68 with Jalen Polk.

00:33:11 Again, good player, a guy who can change your offense probably almost instantly,

00:33:15 because you just need it with this team.

00:33:17 There's a lot of twos and threes, but give me a guy who can be a future one.

00:33:20 So Jalen Polk is pick 68.

00:33:22 >> All right, solid pick, solid pick, I hope.

00:33:27 I mean, listen, time may tell that all of these quarterbacks,

00:33:31 except for Drake May, benefited from having a load of pro receivers.

00:33:36 You could have three guys go from Washington within the first two to

00:33:40 three rounds as well.

00:33:41 You got at least two going from LSU as well.

00:33:44 So yeah, you don't go wrong either way with me.

00:33:48 I mean, it was Jalen McMillan in 2022, it was a Dunzey and Polk in 2023.

00:33:51 So- >> Solid pick.

00:33:53 >> Tell me if I'm wrong about this, because I mentioned it as some people

00:33:56 dock Jayden Daniels and they knock Michael Pennock for having great teammates.

00:34:00 And that's true, people do that.

00:34:02 I think it's bad framing.

00:34:04 It's outside of their control who Washington recruited and

00:34:07 put next to them, right?

00:34:08 >> Yep. >> And if anything,

00:34:09 you're a quarterback, everyone talks about this, your job is to make them better.

00:34:13 So yes, you need to keep that in mind and contextualize all of these evaluations.

00:34:17 Who are you playing with?

00:34:18 Who are you playing against?

00:34:18 What was the weather?

00:34:19 Yada, yada.

00:34:20 Are you injured?

00:34:21 But we can separate that as best we can and

00:34:24 understand that's not a bad thing that you played with great players.

00:34:27 If anything, it tells me how you will benefit and

00:34:29 play when we ideally surround you with great players in the future.

00:34:32 It's just understanding that Drake may probably suck a little bit more than he

00:34:35 should have because his receivers were bad.

00:34:37 And Jayden Daniels won the Heisman running away when he might have just won it

00:34:41 normally had he not been with Malik Navers.

00:34:43 >> Well, you also knock a guy like Mac Jones right at Alabama for

00:34:48 having three studs at the wide receiver position and

00:34:50 then he doesn't translate in the NFL because his talent wasn't as good.

00:34:54 But Joe Burrow had Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase at LSU and

00:34:58 he's still nasty in the NFL, right?

00:35:00 And so it could happen, it could translate with Penix, it might not.

00:35:04 Same thing with Jayden Daniels.

00:35:05 It's a case by case basis, so

00:35:07 I find it hard to completely knock these guys for having talent on their team.

00:35:11 >> It's not easy to isolate all the skill set, right?

00:35:13 Like Joe Burrow has had a better arm, he's more creative,

00:35:15 like he's just better than Mac was relating to pressure.

00:35:18 But the idea of like, well, yeah, of course he was good.

00:35:21 He played with all these great receivers.

00:35:22 Like I don't know, you hang in third and sixth and

00:35:24 SEC had offered in the fourth quarter when you're losing as a favorite and

00:35:28 see how you do and not be down your leg.

00:35:29 These guys held in.

00:35:30 So anyway, number 68, you cannot take Jalen Polk, you can trade up,

00:35:36 you can trade down, you can take another player.

00:35:38 >> This is probably where you're expecting me to grab my guy,

00:35:44 Javon Baker, cuz I am the leader of the Javon Baker Appreciation Society.

00:35:48 I wanna take, but I know he's not gonna be there cuz he's gonna get

00:35:54 overdrafted in the second round by Jim Harbaugh, but you know what the hell with

00:35:59 it, I'm gonna take Blake Corum running back out of the University of Michigan.

00:36:04 >> All right.

00:36:04 >> Just in case, just in case he's there.

00:36:07 Look, you don't score 20 some odd touchdowns and yes,

00:36:10 I understand you ran behind an NFL quality offensive line.

00:36:13 This kid is tough as nails, has a nose for the end zone,

00:36:16 doesn't mind taking a beating at the line of scrimmage,

00:36:18 can still kick it to the outside.

00:36:20 And when you put up as many 225 pound bench presses as the tackle that's gonna go

00:36:25 first overall in the draft, I will take that kind of strength.

00:36:29 That means you're not gonna take any F from the rest of the ASE, so

00:36:33 I would love to see this kid.

00:36:35 >> Anyone can do that with the strength coaches of Michigan.

00:36:37 I mean, anyone can produce with those elite coaches, you know what I mean?

00:36:40 >> [LAUGH]

00:36:41 >> That's how it's gonna be.

00:36:41 >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:43 Yeah, it's cuz he was drinking all that Fairlife milk there with high bar.

00:36:46 >> Yeah. >> I mean, I've got Michigan in the family.

00:36:49 I've watched a kid for years.

00:36:50 I'm a huge fan.

00:36:51 And I would just, I don't know if Ramondre's gonna resign.

00:36:55 I mean, we got Gibson for a couple years, but tell me this, for anyone's like, well,

00:36:59 we got Gibson and Mondre, we got other needs.

00:37:01 How can anyone that just can score the football, that's all I want.

00:37:05 Leguette can score all over the place cuz you can use them in a number of ways at

00:37:08 wide receiver.

00:37:10 Corum you can do a ton with as well.

00:37:11 I need positional versatility.

00:37:13 And Calhan, Catholic, I need people that are just gonna maybe, just maybe keep

00:37:17 opposing defensive coordinators up at night or

00:37:19 at least make them second guess what the Patriots are gonna do.

00:37:23 >> He's just a gamer.

00:37:24 He's just a really good football player.

00:37:25 And that's what you need here.

00:37:26 You need to add talent anywhere you can, good football players.

00:37:29 68, maybe a little high.

00:37:31 But again, you don't know when the run on running backs is gonna start.

00:37:34 So maybe you have to take him at 68.

00:37:37 I'm fine with it.

00:37:37 It's running back is a sneaky need to.

00:37:39 Ramond is going into a contract here.

00:37:42 Gibson is not gonna be a bell cow.

00:37:43 So you need to add to that portion of the roster.

00:37:47 So I like Blake Corum here too.

00:37:48 >> It's a little high for my liking, but I get the love for Blake Corum.

00:37:53 I mean, the contact balance is absurd.

00:37:54 Like you're just not knocking that dude over unless you're bringing all of your

00:37:57 weight all at the same time.

00:37:59 I worry about the tread and his tires.

00:38:01 I want to see a little bit more pass catcher, but

00:38:03 like the measurables are there.

00:38:05 The level of competition, all that different stuff.

00:38:06 But you're not worried about him getting low enough or sticking his nose in and

00:38:10 third and one or at the goal line.

00:38:11 Like he's a pretty well rounded runner.

00:38:13 My pick is going to be the obvious one, Patrick Paul, up and to tackle Houston.

00:38:18 He's a little high cut.

00:38:20 You're banking on the athleticism at this point.

00:38:22 He was not a shutdown pass protector, and

00:38:26 I don't think he's a road grader in the run game.

00:38:28 But there are enough traits here, again,

00:38:30 in the third round where someone's gonna have a hole in their game.

00:38:32 I'm banking Scott Peters gets that dog out of them.

00:38:35 Because again, this is not necessarily Scott Peters pick for

00:38:38 the little that I know about Scott Peters,

00:38:40 who I know was putting his hands on guys in the meeting rooms.

00:38:44 And kind of wrestling with them when they met at the combine, right?

00:38:47 Like, I don't know how Patrick Paul liked that if they met.

00:38:49 But the point is here, develop him, work on that, get the grit in there,

00:38:54 down to down to down.

00:38:55 Because I just think for the guys left, like Blake Fisher was right tackled,

00:38:58 Notre Dame, might be able to play the other side.

00:39:01 He's fine, maybe you can get him in the fourth round.

00:39:03 For me, my picks, and we'll recap here, and

00:39:05 then speed through the fourth round, Jane Daniels, Latt McConkie, Patrick Paul.

00:39:10 Mostly big school guys, I just think it makes too much sense not to take him here.

00:39:14 Any objections?

00:39:15 >> No, that's chalk, man.

00:39:18 That's a solid pick.

00:39:19 I mean, he could turn into a plus level starter, and the Patriots have had a lot

00:39:22 of luck with tackles in the last 20 years.

00:39:24 Going in the second round with a kid from Purdue named Matty Light, and

00:39:27 a kid from Houston by the name of Sebastian Bulma.

00:39:30 So good on you.

00:39:32 All right, I just read down my draft.

00:39:34 Recap, yours, Fitzsimmons, and Kedlec.

00:39:36 >> Okay, I had an 11, Oluf Ashanu, and 23, Michael Penix,

00:39:40 cuz I traded out of third overall.

00:39:42 And I'm still carrying a first into next year, but I don't get to use it today.

00:39:45 34th overall wide receiver, Xavier Leggett,

00:39:47 out of the University of South Carolina, go Cox.

00:39:50 And 68th overall running back, Blake Corum from Michigan, go blue.

00:39:54 >> Pick three, Drake May, chalk as ever.

00:39:58 34, Jordan Morgan tried to get Iuke, the guys didn't let it happen.

00:40:03 And then pick 68, Jalen Polk, wide receiver out of Washington.

00:40:06 So we hit on the top three needs with the top three picks.

00:40:09 >> Excellent, all right, leading off the fourth round,

00:40:11 I have FSU cornerback Jerrion Jones.

00:40:14 He's the guy who's sticking up in man to man.

00:40:15 I think the level of competition is encouraging, measurables are there.

00:40:19 Again, you're talking about fourth round picks.

00:40:20 There are no perfect prospects anywhere, which I think people forget,

00:40:23 especially when we talk about quarterbacks.

00:40:25 And at the top of the draft, but

00:40:27 especially at any other position at the start of day three.

00:40:31 What's interesting to me is how much they might maneuver in this area.

00:40:34 Because it's consensus that the players in the sixth and

00:40:37 seventh rounds are gonna be lower caliber than past years.

00:40:41 Because those players just stayed in college, made more NIL money, and

00:40:44 developed.

00:40:44 So I think the Patriots might make multiple picks here.

00:40:47 If they make one, I would like to see Jerrion Jones a corner at FSU.

00:40:50 >> Cornerbacks, I like it.

00:40:55 >> It's it.

00:40:56 >> All right, I am going to address one final need on the New England Patriots.

00:41:02 It's funny because you would have thought this would have been a position of

00:41:06 great depth.

00:41:06 But you've got one guy on a transition tag who's unhappy.

00:41:10 You've got another great cornerback, a great safety that retired.

00:41:14 I don't know what they're gonna be doing with Marte Mapu.

00:41:16 And as much as I love all of these, bring in the thunder, violence for

00:41:19 breakfast, box safety, linebacker, hybrid type of guys.

00:41:23 I'm gonna need somebody that can just roam the backfield.

00:41:25 So I'm gonna go for some place you don't usually think of for defense.

00:41:29 I'm gonna go with D'Adrian Taylor Demerson, safety out of Texas Tech with pick 102.

00:41:34 Because the Patriots could use a little extra back end help,

00:41:36 something that they didn't address in free agency.

00:41:38 So now we go in the draft.

00:41:39 >> Texas Tech's defensive backs, I don't think have violence for breakfast.

00:41:44 I think they have burnt toast and stare at it and go, this must just be a mirror.

00:41:49 But that's good.

00:41:50 I think it's a point that's been missed.

00:41:52 They need a traditional free safety, someone who can roam back there.

00:41:55 Unlock all of the coverages in there that they have with Devin here for years and

00:41:58 years.

00:41:59 All right, Cadillac, finish this off.

00:42:00 >> Yeah, we're all on the same page as far as the fourth rounder being

00:42:04 a defensive back.

00:42:05 Because cornerback is another sneaky need here.

00:42:07 Yeah, you have Gonzalez on one side.

00:42:09 But things really collapsed last season with the Jack Jones,

00:42:13 JC Jackson stuff.

00:42:14 And then Marcus Jones gets hurt and he's still, you don't know what he is, right?

00:42:19 And so I'm taking another corner and I'm taking Cam Hart out of Notre Dame.

00:42:24 He is 6'2", he is 200 pounds.

00:42:26 You mentioned sticky from your guy, Andrew.

00:42:29 He is the same here in Cam Hart.

00:42:31 He hasn't picked off a ball since 2021.

00:42:33 So a little bit of maybe a red flag, but

00:42:35 also that's just because he's a lockdown corner.

00:42:37 He can play on the outside.

00:42:39 From watching him, his play recognition is phenomenal.

00:42:42 He just has the instincts.

00:42:44 And I think that's just from being a veteran in South Bend for a while.

00:42:48 So I'm taking Cam Hart, cornerback out of Notre Dame.

00:42:50 >> Solid pick.

00:42:52 >> Very nice.

00:42:53 >> All right, we are not gonna go any further because we like to keep our

00:42:56 listeners around here.

00:42:58 If we will go deeper into the fifth and sixth and seventh rounds,

00:43:01 I do wanna wrap up really quickly one bold draft prediction from you both.

00:43:04 It could be related to something we said, completely unrelated.

00:43:07 And then Fitzy make a pitch for Pats and

00:43:09 Pines which I talked about in this podcast, but it's coming up on April 18th.

00:43:13 >> Absolutely, Mike, you go first.

00:43:15 I love your ears are the hottest in pod takes.

00:43:18 >> My bold prediction is something that I tried to do and

00:43:20 I'm still bitter about getting shut down for it.

00:43:22 The Patriots on draft weekend make a trade for

00:43:25 a bona fide number one wide receiver.

00:43:27 Whether it be T Higgins, whether it be Brandon Iuke, they make something happen

00:43:32 and they get the true number one for Drake May that they take with the number three

00:43:36 pick so go get your bona fide number one.

00:43:38 >> I like it in that I think the price came down for

00:43:43 those guys based on the digs trade.

00:43:45 Now, Stephon digs people forget quietly kind of faded in the back end of last

00:43:48 season but like if that's all it took from Houston and there were some swaps in

00:43:51 there but it didn't get to a first round pick it wasn't a clean first round pick.

00:43:55 Like that, that seemed a little bit more reasonable to me today than it did

00:43:59 yesterday.

00:44:00 >> Yep.

00:44:00 Okay, I could party with that.

00:44:03 My my boy does not excite you.

00:44:07 Not yeah, I would love I guess.

00:44:11 When's the last time we had one 2018 Gronk my god and that was not letting

00:44:15 yourself believe you are Richmond, you know, FC Richmond.

00:44:20 Before Ted Lasso got there, it's the hope that kills you.

00:44:23 >> Yeah, I know I need to go tap the believe sign I have hanging over there at

00:44:26 the top of my on the way out of my door as well.

00:44:28 All right, my bold prediction is the New England Patriots realizing

00:44:33 that they lack both offensive line and what offensive line tackle one and

00:44:37 wide receiver one depth trade back into the first round.

00:44:41 They will likely take Drake May 3rd overall and

00:44:44 I think that they're going to identify a guy.

00:44:46 Whether it's a tackle or wide receiver, I can't predict which, but

00:44:49 I think that they end up making two selections in the first round.

00:44:52 They trade 34 overall, maybe mortgage a fourth this year or next year.

00:44:56 To just move up a couple spots and get the guy that they identify as either the wall

00:45:01 or the way on draft night so patch fans may need to stay up very late on April 25th.

00:45:07 And I think she'll walk away very, very happy.

00:45:09 >> That is out of tune music to the newspaper reporter who needs to file a

00:45:15 deadline, but that is sweet, sweet symphony to every other part of me.

00:45:19 Because it just has to happen.

00:45:20 I said this two months ago.

00:45:21 I was like, yeah, this sounds good.

00:45:23 It makes sense.

00:45:24 I get closer and I can't build the trade just yet.

00:45:26 But hey, it's not my job.

00:45:27 This is what they pay Elliott Wolfe much more than I get from Boston Aero to make

00:45:31 these kind of trades.

00:45:32 Go make it Elliott Wolfe, Patrick Stewart, make it happen baby.

00:45:34 Macro, get on the phone.

00:45:36 Ravens at 30.

00:45:37 I like that. I think that's my favorite spot for them.

00:45:39 >> Perfect, perfect.

00:45:40 Thank you.

00:45:41 >> All right, Pats and Pies, April 18th.

00:45:43 It's gonna be down at Vitamin C Brewery.

00:45:44 Fitz will be there.

00:45:45 I will be there.

00:45:45 Another Patriots panel.

00:45:47 Come down, hang out with us, drink beer, ask questions.

00:45:51 All the money goes to Boston Children's Hospital.

00:45:53 What have I missed here for the folks who wanna come down to wave it?

00:45:55 It'll be our second event.

00:45:56 I think this is gonna be the best one yet.

00:45:57 What do you think?

00:45:59 >> I think it's gonna be great.

00:46:00 Last year we had a little bit of a just plain mirthful celebration because we had

00:46:03 a beer release for me and my buddy Georgie after years of making goofy YouTube videos.

00:46:07 And while I still wanna bring the same sort of camaraderie and

00:46:11 light tone to the evening as well.

00:46:14 What happened with our friend and your colleague at the Herald.

00:46:17 We can't fix that and we don't have the brains and

00:46:21 the capacity to put an end to the cowardice of cancer.

00:46:24 But what we are really good at doing is uniting in Patriots Nation to get together,

00:46:28 talk football, drink beers, and

00:46:29 help the heroes that'll hopefully stop things like that from ever happening again.

00:46:33 So you'll have Catholic there, you'll be there, I'll be there.

00:46:37 Hopefully we'll have Giardi, we'll have Nick Cattles, Field Yates from ESPN has

00:46:42 been kind enough to agree to join the party, Doug Kide will obviously be there.

00:46:45 We'll have Greg, Jerry Thornton from Barstool and

00:46:47 hopefully a host of other people.

00:46:49 Just come mill about with us, then we'll do a draft panel.

00:46:52 You get to ask all the questions you want and the answer is no,

00:46:54 we don't know why Malcolm Butler was benched.

00:46:57 But yes, for $20 you get a world class beer and

00:46:59 a great night a week before the draft.

00:47:01 And you can get tickets- >> Yeah, all the money going to a great cause.

00:47:03 Yep, go ahead. >> Yes, indeed,

00:47:04 to help the heroes at Boston Children's.

00:47:06 You can just go to mysocials@fitcgfy for

00:47:09 information on how to purchase tickets, April 18th, 7 PM at Vitamin C.

00:47:13 >> Yeah, and we'll be retweeting this week, next week, leading up to the event.

00:47:17 Tickets are $20, please come hang out, drink beer, talk football.

00:47:20 It'll be one week from the draft.

00:47:21 Right now we are two weeks away from that, fellas, this was outstanding.

00:47:24 Thank you for the first annual Patriot-Fox draft, snake draft.

00:47:27 I think we crossed it, but of course we'll have to wait two years to see how all of

00:47:30 our prospects did.

00:47:32 Fitz, you gotta go, thank you Catholic.

00:47:34 And I'll see you guys soon, all right?

00:47:35 >> Later, thanks for having us.

00:47:36 >> Go Pats, thanks for having us, buddy.

00:47:38 All right, back to the best coast for our male fan of the week.

00:47:41 We bring in Gary Langley from Culver City.

00:47:43 Though Gary, as I was just chatting with off air, comes back east about six weeks.

00:47:47 Danvers native, wife is from Albany.

00:47:49 And the Patriots, wherever he is, are still very much in his heart.

00:47:52 And right now on his mind is the idea of playing the kids,

00:47:55 which we know Elliot Wolfe wants to do.

00:47:57 And Gary, you are the dad of a newborn, congratulations again.

00:48:00 You have also set the record- >> Kids everywhere.

00:48:02 >> Not a newborn?

00:48:03 >> No, kids everywhere.

00:48:04 We're playing the kids, we've got kids.

00:48:06 >> [LAUGH] Yeah, excellent point by you, that's good.

00:48:08 I really should have let off with that, forget the geography.

00:48:11 Let's just get to the most obvious tie in here, dad of a newborn and

00:48:13 the Patriots feel like they're gonna play a lot of the newborns.

00:48:16 But you might have set the record for longest fan email I've ever received.

00:48:21 And I appreciate the thought that went into that.

00:48:23 But this segment is gonna have to still be eight minutes.

00:48:25 And so I said, okay, when we do this segment, we'll pick one.

00:48:28 It revolves around possible juju trade and playing the young kids.

00:48:32 And so there's no real question here.

00:48:34 Let's mix this up.

00:48:35 Why don't you lead off with what was most on the top of your mind as far as this

00:48:39 topic goes, juju and then trying to get the kids in next season,

00:48:42 see what the Patriots have.

00:48:44 >> Yeah, so I think juju and playing the kids are linked, right?

00:48:46 So if you're gonna play the kids and you're gonna stay committed to that idea,

00:48:50 there's certain players on the roster who are now even more expendable than they

00:48:54 originally were.

00:48:55 And juju falls on that list, and Kyle Thugger falls on that list.

00:48:59 But focusing on juju, you're talking about a wide receiver room that has Osborne,

00:49:04 and Pop Douglas, no question to ask.

00:49:07 And then presuming they may go one or two receivers in the draft,

00:49:11 you're already putting juju at the sixth receiver on the depth chart, and

00:49:14 we haven't even talked about Ty Quon or Jalen Rager yet.

00:49:17 So if you are going to stay committed to the playing the kids mantra,

00:49:22 then you need to consider doing something with juju.

00:49:25 And I know we all want him gone, and

00:49:27 his on the field performance hasn't really helped his cause there.

00:49:31 But before we get into moving him, he does deserve credit for,

00:49:35 remember one receiver lost the game probably in Oakland, excuse me,

00:49:40 in Vegas, and said, that ball didn't really touch my hands, maybe my fingers.

00:49:45 And then a few weeks later,

00:49:47 juju has the pass go through his hands against the commanders.

00:49:49 And he immediately says, on me, I lost the game.

00:49:53 So credit to that guy for first being somebody who is willing to

00:49:57 voice his own shortcomings.

00:50:00 So that's why I'm not immediately jumping at it,

00:50:02 that I want him gone like Devante Parker, for instance.

00:50:06 But- >> What you want is a soft landing,

00:50:08 like they can both go.

00:50:09 You just want one guy to land softly and on his feet and bend his knees, and

00:50:13 the other one you're like, yeah, best of luck to you.

00:50:15 No parachute.

00:50:16 >> And I think in that case, I'm going to juju and his agent and saying, listen,

00:50:21 it didn't work here.

00:50:22 It's not going to work here.

00:50:23 I know you're still under contract.

00:50:26 Tell you what, go out there and find a trade partner.

00:50:29 Some sort of contender maybe, who is willing to bring you back on,

00:50:33 rehab you, and do what you can in a smaller position to perform next year.

00:50:40 And tell you what, go find every team, whether they have cap space or not.

00:50:43 Because I think one thing the Patriots can do is use their cap space.

00:50:48 They didn't do it for players.

00:50:50 Maybe they can do it for picks.

00:50:52 So the Brock Osweiler type concept where that team almost bought a draft pick.

00:50:57 Juju has 7 million guaranteed this upcoming year.

00:51:01 I'll leave it to Pat's cap and experts like yourself to figure out the nuances of

00:51:04 it.

00:51:05 But the matter being, if you pay somebody for their,

00:51:09 you can lower their cap hit to the trading team.

00:51:13 So I'm trying to find a way.

00:51:15 >> Let's jump in there too, because there is a de-escalation as far as how

00:51:19 significant the cap hit needs to be, right?

00:51:20 Depending on whether he's cut or is using just a trade.

00:51:23 Doug and I touched upon this in the last episode saying, look,

00:51:26 if you're gonna trade Juju Smith-Schuster, you're not acquiring a draft pick.

00:51:29 Or if you are, it's some sort of swap,

00:51:31 where you're giving the better pick attached to Juju just to get off his

00:51:35 contract.

00:51:36 At this point, to the point that you're making,

00:51:38 use your space just to absorb crap.

00:51:40 Like fill it, take your lumps now, swallow them and move on.

00:51:43 Cuz you're not using that space on good players.

00:51:46 I would argue just for releasing him.

00:51:48 Now there are some differences and this is just all accounting rules.

00:51:51 We don't need to get into the specifics, but the bottom line is this.

00:51:53 If he is cut or traded before June 1st,

00:51:56 the pain is deeper than it will be after June 1st.

00:52:01 And here are the numbers.

00:52:02 If he is cut before June 1st outright,

00:52:04 they lose cap space and take a $12.2 million dead cap hit.

00:52:09 If they cut him after June 1st, it is a $9.6 million cap hit, and

00:52:13 there's no loss of space, it's negligible.

00:52:16 If they trade him before June 1st, only $5.2 million in dead cap, and

00:52:21 about 5 or so million in cap space.

00:52:23 If they trade him after June 1st, it's $2.6 million in dead cap.

00:52:28 Now that's a $10 million difference, cutting him down versus trading him later,

00:52:32 again, after June 1st.

00:52:33 But at the cost of an extra draft pick, which for rebuilding team,

00:52:36 I just don't think is gonna be palatable for the front office.

00:52:39 >> Absolutely, take the hits now, take the lumps in this year,

00:52:42 preserve as much cap flexibility as you can next year.

00:52:45 But the focus here is trying to do right by the player, but more importantly,

00:52:49 creating playing opportunities for the younger guys that you're committed to play.

00:52:54 >> All right. >> That means juju leaves, juju leaves.

00:52:57 >> Speaking of the young kids, I want your top five, they can be in any order, or

00:53:02 not ordered at all.

00:53:03 It's like, I wanna see these young kids play, and even if they have growing pains,

00:53:07 even if they fumble week two against the Dolphins, keep them on the field.

00:53:11 And I wanna know what you have in them by the end of the season.

00:53:14 Who are those five young players here, first, or really gonna be second, third,

00:53:18 maybe in some cases, fourth year players?

00:53:20 >> Yeah, so Christian Gonzalez and Pop Douglas are the two, just like, please,

00:53:24 please, please stay healthy.

00:53:25 Like, let us just get six to 17 games and see what they can do next year.

00:53:31 The third is Keon White, and

00:53:32 Deetris Wise kind of falls into that same sort of veteran.

00:53:36 Let's move him off to the side and let's have promote playing the kids.

00:53:40 And Wise isn't on that same list as Juju, because A, he's a team leader,

00:53:44 he's a captain, and by all accounts, is a mentor type.

00:53:47 So you almost want him to be in that percent role for Keon White.

00:53:51 But Keon White needs to play, so he's probably the third.

00:53:53 Give me one of the four interior linemen, Sal, Moffy, Strange, or

00:54:01 Andrews, to be a legitimate starter on the interior line.

00:54:05 I still think there's a Boston media cover up that Cole Strange is more hurt or

00:54:09 is gonna take longer to come back next year than is being led on.

00:54:14 But I'm gonna leave that for another time.

00:54:17 And my biggest sleeper, you had Taekwon Thornton in your column as your sleeper.

00:54:23 I'm gonna go even deeper, and maybe this doesn't count cuz they didn't draft him,

00:54:27 but he's still a young player, and that's Alex Austin.

00:54:30 >> I like that.

00:54:30 >> Came in in November, had a really strong final five games,

00:54:35 had one pick on a great play, peeling off the receiver,

00:54:39 and high pointing a Josh Allen pass.

00:54:42 You should have had another one against the Steelers.

00:54:45 But if you're concerned about Marcus Jones and Jonathan Jones being smaller,

00:54:49 Alex Austin's 6'1", he can play opposite on the boundary with Christian Gonzalez.

00:54:54 You may even be now able to move Jonathan Jones to a free safety type role if you

00:54:57 don't bring somebody else in.

00:54:59 But if the season starts tomorrow,

00:55:02 Alex Austin's probably your starting cornerback, and trying to give him an

00:55:07 opportunity.

00:55:08 >> Jonathan Jones is gonna have a say about that, but he's also someone that I

00:55:13 think at this point in his career is probably best served as a utility guy,

00:55:15 right, can play nickel outside, maybe even single line deep safety,

00:55:19 which they've been reluctant to do, at least as of the last couple of years.

00:55:23 But I would throw in Marcus Jones in there too, right?

00:55:26 We're talking about these third year players, Cole Strange is gonna start.

00:55:29 I mean, if he's just unhealthy next year, it's incredibly unfortunate.

00:55:32 Also, if we're going to fill our own time, it's gonna be with quarterback rumors,

00:55:36 not left guard injury coverups here in the Boston media.

00:55:39 And we do get bored.

00:55:40 I mean, I've wrote about this a lot today in my column, but

00:55:42 the point is, if I have more information, I would share it.

00:55:45 And the time I tried to share it on the pod, I think a few months ago,

00:55:48 I screwed it up.

00:55:48 So I'm just gonna, cuz, cold stop here in the Cole Strange run.

00:55:52 But the point is, Strange gets a lot of attention.

00:55:55 Tyquan Thornton gets a lot of attention.

00:55:56 And Marcus Jones is a third year player taking the third round.

00:56:00 Like, Miles Bryant walked, not because Pat's Nation pushed him off the plank,

00:56:05 but because they believe in Marcus Jones.

00:56:07 They only had so many small corners.

00:56:09 And he plays the same position.

00:56:10 It's gonna be nickel.

00:56:11 He can rotate back into safety occasionally.

00:56:14 And you can flip between these three corner and three safety looks

00:56:17 within the same personnel groupings cuz he's the keystone to that,

00:56:20 the little tiny five, eight keystone.

00:56:22 But I think he's a more natural playmaker than either of those two guys.

00:56:26 And that's someone that I don't want people to forget about, Marcus Jones,

00:56:29 in addition to being an excellent return man.

00:56:31 I like the picks about Keon White.

00:56:33 Deidre Price is also productive enough in my mind.

00:56:35 Like, he's not wowing anyone.

00:56:37 And Antonio Maffei of the three, four interior guys.

00:56:41 Cuz honestly, when you said Andrews, I was like,

00:56:42 you know David Andrews is on the other side of 30, right?

00:56:45 No, you're talking about Jake Andrews.

00:56:46 Man, most of the senior media, forget about fourth round pick of Detroit.

00:56:50 Maffei, because his college career started late on the offensive side,

00:56:54 I still think has more potential than the guy we saw getting his butt kicked

00:56:58 early in the season, thrusting into a role he wasn't ready for.

00:57:01 That year two leap, as much as no one's gonna be zeroed in,

00:57:04 binoculars ready at training camp for year two guys,

00:57:07 I think deserves some more attention.

00:57:09 Because Sal finished strong.

00:57:10 If he can push strange or at least give good depth at right guard,

00:57:13 like you got a solid interior because of those picks last year between Sal and

00:57:17 Maffei.

00:57:18 >> No question, Sidney Sal was drafted when he was 25.

00:57:21 Maffei, I think was two and a half or even three years younger.

00:57:24 And like you said, converted defensive lineman over to offensive lineman.

00:57:27 Opportunities need to be made.

00:57:29 The only way to do that is to put them on the field.

00:57:31 And you've got four that you've drafted in the last two years.

00:57:35 And you've got two spots that are available to them.

00:57:38 >> Yeah, all right, anything else you wanna get off your chest before we get you

00:57:41 out of here?

00:57:41 It sounds like you got a sweet gig at home.

00:57:43 Mom's taking the overnight shift with the baby.

00:57:45 So you're free in the daytime.

00:57:46 Use your daytime to your best use, my friend.

00:57:50 >> Well, thank you very much.

00:57:51 Yes, I am so appreciative of what you're doing with Boston Children's Hospital and

00:57:54 making this available to fans.

00:57:55 So I wanted to carry that spirit on.

00:57:58 My wife and I have two Airbnbs in the Bridgeton main area for

00:58:02 those familiar.

00:58:03 It's by Pleasant Mountain, used to go by Shawnee Peak.

00:58:06 And we have two properties there, both with hot tubs, both in kind of remote areas.

00:58:12 And again, would like to make that gratuitous spirit stay alive here with

00:58:18 the Pats Interference podcast and make available to your listeners a 12% discount

00:58:23 between now and leading up to Memorial Day weekend if they mention this podcast.

00:58:29 And then they show proof of donation to Boston Children's Hospital.

00:58:33 And all they could do is reach out to me or yourself and get that worked out.

00:58:38 And happy to share the links for the two Airbnbs so

00:58:40 that your listeners can see them.

00:58:42 But yeah, any stay where we're open on the calendar between now and

00:58:46 right before Memorial Day, 12% discount on whatever the listing price is.

00:58:50 That they can just show to you proof of or myself proof of donation to Boston

00:58:54 Children's Hospital and they mentioned the Pats Interference podcast.

00:58:59 >> This is too cool.

00:59:00 This is look, I've done TV, I've done radio.

00:59:02 This is among the coolest things you've done to carry on that spirit.

00:59:04 And it's not because as I told you beforehand that I've spent summers or

00:59:08 a week or two in Bridgeton on Moose Pond in Denmark, lovely area.

00:59:12 Like some of the best summers I ever had as a kid.

00:59:14 But this is what it's all about.

00:59:16 Pass it on, put your own spin on it and thank you for doing that.

00:59:19 12% discount, not bad also as we approach Tom Brady's induction of

00:59:22 the Patriots Hall of Fame coming up in June.

00:59:24 >> Had to make the connection.

00:59:25 >> Yeah, had to make the connection.

00:59:27 All right, that is Gary Langley.

00:59:28 You can find him Gary spelled as you'd expect, then L-A-N-G-L-I-A-I-S,

00:59:34 L-A-I-S to finish.

00:59:36 Langley, thank you very much for your feedback, your emails.

00:59:38 I know I'm gonna hear from you again and

00:59:39 I think we'll probably have it back on the pot, all right?

00:59:41 >> Yes, and as the self-acclaimed press secretary of the President Tommy

00:59:46 Curran Trade Down team, you'll probably be hearing a lot more about my

00:59:50 preference to trade down over the next few weeks.

00:59:52 >> No, just keep it in the emails.

00:59:54 I hear enough from my guy Tommy, random texts about this.

00:59:56 So we can't have two of you.

00:59:57 Thanks, Gary.

00:59:58 >> Thanks a lot, Andrew.

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