Dave Portnoy BANNED Rico Bosco - Barstool Rundown - March 18th, 2024
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00:02 - All right, rundown, March 18th.
00:09 - Wait, is it your birthday?
00:12 - It's getting close.
00:13 I don't like to count birthdays anymore.
00:14 I pretend they ain't coming.
00:16 - When's your birthday?
00:17 - Does it actually bother you now?
00:18 - No, but I'm not looking.
00:20 - Yeah, you're not looking forward to it.
00:22 - Like 46, 47, who gives a fuck, 50.
00:26 - That's a big one.
00:27 That's a big one.
00:28 - Wait, is it March 21st?
00:29 Is your birthday? - Second, second.
00:32 So I got a couple of years, but yeah, 50 is 50.
00:34 It's crazy to even say it.
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01:14 All right, the tournament that's clearly number one.
01:18 It is, I know for Dan, you and I,
01:21 my favorite sporting event of the year,
01:24 assuming we don't have like a rooting interest in it.
01:27 I guess the big news, the Big East really got snubbed.
01:32 Snubbed.
01:34 - Absolutely fucked.
01:35 - I do have a question.
01:37 I saw Max say it was anti-Italian basis.
01:40 Now.
01:41 - I like that line of reasoning.
01:43 Did you hear what he, like the reasoning?
01:46 - Yeah, because there's all like Italian.
01:49 - He said it just off the cuff.
01:51 He was like, this is anti-Italian discrimination.
01:53 I was like, what are you talking about?
01:54 He's like, the Big East is an Italian league.
01:56 - Yeah, right.
01:57 I didn't say that.
01:58 - He's not wrong.
01:59 - Yeah.
02:00 - Well, that's just like the Northeast.
02:01 - It's North, yeah.
02:02 - I was gonna say, I can get Italian coaches and players.
02:04 - Anything Pitino's in, you're gonna say it's like,
02:07 Jay Wright, was he Italian?
02:09 No, he's gone.
02:09 He seems Italian.
02:10 You got Raleigh Massimino through the years.
02:13 So yeah, there's the vibes there.
02:15 I actually wasn't because I saw Dante be like,
02:18 what the heck?
02:18 Dante, I thought I saw him say like a week and a half ago
02:24 that Barstool was anti-Italian.
02:27 So I wasn't sure if it was trolling Dante.
02:30 - No, I think he was off the cuff 'cause they went,
02:33 we did the bracket reveal and everything
02:34 and they went to us and he just started ranting
02:38 in a very funny line.
02:38 But yeah, Dante does think that we're anti-Italian.
02:41 I can't remember why he thinks we're anti-Italian.
02:42 - Because his blogs get, I think, shut down
02:46 and he's the number one crazy guy.
02:47 I guess through the years, I believe it with the Big East,
02:50 I mean, PJ Carlesimo, they've had very famous coaches
02:53 that have been Italian, but maybe a lot of conferences do.
02:58 I don't really know.
02:59 Like NC.
03:00 - Who else really comes to mind?
03:02 - NC State, what's his name?
03:03 The guy who died.
03:04 - Valvano.
03:06 - Valvano was super Italian.
03:07 - Yeah.
03:08 - Massimino, Carlesimo.
03:11 - Izzo's probably very Italian.
03:13 - Is he?
03:14 He seems like Irish to me.
03:15 - Thomas Izzo, yeah.
03:16 - I feel like Izzo, oh, maybe not.
03:18 - He looks like a little Irish guy.
03:19 - They got screwed.
03:20 They got screwed.
03:21 - I mean, they got screwed, dude.
03:22 Like the talk around New York was just kind of like,
03:25 oh, like, you know, Patino, like St. John's is going
03:27 and Patino did it again.
03:28 Like it was a lock, you know what I mean?
03:30 - Yeah, I thought they'd go.
03:31 I mean, the Virginia thing.
03:33 - Izzo is Italian.
03:35 - Okay, credit to you.
03:36 So the Virginia is one that jumps out
03:40 and you go all these different things.
03:43 They're just so boring to watch play.
03:44 Like I feel like that should be held against you.
03:47 - Yeah, Virginia, the problem was it came down to,
03:50 I think Virginia just didn't have any bad losses
03:52 and that's how they judge those things.
03:54 But it just, it sucks.
03:56 And also this is a weird year because we had,
03:59 I think five teams that stole bids.
04:02 We had New Mexico, UAB, NC State.
04:06 There was some others.
04:08 Oh, the Duquesne, like all these teams, Oregon.
04:11 Yeah, so five teams that shouldn't have been in
04:14 that won their conference tournament,
04:15 which you have to let them in, which I like,
04:17 but it got the bubble so small
04:19 that everyone was going to be pissed no matter what.
04:21 - Yeah.
04:22 UConn, odds on favorite.
04:25 I don't know.
04:26 What are they right now?
04:27 - Five, four to one.
04:28 Four to one.
04:30 - You have them at 14, Dan.
04:31 You told me to take them.
04:32 - I did.
04:33 - The only, and I do think they're going to win it.
04:35 The only thing though, so I was debating,
04:38 I'm going to be flying to Chicago,
04:40 watch day one and day two with you guys.
04:42 We're going to DraftKings Sports Bar on Thursday.
04:45 I think the tables are sold out.
04:46 So it's going to be very busy there.
04:48 Friday at the office, Saturday, I go to IceCon.
04:53 - Funeral.
04:54 Funeral.
04:55 - It's not to diminish what the baton death march was,
04:58 but that is what IceCon's going to be.
05:02 Nobody's alive.
05:05 The ice people are dead.
05:06 - You should actually, what is the setup?
05:08 Is it at a bar and then the game?
05:11 - I think we're going to the Barstool Bar Saturday night
05:13 to watch the games.
05:14 Sunday, DraftKings has a bar there.
05:16 We're doing that and then going to the game.
05:19 - Okay, so if he doesn't win between now and Sunday,
05:23 like you should actually get a casket
05:25 and put them in a casket at the bar
05:27 and have everyone pay their respects.
05:29 - Irish Wake.
05:30 Irish Wake is still a party, but it's pay your respects.
05:33 - I may have to do that.
05:37 Or even a casket just, 'cause IceCon,
05:40 if the way it's going, it's a chance IceCon,
05:43 that Arizona game's just a one nothing game.
05:45 Like everyone's sitting on their hands.
05:47 So maybe you cask them out or carry them out in a casket.
05:50 I don't know, but that's been ugly.
05:52 Anyways, UConn, I was debating when I go to Chicago
05:56 to put 500 grand on UConn to win the whole thing.
05:58 That is how much of a lock I think they are.
06:02 - But it's so, I mean, like there's no such thing
06:05 as a lock on that level in college.
06:07 - UCLA year two, when they went back to back,
06:10 that was a lock.
06:11 Nobody could beat them.
06:13 I think they're that good,
06:14 but I haven't seen one person not pick them.
06:19 And now Bosco for the first time
06:22 since is like calling them the bulls.
06:24 So that Rico is so bad at life in general
06:29 and everything that has given me pause.
06:33 - Once he jumps on, you gotta jump off.
06:35 - But I really don't.
06:36 - But you originated.
06:37 - They're so good that they can play bad and still win.
06:40 - Yeah, they can play any style
06:42 and they can also like, they have an answer for everything.
06:46 Like you can't, it's not like, oh, a team with a big guy.
06:49 They got a big guy.
06:50 - They got everything.
06:50 - Guards, they got guards.
06:52 The only thing I would say,
06:53 and again, I have a future on UConn,
06:55 so I want them to win,
06:56 but they do have weirdly,
06:59 they're the number one overall seed,
07:00 but they have the toughest bracket.
07:02 Like, I don't know why they put them in that,
07:03 but Iowa State, Auburn, and who's there?
07:07 Oh, and Illinois, all like top 10 teams in my mind.
07:11 - So how many of those can they play though?
07:12 Like two?
07:13 - They can play, they would play Auburn
07:15 and then the winner of Illinois or Iowa State.
07:17 - Yeah.
07:17 - I just, they're so much better.
07:19 Like, those are all good teams.
07:22 Like, but who, like Houston people, they got trials.
07:25 I just, who can beat them?
07:26 I don't know.
07:27 I'm debating it.
07:28 It'll be, if you're saying four to one,
07:30 can you look on draft games right now, Dan?
07:32 - Yeah.
07:33 The only team I could see, oh man, it's tough.
07:36 There's, yeah, there's very few teams,
07:38 like Houston would be in the final.
07:40 I don't think Houston has a shot versus them.
07:42 - I could, I do think if Kentucky doesn't play
07:47 a lot of defense, but they have at least the,
07:49 like they have NBA talent and when they score,
07:52 when they get hot, like you can't go shot for shot with them.
07:56 But I agree with you.
07:56 I think UConn is.
07:57 - I think they're light years ahead of everybody else.
07:59 Light years.
08:00 - They are four to one right now.
08:02 - Four to one, so it'll be 500 grand to win two mil.
08:04 - Ooh, I like it.
08:06 I mean, I think they're going to get at least
08:07 the final four, then you got to,
08:08 but then even last year, last year they beat everyone
08:12 by like 10 plus points.
08:13 There wasn't a single close game.
08:15 - Yeah, and I think they're better.
08:16 So I'm debating it.
08:17 Stay tuned.
08:19 - Do you see KG and Paul Pierce talking about how
08:22 they think women's basketball has more juice
08:24 than men's basketball?
08:25 - Oh, I agree.
08:25 - Yeah, I was going to, I mean, I think there's like no,
08:29 like no debate about it,
08:30 but I didn't know where you guys were.
08:31 - Let me put this in your radar.
08:33 I already am, if not done, I put in the motion,
08:38 game time, our ticket agency,
08:40 I'm going through and buying April.
08:43 And just so you know, I'm not bullshit.
08:45 And I printed out the women's bracket
08:49 before the men's bracket.
08:51 And to see, because I, you want to talk about it
08:54 and screwed, Iowa has to play LSU before the final four.
08:58 - Oh, that sucks.
08:59 - That game, Albany.
09:01 - How did they let that happen?
09:02 Like just for the sake of the sport.
09:03 - LSU's a three seed.
09:05 - That's, like do whatever you got to do to put them
09:07 on the opposite side.
09:08 - That's the difference, if they run it.
09:09 - That's crazy.
09:10 - If Iowa plays LSU in a rematch and a Dave Portnoy
09:15 revenge game, I will be there in Albany.
09:17 - But that'll be like an elite eight game?
09:19 - That's an elite eight game.
09:20 - Ah, brutal for them.
09:22 - I do agree with the storyline.
09:23 Like Caitlin Clark's the most recognizable college
09:28 basketball player this year.
09:29 Like that's the men's-
09:30 - And number two, maybe Angel Reese.
09:32 - Yeah, the men's tournament doesn't have,
09:34 like they have guys, but like even in the NBA draft
09:36 this year, I think it's going to be like two or three euros
09:38 going in the top of the draft.
09:40 The men's tournament still is going to outrate
09:42 the women's tournament by a lot.
09:43 - Oh, totally, totally.
09:44 - Yeah.
09:45 - But I would say this is the first time ever that like,
09:47 well, like-
09:48 - Yes, maybe overall-
09:49 - Like the fact that you printed out the brackets
09:51 and people are talking like this, like it's obviously
09:53 women's teams have been gaining steam, but like-
09:54 - I agree.
09:55 The biggest ratings for single games will go to the women.
09:59 - I disagree with that.
10:00 - Oh, 100%.
10:02 - If there's an Iowa LSU game, dude.
10:04 - No.
10:04 - You don't think so?
10:05 - I don't think so.
10:06 - Caitlin Clark will outdraw anything.
10:08 - No.
10:09 - Yes.
10:10 - No.
10:11 - I don't know enough about like-
10:12 - Yeah, I think she will.
10:13 - I feel like if there's an Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark game,
10:15 that'll be the biggest game of college basketball this year.
10:17 - That's an elite eight.
10:18 I don't know when they play because it's Albany on a Monday.
10:21 So I don't, weird timing, but South Carolina-
10:24 - But the mere fact that it's even-
10:25 - No, no, no.
10:27 I'm looking right now, last year, the final game
10:31 was 9.9 million people watched, and the final four
10:34 was, men's final four was 13 million,
10:37 and the final was 12.
10:38 And that was one of the most down final four match-ups
10:42 the men's could possibly have,
10:44 'cause it was FAU, San Diego State, Miami, UConn.
10:47 UConn was the only team that could actually draw
10:49 a fan base viewing-wise.
10:51 - Wait, wait, so the final game was, what was it?
10:54 - It was, the final men's game was 12 million,
10:57 and the final women's game was 9.9.
10:59 - Okay, but I think-
11:01 - Another year of like-
11:02 - That was the beginning of Caitlin Clark's arrival.
11:05 - But again, if you have even one blue,
11:08 one or two blue bloods in the final four,
11:11 like if UConn plays North Carolina in the final four,
11:15 that will be so much bigger.
11:16 I'm just saying TV ratings.
11:18 - I think Caitlin Clark is 5X what she was last year.
11:21 - Yeah, like we were, you know, everyone in the sports world
11:24 was on Caitlin Clark last year,
11:25 but now it's like, everybody knows her.
11:27 - And I didn't really know who Caitlin Clark was
11:29 till like mid-tournament last year, and I'm watching,
11:32 I'm like, "Who the fuck is this?"
11:33 - She's got a full season of hype,
11:35 and even if it doesn't, let's say the men still beat them,
11:37 like the fact that this is even on the table
11:40 or that this discussion is happening,
11:42 like if you told me that, you know, 10 years ago,
11:44 we'd be talking like this, like no chance.
11:46 The fact that-
11:47 - I think that Monday night game,
11:49 and I assume it'll be Monday night.
11:51 - No, it'll be Sunday night.
11:53 - No, no.
11:54 - Oh, the Elite Eight.
11:55 - The Elite Eight women's game,
11:57 if it's Iowa against LSU, prime time, Monday night,
12:02 could be the highest ranked game of the entire, everything.
12:05 - I see, even I'm reading this,
12:07 and it says that last year was a record low for the men's
12:12 and a record high for the women's.
12:14 - But I think there's gonna be more of that,
12:15 like just keep going.
12:17 - That has amplified, like in my mind, five matches.
12:19 - But that's also the matchup.
12:20 Like if we had San Diego State and FAU.
12:22 - But I feel like, yes,
12:25 if it's like premier programs, it might change them,
12:28 but everything you just described,
12:30 more of that happened this year.
12:31 It was more of a men's down year,
12:33 and the women just kept going.
12:34 - And I don't think FAU necessarily,
12:35 I know what you're saying, blue bloods,
12:37 but I think for a casual fan,
12:38 an FAU making a run is almost more interesting to people.
12:41 - Yeah, the Cinderella, yeah.
12:42 - Like San Diego State. - I don't know about that.
12:44 I don't know about that.
12:45 - Yeah.
12:46 - Well, that's why they play the games,
12:47 we're gonna find out.
12:48 - All right, we'll find out.
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13:51 - Dave, next year you gotta come back
13:53 for Conference Championship Week.
13:54 I missed ya.
13:55 I missed ya in the trenches with me.
13:57 - No, I tried to avoid it.
13:59 No, I don't wanna do it.
14:00 I don't. - Come on.
14:00 - Nope, and I tried to avoid it.
14:01 - That was a quick no. - Five days in a row.
14:03 - No, I don't like it.
14:04 It's my least favorite week of the year.
14:07 Speaking of, we haven't talked all, he's still banned.
14:11 And I'm sure he'll be on the Unnamed Show a lot on Friday.
14:16 - Oh, that's gonna be,
14:18 he better be preparing all these--
14:20 - I don't get how Rico Bosco, all he's been through,
14:25 that I have to pay for, and this is all he cares about.
14:27 He just wants to be a college basketball guy.
14:29 He doesn't care about anything else.
14:31 How he can have me, and it's me, it's my company,
14:36 pay for his airfare, his hotel, during Championship Week.
14:41 It was, he took his fiesta, his siesta, excuse me,
14:46 during the Big East Finals,
14:48 for teams that he hasn't shut up about,
14:50 St. John's, in a close game.
14:53 He, and this is, he didn't fall asleep.
14:56 He went to sleep.
14:58 - I know, the blanket is like, oh.
14:59 - He walked to a lounge chair,
15:03 put a blanket on himself, and went to sleep.
15:06 - And the 45 minutes, I was in the office--
15:12 - We waited for Dan to leave.
15:13 - Basically five days straight,
15:14 and I was like, I'm going home to see my kids for an hour,
15:18 and I get back, and I have a text from Dave being like,
15:22 did you see Bosco went to sleep?
15:23 And I was just like, God damn it.
15:25 - As a guy who's like, I'm always trying to
15:27 play devil's advocate, or argue for him against you guys,
15:31 he, God, he makes it hard sometimes.
15:34 There's always, for a lifer, how many presidencies now?
15:37 Like, how, that's such a big mess up.
15:42 Like, how do you still make those mistakes
15:44 this deep into your--
15:45 - If he had left, if he had left for 30 minutes,
15:49 and took a nap in another room,
15:50 no one would have said boo.
15:51 - Sure.
15:52 - Like, no one would have said anything.
15:53 - On camera, and pulled, like, if it's a Frank the Tank
15:55 situation where he falls asleep, it is what it is.
15:57 - I don't say anything if you just, correct.
15:59 - To pull your blanket, and he kind of turned on his side.
16:02 It's like, you're going to bed, Rico.
16:03 - He went to sleep.
16:04 He put himself to sleep.
16:06 He didn't fall asleep.
16:07 - Who's a bigger sleeper, Klemmer or Rico?
16:09 I mean, it's awesome.
16:11 - Klemmer's a total, like, I just, to put your,
16:15 I don't know what to say.
16:17 I don't know what to say to him.
16:18 It's, he wants to be that clueless.
16:22 I don't know.
16:23 - What was his, like, so you tweeted it.
16:26 I saw the email right away.
16:27 Was there like a phone call or anything?
16:29 Like, did you talk to him?
16:30 - Yeah, he called me.
16:30 He called me.
16:31 He has what I'll say is a, he's using an excuse
16:34 that I 100% do not buy.
16:37 Like, he's using an excuse, but I mean.
16:40 - What is he saying?
16:41 - HIPAA can't.
16:44 - HIPAA, yeah.
16:45 - It's HIPAA.
16:47 - Really, is it something like that?
16:48 Like, come on.
16:50 - It's a lie though.
16:51 - I was going to say, like, we're talking like college,
16:54 you're lying to your professor type of lie about like.
16:56 - I mean, I know, again, his excuse of it being the HIPAA.
17:01 - No way, he actually said HIPAA?
17:04 - No, he didn't say HIPAA.
17:05 - But it is a HIPAA.
17:06 Like, I'm not going to say it.
17:07 It's a medical issue.
17:09 But it's not a medical, this would fly
17:12 if he fell asleep watching the game.
17:15 It's not when you get up from your chair
17:17 and put yourself to bed.
17:19 That's like, and by the way, I think this guy is so,
17:23 like when he came to my house for that horse race,
17:27 this HIPAA violation was not in play.
17:30 And the first thing he did when he got to my house
17:33 was go to sleep.
17:34 He just sleep.
17:36 I don't think he sleeps at night.
17:38 He's tired, whatever, but slept at Survivor.
17:42 He is, he's a sleeper.
17:45 - He's a sleep guy.
17:46 - Well now, but okay, but now maybe that's almost better
17:51 if he's just a sleeper.
17:52 I don't know, then Rico, you know, then it's on you.
17:53 - Then just falls.
17:54 - It's like Mincy though.
17:55 It's Benji.
17:56 - It's crazy 'cause it goes back to like,
17:59 he was like, yeah, I didn't sleep last night.
18:01 He's like, Rico, do you think I'm sleeping?
18:03 Like I was watching fucking UT Arlington
18:05 at two in the morning.
18:06 And then I was up at 6.30.
18:08 We're not sleeping right now.
18:09 - I can't stress this enough.
18:11 This is the only thing he cares about, college basketball.
18:14 - That's the other thing too.
18:15 It's not like it was, you know, in the middle of baseball.
18:16 - He's like if I slept in the Superbowl.
18:18 Like if I put myself to bed during the Superbowl.
18:21 - That's exactly what it is.
18:22 It's literally the same thing.
18:24 He begs to do this.
18:26 He begs to do it.
18:27 And again, it was St. John's, UConn
18:31 in a very close first half Big East championship game.
18:35 And he-
18:35 - Semi-final, he's gonna come after you for that.
18:37 - I thought it was-
18:38 - Semi-final.
18:39 No, Marquette, UConn.
18:40 - Marquette, right, right, right.
18:41 - So it was a-
18:42 - But you know he'll do that.
18:43 He'll be like, it wasn't the final.
18:44 - But it's just like, I had this epiphany
18:47 like over the last month or two.
18:49 Like there's just so many people
18:51 who have been here a long time
18:52 who still are doing things that like,
18:54 you know we're gonna piss off Dave
18:56 or you know is like a cardinal rule not to do it.
18:58 Missing this, being late to that.
19:00 Like whatever it is, it's like,
19:02 how are these things still happening
19:04 where they don't think to themselves,
19:05 if I like, I'm really tired right now.
19:07 I wanna go to sleep.
19:08 And then there's not another side of them that goes,
19:10 but you can't go to sleep
19:11 or you're gonna get fucking chewed out and embarrassed.
19:13 - Or leave the stream.
19:14 If he left the stream, nobody notices.
19:16 - Right, nobody notices.
19:17 - You literally put himself there.
19:19 - And Dan, you're right.
19:20 It was the semi-final.
19:21 But what made me think it was the most electric
19:24 the garden had been because of St. John's.
19:26 - St. John's, UConn, it was awesome.
19:29 - It was bumping and he's an art college basketball guy
19:33 who this is all he wants to do, went to sleep.
19:37 - Yeah.
19:38 - The funniest part about it,
19:39 I was laughing at myself when I got back.
19:41 Then I got back at like halftime
19:43 and just thinking about Dave,
19:46 'cause Dave had texted me, he's like,
19:47 "I'm actually very angry."
19:49 And thinking about Dave, like pacing his house,
19:52 angry at Rico Bosco napping.
19:54 And then like every like five minutes,
19:56 you know, kissing Miss Peaches on the tummy.
19:58 And then just going back to being angry.
20:01 - She hasn't seen me that mad.
20:02 I was so mad.
20:03 And I know people don't get,
20:04 but like I probably had a thousand DMs.
20:08 - Of course.
20:09 - Just people begging for,
20:11 it's like this guy is so arrogant and so spoiled
20:15 and that he could think he can do that
20:18 while cashing a paycheck.
20:20 And he has nowhere else, I don't know.
20:22 - We have the best job in the world.
20:24 And at the top of having the best job in the world,
20:27 probably the like funnest thing we get to do
20:29 is we get to watch sports and gamble on it.
20:32 And that's our job.
20:33 - For money, yeah.
20:34 - There are millions of people who want to do that.
20:37 - And he just went to sleep.
20:39 So yeah, I can't even look at him.
20:42 What was there?
20:43 - So is he totally dead?
20:43 - You speak of Miss Peaches occasionally projectile vomit.
20:47 My dad met her, puked on him twice.
20:49 If I saw Rico, I think I would projectile vomit right now.
20:54 If I saw him, I'd be like, bleh.
20:55 - So what's the plan?
20:57 'Cause we were talking, Dave, about different ideas.
20:59 There was one idea thrown around
21:00 that we build him a penalty box
21:03 so Dave doesn't have to see him, but he's on the stream.
21:05 The other idea was he has to stand
21:08 for all of Thursday and Friday.
21:09 And he has an allotted amount of timeouts
21:11 that he can sit down.
21:13 - That might be cruel and unusual.
21:15 That's brutal.
21:16 - No, no, that way he can't sleep.
21:17 - Standing is the worst thing in the world.
21:18 - He's gotta stand.
21:19 - Standing is the worst.
21:20 Yeah, no, it's the guy for a night.
21:23 - As of now, he's still banned.
21:24 Maybe standing is punishment.
21:26 I literally told Dan,
21:27 because Jerry did something that made me mad too.
21:29 But it's like horses wear blinkers
21:32 so they don't get distracted.
21:34 I may have to wear a human blinker thing
21:36 just so I can't see anybody Thursday, Friday.
21:38 But I don't know, the stand, I'll think about it.
21:41 I'll think about it.
21:42 - That was just me just walking in front of the camera.
21:44 - Dave wants stuff too.
21:45 - Yeah, Kevin, when Jerry and Rico,
21:49 there was a moment on Saturday
21:50 where they both were in trouble.
21:52 And I was like,
21:53 "I think Barstool just might not be a dog household."
21:56 Maybe it's time just not have any dogs anymore.
21:59 - They gotta be outdoor dogs.
22:01 They just stay out there, they can do whatever they want.
22:03 - And they were bitching at each other.
22:05 I was told, Dave, before we started,
22:06 they were both in trouble.
22:08 Rico was eating pretzels loud.
22:10 And Jerry was like,
22:11 "Stop fucking eating those pretzels so loud."
22:12 They were just relaxing each other,
22:14 both in his dog house.
22:15 Oh, it was great.
22:16 - But this is it, Dave.
22:18 You built the cart for the circuit.
22:20 - But I don't do people like,
22:21 "Oh, this'll be for content."
22:23 It's like, I was so mad at Rico,
22:26 I can't even put it into words.
22:27 It turns into content,
22:29 but it starts- - But it wasn't like,
22:30 I was not like, "Oh, this'll be good."
22:32 I was incensed.
22:34 I just couldn't, I still can't believe
22:37 what an arrogant son of a bitch he is.
22:40 I just can't get it.
22:42 - HIPAA aside, was there any like,
22:45 "I just, I fucked up, I'm so sorry."
22:47 - No.
22:48 No, he's-
22:49 - Would that have been better than HIPAA?
22:51 If he just said to you like, "Boss, I don't know.
22:54 "I just fucked up."
22:55 - Yeah, maybe, maybe.
22:56 - Like when Dukes was just like, "I'm the dumbest guy."
22:58 And you were like, "Oh, yeah."
22:59 - Yeah.
23:00 Him just being big, like, "I'm a really selfish asshole.
23:03 "I don't deserve any of it.
23:04 "I'm a scumbag."
23:06 Everything everyone says about me is true.
23:08 He is a scumbag, Dan.
23:10 I mean, Kevin, he attacked a wife of an employee
23:13 with burners.
23:14 He's a scumbag.
23:15 He's an absolute scumbag.
23:16 - I'll never defend that.
23:17 I was as mad about anybody on that.
23:18 - Trust me, the guy's a scumbag.
23:20 He's a scumbag.
23:22 Now, can you like scumbags?
23:24 Can you have a soft spot for a guy?
23:25 He is a scumbag who steals money
23:29 out of every employee's pocket at Barstool.
23:31 - This is not gonna go well.
23:34 - But now, where is Minahan on all this?
23:37 'Cause they're a team.
23:38 - We haven't talked.
23:40 - Racket busters.
23:41 - Yeah, we'll see.
23:43 - Okay.
23:43 - RG3, Dan, says that your quarterback,
23:49 Caleb Williams, should opt out or refuse to go to the Bears.
23:53 - RG3 with one of the dumbest tweets ever.
23:55 He got ratioed to hell.
23:57 He just doesn't understand the situation.
23:59 By the way, Dave, I did fleece you on that deal
24:01 that we did last week.
24:02 You wanna give me a second rounder?
24:05 - Yeah, gladly.
24:05 - Done.
24:06 - You do second for fields?
24:08 - Instant, are you kidding me?
24:10 - Then what are we doing?
24:12 - No one wants to pay a second rounder for him.
24:14 You just got fucking fleeced.
24:15 - Yeah, I think they're saying, what are they saying, Dan?
24:17 - No, no, I'm giving you my second.
24:18 - Dave got fleeced.
24:19 - I can't believe that the Patriots
24:22 wouldn't do, who cares?
24:24 The Patriots aren't doing dick.
24:26 - Yeah.
24:26 - We have no quarterbacks, we have no players.
24:28 - It's the contract though, because if you get,
24:30 the Steelers have to make a decision
24:31 whether they wanna pick up the fifth year
24:33 before he even takes a snap.
24:34 So that's where it gets a little like weird.
24:38 But yeah, RG3 made no sense.
24:40 I've said this and you can have the debate,
24:44 but, and I know the Bears franchise history
24:47 with quarterbacks and all that.
24:49 Caleb Williams, the Bears right now is the number one pick,
24:52 is the best situation a number one pick
24:54 has ever been able to walk into.
24:55 'Cause they won seven games last year.
24:56 They're not a two-win team that has no talent.
24:59 They were a seven-win team that has added talent.
25:03 So he's gonna be set up to succeed
25:04 and RG3 just talking out of his ass.
25:06 - Also like the Bears, I know, you know,
25:09 have not been great for a little while now,
25:12 but they're still, they're not a franchise you don't go,
25:15 you know what I mean?
25:17 Those are situations when you're going to like a franchise
25:19 who is, you know, piss poor, terrible laughing stock.
25:23 Chicago Bears is not one of those.
25:25 - And to be honest, in today's modern day NFL,
25:29 Jets, maybe Bears are down there,
25:32 but teams come up and down so fast.
25:35 - So quick, that's not even a thing anymore, you know?
25:37 - And like, it's just, yeah, it's very stupid.
25:40 He's just not making any sense.
25:42 Like they have, we have the ninth pick as well.
25:45 Like what rookie wouldn't want to be like,
25:48 oh, I'm going to go to this team
25:49 that won seven games last year.
25:51 And also they're probably gonna take a stud wide receiver
25:53 at nine, like it's crazy.
25:56 - Let me just say, I am not sold on Caleb Williams at all.
25:59 I don't think he's nearly, I don't think he's the guy that,
26:01 I think we'll look back at this
26:04 and a lot of people are going to be like,
26:05 yeah, Dave's really right.
26:07 - I feel like that's what I hear most about Caleb Williams
26:10 is people saying like, is he really the guy.
26:13 The problem is- - As a casual fan.
26:14 I just feel like that's the more-
26:16 - And I assume the Patriots are getting Drake May?
26:18 - It feels like that way.
26:20 The problem that Caleb Williams
26:21 is suffering from right now is he has been the number one
26:24 pick in the NFL draft for a year and a half.
26:27 - So long.
26:28 - So people are gonna pick him apart.
26:30 - Well, and he's kind of like a baby
26:32 and was crying in the crowd with his parents.
26:34 - Billy football cried over football.
26:35 - Yeah, that was Billy football.
26:37 That was something.
26:38 - They went so damn hard and they played so damn hard
26:42 and they got screwed by the referees.
26:45 Oh man, this made me really emotional.
26:48 I went to war with them and the fact that they
26:51 didn't get a win was terrible
26:53 because they fought so damn hard.
26:56 They did everything right.
27:00 They did everything right.
27:01 (crying)
27:03 They did everything right and they got robbed.
27:07 We were getting five yards every carry
27:09 and they kept moving the first down marker.
27:12 The worst thing was that they trusted me
27:15 and we didn't get the win.
27:18 I'm sorry, I'm so emotional.
27:20 It's just like, it's just hitting right now.
27:23 I never watched Ted Law so I'm exhausted
27:26 but I played in the game and I fought with them.
27:29 I love you mom.
27:30 I gotta go.
27:31 How do I look?
27:34 I look rough but do I look like I was crying?
27:37 - Yeah.
27:38 - That was weird.
27:39 - Him hanging up and being like,
27:40 all right mom, I'll talk to you later
27:42 'cause you didn't know who he was talking to.
27:43 It was so funny.
27:44 And then say to Donnie, does it look like I was crying?
27:47 And Donnie's like, yeah dude.
27:48 'Cause you were.
27:50 - That was one of the strangest clips.
27:53 PFT sent me before.
27:54 I mean, it's mesmerizing all the time.
27:56 But I've never interacted with Billy Football all that much
28:01 but he's crazy.
28:03 - Oh yeah. - Crazy person.
28:06 - Oh yeah.
28:07 - Sammy Sosa, I saw your thing Dan.
28:09 That was a very funny clip of him
28:11 when they asked if he was gonna admit they did steroids.
28:15 And his response was like, I didn't expect you to ask.
28:18 - Yeah, he's like, I didn't expect that question from you.
28:21 That's such a great response
28:23 to anyone ask you a hard question.
28:25 - Is there any reason at this point?
28:27 - No.
28:28 - Just say, if it was any of those guys.
28:30 - Well, did he lie in Congress?
28:32 - He did.
28:33 - So I don't know.
28:34 - I don't know.
28:35 - I think he did know all about Inglis.
28:37 - Yeah.
28:38 - Yeah.
28:39 - So it's a narrow different story.
28:40 - Yeah, Raphael Pomeroy did the point.
28:42 - Yeah.
28:43 - Unless you're like perjuring yourself.
28:46 I think if somebody said, yeah, I did steroids.
28:48 Next question.
28:49 - And by the way, yeah, if he said,
28:50 I did steroids and I saved baseball.
28:53 - Right, yeah, and you're fucking welcome for it.
28:56 Next.
28:56 - And even if you did lie to Congress,
28:58 Congress should be like, we don't really care.
29:00 - Yeah, this is not a big deal.
29:02 - Right, who fucking cares?
29:03 - Why was that ever even in Congress in the first place?
29:05 - It was insane it was there in the first place.
29:07 - Yeah.
29:09 - Couple posts, I think that was everything.
29:11 There wasn't a lot of topics, couple posts random.
29:14 The Jersey Jerry obviously versus E Conley.
29:18 What's his first name?
29:19 - Kevin Conley.
29:20 - Kevin, so, and he's been with you too, Kevin, right?
29:24 You did shit with him?
29:25 - Yeah, I've done an interview with him before.
29:27 - Yeah, he's now banned from Borelli's.
29:29 He opened Pandora's box because-
29:31 - Wait, whoa, whoa, wait, that's, I mean,
29:33 'cause that's, there's an Islanders connection
29:35 and everything.
29:36 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:37 - Frankie just said, nope, done.
29:38 - I think Jersey Jerry got a lot more credibility
29:41 because a lot of people, including Kelly Stafford,
29:43 but it sounded like a lot of people were like,
29:46 yeah, same exact story.
29:47 So it wasn't a one-time shot.
29:50 I'd ask crazy man, I guess another company, who knew?
29:54 I guess across Jersey Jerry, eventually this comes out.
29:57 Whitney was like texting me because he,
30:00 I don't know who Whitney was talking to, but they said,
30:03 and I didn't even tell Jerry this
30:04 because it'd fly off the handle, I'm sure.
30:06 They said they fired Jerry because he wasn't working.
30:10 They paid him the 15 grand and then he just like stopped.
30:14 Now, Jerry posted screenshots of him continuing to be like,
30:19 hey, what do you want me to do?
30:20 Where's the money?
30:21 So it kind of validates Jerry,
30:23 but it sounds like they're scumbags.
30:24 - Also- - Also, yeah, go ahead.
30:26 - No, I was gonna say that like,
30:28 the real thing was like, he like called him up drunk
30:31 and like left a voicemail being like-
30:32 - That was for a golf bobs.
30:34 Hold on one second.
30:35 - So like, even if you, let's say,
30:37 let's say the business thing was like a he said, she said,
30:40 which it doesn't sound like it is,
30:41 then handling your business that way is like horrible too.
30:45 So yeah, I mean, it sounds like it's not just Jersey Jerry
30:48 and a lot of people corroborating it, so not a good look.
30:52 - Yeah, the people corroborating it,
30:53 and then also I was talking to Whitney as well.
30:55 I think Jerry's going on chicklets today maybe.
30:59 And I was like, why don't you get Kevin Connelly on as well?
31:03 I was gonna say the ultimate thing is to have them-
31:05 - Have them, yeah, have Kevin Connelly
31:07 and Jersey Jerry talk on chicklets,
31:09 but I don't think Kevin Connelly wants to talk about it,
31:12 which makes me think like if someone was going around-
31:14 - 100%.
31:16 - Yeah, that's the thing.
31:17 - A scumbag, I'd be like, no, that's, I did not-
31:19 - If you don't answer, I'm almost 50.
31:21 I don't wanna talk about it.
31:22 You're like this fucking guy's-
31:23 - That, you know, I mean, Dave, you know better than anyone,
31:26 like when it comes to this shit,
31:28 there are sometimes two sides to a story and like-
31:30 - 100%.
31:31 - That's not how it went down.
31:32 But if you're never telling that side of the story-
31:34 - Correct. - Right.
31:35 - It's probably 'cause that side of the story doesn't help.
31:37 - And then when other people come out of the woodwork
31:39 being like, same thing, same thing, same thing,
31:41 it's tough to believe.
31:42 - 'Cause you can be an asshole,
31:43 like if it's just like Kelly Stafford
31:45 and then don't like him, like whatever,
31:47 but if you're doing bad business,
31:49 that's a whole different story.
31:50 - And let me tell you this.
31:51 I think Jerry's right.
31:54 Jerry's top five guys who get the money story dead wrong.
31:58 Like he's definitely can see things through like-
32:01 - Oh yeah. - Crazy eyes.
32:03 - So yeah. - Oh yeah.
32:03 - But I don't think that's the case here.
32:04 - But you gotta come out and say it, yeah.
32:06 - Correct.
32:07 When Jerry said this first time,
32:10 I'm not automatically like judge, jury and executioner
32:14 on Kevin Conley because it's Jerry.
32:16 But when there's silence and then everyone agrees,
32:19 then it's like,
32:20 I think Jerry's telling a dead ass truth here.
32:22 - Yeah, Kelly Stafford- - And I'm not saying
32:23 Jerry would intentionally mislead or say it wrong.
32:26 - He gets confused. - Jerry's crazy.
32:27 - He gets confused. - Correct.
32:29 - Yeah. - Yes.
32:29 - He gets confused.
32:30 - Um, Janks and David Stern.
32:34 What the fuck was that?
32:35 That was a crazy story.
32:36 Was that- - Oh, you don't know
32:37 that story, dude? - No.
32:38 - Tell me, tell me.
32:39 I don't know this. - All right.
32:40 - David Stern was Janks- - Well, his mentor.
32:42 - You know, do you know, like Janks?
32:44 So Janks has been,
32:46 Janks was trying to get into barstool for a very long time.
32:49 Like he- - I knew that.
32:50 - He likes, he, I'll say stalked.
32:52 I like Janks.
32:53 I could say stalked.
32:55 I think he wouldn't be upset about that.
32:57 He stalked us in LA when we were at the Superbowl.
33:01 He was just hanging out in our hotel lobby.
33:03 And then he started taking everyone on the yak
33:05 on a date to the Knicks.
33:08 And so we had him on and he was like,
33:09 "Yeah, I'm just a person, like,
33:11 I just am a relentless guy."
33:13 He said that he just started emailing David Stern
33:16 later on in David Stern's life,
33:18 being like, "I want to do a meeting.
33:20 I want to do a meeting."
33:21 And then finally just broke through
33:23 and ended up being like,
33:25 I think he said he got lunch with David Stern
33:26 like every month.
33:28 It's crazy.
33:29 The last like couple of years of David Stern's life,
33:31 he just, he's a dog.
33:32 Like Janks is a dog.
33:33 He'll just- - It's such a fine line.
33:35 I mean, I've had people do that to me before too.
33:37 Like they 100 of emailing you my resume or my blog.
33:40 - That's how Austin got job.
33:41 - Yeah, I don't want to encourage it
33:43 because 99% of the time it don't work.
33:45 - Yeah, sometimes it goes the other way
33:46 where it's like, well, you're being a weirdo
33:47 and this is like annoying,
33:49 but other times you catch him on a good day and he's dead.
33:52 - It's also like, there's a lot of people who,
33:55 and I don't hate the hustle,
33:56 but like a lot of people like,
33:57 "Oh, hire me, I'll get you coffee every day, I'll do that."
34:00 But we know like once you get in there,
34:01 you're just like, "Oh, I want to show, I want to do this."
34:03 Janks, I mean, he's Frank's guy.
34:06 Like he's not, you know, like he is like helping Frank.
34:11 That's his main job.
34:11 Like he is really like, he talks about it
34:14 and he walks the walk after.
34:15 - Yeah, what he did good was,
34:19 what's that thing PFD says?
34:21 No, it's about spelling, it's about telling.
34:23 He was good about not just saying,
34:26 "I'll be, I get a million, I'll be your best hire.
34:29 Let me prove it, let me do this."
34:30 And then they do not,
34:31 he just went out and started doing stuff.
34:33 - Do it, yeah.
34:34 - And he wasn't doing stuff that took any of my time
34:37 and he wasn't asking.
34:38 He became Frank's guy, whatever it may be, he just did it.
34:42 And then it became overwhelming.
34:43 It's like, "Hey, we have a spot for you."
34:45 Also the part of the story, which was crazy,
34:48 the part I heard.
34:48 So when David Stern dies,
34:51 I guess his secretary just saw Jenks' list as like,
34:56 "Here are my mentors."
34:57 Got invited to his funeral.
34:59 - Yeah.
35:00 - Like Michael Jordan, all these big fucking Jenks.
35:02 - Yeah, yeah.
35:03 He was like good friends with David Stern.
35:05 It's nuts.
35:06 - I don't know if you've heard this last one.
35:10 I don't almost want to ruin it, Dan.
35:12 But I heard there's potentially a loser leaves town.
35:16 - Oh, I saw it.
35:17 I saw it for rough and rowdy.
35:19 - Yeah.
35:20 - I saw it.
35:21 We got to do it.
35:22 - With who?
35:23 - Mikey Betts and one of the Abel brothers.
35:25 The loser leaves town.
35:26 That would be something.
35:28 - Listen, the Abel brothers, we don't talk about it much,
35:33 but like the Abel brothers crack me up so much.
35:35 - Oh yeah.
35:36 - They negotiate like they're Conor McGregor.
35:39 - Yeah, they want Tyson Fury money.
35:41 - Yeah.
35:41 - Can't blame them, can't deny the hustle.
35:43 - They DM me before every rough and rowdy card
35:45 they're not on.
35:46 They're like, "Good luck tonight.
35:47 It will fail.
35:48 No Abel brothers."
35:49 (laughing)
35:50 It's just like, it makes you laugh every time.
35:53 They're the best.
35:54 They're the best.
35:54 - I'd love to see that.
35:55 - I think we have to do it.
35:57 - Loser leaves town.
35:58 - Five rounds.
35:59 We got to do five rounds, Dave.
36:01 - With those two?
36:02 - Gas out.
36:03 - Yeah.
36:04 - That's it, absolutely.
36:05 Gas out.
36:05 Then you needed three.
36:06 It's loser leaves town.
36:07 What happens?
36:08 They both don't make it.
36:09 All right.
36:11 That's it.
36:12 It's a run now.
36:12 - All right, see you guys.
36:13 (whooshing)
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