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IR Interview: Koji Yakusho & Wim Wenders For “Perfect Days” [NEON] - Part I
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2/5/2024
Actor Koji Yakusho & Writer/Director Wim Wenders talk to The Inside Reel about process and approach in regards to their film: "Perfect Days" from NEON.
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>> [FOREIGN]
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>> Well, we've met many times.
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I think remember Don't Come Knocking when we were at Sundance with Sarah Pauly and
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Sam.
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But like that film, this film is about existence and
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what we believe about our existence.
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And yet, and I'll go to Koji after I ask you about this,
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the aspect of balancing the ideas of regret and joy with a bit of hope.
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Because you see both elements of this man throughout, and yet you see
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that it's yin and yang of the same exact thought process.
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>> Yep, and even in the last scene of the film,
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you don't quite know if he's laughing or if he's crying.
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Because you have a feeling he sees his life in front of him, and
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you have a feeling he's proud of the decision he's made.
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Maybe he has also some regrets.
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He's just seen his sister again after a long time.
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So he's confronted with his past.
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Even if we don't know much about his past, we are also confronted along with him.
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And so we feel he's looking at his future.
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Not that he's so much concerned about future.
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He's a man who lives very much in the here and now.
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But in that last scene, he leaves us just in the same limbo you just described of.
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Happiness, of hope, contentness, maybe a little regret here or there.
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And after all, he has made some choices in his life,
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and we see him live this life of choice.
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And we feel he's been probably more privileged before.
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He's not born as a toilet cleaner.
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But we see the choices he's made.
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The choices are reduction and not use more than he needs.
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And be content with what he has and look at each and
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every person as if they were equal.
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And he sees the homeless just as well as the banker who comes into his toilet.
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So you see his choices and you see that he's content.
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And that he's happy with his life.
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And that is something we're all longing for.
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And maybe after the pandemic even more than before, and
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we don't quite know how to get there.
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And he offers a few ideas.
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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>> Koji, could you talk about being in that moment?
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Being so many things at once, a human being is so many things.
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But to be inside this man who doesn't talk, who's very internal, and
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yet shows so much love in many ways.
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It must have been an interesting exercise as an actor to balance those things.
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>> [FOREIGN]
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>> [FOREIGN]
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>> There's also, and before I go back to Ben, Koji,
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the aspect there's a sense of play in him.
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He may not understand everybody's situation, but
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he accepts them for who they are, even the ex-husband.
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Or when you look at Kiko and the way she acts,
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you interact with each character with the same kind of sort of empathy.
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And sometimes empathy is a hard thing to put forth on screen.
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Could you talk about finding sort of that rhythm, but also working with them,
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who obviously knows so much about what he's doing.
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And finding that balance in order to make the characterization organic.
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>> [FOREIGN]
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>> [FOREIGN]
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>> [FOREIGN]
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>> We did end up shooting a lot without rehearsals,
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because we just shot the rehearsal.
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I mean, I was so happy with some of the things he offered me when we rehearsed and
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then shot that finally after a few days I said, why don't we shoot the rehearsal?
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Because this is almost always the most beautiful shot I could imagine,
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so let's just do it.
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And luckily, he allowed me to proceed like this.
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And the film therefore got a different tone.
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It is almost as if we are making a documentary on a totally fictional character.
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And that is something I've never done before, and
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I'm not quite sure if there's any example of a movie like this.
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[MUSIC]
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[LAUGH]
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