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00:00 Here from CLNS media joining you to preview Broncos week now the Patriots obviously took themselves a tough L last week
00:07 against the Kansas City Chiefs
00:09 It happens the homes will do that to you
00:12 And of course Patriots nation is probably hoping that the Patriots are gonna take an L on
00:17 Christmas so they can retain the number one
00:19 Oh the number two overall spot could be number one overall depending on what happens with the Panthers in the next few weeks
00:24 But for right now, that's where they are. If you're team tank, frankly, I'm with you
00:29 I got to write the previews see how they can win these games
00:32 But if you're being realistic, it's probably best if they lose but there is no tanking between the whistles
00:37 So to preview this game, I've got my boy Robbie here from the LTV podcast
00:42 He is my go-to Broncos expert Robbie. Honestly, there's a lot of kind of fake information
00:49 I feel like based on your timeline when it comes to the Broncos and people kind of jump into conclusions because you got Sean Payton
00:55 You got Russell Wilson. Those are guys with established careers where you kind of make your assumptions
00:59 But this is a new era that they're in. So first of all before we get into the nitty-gritty
01:04 How are you my friend? And how are you feeling about this matchup coming up? I'm great
01:09 I'm great. And I really just want to say that it's great to be on here connect with my guy do it live
01:15 It's just awesome. It's awesome. And I think as far as the matchup goes, I think we're gonna get you know
01:20 One of those really classic Broncos Patriots games, you know, it's not Manning and Brady anymore, but it's gonna be a really physical
01:28 low scoring
01:31 possibly just
01:32 football great football
01:34 And the thing is it's almost still like kind of a continued rivalry for Russell Wilson
01:40 Dude has never had a pass rating below a hundred and ten
01:44 Facing the Patriots in his entire career. That's including the Super Bowl
01:48 That's including the was at the 2016 matchup where it's the shot to Gronk in the end zone against camp Chancellor
01:54 He's been money against the Pat's so we're gonna get a chance to see how this more modern Belichick defense
02:00 Obviously, it's got plenty of injuries
02:01 It's not the unit that's a full strength
02:03 But we'll be able to see how Belichick has matured in terms of how he defends Russ and how Russ has matured in his own
02:09 Way in terms of you know the play extension, but also not quite as frenetic
02:13 I feel like he's a veteran a little more calm as to his game
02:17 But actually kind of to that point I'm going a little off script here, but when it comes to Russ
02:21 I know Belichick kind of highlighted his play extension ability his scrambling and based on what I watched
02:27 It honestly to me seemed like he still got that where you know, he's buying time
02:31 But it's not in the same Mahomes fashion where it's kind of running around a little bit
02:35 It seems more like he's still working within the pocket
02:38 Just eluding rushers and the scrambles aren't really the prime Russ scrambles, of course because he's an older quarterback
02:44 But it seems like he's got just enough juice almost like him the homes where it's like 39
02:49 He's getting you right to the yard line and nothing more
02:52 So, how would you say based on what you saw from us early in his Broncos career?
02:57 Maybe even before that relative to what he is now under Sean Payton. How is he matured and changed? I
03:02 think I mean this guy is a
03:05 Completely different player than the one that we saw that last year and I think it all starts with the fact that he he's 15
03:12 Pounds lighter like whoever made that decision for us to bulk up going into last season
03:17 Just does not deserve to be around him because he lost all of his
03:23 Maneuverability all of all the athleticism last season
03:27 He was a statue in the pocket and that's an area of his game where he's just not great at and coming out this season
03:33 Just looks like a completely different guy. He looks
03:36 Similar to old Russ, you know, he's not completely there yet
03:39 But he's just he's evading guys
03:42 He's getting himself to a more
03:44 Advantageous platform to throw the ball and he's not doing it in like your point the early Seattle days to run off and you know
03:51 And throw bombs he's doing it to set himself up in a better position to make a play
03:55 Down the field through his reads and within the structure of the offense, you know, we haven't really seen it
04:01 perfect to this point and that's definitely still a huge knock on his game and it's something that I know Sean Payton is just
04:09 That drives him up a wall watching him in the pocket sometimes and all these misses that are on tape
04:14 But it's encouraging to see
04:17 That he was able to bring that sort of style back into his game compared to last year
04:22 but at the same time
04:24 It's not necessarily at a level that warrants the contract or the trade that they made for him
04:30 And that's another thing that I think
04:32 There's really two different conversations that are being had about Russell Wilson in Broncos country and around the league
04:37 It's is he a good quarterback and on the other side of that is is he worth what he got?
04:43 and to me that's I
04:45 Don't love looking at it that way
04:48 Although it is a good lens to look at it from because this is a team-building sport
04:52 But when you will hold him to his contract standard
04:56 the guy's gonna have to be almost perfect every single week to be able to warrant that and I just
05:02 Partly think that's a little bit unfair because this is somebody who's playing at such a high level compared to last year
05:08 And one thing we talked about before the show and we're kind of talking about guys worth their value, etc
05:15 Jerry Judy was someone who was heavily tied to the Patriots before this season
05:19 They were involved in trade talks didn't work out
05:22 You had the whole like Steve Smith tirade
05:24 Like a month or two ago where he just went in on Jerry Judy and I saw that and I was like
05:30 Was Steve Smith out of pocket? Hell? Yes, like not necessary
05:35 But at the same time you respect how he evaluates players, especially when it comes to toughness and consistency
05:40 So do you think the Patriots made a mistake not pulling the trigger on Jerry Judy? And if not, why I
05:46 Don't think they did at all
05:48 I think they made the correct decision especially when you factor in all the reports that the Broncos were asking for I
05:54 mean a second or a third maybe and I think if a
05:59 Team like the Patriots were to give up that draft capital for a player like Judy. It would look more of a
06:06 desperation move to me because
06:09 Judy is a guy, you know, we're going on year what for now and every single year
06:15 everybody's talking about the potential this guy has what plays he could possibly be making in the future and
06:21 It's only been potential to this point
06:23 He really hasn't tapped into any of the things that people want him to be and I'm one of them early on in Judy's career
06:31 I went to bat for him every single game and to a point I still do
06:35 but I mean if you're gonna freelance on your routes the way that he does sometimes and if you're gonna
06:41 Take extra time getting into your breaks because you want to put a few more feet in the ground
06:48 You got to be reliable and you have to have the production to warrant that and I don't think that he's been there yet
06:54 And I don't think that the Patriots in the position that they are should be giving up draft capital of that high
06:59 for a player like that
07:01 So here's the thing you mentioned desperation. I
07:04 Think the Patriots is pretty desperate spot to be fair at this point now pulling the trigger on Jared Judy
07:10 Like you said with the freelancing
07:11 It's one thing when you got Russell Wilson and it's still not working when you got packet passers like Mac Jones and Bailey's happy
07:18 The freelance and stuff like we kind of seen him with type 1 Thornton even where he takes extra steps and it's just like my guy
07:23 Turn around you gotta get to your spot on time from your perspective an outside perspective
07:29 How did the Patriots get here? How did they become?
07:32 Arguably the worst team. I don't even know if it's arguable the worst team in the Bill Belichick era and in your
07:38 In your perspective, how do you think they can improve not to get too deep?
07:43 I'm not asking for like a full draft evaluation
07:45 but like what does this team need to change from an outside view I
07:48 think you know for me, it's
07:51 When it comes to Bill Belichick
07:54 He is without a doubt one of the greatest coaches this game has ever and will ever see and I think for that reason
08:02 he has bought himself a little bit of leeway with his the decisions that they have to make what their coaching future and
08:08 When we're talking about Bill Belichick, we should be talking about two different Bill Belichick
08:14 We should be talking about Bill Belichick the coach
08:16 And Bill Belichick the general manager my man. Yes, sir
08:21 Yes, sir, Bill Belichick the general manager has put Bill Belichick the coach in
08:26 so many
08:28 terrible spots since Brady has left and
08:32 Even while Brady was there to a certain degree, but Tom Brady was able to you know, keep the ship afloat
08:38 So I think for them they just got to start from the ground up in that perspective
08:42 Get some guys maybe in the room that can be a different
08:45 Viewpoint for Belichick or just bring a guy in to completely be a general manager and let Bill be the coach
08:51 Which is something I know at his point in his career
08:53 he might be opposed to but I think that's probably the best thing that they can do right now and just
08:58 get the guy a quarterback because Belichick is still to this day an
09:03 Amazing defensive coach like so with all the things I'm seeing about the Patriots and I watch them on film
09:09 I'm thinking like this is a guy who the game has passed him up that has not happened at all
09:14 Not on defense at least not on defense
09:17 Like, you know the numbers don't say
09:22 Top one defense, but they don't have to be like they're so well coached and Bill is still
09:29 Combating the league trends in a way where he's never gonna be passed up
09:34 I remember early on when they played Miami
09:36 Everybody was talking about McDaniels motions and all these things and nobody could stop it
09:41 and I remember they came out and to combat those motions they would get into sort of like a to invert look and
09:48 The Dolphins didn't know how to react to that and to a couldn't process that quick enough to be able to combat it
09:55 So something like that like that's invaluable
09:59 You aren't gonna find a coach on the market who's going to be able to problem solve in the season and during a game like
10:04 Bill so I think it all starts from the ground up
10:07 I think you keep bill you let him you give him a three-year pass
10:11 Let's say just to throw a number out there
10:13 If bill the general manager still puts bill the coach in terrible situations
10:17 Then you have a decision to make but to me bill Belichick is still bill Belichick
10:21 Get him a guy get him a quarterback and you're rolling
10:26 Bill Belichick the GM I feel like he is at the end of his leash
10:30 but the coach man if he was willing to give up general manager control and
10:35 Really just give the I'm not sure how much of the offense he's given to Bill O'Brien based on past history
10:41 I'm assuming it is Bill O'Brien's offense and he's only coming over the other side when he has to
10:45 But defensively man every week you're seeing like the the pattern recognition the depth like they play so much man
10:52 And usually you say man is like, all right, we're gonna pick you off
10:54 It's really hard to pick off the Patriots because they know everything you've been throwing at teams
10:58 So like you have to get an Andy Reid where it's like, okay
11:01 I know you bill we both been in this game a long time like the touchdown with Jarrett McKinnon pitch into Ray
11:06 She's like I'm gonna show your defense something they have never seen before every single phase of play recognition
11:12 I'm just gonna throw a wrench in it and confuse the hell out of them
11:14 I can go on about Belichick for a while, but this is a Broncos preview show
11:19 So before we get into the film, I gotta ask you
11:22 Guys got blown out. They were on a little win streak
11:24 They were doing pretty well, but they lost was it two of their last three games got blown out in Detroit. What's going on there? I
11:32 Just think that they caught a pretty lucky break with their winning streak because they were playing teams that were built in a way
11:40 That they could be successful
11:43 You know
11:44 The Browns game was really the only game to me where it was like, okay
11:48 They faced a better team and they just dominated in all phases of the game now the Lions
11:54 It was the complete opposite like those guys this to me this defense
11:59 Vance Joseph has done an incredible job and it's just such a cool thing to see, you know
12:04 We always talk about player development within a system
12:07 But we're seeing Vance Joseph as time goes on really start to learn the intricate details of the defense that Sean Payton wanted him to run
12:15 But you still got to have guys you really still gonna have guys no matter how smart you are as a coach
12:20 You got to have guys and up front. They just don't you know, DJ Jones isn't really playing at a level
12:26 Where they thought he would be playing at when they made the move for him. I still love him
12:30 I think he's playing good, but he's not playing, you know, he's not carrying that defensive front the way that he was last year
12:36 They don't have depth on defensive line linebackers is really a question mark, although they have the big tackle numbers
12:43 But when they play a team who can really just get physical and get downhill
12:47 That's a huge problem and then you take them away from their identity on offense
12:53 Which is to be physical as well and to control the game through the running game because when you get down like that
12:58 You gotta throw the ball. You really got to throw the ball and get back in it and that's just not where their edge is
13:04 Offensively, so whenever they play somebody who is physical up front. It's just gonna be a recipe for disaster
13:13 We're gonna get more to that downhill style on offense a little later real quick
13:17 So the Broncos by I think it's EPA per player like the sixth worst rated run defense or something like that
13:23 The thing is the Patriots played another one of the worst run defense in the league last week in the Chiefs
13:28 They could barely get a yard
13:30 It's because the Chiefs loaded the box and they blitz the hell out of New England because they weren't afraid of their passing attack
13:36 like there were times where you would see like zero looks on first down or the safeties are like crouching down and
13:41 Trying to scary a little bit and Bill O'Brien and Bill Belichick both mentioned like we got it do better because the Broncos are gonna
13:47 Show us the same thing that Casey showed us that Pittsburgh showed us and I'm not having a remandering Stevenson
13:52 They can't compensate for the fact that the offense can't pick up these aggressive schemes
13:57 So do you think the Patriots have a chance at success or do you think that the Broncos are gonna be aggressive?
14:02 Dare them to throw and take away the run
14:04 Absolutely. I think the Patriots are gonna have a window to win this game. Absolutely
14:10 I mean this when you think about the Broncos season in these last three games
14:15 you're looking at a team who they have to win out if they want to be in the playoffs and
14:19 This game on paper to them probably looks like okay, you know, we've got the Patriots, but we're at home Christmas Eve
14:27 This that and third they're not really, you know, the Patriots of old
14:30 No, this team is built in a way where they can handle Denver like they can completely handle Denver
14:37 they're built in the same sort of
14:40 Philosophically, they're built in the same sort of way as Detroit because you know, they want to be physical and they want to be downhill
14:46 They don't necessarily I don't want to say don't have the guys because I love some of the guys that they have up front
14:52 offensively, but it just hasn't really come into fruition and
14:55 I think if they can sort of tap into that sort of running game in a way that they wanted to against the Chiefs
15:02 I think it's gonna be a back-and-forth game and it's really gonna be one of those just like
15:06 Hardcore football games for the Broncos and the Patriots. I
15:09 Don't like that. They have an avenue to win this game because I thought the same thing
15:14 I was hoping you would tell me the opposite sound like damn. They really couldn't mess up their drafts even after this game
15:20 All right. Well, I guess it's gonna be more competitive than a lot of people at Fast Nation
15:24 What if you want to win I'm happy for you. I'm sincerely happy for you
15:28 It pains me to be rooting for a team that I grew up rooting for
15:32 Just in a position where losing is their best bet long term, but hey
15:36 All I want is a competitive game get rust the ball last and let him work his magic
15:41 We're gonna dive deeper into the film specifically the physicality that you mentioned
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16:30 Our Robbie so I'm gonna throw your screen up real quick quick intro though
16:38 We talked about this the Broncos physicality
16:41 That's been the name of the game for them getting downhill
16:43 Patriots are actually in a pretty similar position where a lot of their success when they were having sex on the ground success in the
16:49 Ground game was coming from their ability to get downhill City
16:52 So was in the lineup and that really helped kind of solidify especially the bright side
16:56 It's City so and Mike when you that's trouble a lot of the time
16:59 So for the Broncos first
17:02 Who are the guys up front that are given the opportunity to be this successful?
17:06 And what do you expect to see just right before we get into the film?
17:09 so up front this
17:11 this rushing offense and this offense in general really just is
17:18 Through Quinn minors, you know
17:20 He was like a dart throw from George Payton who really worked out
17:24 Because he's one of the best guards in the NFL right now, and he's just so dominant and so physical down low
17:30 It's they want to get the ball through him and they want to get him pulling they want to get him downhill
17:35 Wherever they can get him on another guy in the run game
17:39 They are going to look to do that, but they also have guys all around that offensive line
17:44 This is probably the best Broncos offensive line that we've seen in a very long time like
17:50 We've got McGlinchey who in the passing game is a great. I won't lie. He's not great. He's been accountable though
17:56 I've seen the interviews. He's accountable
17:58 But in that rushing game like you've got minors and you've got McGlinchey who comes from that Shanahan scheme
18:04 Who's just so good in the rushing game?
18:06 But you also have bowls who's really coming into his own as a Bronco with all this continuity on coaching staffs now
18:13 He's really really really coming into his own. He's a well-rounded player at at first. He wasn't the greatest in run
18:19 run blocking
18:21 You know pass blocking was more of his forte
18:24 But now I mean he's just so well-rounded and another guy in that sort of mold is Lloyd Cushenberry their center
18:31 Early on he was another dart throw and it wasn't looking great for him. But this season he has just been absolutely incredible
18:39 Hell yeah. Alright, so let's dive into the film see these guys in action. It's cool if I share your screen
18:44 Let me just get the clip up for you. Oh good
18:49 This is the beauty of a live show you get to see all the in-between us figuring stuff out. It's all good
18:55 All right, all right
19:08 All right, so this is exciting to see oh, I'm sorry, I got you I was gonna get filler you're good. All right, go go go
19:14 All right. So this first play here this is you know
19:17 Really more of an example of what I was talking about earlier where they just on offense
19:23 They want to be physical and they want to get downhill
19:25 That's what they want to do and it's interesting because early on in the season
19:29 They didn't really know where their edge was offensively
19:33 So they kind of tapped into what a lot of the rest of the league was doing and they tried to get into some
19:39 Zone running and they tried all these different things
19:42 But once they started to really tap into the under center downhill gap scheme toward a sort of runs
19:48 That's where they have found their success and that's where they have found their sustainability. So a play like this, you know, it's
19:55 eight nine yard gain
19:57 But they're getting into what they want to do and they're dictating
20:01 What they want to do offensively and what the defense is going to do defensively
20:05 So this is just going to be an under center downhill duo run
20:09 Javante is going to press the a and what you're gonna see is you're gonna see a
20:16 Great ace block on duo, which is a center and guard double team working up to the second level
20:22 They get that double team on 91 and they really create a hole there
20:26 but also frontside they get a doom block from the guard and the tackle and
20:31 When you get both of these doubles on duo, which is the point of duo
20:37 You want to get double teams at the point of attack and you're just like vertically displacing the defensive line
20:43 That's where these holes come in and that's where a runner like Javante can really tap into that and it's just awesome to see
20:50 I'll let it play out
20:52 So you see he gets the ball
20:55 And he could if he wanted to he could just go straight through that hole where cushion Barry is
21:00 Troutman on the left side the offense's left side the tight end does a good job of coming in and
21:06 Digging out that Mike backer. Mm-hmm
21:10 Is that an insert was he on the edge my bad? Yeah. Yeah, he was okay
21:15 That was an insert and he just did a great job of just getting in there and digging that guy out
21:20 So Javante had you know, he pressed the a he thought he had run to the left B gap
21:25 Got there
21:26 things sort of closed up shot back to the right because there was a hole there because of the
21:31 Doom block and it was just a great run and
21:34 The thing is the pads again. This is to be fair
21:38 This is the Chiefs who like we said one of the worst run defenses in the league
21:41 Pats are by far the best this season. So from your purse. Oh my bad. So from your perspective
21:50 Beauty live shows but how they done against some of the better run defenses they face have there been struggles
21:57 Have they shown the ability to adapt has that worked out for?
22:00 so
22:02 Against the better run defenses. They have sort of you know, they're not the Browns or the 49ers
22:10 They're not gonna gash whoever they go up against
22:12 But they have been able to do enough to where they can find their edge
22:16 Offensively and get into what they want to do because when you can have success in those under center downhill runs
22:22 That opens up your under center play play action offense in your passing offense
22:27 So whenever you can get just a respectable rushing offense from under center
22:32 That's where they want to be and they've really been able to do that against most teams that they face
22:37 I won't lie. This team sees a lot of
22:40 possible tackle for losses
22:44 Guys shoot through gaps on this team. I don't know what it is
22:48 structurally or
22:50 Technically predictability. Is it like just they use the same looks all the time? It definitely could be you know
22:56 They one of their biggest tells is whenever Jalil McLaughlin's on the field. I love him
23:03 You know, he's a great story and he was a great player early on but when he's on the field
23:07 Teams know what they want to do because he's not in a place at his career yet
23:13 You know, he's a smaller guy in stature. So he's not a great pass blocker
23:18 So when he's in the game, it's gonna be one of two things and they've shown this look all year on tape
23:23 Anybody can watch this tape and see this anytime. He's on the field. It's gonna be a like a little flare-out screen to him or
23:30 It's just gonna be a zone run from or his own run or sweep from shotgun
23:36 Those are the two things they get from him occasionally
23:39 They'll switch it up and they'll throw a toss out there
23:41 but those are the things they get and when defenses and especially second level players can key in on that and they have
23:48 Respectable gap integrity. They're just gonna shoot through like they're always just gonna shoot through and they see a lot of that
23:55 But both of these running backs McLaughlin and Javante, especially in the running game has done
24:00 They both have done a great job at making that initial defender miss
24:04 So they avoid a lot of the tackle for losses that they could possibly see just because of their talent
24:10 Now that's interesting because the Pats like I said very good run defense
24:14 A lot of is the fact that Jelani to buy and you want Bentley when they're at the second level
24:17 They diagnose so quickly, especially if there's a key that they can already see like wants to play a snap
24:22 If they see the back on one direction or the other they're like, yep
24:25 I'm firing downhill and they don't miss tackles very often. So we'll see that's gonna be a good test where can they
24:32 Take advantage of the fact that one you can get downhill and diagnose run quickly and also bring them down
24:38 in turn some of those plays with the backs turn which would be a tackle for loss to a solid game and the true tackles for
24:44 Loss and shut that down and I'll show you I talked about the linebackers
24:48 But the guy who I think the Broncos should be really afraid of is Christian far more. Let me show you why
24:53 So this is like a classic Andy Reid type scheme where they're gonna have create Humphrey
24:58 Try to pull on a trap to take out Josh Uche
25:01 But they're also gonna have the fullback coming around because it's actually a wind back zone
25:06 Where Clyde Edwards Slager is gonna start coming this way and then he's just gonna try to get the defense to flow one way
25:12 Come back downhill
25:14 Christian bar more is not having any of that. He is right here
25:18 I just want you to watch what he does again
25:20 Creed Humphrey is trying to pull to take out Uche and this is what bar more does to stop it
25:26 In sane recognition and this is one thing that DeMarcus Covington mentioned this week
25:33 We asked him like Christian bar more has always been a really good pass rusher. The efforts been there
25:38 He's always been really good with his hands. He chains moves together. So well, and he's a great athlete
25:43 But we're saying so what is it that's made him such a dominant force this year because as a run defender
25:49 He's been one of the best in the league and that used to be a serious liability
25:52 Do you remember the Jonathan Taylor run against the Pats a few years ago where he broke it and won them the game pretty much?
25:57 That was off a double team on bar more. He got completely overwhelmed stood up and they went right off him
26:03 He's not that same guy anymore
26:04 And one of the things that Marcus Covington mentioned pag level power obviously but block recognition and the ability for him to so quickly
26:12 Realize what's going on? He sees where he's already slanting into the gap
26:16 But he sees that he's not getting blocked by the guard who's in front of him. So he knows well somebody's probably coming for me
26:21 Immediately just gets in the way
26:24 Gets in the backfield tackle for loss
26:27 He's been so fun to watch man, and he is gonna be a real threat
26:31 So I gave you guys a little preview not giving you that yet just a little bit
26:35 But have they faced any obviously Chris Jones, but he's not really a run defender
26:40 Like if you if you give him some layups or something, he'll take advantage of but usually you see the backside
26:45 He's chasing down not doing a ton
26:46 Have they faced in a really good guys who've been at the point of attack consistently?
26:50 And how do you think that they've managed those situations? I?
26:53 Don't think they've seen guys at the sort of level that bar more is playing out right now because listen
26:59 He's one of my favorite defense players in the league like me personally. I
27:03 Love like those big to gap possible players in the inside who can just wreck offenses
27:11 I love that so watching him is always fun to me
27:14 And they just really haven't played somebody on the interior who can really do that consistently, you know
27:20 They played some good players and again, I go back to that Browns game because Miles Garrett, although he wasn't obviously on the interior
27:27 Miles Garrett coming into that game. I was terrified and if I'm terrified as a fan
27:33 I can't imagine what the coaching staff is going through leading up to that game and when they got into that game
27:38 He did get injured late
27:40 but Miles Garrett was pretty much a non-factor like the entire game and both run defense and
27:48 Passing like he had I want to say two pressures. That's off the top of my head
27:51 Don't quote me on it
27:52 But I think he had two pressers and he had one cleanup sack that was at the end of the game
27:57 But like for an offense to be able to control and handle a guy like that
28:03 Miles Garrett who to me is hands-down the best defensive line player in the NFL
28:08 Like that's huge. They haven't played like an Aaron Donald
28:13 But when you get reps against a guy like Garrett and you're able to control him
28:17 I think that really shows that
28:19 Just the level of game planning that they have from that offensive staff like they know how to handle guys now a guy like Barmore
28:26 He's just a physical and talented freak like he's gonna get his place
28:30 So I don't think they're just gonna come in and completely shut him down the way that they did Garrett
28:35 But I think they have a pretty good shot
28:37 And they got bar more and and pretty Jennings to take care of and Devon got I mean
28:41 This is one of the best run defenses in the past decade by you know
28:45 All the metrics so to be fair, it's not easy
28:48 But it's gonna be a fun matchup because that's the identity for the Broncos and the Patriots
28:51 Especially this late in the season
28:53 There's not a lot to hang on to when you can't even make the playoffs and when you're pretty sure your season's done by
28:58 The midpoint but that defense plays with a ton of pride in a ton of resilience. They've been a ton of fun to watch
29:03 That's gonna be a good matchup
29:05 Well people, you know the Broncos identity may be getting downhill people aren't coming to Broncos games for the run
29:11 They're coming for Russ
29:13 We got a couple rust with a couple rust clips that we're gonna show and the first one is Russ getting it done in the red
29:20 Area, so I'm gonna throw off the screen real quick
29:24 Go perfect look at this madman work
29:33 This to me, you know
29:40 When you look at an offensive play and
29:42 It's just one of those like seven-yard gains or taking. Okay, cool. They got a nice game
29:47 but
29:48 What really goes into those seven-yard gains to me is?
29:52 just one of the most fun things to watch as a football fan and
29:57 Especially when it's your team's quarterback who is doing it like when we're talking about Russell Wilson
30:03 We're talking about a guy who has dominated the league
30:07 Based on his physical talent, you know
30:09 There have been a lot of knocks on Russell Wilson whether they're warranted or not on his processing on on his pre snap
30:16 quarterbacking
30:19 in
30:20 The Denver Broncos orange with Sean Payton this year
30:24 To me. He's a completely different player when it comes to pre snap processing like he has so much
30:32 Responsibility on his shoulders when he goes into that huddle every single play like you can tell on tape that Payton gives him
30:39 So much to decipher and sort through before that snap and this is one example of that
30:46 So they're gonna come out in an empty look and this is down the stretch against the Vikings. This is the game-winning drive
30:51 So this is even even bigger of a moment for us
30:55 So they're gonna come out in an empty look and they're gonna get a one high look from the defense
30:59 And you know the Vikings defense and Brian Flores
31:02 Whatever they're showing you chances are that's not gonna be what you're getting. Yeah, they got experience with that
31:08 They got out in that empty look with P Ryan out to the boundary and what they're gonna get is they're gonna get P
31:15 Ryan to come back into the formation to Russ's right to see how that linebacking core in that
31:20 Defensive front sort of reacts to it
31:23 You know, they want to see their structure before that snap and they want to see the defense tip their hand
31:30 They didn't really get much information out of that
31:32 so what Russell Wilson is gonna do is he's gonna get back to the line and check to something else and
31:38 flip P run to the opposite side and
31:40 What that's gonna do is that's gonna bring that safety down to really cement the fact that Russ is gonna get a one-high look here
31:48 And he's gonna check to a play where he knows he's going to be able to get a check down to P Ryan
31:54 For some good yardage, so he checks the play P Ryan comes back into the formation
32:00 They didn't really get what they wanted. They checked to a different play P run flips to the offense's left
32:05 They get some more information out of it and the play they check to
32:09 He's just there's no one around him. They get into sort of like a three buzz kind of look
32:14 and
32:16 What that's gonna do is when you're getting in these three buzz looks the check downs are paramount against cover three
32:22 Like they just are and they got to that three buzz look Russ knows that okay
32:28 They're gonna be in one high because all these different things that we did. That's all they showed
32:32 they didn't try to tip their hand so they got to that check down look and
32:36 Like again, this is like just a regular eight seven yard gain
32:41 But to me like the quarterbacking that comes with it. It's just awesome
32:46 That's the stuff like the little things in between every down that do excite you when you really study the quarterback position
32:53 It's do you understand how to find what the defense is trying to do?
32:57 Obviously a lot of that is also the offensive coordinator putting you in position to be able to do that
33:01 But being able to not only see what the defense is doing make the appropriate checks and most importantly post snap
33:06 What are you doing? If you see guys bail quickly sometimes just take the yardage
33:11 Especially if it's an early down, you don't need to get a shot necessarily if it's there, you know
33:15 You want to see your guys take it?
33:16 but in the clip that I found for this one is kind of similar because one thing is
33:20 Like you said you want to take the check down against really conservative kind of zone coverages where they're just going and bailing at the snap
33:27 Lower isn't the Patriots with their more aggressive units do that a ton Patriots weren't super aggressive last season
33:33 Like they rarely use cover zero. They mostly just showed it and played cover two out of it this season
33:38 We're seeing a little bit of both so offenses really don't know what they're trying to do and another thing
33:42 I was thinking if it's Russ so we talked about it's not the crazy like, you know, kind of
33:47 Ridiculous scramble where he's going all over the place and you're just like it's a mad - it's really like subtle movements in the pocket
33:54 And things like that
33:54 But still the play extension ability is there and there was a play last week from the Chiefs
33:59 Then I thought was a good example of what you know
34:02 We could see from Russ if he's just trying to be cerebral quarterback just play ahead of the change and make smart decisions
34:07 So like I said the Patriots this season have used a lot more cover zero
34:11 what they do out of that and it's even more effective because they have the real threat of it is
34:15 They a lot of the time will bail out and play cover two out of it
34:19 Because usually if you see a cover zero look you're gonna try to adjust with some kind of quick play or you can use max
34:25 Protection whatever cover two is usually a really good solution for anything that someone's trying to use to beat a blitz
34:31 So here Patriots showing something like zero because you got the two guys
34:36 You got Jelani to vine Juwan Bentley mug in the interior right there and then you got a safe use deep
34:43 But based on alignment you're thinking alright, so maybe duggers on the tight end
34:47 Maybe this is man coverage here here here not totally sure what you're gonna get
34:52 but then you see Juwan Bentley goes from the line of scrimmage and
34:56 Basically ends up being a safety. So this is Tampa to coverage where it's covered too
35:01 But the interior hook defender right here is we call it running the pole where he's basically just trying to take the inside most
35:09 Vertical threat follow him up the field and make sure that the void that you have between the safeties can't be exploited so easily
35:16 So Juwan Bentley I talked to him about this today one of his best qualities. He's like
35:20 255 260 pound linebacker. He's a throwback type. I call them basically a defensive lineman at the second level
35:26 But when you can get to your spot
35:29 Expeditiously as TI would put it that's gonna take a lot of the pressure off your coverage
35:33 But what happens is my home is able to buy some time
35:36 You see I think this is a penalty against Jeremiah farms to be fair
35:40 But you know think it called so whatever the homes
35:42 Subtle pocket movements able to buy time and what the Chiefs do specifically is my homes loves to hit that boy between the hashes
35:50 I don't know if it's a lot of their play designs where they have a lot of drive and dagger
35:53 Concepts where it's specifically tacking the inside of the field
35:56 but he loves just have one of his guys sit in that middle of the field and make themselves available and you see that right here
36:03 Where Bentley is doing his job?
36:05 This is not a throw that you can make and you'll take that but it's also not easy when you got a receiver
36:10 He was sitting well past the sticks for an easy first down
36:13 Russ eventually finds him. That's an explosive game when really the defense did everything, right?
36:19 So based on that
36:23 Do you think that's something we're gonna see more from Russ where sometimes you just kind of take what you're gonna get or do you
36:29 Think from him have you seen any instances where sometimes he does force it downfield or really is he kind of?
36:34 Veteran quarterback where I'm just gonna take what I want to get basically what I'm asking is are the Patriots gonna get any freebies. I
36:40 Think listen you brought up a great point with whenever they get into those
36:46 cover to looks that
36:49 When they get that pipe player who's gonna be all the way down the field and they have that void in the middle of the
36:54 Field where they can just have somebody play and be an over-the-ball route, whatever it is
36:58 That ain't gonna happen for us that over whatever reason if there's a route in the middle of the field
37:05 That is going to be open because of the structure of the defense or the coverage whatever it may be
37:10 That ball ain't going there like chances are that bowling gone. Glad you I'm glad you said that
37:16 I'm glad you and it's just so frustrating because
37:19 that's the bread and butter of Sean Payton's drop back offense and
37:25 When Russ gets outside of the pocket and when he starts to extend things, he's looking outside the numbers and
37:32 When we're talking about outside of the pocket and passing downfield
37:38 That's a lower percentage area of the field when you're extending a play
37:44 Compared to the middle of the field to me more often than not like if it's in a cross-body to the middle of the field
37:49 That's as low percentage as you're gonna get
37:52 But when you're facing a too high structure
37:55 There's going to be a void in the middle of the field somewhere
37:59 Whether it's to the weak side to the strong side or in this case
38:03 Right in front of a pipe player in Tampa - there's gonna be a void there and it's just so
38:09 important that if you're gonna break the structure of the offense and
38:13 Extend that's where you have to look and we're seeing with the Patriots. They're
38:18 just so
38:21 Too high
38:23 It's like they just love to hide they get into too high
38:27 more than people would think more than people would think because it's how they
38:30 disguise it is the stuff is zero the man looks and then they like to get into quarters or cover -
38:35 Because it's the exact opposite of what you're expecting
38:38 So when they get into that and if you're not willing to take where that void is in the middle of the field
38:43 They're just gonna do everything right and things are gonna be smothered all over the field. So it's just
38:48 frustrating to watch on tape
38:50 And I love that you said that because watching him I was looking at the Detroit tape and I was looking at like some of his
38:55 Longer drop backs and he had two big plays where he scrambled it bought time. Both were outside the numbers
39:00 So I'm thinking like all right, I'm not seeing a lot of stuff over the middle of the field
39:04 I tried I tried so hard
39:06 To get some Patriots to be like so how do I like my homes and Russ when they send plays?
39:12 How are they different because it's not the same I was like waiting for somebody to tell me like they don't throw to the same
39:18 Part of the field, of course, it's a Patriots. They're buttoned up
39:20 They're smarter than that and they were like, yeah, not depends on the situation the play call. I'm just like I
39:25 Think we I think we all know that it's not the same thing
39:30 They break down and they like to do different things. So thank you for that
39:33 So when you have that kind of blind spot the Russ has where everybody talks about like, you know, you short quarterback
39:38 You don't like throw them a little the field. It's not like the short quarterbacks necessarily
39:41 Dissuading those notions. They're kind of just playing right into him, but that plays in the Patriots hand
39:46 That's why I'm saying like are there gonna be any freebies because if they know Russ is gonna throw outside
39:51 Then if there's that cloud defender who's just waiting and he's like, alright, I'm gonna midpoint it
39:56 I know where the underneath route is. I also know there's somebody behind me
39:59 So I'm just gonna get a little scary up dad makes it a lot tougher. Alright, so that excites me
40:04 Okay, I thought I was crazy because I asked
40:06 Nobody acknowledged that there was any difference. They were like, no, they're both just good exciting plays
40:11 I'm like, alright you guys are giving the company line. I get it. Alright, we got one more play. This is the red zone play
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41:28 All right, so we talked about Russ and just his ability to go through his pre-snap process get the ball to the smart place
41:35 Just take what the defense gives you but now we're talking about the red area
41:39 We don't necessarily have the advantage being like, you know what?
41:42 I'm just gonna take this check down red zone. You take a check down. It might get stopped for like two yards
41:46 You're not really gonna get a lot more. So
41:48 What do you see from this plane? Why is this something the Patriots are gonna need to worry about?
41:55 I'm not showing the people your screen this time. I'm gonna show them what a brilliant man you are. They've already seen it
41:59 All right
42:02 perfect, so
42:04 Really just to piggyback on your point. The check downs are not going to be an
42:09 advantageous option down in the red area
42:12 and when we're talking about Russell Wilson and we're talking about a guy who's going to
42:16 Extend the pocket extend the play and get outside the pocket in the red zone
42:21 that's even more frustrating to deal with as a defense because
42:25 like these guys
42:27 They're so focused and keyed in on spots more than they are to the rest of the field when they're down in the red area
42:34 so when there is
42:36 plays that you know Russ
42:39 Operates within the pocket in the red area that really accentuates the offense and that elevates the offense to me and this play
42:49 Really goes into what I was talking about earlier with his pre snap
42:53 Processing and it's from the same game
42:56 Which to me was probably Russ's best game as a Bronco against the Vikings just because he handled everything that was thrown at him
43:02 This is another example of that
43:04 So and this is another perfect example because the Vikings are showing sort of a zero look
43:10 Similar to what the Patriots show it down in the red zone. So it's even more relevant to the topic here
43:17 So they're gonna get sort of a zero look and what Russ is gonna do is he's gonna alert
43:23 Sutton's route and the concept here is just gonna be sort of like a two-level flood
43:28 You're gonna get a deep corner and you're gonna get an out route underneath it
43:31 him
43:33 alerting that deep or that deep corner, sorry
43:36 against a zero look
43:40 Not only does that show trust it within the receiver to create separation and get to that back pylon
43:47 but that shows trust with your offensive line because he's at the 15
43:51 facing a zero look and alerting a post that's gonna be breaking down the field like
43:57 down down the field
44:00 So that shows so much trust in the offensive line and for him to stand in here and
44:05 Sort of step up in the pocket and make this play
44:08 I mean, it's just awesome to see and you'll see it's not even like that advantageous of a throw in a window here
44:16 Like that player is drifting back towards Sutton and still Russ put it in a spot to where only Sutton could go up and get
44:23 It and Sutton just does his thing and comes down with it
44:26 so when you're looking at a player like Russ and you see all these
44:29 Different things about his priest not processing and is he gonna get the team in the right looks this season so far
44:36 this offense is at its best when they can run the football and when Russ comes out and can
44:42 React to what he's seeing on the fly and get the offense into the right. Look
44:46 one question Cortland Sutton
44:49 I feel like he's on the receiving end of like all the crazy plays that Russ has made real quick
44:55 tell me about their chemistry because I
44:57 Portland Sutton's I feel like he's been that dude for a while just didn't really have a quarterback that could exploit it and
45:03 I've also seen their plays were like he you know
45:05 Russell make a crazy throw and he and Judy don't always come down with it
45:09 But still Sutton's made some pretty crazy throw. So what have you seen from him and his connection with Russ?
45:14 for me like Sutton is the perfect Russell Wilson receiver because
45:20 Anytime I want you to pay attention to this everybody listening. I want you to pay attention for the game if
45:26 the Patriots come out in too high and
45:29 Prior to the snap they rotate to one high and Russ sees it
45:35 He's going downfield one. Yep. He's going like without a doubt. He's going downfield to Sutton regardless of who it is on him
45:42 So when you have a guy who can make these plays in one-on-one isolation to the boundary or wherever on the field
45:49 That just opens up a completely different branch of your offense because this is just stuff on the fly
45:55 Like this isn't necessarily in structure. This is out of structure
45:58 even though it's still in the pocket like
46:01 if he's seeing things on the fly and can react to it and when that safety comes down to rotate to a one-high and
46:07 He has trust with a guy like Sutton who can make that play like that's huge
46:12 Mm-hmm. All right. So this isn't a one where they go too high and rotate
46:18 But this is one where I think it's a similar one-on-one matchup because really Sean Payton knows really any coverage
46:24 You can create one unless it's like pure spot drop
46:27 Patriots are really a spot drop team. They play a lot of match and this was one of the rare instances where when they play
46:33 This kind of coverage again, you're really thinking they're probably in zero
46:38 Especially when they're kind of lurking towards like they're lurking down near the box like this
46:41 Structurally, you're thinking they're probably in zero based on what they usually do
46:45 One tell this will be fun for you watching. I don't know if I like mention this to people at home
46:51 One tell for when the Patriots are gonna be playing too high zone
46:55 See Myles Bryant right there at safety and you see peppers right there on the edge
47:01 They're screaming that they're either usually it's it's covered - it's some kind of split field zone
47:07 Because what they like to do is with pepper
47:09 So if you'll remember with the Giants for some insane reason they would constantly put him in main coverage in the slot
47:16 There was a game where they had him go up against Cooper Cup
47:19 Like he wasn't a creepy and it was mind-blowing with the Patriots. They use him much better
47:24 They put him in the slot in zone and they make sure that he can use his physicality
47:28 That's disrupt routes close on underneath stuff and they use Bryant who as a safe as a cornerback
47:34 But also the intelligence of a safety they'll put him on the back end because he's got better range
47:38 I don't want to say better play diagnosis, but he's just a better fit for that kind of role
47:42 When they're playing these split field looks so here they're actually gonna be playing quarters. So you got this is
47:50 Jonathan Jones, I believe you got Jonathan Jones right here you get miles Bryant into one post safety Kyle Duggar's the other post safety Alex
47:57 Austin as the outside corner to the backside, but we're gonna have Travis Kelsey right here
48:02 he is gonna be running a post and
48:04 This is great scheming by the Chiefs because they're gonna have an underneath route sit right underneath
48:10 Miles Bryant to suck him up and you see there's a ton in the red zone where you're trying to create space in the end
48:16 Zone, so you get something right at the goal line to create some room
48:20 so we're gonna see is
48:22 Get the underneath route you see miles Bryant's already coming down on it my home sees that and he's like great anticipation
48:29 What does he even let this go?
48:30 Separates his hands there and he's like, yep. I got the window. I'm chilling
48:34 But look who's lurking down here not even at my face isn't in the camera
48:38 He's not even in the play cuz Duggar is supposed to be responsible for anything that breaks inside vertical here
48:45 But they isn't really have a threat of that and he's looking at my home
48:48 So he's waiting for something to break inside towards him
48:51 What he sees is okay. There's a shallow. I'm gonna keep getting depth keep getting depth
48:57 What do we get Travis Kelsey get an alligator arms cuz he's like, oh shoot. Is that Kyle Duggar about to hit me in the chest?
49:04 And it's a great anticipation throw from the homes get the little hesitation from Kelsey at the top against John Jones
49:12 There's a very good corner, but Kelsey's just that good and
49:16 Then you see so there is a window but one it shows ways you can exploit this defense
49:21 They like to play a lot of being covered
49:23 But if you can get them in these quarters list, which there's not quite as comfortable with you might be able to exploit their fundamentals
49:28 But you still got to worry about their playmakers and safety peppers might not play but Duggar is gonna be in this game and he
49:34 Will be a difference maker. So
49:36 When it comes to split field coverage, it's not just cover zero but like zones
49:41 Is there anything that they really like to do and when it comes to man coverage?
49:45 That's probably what they're gonna see the majority of what have you seen from the Broncos now? They like to attack that
49:49 Honestly, they just get into it's a lot of check downs
49:54 like it's a lot of check downs and thanks for a fault to a fault a lot of times because
50:02 like
50:04 working the intermediate level of the field middle of the field, especially against zone coverage like
50:10 That's huge. That's how to get teams out of it. And if you can't do that, the defense is comfortable just sitting in it
50:18 So they don't really have like a branch of their offense that they can just really like, okay, they're in this. Okay, I'll do this
50:24 They don't really have that. It's just Russ
50:26 calling a play
50:28 Dropping back wherever the primary read is he's gonna read it if that's not there
50:33 He's gonna get to the check down against those zone coverages
50:35 And to your point where you're like, I don't know if he's really worth all the money
50:39 They're paying him if you have an offense where a defense can come in and be like there's a part of the area that we
50:44 Don't or part of the field that we don't need to worry about it helps when you have Russ's, you know ability to
50:48 Create outside of structure is mobility, you know, especially now that it's improved, but that's big
50:54 So I'm starting to think that we're gonna see a lot of those cover one disguises
50:58 They'll rotate to cover two and maybe I mean still like you said like he's got the experience
51:03 I don't think that just going from single high to split field is gonna be like, oh my god
51:07 What am I seeing but it creates that extra level of difficulty for him?
51:10 Well, he might think he's got a good matchup, but they're playing the boundary
51:13 They're saying I got my one guy who's gonna take the intermediate. I got my deep safety
51:17 He's gonna take anything deep. Are you gonna throw your check downs underneath and I trust my guys to close on that
51:23 Putting you on the spot a little bit here, but to close out
51:26 I've already taken up a lot of your night
51:28 But I gotta know if the Patriots win what happened if the Broncos win as we're hoping they do what happened
51:36 If the Patriots win this game
51:38 It's another classic bill Belichick defensive game plan to work
51:44 Whatever Denver wanted to do on offense just didn't work at all. Nothing got they weren't able to get going with anything
51:50 they were able to run the ball the passing game wasn't there as
51:53 It is a lot this season, but it's just bill Belichick and if the Broncos win, it's Sean Payton scheming up
52:02 you know opportunities against certain players and isolating a guy that they might have a
52:06 advantageous matchup against and just focusing on that and just really just like dialing in on it making that guy wrong no matter what he
52:14 Does and also them being able to run the football?
52:17 so
52:19 Alex Austin
52:20 Rookie, he played over Sean Wade last week. He's been in the system for a longer
52:24 JC Jackson is probably out for the season due to mental health issues
52:27 Obviously we wish him the best
52:29 But if you're talking about somebody that Sean Payton might try to pick on he was on the left side on the vast majority
52:34 Of snaps, I think the only time he wasn't was when the Chiefs were using tray looks which is three by one
52:38 But the isolated receivers a tight end
52:40 So it kind of helps you diagnose the coverage and usually an outside corner to one side
52:45 We'll just reduce and be the number three or an empty looks. It's kind of the same thing
52:49 So if you're talking about a guy who he's probably gonna pick on left corner back Alex Austin rookie
52:55 He was solid last week. Like honestly, I didn't he just ended up getting the ball thrown his way a lot just by scheme
53:01 I don't think he got picked on necessarily. He was solid but
53:04 Courtland Sutton whole different ballgame. So that'll be an interesting one to watch but Robbie my dude. Thank you so much
53:11 This was a ton of fun. We got to have you back on but for now
53:15 Please let the people know where they can find you and what stuff you got coming through the pipeline specifically for Pat's fans, though
53:20 All right, we don't like the Broncos
53:23 Couple AMC championships in the Patriots, but any matchup stuff you got let the people know
53:28 So you can find all of my film work over. I post a lot of it over on my twitter at Robbie underscore NFL
53:36 You can find a lot of my more detailed breakdowns on Russell Wilson after every game of Russell Wilson's season this year
53:43 I break down his performance whether it's good bad terrible
53:46 No matter what I will have a video out breaking down his performance over on the let's talk Broncos podcast YouTube channel
53:52 And of course, I occasionally pop up on the let's talk Broncos podcast as well
53:56 Thank you so much brother. Seriously. It was an absolute treat. Can't wait to have you back
54:01 Thank you all for watching as always. We appreciate you so much
54:05 Happy holidays everybody in case we don't talk before then take care of yourselves. Take care of each other
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