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00:00 Tanvi there. Tanvi, thank you so much. Have a very good morning from our side. The initial
00:06 results on the screen, obviously, are mostly on the expected lines, as the pollsters had
00:13 said, for a lot of top leaders, be it Simriya, be it Ganindu Singh Shekhawat, be it Ashok
00:29 Gehlot, or for that matter, all the dignitaries and kamal naths of the Madhya Pradesh politics.
00:36 Where do you see these elections heading, these countings heading to, and how the parties
00:42 should be taking it?
00:43 In the state of Madhya Pradesh, if we would have looked at this picture six months back,
00:52 then it was a clear shot victory for Kamal Nath ji and for the Congress party. But in
00:57 the last six months, by the welfare schemes introduced by Chief Minister Shivraj Singh
01:02 Chauhan, particularly the Ladli scheme, which has done wonders with the voters, as all the
01:08 exit polls have predicted so far, Congress is in a soup because the BJP is giving a very
01:16 tough fight. But I do believe that Mr. Kamal Nath ji, he is a very, very experienced politician
01:22 of the Congress party. And after years of anti-incumbency, I do believe that Congress
01:30 will be able to win Madhya Pradesh with a comfortable majority, though Mr. Chauhan's
01:35 BJP is giving tough competition.
01:39 And talking about also, you're right, as far as who would forget what happened in 2020
01:45 with Kamal Nath and unlucky, I would say, and he has been out of the power equation
01:51 also for roughly quite some time, if you leave around those two years. So in that scenario,
01:59 Sanveep, how do you read the interpretation in the state of Rajasthan? Because if our
02:07 guarantee scheme could work in favor of Shivraj Singh Chauhan at the very last moment, do
02:13 you believe that a very incessant, very continuous effort from the Rajasthan Congress, Ashok
02:20 Gehlot Party, seven new guarantees this time around, more than one crore signatories to
02:26 avail those guarantees? Do you believe that Rajasthan could also topple this trend of
02:31 the last 30 years of alternating government?
02:35 It will be nothing short of a miracle if Ashok Gehlot is able to do it because Rajasthan
02:40 has not done it in the last two decades. Yes, Mr. Gehlot introduced a couple of very interesting
02:48 welfare schemes in your Chiranjeevi schemes, giving LPG cylinders to the women at extremely
02:53 low prices, post that Prime Minister Modi had to reduce, the central government had
02:58 to reduce the LPG prices. So clearly, they sense that the welfare schemes were working
03:04 on the ground. However, it's a very tough fight in Rajasthan for both BJP and Congress.
03:11 Congress, of course, is fighting the five years of the Parivartan model that Rajasthan
03:18 follows. And BJP has no clear face. In fact, they had to import a leader from Haryana to
03:25 sort of, you know, get the Hindutva polarization happen in Rajasthan. For the Congress Party,
03:32 if it happens, I think that Mr. Gehlot will write history in terms of the fact that post
03:39 2013, no Congress chief minister has been ever able to come to power on its own in the
03:45 Modi era. Last was I think Mukul Sangh. So Ashok Gehlot will write history if this happens,
03:51 but it's a very tough fight because Rajasthan goes on extremely different patterns. So Eastern
03:55 Rajasthan will vote differently. Marwar region will vote differently. So it's a very tough
04:02 call in Rajasthan.
04:03 Indeed, indeed. I mean, me and my team spent quite some time in the state of Rajasthan,
04:10 discussing, speaking to the people. And the health issue is something which is very deeply
04:18 entrenched there because almost everyone, eight out of 10, if I may say so, would say
04:23 that we have to go to Ahmedabad to get treatment. It's expensive here, not very cost effective
04:30 also. So with the Chiranjeevi scheme doubling the amount from 25 lakh to 50 lakh, this is
04:36 ambitious. And if Ashok Gehlot is able to find resonance as far as the health and assurance
04:44 insurance is concerned, then I think the trend is better than buckle down. Well, you know,
04:51 talking about Congress posing challenge both to BJP and the Telangana, TRS in Telangana,
04:58 how do you see, because this time around a huge anti-incumbency for K. Chandrashekhar
05:03 Rao in Telangana, certain allegations of draft charges, corruption charges also, Congress
05:08 banking on them saying that we were the ones who actually helped in the formation of the
05:14 state. So trust us. BJP, on the other hand, appeared to be a divided house in Telangana,
05:20 changing of the state seats. Bandy Sanjay was out, G. K. Shambhavi came in. How do you
05:25 read what's happening in Telangana?
05:30 The credit for the formation of Telangana to the Congress party is long overdue. So
05:34 I do hope they get it this time. And I think, again, Congress has fought the Telangana campaign
05:44 extremely beautifully, you know, fighting on the local issues, centralizing the campaign
05:50 around the guarantees related to women, because of course, we cannot forget the women voters
05:56 in this election. They hold the key in all the states. All political parties have particularly
06:01 sort of come up with schemes to help the women voters, to vote for them. And so has happened
06:07 in Telangana. And Telangana has a very youthful leader, Rehwans Reddy. He's in his, in politics,
06:16 you know, 50s is also extremely crucial. So he has time on his side. And I think he has
06:21 worked in that direction. And the, you know, the incumbency for the existing government
06:29 is huge. KCR and the BRS party, they released a list of candidates extremely early, and
06:37 they have retained almost all of their previous MLAs. So you know, that poses a threat to
06:42 them. Congress, on the other hand, has brought a fresh faces. So I think they are, you know,
06:48 giving that freshness in the elections. And I think that, you know, they are, people are
06:54 showing great support. The rallies were, Rahul Gandhi's rally and Priyanka Gandhi's rally,
06:58 they were extremely, they were filled with, you know, they were completely jam packed.
07:02 So I think that, you know, Telangana also, you know, it is going to work today in Congress
07:08 favor.
07:09 Right. You know, talking about the big faces coming in from the center to the states, the
07:16 Congress, Rahul Gandhi and Priyanka, obviously were the most sought after and seen faces
07:22 also, there is no doubt about it. And before that, we had Bharat Jyoti also from the Congress
07:26 side. As far as Chhattisgarh is concerned, I think the BJP has thrown in the towel, not
07:33 much of aggression seen there. But overall, if you talk about, you know, the picture of
07:41 putting in bigger faces, the high profile campaigns from the BJP side, so much so leading
07:46 from the front, Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Amit Shah was there, JP Nadda was put in,
07:51 in Rajasthan, we saw Rajiv Adhan Singh Rathore and, you know, the former Chief Minister also
07:58 campaigning there. Do you believe that somehow the BJP would be able to, as is the trademark
08:05 of the BJP, to strike court with the people? Maybe, will it work at all?
08:11 In the 2023 elections, I don't think so. Probably this would have worked in next year, you know,
08:16 in 2024. You know, the Modi magic exists today, I do not deny it. But when it comes to Assembly
08:24 elections, people are concerned, you know, about their MLA who is going to represent
08:28 them, about the issues that affect them. In the National elections, the issues become
08:33 completely different. And then Prime Minister Modi's face just, you know, works wonders
08:37 for BJP. However, in the Assembly elections, people want their problems to be solved.
08:43 So, a couple of issues have to be looked at, you know, what effectively is happening in
08:48 BJP is the Congressization of BJP, you know, where for a larger period of time, Congress
08:54 relied on Gandhi's to get votes, even in the state elections, even in the municipal elections.
08:59 And now BJP is facing the similar issue. But apart from Gujarat, or the Northeast, no other
09:06 state in India, you know, sort of, Prime Minister Modi cannot get votes in the state elections.
09:11 And we have seen that previously in Karnataka and in Himachal Pradesh. And even the exit polls
09:18 predict, you know, in the similar fashion that Prime Minister Modi can only work in the National
09:23 elections, or in a state like Gujarat or Northeast, but not in such states, you know, where the stakes
09:28 are so high. Because Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh are quite large states, Rajasthan as per area and
09:35 Madhya Pradesh as per the number of constituencies. You know, these states are ignored and the way
09:40 Mr. Chauhan was ignored or the way, you know, Basundar Rajaji was ignored in Rajasthan, or the
09:48 way Raman Singh was ignored in Chhattisgarh, I mean, till date, we do not know that if at all,
09:53 BJP comes to power in Chhattisgarh, then whether Mr. Raman Singh will get his due or not.
09:58 So, these are some tough questions that BJP needs to answer and needs to introspect.
10:03 And the localization of elections, the credibility given to leadership, the state leadership in the
10:09 Congress party is so far working for the Congress, but it is putting BJP at a disadvantageous position.
10:15 Right. You know, tough for the situation as far as these four states as of now is concerned,
10:22 for the BJP, barring Madhya Pradesh, I would say, but huge, huge anti-incumbency also there.
10:28 We'll have to wait and watch. Talking about, you know, these Labharti politics, we have seen
10:35 Tanvi increasingly, right from the Himachal days to Karnataka and now to these elections.
10:41 How did Congress's Labharti politics affect the BJP's Labharti politics, if at all it did? Because
10:49 many on the ground are also saying that, you know, these duels because BJP is in power,
10:56 it's in central scheme of things come into picture. Prime Minister Modi, not long ago,
11:01 just two days ago, he pleased the number of years for free ration to be given to, you know,
11:09 a poor community of the country. Do you believe that Congress too
11:15 showed a similar line as far as giving the duels is concerned?
11:25 Yes, it is a battle of freebies in these elections and we cannot deny this fact. However,
11:31 BJP, of course, you know, the government which is at the center is of course more comfortable in
11:37 sort of implementing these schemes. State leadership so far, you know, post the COVID
11:41 pandemic, they have a lot of backlog of debt as well. So, it is going to be tough for them.
11:50 See, this freebie culture, to be very, very honest, it has its own pros and cons. If you
11:56 look at most of the developed countries, you know, the fundamentals are to the citizens,
12:01 they provide it for free. However, in a country like India, where, you know, we have so many
12:05 poor people, of course, it is extremely difficult to come up with freebies for everybody. But
12:10 providing, you know, solutions to a poor man's problem, providing them ration or providing them
12:17 LPG cylinders or providing women there, you know, some sort of incentive on a monthly basis,
12:24 I would not count it as freebie. I feel that that is empowering them and schemes that empower its
12:29 citizens, I think they are for the benefit of this country. Indeed, one also, you know,
12:35 a crucial aspect that came into our picture is about the caste calculus, caste elections,
12:44 finding resonance after Bihar, what it did by severing ties with the BJP, now going for caste
12:50 census, several other states, one or two in this poll bound states also saying that they will go
12:57 for caste census. But talking about one critical aspect of, you know, the community Muslim vote
13:04 in Telangana, let's shift quickly to that side. We have seen the BJP performing well in the by
13:10 elections also in the previous elections in Telangana. But this time around, do you believe
13:14 that the Muslim voter sentiments somehow could have a national ramification as far as the state
13:22 of Telangana is concerned? Yes, of course, they do stand important in terms of the vote bank. And
13:34 yes, their collective vote will sort of decide where the elections will swing. I do not deny that.
13:43 And speaking of caste and Muslims, you know, because they also fall in the OBC category,
13:50 you know, the OBCs are the key to these elections. And so will they be in 2024 elections as well.
13:55 I honestly believe that the entire issue of caste census that erupted recently, it was about OBC
14:04 politics. And, you know, that is in these elections, all the political parties have tried
14:11 their hands in wooing the OBC voters in there, whether it's the Muslim vote bank, or whether it
14:15 is BJP polarizing the elections, or whether it is other parties, you know, sort of coming up to
14:21 them and they have done it. And different states are voting differently for different political
14:26 parties. So they do have the key to, you know, that they can swing the elections where they want.
14:34 But it's too early to predict that how it will happen. Right. And one final question, the women
14:42 voters. Madhya Pradesh, you know, Shival Singh Johan trying to tap into Laddi Behna Yudhna at
14:49 the very end. And we saw Ashok Gehlot also beginning his last press conference as the
14:55 Chief Minister on 23rd of November, when the election campaigning were ending. He also mentioned
15:03 about, you know, the role of women voters, free gas cylinders, obviously, is to tap the women
15:09 voters. How significant do you think the role of women voters is going to be this time around? We
15:15 have seen this happening in Uttar Pradesh and also, could BJP capitalize on the fact that they
15:21 finally, finally attended to at least to the women's reservation bill. So not just from the
15:27 kitchen, but to the cabinet and to the parliament. BJP has an upper hand as far as the emancipation
15:35 of women is concerned. Implementation of women's reservation bill, they would have definitely seen
15:42 some results in these elections. But because, you know, it's still hanging that when it will
15:46 be implemented, I'm not sure whether these elections will, you know, bear any fruit to that.
15:52 But yes, women voters is the most important vote bank we have today. Prime Minister Modi is the
15:58 first Prime Minister to have capitalized on it, whether it was, you know, throughout his Lok Sabha
16:03 Billings, whether it is Mamata Banerjee in West Bengal, or whether it was in Bihar, we have seen
16:09 how powerful women vote bank is. As a woman, I feel it's amazing how political parties are
16:16 actually, you know, bringing in their manifestos, reflecting this emancipation that you know,
16:21 that women are actually a cause of concern for them. And that is huge for a country like India.
16:26 So that's a good start. Okay. And your final take on, you know, how do you see the rules coming out?
16:36 What is your say? We have lots of pollsters, you know, and polling agencies, counting agencies,
16:42 giving the verdict, which is now known to all. But the trends as of now are mixed in the first
16:47 30 to 35 minutes. What is your prediction at the end? Tanvi, if I may ask you?
16:52 I, at Telangana, I feel Congress will form a comfortable majority in Chhattisgarh at night.
17:01 In Madhya Pradesh, in Rajasthan, of course, it's a tough fight. And I just hope that we won't have
17:06 to wait till midnight, you know, unlike last time to get the results. But it's interesting, you know,
17:13 six months back, people were writing off Congress in Rajasthan and people were writing off BJP in
17:20 Madhya Pradesh. And today, you know, we have such a day. It's like a world cup match, you know,
17:28 everybody's just looking at the final ball, what will happen. So, but it's two states that
17:36 Please go ahead.
17:43 Am I audible? Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
17:54 Yeah, so two states are typically confirmed for the Congress party, but we'll have to wait
17:59 for to see Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan where it where it goes.
18:02 Right. Tanvi Pruthi there, political analyst. Thank you so much for speaking to us early morning.
18:09 Tanvi can be reached at at the rate Tanvi underscore Pruthi, which is P-R-U-T-H-I.
18:16 And nonetheless, Tanvi, thank you so much for speaking to us. As you mentioned,
18:21 Telangana and Chhattisgarh are looking clear as far as Congress is concerned, BJP
18:25 already not there. Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan would be something to watch out for till the end
18:32 of at least the first half of the noon. Tanvi, thank you so much. Hope to see you again,
18:39 probably this evening. Thank you so much.