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00:00 Are you a bit disappointed because some of your leaders are saying that they are expecting a decision?
00:26 Yes, overall the scenario is that the decision that was to be made today,
00:30 has already been suspended.
00:36 So the major part, the operating part of the judgement,
00:39 has been suspended.
00:41 So this was a clerical mistake,
00:43 which you can say that verbally,
00:46 when the last date of hearing, when the sentence was being suspended,
00:50 the court had asked to suspend it as well.
00:53 But that was missed.
00:55 But you don't think that this was a big mistake on your legal part,
01:01 which you are calling a clerical mistake,
01:03 when you know that each point has so many implications,
01:06 so at that time you are requesting for death penalty,
01:08 you are writing a sentence,
01:10 but you are not writing a sentence and order,
01:12 which is being repercussed.
01:13 It was a big mistake on your part.
01:15 See, initially, they made a mistake,
01:18 Khwaja Aariz had drafted this,
01:21 but that same doctor...
01:23 - Was it your fault?
01:25 - He is a professional lawyer, I will not say anything.
01:28 - So it was a mistake, he is a human being.
01:30 - It happens.
01:31 - Was there any malice?
01:32 - No, I will not go there, he is a senior.
01:34 - You are not saying that you are going to the court,
01:35 but you are saying that you are not going there.
01:36 - No, I am not going there.
01:37 But the point is that this mistake was not that big,
01:40 and it was a timely point out.
01:43 We had requested the court at the same time
01:45 when the sentence was to be suspended.
01:47 We had asked them before that.
01:49 - But it was not written in this order, right?
01:52 - No, the court has the authority.
01:54 We said that we will write it down.
01:56 They said that we will see.
01:57 When they said that we will see,
01:59 after that, we did not see.
02:01 The court also overlooked.
02:03 Then we gave a foreign application.
02:05 While the application was being heard,
02:07 that is, the sentence was suspended on 30th August,
02:10 and till today it is coming,
02:12 sometimes one request comes from the Election Commission,
02:15 and sometimes someone else comes.
02:17 So there is no point.
02:18 The major operating part of the judgment
02:21 has already been suspended by the same court on 30th August.
02:26 - Were you expecting a decision today?
02:28 - Of course, we were.
02:30 - Is it coming in the future?
02:31 - Today we requested,
02:33 because it is for us and for the democracy of the country.
02:36 Our arguments today were that
02:38 if the biggest political party is not a part of the democracy,
02:42 then the democracy of the country is in danger.
02:45 The democracy of the country is in danger,
02:47 that is, Pakistan is in danger.
02:49 - Being a lawyer, you also understand,
02:51 whatever your political affiliation is,
02:53 but you are a student of law primarily,
02:55 so you understand that,
02:56 in principle, as a result of any punishment,
02:58 it is wrong to deprive a person of his own party's leadership,
03:02 whether he was with Nawaz Sharif yesterday or with Imran Khan.
03:05 Either you understand that he was right, or this is wrong.
03:08 - Look, I will talk about the law.
03:10 - Yes.
03:11 - The intention in the law is to file an appeal.
03:15 When you are in an appeal,
03:17 then there is a continuity of your trial.
03:19 When a trial is going on against you,
03:21 then you are not disqualified.
03:24 So it means that when you are in an appeal,
03:26 then you should not be.
03:28 So this is a settled principle of law.
03:30 Today Imran Khan is there, tomorrow Nawaz Sharif,
03:32 Zardari Sahib, Bilawal, whatever.
03:35 But the principles of law remain the same.
03:37 I, being a student of law, will say that
03:40 this principle should be applied equally for everyone.
03:44 - So if Nawaz Sharif is also a member of the party,
03:47 then Imran Khan should also be there.
03:49 Because the principle should be applied equally.
03:51 - No, no. The case of Nawaz Sharif is a little different.
03:53 It is different in that the disqualification against him
03:56 was done directly by the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
03:58 - From 621(f)
04:00 - Yes. In that, there is some kind of appeal,
04:03 which is now on the stage,
04:05 a trial took place, the trial was right, it was wrong.
04:08 - Then we went to Islamabad High Court.
04:10 - Then we went to Islamabad High Court.
04:12 This is the continuity of our trial till then.
04:15 And these rights are available to us,
04:17 which were available during the trial.
04:19 - They say that we have been unfair.
04:21 Not in the case of Ahteesab Adarat,
04:23 that was done by Al Azizia Flagship and Ebenfield.
04:27 But in the case of Akama, they say that
04:29 we have been unfair that the Supreme Court took it directly.
04:32 So we have no panel, no forum left to appeal.
04:35 Imran Khan is lucky enough that he has so many forums to appeal.
04:38 - Let me remind you of one thing.
04:40 The Supreme Court asked the lawyers of the time.
04:43 - He had a lawyer, Khwaja Aariz, right?
04:45 His name is Khwaja Aariz.
04:47 - This one.
04:48 - This is the same Khwaja Aariz, right?
04:50 - Yes, this one.
04:51 - And who is the lawyer for the military courts?
04:55 - He is the lawyer of the federal government.
04:57 - Yes, okay.
04:58 Subhanallah.
04:59 I said, just say Subhanallah.
05:01 - Look, at that time, they were asked and they gave consent to the court
05:06 that you should decide on this case on our behalf.
05:11 So when a consent was given, it could have been brought down for additional evidence.
05:16 But at that time, the decision was taken there and it was taken by the newlyweds.
05:19 The statements of their lawyers are on record.
05:22 So when you surrender this before the Supreme Court,
05:25 then you will have to agree.
05:27 - It was his choice.