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Transcript

00:00:00 - Hey, happy Thanksgiving Eve, John.

00:00:03 - And same to you and all of your Charmin

00:00:08 or whatever it is you've got behind you.

00:00:12 - So OGs know that I am at my parents' house right now

00:00:16 and for whatever reason, they're prepared for a situation

00:00:21 where paper towels will no longer exist

00:00:24 and they wanna make sure that they have enough

00:00:26 for the rest of their lives.

00:00:27 So that's still going strong back here.

00:00:30 - Yeah.

00:00:31 - Napkins too, just in case like there's a,

00:00:33 it's the same family.

00:00:35 We, we hate trees apparently.

00:00:39 - That's all right.

00:00:39 We're gonna be joined by Bobby Manning

00:00:42 and Josue Pavone from the garden.

00:00:44 Celtics take down the Bucs, 119, 116.

00:00:48 It wasn't that close.

00:00:49 It's annoying that it ended up being that close.

00:00:52 - Yeah.

00:00:53 - That's not the right score.

00:00:54 - It is, I think.

00:00:55 I thought it was 119, 113.

00:00:57 - Dude, the dude hit a garbage three at the buzzer.

00:01:00 - Oh, he did, I missed it.

00:01:01 - So there was a bunch of people.

00:01:02 I, I, I, listen, if we have anybody who-

00:01:05 - You're right, I walked away.

00:01:06 I walked away, yeah.

00:01:08 - Yeah, I think this part was right around six.

00:01:10 I don't know what it, what it closed out,

00:01:11 but there were definitely people who I think were covering

00:01:15 before that shot happened.

00:01:15 - Oh my God, I missed that.

00:01:17 I missed that.

00:01:18 - Yeah, that was a tough one.

00:01:19 That was a completely pointless three pointer

00:01:20 and it went down.

00:01:22 So, but yeah, it wasn't this close, but go on.

00:01:25 - Yeah, no, so that happened.

00:01:27 But, you know, the, the, the, the clear hard lead

00:01:33 tonight is Jalen for sure.

00:01:37 After, I mean, a very not, you know,

00:01:42 he's had a few clunkers this year.

00:01:46 - Same.

00:01:47 - No, he's had a few clunkers this year.

00:01:49 And I think just kind of, there was,

00:01:51 the last game was one where everything that Jalen Brown does

00:01:54 that people don't like was magnified, you know,

00:01:58 especially as, you know, a lead was being pissed away

00:02:01 and, you know, bad decision making late

00:02:04 and just the freestyling and lack of court vision

00:02:07 and, you know, stopping the offense

00:02:09 and not getting back in defense and just so many,

00:02:12 so many things that drive you insane.

00:02:14 And seemingly all of them were corrected in one night,

00:02:18 which is incredible.

00:02:20 But the main takeaway for me is that like, he can do it.

00:02:24 - Yeah, there's some proof, visual evidence.

00:02:27 - No, but I mean, that the point is this,

00:02:29 I mean, you can see it from the,

00:02:30 from the first possession, Jimmy,

00:02:32 where first, first time he got it,

00:02:36 I mean, right out of the gate, got it and went, you know,

00:02:39 there wasn't a stop and dribble and 20 dribbles.

00:02:42 He just got it to the basket, dunk and we're off.

00:02:45 - And the Bucks were sleepwalking to start that game.

00:02:48 And they were slow and rotating in that first half.

00:02:50 They obviously came, came round a bit,

00:02:52 but I thought the Bucks were not ready for,

00:02:57 to match the Celtics sort of start

00:02:59 and intensity to start this game.

00:03:01 And yeah, the Jalen play right off the jump

00:03:03 was a great example of that,

00:03:04 but the Celts were whipping the ball around tonight.

00:03:07 It just felt like the Bucks were a step or two behind

00:03:10 most of the night.

00:03:11 And I know that Lopez ended up having

00:03:13 a good stat line on tonight,

00:03:15 but I thought he was slow rotating a couple of times.

00:03:18 You could, you could tell that they aren't

00:03:20 the same defensive team that they have been

00:03:22 in past years, the Bucks.

00:03:24 - They're not.

00:03:26 And they still can't figure out what they want to be.

00:03:31 And they're just not, they're not--

00:03:33 - Middleton's slow still now.

00:03:35 - Yeah, they're not cohesive yet.

00:03:38 So, you know, they can, they can get in their own way

00:03:42 and they're figuring it out.

00:03:44 You've seen like recent comments from, from Giannis,

00:03:47 you know, honest ones, but like, yeah, you know,

00:03:50 I don't know how to play with Dame yet.

00:03:52 We're figuring it out.

00:03:53 Like sometimes he needs the ball.

00:03:54 Sometimes I need the ball.

00:03:55 Like it just is what it is.

00:03:57 And they're kind of trying to figure it out.

00:04:00 But again, just back to the Brown thing.

00:04:03 I think this is what it comes down to

00:04:05 is how freaking efficient he was.

00:04:06 You know, he started the game nine of 11,

00:04:08 missed a couple late, but I didn't, I didn't dislike.

00:04:11 I think I only disliked one shot he took tonight.

00:04:13 I mean, for the most part, everything was in rhythm.

00:04:16 Everything was in flow.

00:04:17 He had the eight assists.

00:04:19 He also had a couple of hockey assists.

00:04:21 He also had a couple of really smart kick out plays

00:04:25 where normally, you know, and what we saw last game,

00:04:28 he'll go into traffic and just try something crazy

00:04:31 and off balance.

00:04:32 And he was really looking to, to kick it.

00:04:34 Even if it wasn't to the open shooter,

00:04:36 he had one great play.

00:04:38 I think in the third that I tweeted about

00:04:40 where he just went in patiently, you know,

00:04:42 looked like he was going to attack.

00:04:43 He sucked in the defense, the help came,

00:04:46 kicked it to Tatum, kicked it to White in the corner

00:04:48 and he hit the three.

00:04:49 - That was your tweet?

00:04:51 - Not, yeah, it was a good play.

00:04:53 - It was a great play, but your tweet started

00:04:54 with Jalen sucked.

00:04:55 And I was like, really, this is the time.

00:04:58 And then I, luckily I kept reading the tweet.

00:04:59 I was like, oh, it was a good thing.

00:05:01 Okay, cool.

00:05:02 - He did, but it was a smart play.

00:05:04 He waited for the defense.

00:05:05 And as soon as it came, he got the ball out quick.

00:05:08 So that's the quick decision-making

00:05:10 that sometimes you question and I question

00:05:13 whether he's got it, whether he sees it, you know,

00:05:17 it's almost like there's certain quarterbacks,

00:05:20 you know, to cross sport reference here

00:05:23 who just can't get through their reads.

00:05:25 You know, they see, they're looking at the one thing,

00:05:27 they've got the tunnel vision,

00:05:29 they can't get to the second read,

00:05:30 they can't get to the third one, they get overwhelmed.

00:05:33 If it's right there for them, they'll make a play,

00:05:35 but otherwise they're going to force something weird

00:05:38 because they're just not ready for what's happening.

00:05:40 So Brown made great reads all night

00:05:42 and seeing that he can do that,

00:05:44 I guess we'll beg the question, like, do that all the time?

00:05:47 Like this had nothing to do with point totals.

00:05:49 He just played a clean game where he was decisive,

00:05:52 made most, and Joe talks about it a ton,

00:05:54 made like a bunch of right reads.

00:05:56 This is as good as it gets.

00:05:57 Like I said, the eight assists plus,

00:05:59 he had a couple of hockey assists and a couple of others

00:06:01 where he found the right guy.

00:06:02 And if they knocked down threes,

00:06:04 he ends up with 12, 13, 14 assists tonight.

00:06:06 I mean, he was that good.

00:06:08 - Agree completely.

00:06:09 And you love to see this because you started to see

00:06:14 more examples of, is he thinking too much out there?

00:06:18 Is he trying to do too much?

00:06:19 Is he trying to prove that he's still this guy

00:06:22 or still in this role?

00:06:24 Is he not going to be able to adapt to the sort of style

00:06:28 of play that they want to have?

00:06:29 Tonight was a different story.

00:06:30 Again, when you compare the clip from last game

00:06:34 when he took the three and he had a wide open for Zingas,

00:06:38 it was almost like, I don't know,

00:06:41 maybe he had his contacts in for this one tonight.

00:06:43 I don't know what it was because it really was

00:06:45 seeing the court differently.

00:06:46 I thought the Celtics as a team,

00:06:49 their ball movement tonight,

00:06:50 you could just tell that that was an emphasis.

00:06:52 They were making the extra pass.

00:06:54 They were whipping it around the court.

00:06:57 Back to the original passer,

00:06:59 Jalen had one at the very end

00:07:00 where he made the right first pass

00:07:02 and it found its way all the way back to him

00:07:04 and he missed the three, but it was a good look.

00:07:06 And every single player on that team made the right play.

00:07:10 Derek White did it a number of times, the extra pass.

00:07:14 Al Horford tonight I thought was great too,

00:07:15 coming off the bench.

00:07:16 - Al was awesome.

00:07:17 - He stepped into that role and the move, man,

00:07:20 he put a move on Portis that I honestly thought

00:07:23 Portis was gonna just hand up, retire on the spot

00:07:26 and head out of the game

00:07:27 'cause Al just undressed him on the post there

00:07:30 and it was just, it was a grown man move on Portis.

00:07:32 - Al was awesome.

00:07:34 - He was.

00:07:34 The bench in general was awesome.

00:07:38 Hauser's-- - The bench was awesome.

00:07:39 - Yeah, Hauser is still like unbelievable

00:07:43 doing his thing from three.

00:07:46 Pritchard was really aggressive tonight

00:07:47 and he was all over the place.

00:07:48 So I don't know what you got combined from those guys,

00:07:50 but they all had around 10 points each.

00:07:52 - You just had a bad fourth quarter is all it is.

00:07:56 Otherwise this is a glowing gushing game almost all around.

00:07:59 Tatum started getting into his little baby stuff

00:08:02 where he was looking for fouls,

00:08:06 stuff wasn't going his way.

00:08:09 The couple possessions where he was like,

00:08:11 I haven't shot in a while, I'm gonna shoot.

00:08:13 It's just like, he didn't need that

00:08:15 because they were playing such a clean game.

00:08:17 Holiday, we'll get into Holiday in a little bit,

00:08:19 but this is his third stinker in a row.

00:08:22 - We'll wait for Bobby.

00:08:23 Bobby will talk about that, he already texted us.

00:08:26 I know you just shat on Tatum for a second, but--

00:08:29 - No, no, no, but then he makes two incredible drives late.

00:08:32 - Those drives are freaking awesome.

00:08:35 I feel like years, previous years, those aren't drives.

00:08:38 Those are step back, contested fade away jumpers

00:08:43 that have no chance of going in.

00:08:45 And now he's got this added element to his game

00:08:48 where he's just slicing and dicing his way to the hoop.

00:08:50 - I loved it.

00:08:51 - Yeah, was it Lopez or whoever it was,

00:08:54 he had going the wrong direction.

00:08:55 He blew right by him and dunked it on that first one.

00:08:58 - Got Lopez on the Hesi and went fast.

00:09:02 He went hard to the rim before Giannis

00:09:04 could come over and help.

00:09:05 Giannis kind of reached in late, but he was--

00:09:08 - Nobody wanted it.

00:09:09 - It was such a quick move, he was gone.

00:09:11 He was by him and he dunked it.

00:09:12 And that was great.

00:09:13 And then honestly, I liked that he worked

00:09:14 for that other one where he got fouled.

00:09:15 Because again, I agree with you at 10,000%, Jimmy,

00:09:19 those are absolutely fade away pull up jumpers,

00:09:23 which drive us insane.

00:09:26 'Cause those are like, honestly, like those are 23 percenters.

00:09:29 You know, like--

00:09:30 - New viewer, new viewer here.

00:09:32 - He does live in, but he does live in his mom's basement.

00:09:37 - On the holidays, folks, everyone who's watched the show

00:09:40 knows this scene.

00:09:41 This is the COVID scene, this is the holiday scene.

00:09:44 This is my mom's basement, literally, thank you.

00:09:47 (laughing)

00:09:49 What do we got here?

00:09:51 Here's a, we don't wanna miss this because,

00:09:53 thank you Bass Rock, or is it Bass Rock?

00:09:55 Probably Bass Rock.

00:09:56 Unless it's Bass Rock,

00:10:00 could be like a secret fishing spot.

00:10:02 Come on, John, it was a back to back.

00:10:04 Anywho, what's mind blowing?

00:10:05 We are the worst team in the NBA stat wise right now

00:10:08 in two point attempts, that's ridiculous.

00:10:11 Well, they're a three point team.

00:10:13 - Yes, and no.

00:10:14 - Now do three pointers.

00:10:15 - Are they good?

00:10:17 It doesn't, it's just math, baby.

00:10:19 I don't care what they shoot.

00:10:21 If they go in, they go in.

00:10:22 They were shooting an unsustainably high clip early

00:10:24 and I think that made things,

00:10:26 I was worried, I'll tell you this.

00:10:29 This felt like a game that, you know,

00:10:31 and this was almost like kind of the Celtics,

00:10:34 you know, analogous to what happened

00:10:36 with Tatum the other night.

00:10:37 He was hitting everything,

00:10:38 so then he just kept playing like everything

00:10:40 was gonna fall and he didn't play as well

00:10:42 in the second half.

00:10:43 The 45 point game, everyone would be like,

00:10:45 get off his back, he had 45.

00:10:46 He kind of sucked most of the second half

00:10:48 'cause he kept, he was doing the,

00:10:50 he was forcing, he was, everything was contested.

00:10:53 He wasn't playing within the flow.

00:10:55 And I, honestly, I can say probably that's why Jalen,

00:10:58 every time he touched it was like,

00:10:59 I gotta shoot man too because you're just--

00:11:01 - Oh, I love this comment.

00:11:02 - Yeah, what he did late.

00:11:04 Paul Pierce-esque.

00:11:06 - Is that a new Manila?

00:11:08 - I don't know, but the drive that he got fouled on,

00:11:13 that was a Paul Pierce type drive.

00:11:16 Just finding a way to the rim,

00:11:18 throwing your body up in the air

00:11:20 and taking the contact and going the line late in the game.

00:11:23 That is a Paul Pierce play.

00:11:25 John, I don't want you to start trashing Pierce now,

00:11:28 but that was a Paul Pierce type.

00:11:29 - I'm not trashing Pierce.

00:11:31 - Not now you're not.

00:11:33 - I thought they were gonna,

00:11:34 I was worried that when the threes weren't falling,

00:11:36 they were gonna come out and that was gonna be it.

00:11:38 And then what happened?

00:11:40 They come out and the Bucks start out like a six oh run

00:11:42 or whatever it is to start the third.

00:11:43 And here we go, we're in single digits

00:11:45 and uh-oh, there goes that lead.

00:11:47 And then they just kept going.

00:11:50 They just, they played really well that quarter

00:11:52 and the bench gave them great contributions.

00:11:55 So, I mean, again, I'm not gonna,

00:11:57 I hate, yeah, I did.

00:12:02 I hate, I hate the-

00:12:05 - You just hate.

00:12:06 - Run out the clock stuff for the 14, 16 point lead.

00:12:10 Just play basketball.

00:12:11 - I know.

00:12:12 - It's such a, it's such a dumb thing.

00:12:14 And then you end up with a score like this

00:12:16 and you're like, okay, what happened?

00:12:17 This was a pretty clean game.

00:12:18 They played really well.

00:12:19 They played well defensively for the most part.

00:12:22 Had some lapses, you know, from time to time.

00:12:25 Horford, I thought was great.

00:12:26 You know, all game long, you know.

00:12:29 - He was, yeah.

00:12:30 - Yeah, he was great, he was great.

00:12:33 So, you know, I'm not gonna dwell much on what happened.

00:12:37 I thought the third quarter was where there was a chance

00:12:40 that if the shots didn't fall at the same clip

00:12:42 that they could piss that lead away

00:12:44 and they didn't really.

00:12:46 - Correct.

00:12:48 - I hate, that's it.

00:12:49 I hate their, Blorp, I hate, therefore I am, okay?

00:12:53 - I just hate.

00:12:54 - I just hate.

00:12:55 - Here's a question for you, John.

00:12:58 Thought these Bucks,

00:12:59 thought these Bucks missed a bunch of bunnies.

00:13:02 Does our size worry you guys?

00:13:05 Worry is probably not the word.

00:13:08 It's-

00:13:09 - What was the question?

00:13:11 - He thought the Bucks missed a lot of bunnies

00:13:12 and that they're essentially bigger than the Celtics.

00:13:16 - Yeah, I mean.

00:13:20 - Right here.

00:13:20 - Again, make mislead, right?

00:13:22 I mean.

00:13:23 - You know, Lopez was getting in there.

00:13:26 Obviously Giannis gets in there.

00:13:28 I mean, that's what the Bucks do.

00:13:29 - They're big, man.

00:13:30 - Yeah, they're big.

00:13:31 And, you know, that's Giannis' game.

00:13:33 He leads the league in points in the paint.

00:13:35 Me and John have said he's the most boring superstar

00:13:37 in the league because he just doesn't really score

00:13:39 in any other fashion.

00:13:40 - Dad ball.

00:13:41 - Yeah, exactly.

00:13:42 He bullies his way.

00:13:43 It's like dad going out and playing

00:13:44 against the third graders.

00:13:46 They're like home after school.

00:13:48 - That's all I see with Giannis.

00:13:49 - Quick workout in, you know, break a quick sweat

00:13:51 and then you're back in to finish off the work day.

00:13:54 - Yeah.

00:13:55 - You know, that's Giannis out there.

00:13:56 And, but that's what the Bucks do.

00:13:59 And yeah, the Celtics aren't gonna be able to go,

00:14:02 you know, body to body with everyone else,

00:14:04 with the Bucks like that.

00:14:06 But you saw it tonight.

00:14:07 They countered in their own way.

00:14:09 Fast break, working the ball around,

00:14:11 staying on the perimeter, forcing the Bucks to come out.

00:14:14 And then when you hit your shots,

00:14:15 you can get back on defense.

00:14:16 You don't have to worry about Giannis coming down

00:14:18 in transition.

00:14:19 I think he had one off a miss where he had white,

00:14:22 you know, right out of the basket.

00:14:23 But other than that.

00:14:25 I hate complain, I hate complaining about the refs.

00:14:28 I hate, I hate complaining about the refs,

00:14:30 but I do appreciate the super chat here, Peter.

00:14:33 And I have to agree.

00:14:34 - Thanks Peter.

00:14:35 - They, they sucked.

00:14:37 Dan, thank you for watching really.

00:14:39 They sucked, man.

00:14:40 - Did you think the refs sucked tonight?

00:14:42 I didn't really.

00:14:42 - I thought, I thought late, I didn't like anything.

00:14:44 I thought, I thought Milwaukee was getting away with fouls

00:14:47 almost every trip down.

00:14:48 Offensive, Lopez is just throwing people around.

00:14:51 They were late whistle calls on Giannis

00:14:53 when they saw that the ball didn't go in.

00:14:55 Porzingis I thought got fouled

00:14:57 and then he got a tech there.

00:14:58 I thought they missed quite a few.

00:15:00 It was kind of annoying late for sure.

00:15:02 But yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a great,

00:15:06 you're going to run into this on Giannis nights, you know.

00:15:09 It is what it is, but it's again, it's like,

00:15:12 it's almost like with Embiid,

00:15:15 when they played earlier in the year,

00:15:16 like you'll live with those numbers

00:15:18 if that's what he's going to get, you know?

00:15:20 I mean, you know, that's it.

00:15:22 I mean, Giannis is going to go seven for 20, 21 points.

00:15:25 Fine.

00:15:26 I mean, fine, you know?

00:15:28 And, you know, Lillard was quiet for a little bit too.

00:15:31 And then he kind of reminded everybody why he's, you know.

00:15:34 - Whoa.

00:15:35 Check out this super chat.

00:15:38 100,000, 100,000 IDRs.

00:15:43 Jimmy Lizards parents and has a job talking about basketball

00:15:45 while being a musician, winning in life.

00:15:48 It's a great super chat.

00:15:49 Thank you very much, Kevin Lay.

00:15:50 Thank you for the 100,000 IDRs.

00:15:52 Am I rich?

00:15:55 - No.

00:15:56 I think we had one of these before.

00:15:58 - I think it's like six bucks, which is fine.

00:16:02 Thank you very much, Kevin.

00:16:03 I appreciate it.

00:16:04 And you're right.

00:16:04 I am winning in life.

00:16:06 - Yeah.

00:16:07 Yes, but we do think anything.

00:16:10 Hey ma.

00:16:13 - The apple pie.

00:16:15 (laughing)

00:16:18 - Where were we talking about?

00:16:22 I can't get it.

00:16:23 I can't start with pies yet.

00:16:24 I'm gonna, we're gonna lose.

00:16:25 We got too many people in here.

00:16:27 We got too many people in here talking about basketball.

00:16:29 We're gonna hang out.

00:16:31 - Yes.

00:16:32 How about the Porzingis dunk on Lopez?

00:16:35 That was a nice one.

00:16:36 And then you had Brown.

00:16:37 I don't know if you heard this, John.

00:16:38 Brown and Porzingis are like, they're kind of friendly now.

00:16:41 They're friends.

00:16:41 - They're buddies.

00:16:42 - Did you hear about this?

00:16:43 They take rides together.

00:16:44 They live in the same building.

00:16:47 They throw alley-oops to each other.

00:16:48 - They're really missing,

00:16:50 they're missing great promo opportunity

00:16:52 to just do odd couple mashups with those guys.

00:16:55 - We need that.

00:16:57 That's where like weird Celtics Twitter comes in.

00:16:58 Where have they been?

00:16:59 I feel like we haven't seen them.

00:17:00 - I know, but I mean, NBC should be all over that.

00:17:02 They should be doing,

00:17:03 they should be like making a sitcom with a laugh track there.

00:17:06 - They really should.

00:17:07 - And writing some stuff.

00:17:08 - But yeah, they had a nice,

00:17:09 they had a couple of good connections tonight.

00:17:11 Porzingis dunked on, on Lopez.

00:17:14 And I was watching the ESPN broadcast and was it Mark Davis?

00:17:17 He said ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

00:17:20 He literally like kind of got morbid with it

00:17:23 and kind of buried Lopez after Porzingis dunked on him.

00:17:26 It was almost like we were at Lopez's funeral.

00:17:29 I loved every second of it.

00:17:30 I thought it was a great call.

00:17:32 I feel like you got to just,

00:17:33 once you get ashes to ashes, dust to dust,

00:17:36 like that's kind of it.

00:17:37 You don't really come back from that

00:17:39 if you're on the wrong side of that.

00:17:41 - No, that is it.

00:17:42 I thought Porzingis was solid.

00:17:44 - Picked up another tech,

00:17:47 didn't like that tech at the end.

00:17:48 - He was able to get where he needed to go.

00:17:52 He hit some tough shots in the paint there.

00:17:54 But again, I mean, I don't know what it is.

00:17:59 It's like he's Grant Williams or something.

00:18:01 Like the refs freaking hate him.

00:18:04 And he gets called for,

00:18:06 how many moving screens he get called for

00:18:08 that are just marginal at best?

00:18:10 Like he gets called for,

00:18:12 I mean, I think 80% of his fouls

00:18:15 have to be offensive fouls.

00:18:16 It's banana land to me.

00:18:18 - Who is this?

00:18:20 Sorry.

00:18:21 - Porzingis.

00:18:22 There's only two of us, Jimmy.

00:18:23 You can't go into lapses.

00:18:27 When there's four of us here,

00:18:28 you can disappear for a little bit.

00:18:29 With two of us, you got to focus.

00:18:31 - You said every foul Porzingis creates is an offensive foul.

00:18:34 - If I hit it to you, you got to hit it back to me.

00:18:37 Otherwise the game is over.

00:18:39 - Yeah, it's true.

00:18:40 Let's just start over, rewind.

00:18:41 (laughing)

00:18:44 - No, first off, we're going to play something.

00:18:47 We have-

00:18:48 - Like a game?

00:18:50 - No, we're going to play a game.

00:18:51 Yeah.

00:18:52 Pie oh my.

00:18:53 The game-

00:18:56 - Rank the pies that you made today.

00:18:57 Okay, yeah.

00:18:58 We're going to play a clip, I imagine.

00:19:00 - We're going to play a clip from Joe

00:19:01 talking about Jalen's bounce pack game

00:19:03 and why Joe loves him.

00:19:05 - He has a game like Mondays

00:19:08 or just kind of the ups and downs with the playmaking.

00:19:11 Do you spend extra time in the film?

00:19:13 Like how do you see him kind of react to a game like Mondays

00:19:16 and what leads to a night like tonight for him?

00:19:18 - I mean, one, it's not overreacting to a long year,

00:19:20 so you're going to have bad games.

00:19:21 And two, it's just his habits.

00:19:23 Regardless if he plays well or not, he does the same thing.

00:19:25 Same routine after shoot around,

00:19:27 whether it with his film and with Reid down the court

00:19:30 with his coaches.

00:19:31 And so for him, it's just, he stays even keel.

00:19:34 And so it's easy to trust him

00:19:35 and know that he's going to work his way back.

00:19:38 - Yeah.

00:19:39 - Okay.

00:19:40 - Not too high, not too low.

00:19:41 - Yep.

00:19:42 - Up, up, up, up.

00:19:43 - Put in your work.

00:19:45 Talk to the coaches.

00:19:47 Do your thing.

00:19:48 I wonder, here's what I've always wondered.

00:19:50 - Joe answer.

00:19:50 - It's fair.

00:19:53 I mean, no, it's fair.

00:19:54 Joe's pretty consistent with that.

00:19:57 I mean, Joe's philosophy is that, you know,

00:20:00 much in the same way Stevens did it back in the day,

00:20:03 I'm not going to go in here and tell these guys

00:20:05 what to do and what not to do.

00:20:07 I'm here to kind of provide some order.

00:20:09 (laughing)

00:20:11 Hey, Ma, you don't have to work anymore.

00:20:19 - Ma, I'm moving out.

00:20:20 (laughing)

00:20:22 - I was playing poker during the pandemic

00:20:30 with friends in India.

00:20:33 Like, yeah, but they were, you know.

00:20:36 - Were they friends that you made through poker in India?

00:20:40 - It was a friend of mine who lives here

00:20:41 who had friends in India and we were playing a game.

00:20:43 We were playing poker, but they were playing,

00:20:46 because it was like their game,

00:20:48 we were playing with rupees

00:20:49 and I had to keep doing the math.

00:20:50 And I'm like, this guy just bet 400,000.

00:20:53 I was like, is that a lot?

00:20:54 Like, how much am I in for here?

00:20:56 - Call, I guess.

00:20:58 Now I have to remortgage, but whatever.

00:21:00 - It was scary.

00:21:03 - Trying to do the math on it.

00:21:04 No, but here's what I wonder with Joe, right?

00:21:06 'Cause he's a let him play,

00:21:08 let him figure it out sort of thing.

00:21:10 But like, sometimes like players like that freedom,

00:21:15 but sometimes you gotta be like,

00:21:17 you gotta be a guy like Brown thinking like, okay, cool.

00:21:21 But like, can you tell the other guy

00:21:24 not to shoot all the time and maybe for him to work it?

00:21:27 Because then, you know, like,

00:21:28 I don't know if he's thinking that,

00:21:29 like Tatum's just frigging launching it out of his ass

00:21:32 every time he gets it.

00:21:33 Like, what am I supposed to be doing here?

00:21:35 Or when Joe sees them playing my turn, your turn,

00:21:39 should he say like, hey, Jalen,

00:21:41 on this team with these starters,

00:21:43 if you move or you get space or you, you know,

00:21:47 you're cutting or you're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:21:51 that's gonna be the most effective thing for you to do.

00:21:53 Or is it just, hey, you guys are professionals.

00:21:56 Go out there, play, make the right read and go.

00:21:58 Because he always talks about that.

00:21:59 Like they don't run a lot of actions or sets.

00:22:02 They just kinda do, you know,

00:22:03 they just read and react to most things.

00:22:05 And, you know, Joe's pretty open about that.

00:22:07 He doesn't call a lot of stuff

00:22:09 and he just lets them kinda go

00:22:11 and just be good basketball players.

00:22:13 But like, when you have a lot of them,

00:22:15 it always feels like it's gonna be

00:22:17 at the expense of someone.

00:22:19 And the obvious redundancy between Tatum and Brown,

00:22:22 you know, when, it wasn't as big a deal

00:22:25 when it was only Tatum and Brown

00:22:27 'cause they're taking 60% of the shots anyway,

00:22:31 because there's nobody else there.

00:22:32 But now you have a legit,

00:22:34 and this is where the concern is,

00:22:35 a legit second or third option in Porzingis,

00:22:38 who needs to be fed, not just to keep him happy,

00:22:41 but because he's a threat

00:22:43 from multiple places on the court.

00:22:44 You have to look for him.

00:22:45 And then you have guys like Holliday up until recently,

00:22:48 and White who can find their own.

00:22:50 You're gonna find guys kinda wondering,

00:22:52 like, am I, what am I doing?

00:22:53 Should I do this now or not do this?

00:22:55 I wonder how much Joe kinda jumps in there

00:22:57 when he sees it getting all mucky,

00:22:59 like it has the last couple of games

00:23:00 and be like, let's figure out

00:23:03 what our roles are a little bit more.

00:23:05 I don't know.

00:23:06 - Yeah, I don't know how much he jumps in mid-game.

00:23:08 It doesn't seem like that often.

00:23:10 I will say that by having Holliday out there with White,

00:23:15 and I know Holliday has been playing great

00:23:17 on the offensive end, certainly,

00:23:18 but those are like two in-game coaches.

00:23:21 Those guys are so smart on both ends.

00:23:23 They get players in the right positions.

00:23:24 They work the ball around.

00:23:26 Where I think Mizzou doesn't have to maybe worry

00:23:30 if that's the word about whether or not Tatum and Brown

00:23:33 are gonna get in each other's way or make the right play.

00:23:37 I know that he trusts Tatum and Brown

00:23:39 as either one of those guys to be the ones to take the shot.

00:23:42 He said that.

00:23:43 He said, "We want it to be Tatum.

00:23:44 "We want it to be Brown late in game."

00:23:45 So Porzingis, I think, is aware of that as well,

00:23:48 and Porzingis has done and said all the right things.

00:23:52 He knows that he's, whether you agree with it or not,

00:23:55 he knows that he's the third guy on this team.

00:23:57 Some nights it might be different,

00:23:59 but I think overall, regardless of how well

00:24:01 you think Jaylin Brown's played this year,

00:24:03 he's still number two on the team,

00:24:04 and obviously Tatum's number one,

00:24:06 and that's not gonna change.

00:24:08 I think Mizzou is probably hoping that

00:24:12 as these games go on and the season progresses,

00:24:15 that these guys, with the experience playing together,

00:24:18 are gonna fit into the roles

00:24:20 that they're comfortable being in.

00:24:22 And it's reps, right?

00:24:24 I mean, the more you're out there in those situations,

00:24:27 the better off you're going to end up finding yourself.

00:24:30 So tonight was a great example of Jaylin Brown

00:24:32 not trying to do too much.

00:24:34 Again, eight assists, one turnover.

00:24:37 I wonder if he's ever had that stat line.

00:24:39 Probably not.

00:24:40 And I think there were situations in previous seasons

00:24:44 where it wouldn't be eight assists.

00:24:46 It might be four assists and four turnovers.

00:24:48 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:49 So him not trying to force shots,

00:24:51 him not trying to dribble too much

00:24:53 and lose the ball that way is a breath of fresh air.

00:24:58 Is that a Mizzou-a thing?

00:25:01 I don't know.

00:25:02 I think it's these guys that are just slowly understanding

00:25:05 the looks that are coming out there.

00:25:07 Yeah, Mizzou is gonna obviously sometimes call a timeout

00:25:11 and explain something that he sees,

00:25:13 but otherwise he's trusting these guys to figure it out.

00:25:16 Sometimes it's backfire.

00:25:17 Don't get me wrong.

00:25:18 They had very poor execution last season,

00:25:20 but this year we're seeing it a lot less.

00:25:22 And yeah, they gave up a lead in the fourth quarter.

00:25:24 That happens in the NBA,

00:25:25 but they were able to settle down, figure it out

00:25:27 and come out with the win.

00:25:28 So I don't know.

00:25:30 - You do know.

00:25:32 - I don't know.

00:25:34 I literally do not know.

00:25:35 - I don't know either.

00:25:38 But yeah.

00:25:39 - No, this is one, there you go.

00:25:41 There you go, John.

00:25:42 We're both gonna ride off into the sunset together.

00:25:45 - Lemon cakes, lemon squares.

00:25:49 - Lemon cakes with Lou.

00:25:52 (laughing)

00:25:54 Yeah, hold them on one of those stupid apps.

00:25:57 I probably played that like way too much

00:26:02 during the pandemic.

00:26:05 - Played what one?

00:26:06 - Just online poker.

00:26:07 - Oh, online poker.

00:26:08 Were you an online poker guy?

00:26:10 Yeah.

00:26:11 That was like a high school thing for me.

00:26:12 I got, I broke the-

00:26:14 - No, but we were playing with each other.

00:26:16 Like, you know, like playing with friends.

00:26:18 - Yeah.

00:26:19 - 'Cause we couldn't connect.

00:26:19 - That's true.

00:26:20 - So we tried poker back up for a bit anyways.

00:26:23 - We were doing a ton of that stuff.

00:26:25 So, but anyway, you know, on the Jalen stuff again,

00:26:28 I just, you know, it's the fact that he can,

00:26:31 that is both encouraging and frustrating, I guess,

00:26:34 because it's like, just do this.

00:26:36 Like, isn't this better?

00:26:38 Like, doesn't, don't you feel better after this?

00:26:40 You know, like, it's just a cleaner game, you know?

00:26:43 It's just better.

00:26:45 - Yeah, I almost have to see it.

00:26:46 I want him to like watch this game back, see it,

00:26:49 and be like, that felt awesome.

00:26:51 I just want to do this forever.

00:26:52 - It's just better basketball.

00:26:55 It's basic, you know?

00:26:56 Like, it's just simple.

00:26:59 - It's not as sexy.

00:26:59 It's not like dropping 40.

00:27:01 Like, that's sexy, right?

00:27:02 - Yeah, but it's like, everyone doesn't have to be Kobe.

00:27:04 You don't need to break someone's ankles, you know,

00:27:07 and rise up and hit some difficult fade away, you know?

00:27:10 Like, it's not, you know, and go up and like the stupid,

00:27:13 my goodness, like pull back donkey tried the other night

00:27:17 that wasn't against a legit shot blocker

00:27:19 when he's nowhere near the basket.

00:27:22 We don't need that.

00:27:23 - No, I like, no, I still do that.

00:27:24 I want the highlight dunk still.

00:27:26 I don't, I'd rather have the highlight dunks

00:27:28 than like the 12 three-pointers.

00:27:30 So give me, like he had the nice dunk tonight,

00:27:32 the little windmill type dunk.

00:27:35 I'm good for one of those still,

00:27:36 but pass up the forced shot or the, you know,

00:27:41 dribbling into two guys and turning it over.

00:27:43 Stop doing that stuff.

00:27:44 And now we're talking.

00:27:46 Now we're cooking.

00:27:47 - Yeah.

00:27:48 Now we're cooking.

00:27:51 - What's up, Kes?

00:27:52 - What's up, Kes?

00:27:54 Trying to get some of my sponsor stuff here.

00:27:57 Let me get, is this it?

00:27:58 Yes, I got it.

00:27:59 I found it.

00:28:01 I needed it.

00:28:02 I found it.

00:28:03 - I knew you were doing something, dude.

00:28:06 - I know.

00:28:06 Sometimes I have to do something.

00:28:08 I got a lot on my plate here.

00:28:10 Not just pies, Jimmy.

00:28:11 I got to manage this.

00:28:12 - You got a lot of pies on those plates over there too

00:28:15 out here.

00:28:16 - I got to manage.

00:28:16 - I'm hearing there's a brownie in the works too.

00:28:19 - There's a brownie that goes,

00:28:21 brownie gets, Jalen Brown gets the brownie tonight.

00:28:23 No question about it.

00:28:24 He gets the pecan pie brownie,

00:28:27 which was my special dessert for this holiday season.

00:28:31 - It looked good.

00:28:32 You sent me a picture.

00:28:33 - It was, we talked, I was joking about your waffle

00:28:37 the other day, just being a plate of, you know,

00:28:39 diabetes there.

00:28:40 This is, this thing is, it's rich and it's sweet.

00:28:44 And like, you should- - Topped with sugar.

00:28:45 - You shouldn't eat more than none of them.

00:28:48 Like you shouldn't eat any of these.

00:28:49 - You shouldn't eat them like after 6 p.m.

00:28:52 You should-

00:28:53 - I had a bite of one and immediately I was like,

00:28:55 start giving them away.

00:28:56 We, I had my daughter run some to the neighbors.

00:28:58 I was like, oh, get these out of here.

00:29:01 But let you guys know, if you want to get involved,

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00:29:07 What's better than turkey?

00:29:08 And I don't know, turkey's not even great.

00:29:12 But you know, Thanksgiving.

00:29:14 - Here we go.

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00:32:15 Bobby's in there too.

00:32:16 Did we get cornet action today?

00:32:17 No.

00:32:18 Did they stay with eight?

00:32:19 - We got a cornet selly.

00:32:21 We got a nice cornet selly.

00:32:22 - A really good one.

00:32:23 - On that, who was that?

00:32:25 - Was it the Hauser dunk?

00:32:26 - Yeah, it was the Hauser dunk.

00:32:27 And rightfully so.

00:32:29 I think everybody was on their feet after that one.

00:32:32 - That was great.

00:32:32 - Hauser threw down.

00:32:35 - That was great.

00:32:36 He did.

00:32:37 Hauser, as many two pointers as three pointers today.

00:32:40 That doesn't happen very often.

00:32:42 - No.

00:32:43 But when you're getting lobs,

00:32:44 sometimes you get to pass up the three.

00:32:46 You pass up a three for a lob.

00:32:48 That's about it.

00:32:48 - But how about that?

00:32:49 Every single Celtic in double figures tonight,

00:32:51 except for Drew Holliday,

00:32:53 who played his third straight.

00:32:55 And Bobby's gonna-

00:33:00 - Not a highlight reel.

00:33:01 - He's coming in here.

00:33:02 No.

00:33:03 - Guns blazing.

00:33:04 I was at shoot around today

00:33:07 and I talked to Holliday,

00:33:09 with a couple other reporters.

00:33:11 And he plays it really cool about the Milwaukee stuff.

00:33:16 If I'm gonna just read it,

00:33:20 I think he's peeved.

00:33:22 He took a little barb at the,

00:33:23 had a little barb.

00:33:24 Would have been nice if they told me.

00:33:27 I had no idea.

00:33:29 A couple of passive things.

00:33:30 It was like, it was well,

00:33:31 I mean, I was a buck up until like

00:33:33 the day before training camp.

00:33:35 So yeah, definitely shocked.

00:33:37 You see him in the locker room before the game,

00:33:39 kind of walking around.

00:33:40 Like, you know,

00:33:41 I know he's got his bearings here

00:33:42 and he's in a good situation.

00:33:43 I definitely think he was a little bit jolted by it.

00:33:46 I don't think he's gonna feel too happy

00:33:47 about this stat line right here.

00:33:50 - No, he's not.

00:33:52 And maybe a little bit of that is,

00:33:54 you know, again,

00:33:54 we were talking about forcing it a little bit

00:33:56 or thinking a little bit too much.

00:33:58 - And he does this.

00:33:59 - It's just a soccer now.

00:34:00 But yeah.

00:34:01 - Yeah.

00:34:02 Yeah, go ahead.

00:34:03 - We're just doing this with the bucks.

00:34:04 We just didn't notice it's all good.

00:34:06 Yeah, he's not a,

00:34:08 he's not Damian Lillard, right?

00:34:09 On the offense.

00:34:10 He's not an offensive.

00:34:12 He's not known for his offense.

00:34:14 He's known for his defense.

00:34:15 And so I guess the benefit of that

00:34:19 when he does have an off night shooting

00:34:20 is that he's not a liability on the other end as well.

00:34:23 So you take the good with the bad.

00:34:26 You'd like him to shoot a lot better than one of eight,

00:34:28 obviously, and one from five from three.

00:34:29 I thought a couple of those shots,

00:34:31 again, he's trying to get back.

00:34:35 You know, you could see he's trying to find that shot again.

00:34:38 So he's taken maybe a couple of shots that he shouldn't.

00:34:41 I'd be pissed off if I was him too.

00:34:42 I mean, I'm not saying he's still pissed off

00:34:46 that he's not in the bucks,

00:34:47 but you have to remember, these guys have families.

00:34:49 They got to figure out what the hell's going on now

00:34:51 with their, what are they going to do with living situations

00:34:54 just like that?

00:34:54 He's going to Portland, obviously,

00:34:56 he doesn't want to play there.

00:34:57 He doesn't think he's going to play there.

00:34:58 So where's he going next?

00:34:59 - Yeah.

00:35:00 - A lot of uncertainty.

00:35:01 They paid a lot of money to deal with it.

00:35:02 So no one's really feeling that bad for them,

00:35:03 but they have a right to be pissed

00:35:05 at their former organization for the way it went down.

00:35:08 I saw him go into the visitor's locker room,

00:35:11 the bucks locker room before the game,

00:35:13 and say hi to all the former teammates and everything.

00:35:16 And he seemed happy to say hi.

00:35:19 - Giannis wasn't that buzzy, huh?

00:35:21 - I did notice the interaction with Giannis was relatively,

00:35:26 I'm not going to say cold, but it wasn't very loving.

00:35:28 - I was going to pretend I didn't see you.

00:35:30 - Yeah, until you came up to me.

00:35:32 - He was like looking at like a iPad.

00:35:34 - He's looking down.

00:35:35 That was weird, actually.

00:35:37 - It was weird.

00:35:38 And then I clicked on the tweet and the first comment,

00:35:40 the first comment under the tweet was,

00:35:43 Giannis being awkward because he knows he got him traded.

00:35:47 And it was like, yeah, that's actually definitely true.

00:35:52 Like everybody knows that Giannis made that trade happen.

00:35:54 And so he basically forced them to trade Drew.

00:35:58 So whether or not they,

00:36:01 what it appears basically on that clip

00:36:03 is that there's definitely an unspoken,

00:36:06 awkwardness between the two now

00:36:09 because of that being the case.

00:36:11 - Yeah, exactly.

00:36:11 - Yeah, holiday stat line, nothing to be-

00:36:14 - And he didn't play a horrible game.

00:36:16 I still think he's making good decisions.

00:36:17 I still think he's solid on defense.

00:36:19 He's just been struggling a little bit here,

00:36:22 with knocking down shots.

00:36:27 But again, he went from an eight turnover game

00:36:29 to a two turnover game.

00:36:31 Mr. Perfect, Derek White,

00:36:32 who everyone thinks could do no wrong,

00:36:34 six turnovers tonight.

00:36:35 We're gonna give Derek a pass

00:36:37 because that doesn't happen very often.

00:36:40 - It doesn't, it doesn't.

00:36:42 And I did think he made a lot of nice plays tonight

00:36:47 and extra looks tonight as well.

00:36:48 I mean, he's not filling up the stat line either,

00:36:50 but those two guys have been rock solid this season,

00:36:55 White and Holiday.

00:36:57 I don't know if there's a better two,

00:36:59 two way guard combination in the league right now.

00:37:02 So you're not gonna put your hair out about it.

00:37:07 It happens, but they had production from their,

00:37:12 their three horses there,

00:37:14 Tatum, Brown and Porzingis, each with over 20.

00:37:16 And we already mentioned Brown kind of at the top

00:37:19 and they were the good things.

00:37:21 And honestly, the difference, the bench,

00:37:24 you got 31 points from your bench tonight,

00:37:27 all spread out between Warford, Pritchard and Hauser.

00:37:29 They're going with an eight man,

00:37:32 basically eight guys right now, eight man rotation.

00:37:35 And tell you what,

00:37:36 if you're getting that type of production from the bench,

00:37:39 you're gonna win a lot of games.

00:37:41 And it affords guys like Holiday or White,

00:37:44 or an off night from one of the top three guys

00:37:48 once in a while,

00:37:49 if you're getting production from that second unit.

00:37:51 And they did.

00:37:52 I mean, if you look at the plus minus tonight too,

00:37:54 kind of weird.

00:37:55 Every Celtic except Porzingis was in the negative

00:37:59 and you had Warford, Pritchard, Hauser all in the positive.

00:38:02 Hauser was plus 10, Pritchard plus six

00:38:05 and Warford plus five.

00:38:06 Everybody else in negative except Porzingis.

00:38:08 So the bench really showing their worth tonight

00:38:10 against a Bucks team that I think most people would say is,

00:38:14 you know, I guess their bench is fine.

00:38:18 They have Portis and Connington off the bench.

00:38:20 It's really nothing.

00:38:21 - This is quite a comment.

00:38:22 Hey Colin, how are you buddy?

00:38:24 Super chat.

00:38:25 - Colin dropped 50 on us last show.

00:38:28 So you can say anything you wanna say, bud.

00:38:30 (laughing)

00:38:31 - Seriously.

00:38:32 - Yeah.

00:38:33 Dame kicked Gino in the nuts, I guess.

00:38:36 - Dame charged across the dance floor

00:38:38 and kicked Gino in the nuts.

00:38:40 Luckily Gino got up.

00:38:41 Go Bee Gees.

00:38:42 I got you, yeah.

00:38:44 - Yeah.

00:38:44 - As long as it wasn't Kyrie.

00:38:46 Anybody but Kyrie can do that.

00:38:48 - Yeah.

00:38:49 I wanna say hey to Dudley.

00:38:51 Dud, you've been conspicuously absent.

00:38:53 I don't love it.

00:38:54 I just wanna point out that I notice,

00:38:58 but I'm glad you're here tonight.

00:38:59 Also, Big Cass, always good to have you in here.

00:39:02 And all of the regulars and all of the OGs,

00:39:05 thanks for hanging out with us on Thanksgiving Eve here

00:39:09 and many nights on the Garden Report.

00:39:11 We do appreciate you guys hanging out.

00:39:13 Yeah, I think Joe Sway is threatening to come in,

00:39:18 but we'll get to him in a little bit and Bobby as well.

00:39:21 Let me see, I might have another soundbite here

00:39:23 for us to play.

00:39:24 No, I got poor Zingus talking about his best buddy, J-Lo.

00:39:27 We don't have it yet.

00:39:29 We don't have it yet.

00:39:30 - Oh, what the F, Ahmet.

00:39:31 - Because Ahmet is frigging cleaning up your shit

00:39:34 all the time and he doesn't have time for Thanksgiving.

00:39:36 - I don't have anything to clean up.

00:39:38 Unbelievable.

00:39:41 - Yeah.

00:39:43 We'll get to that in a little bit.

00:39:47 But yeah, I mean, first look at the Bucs with Dame.

00:39:51 General impressions?

00:39:53 - I mean, Dame was really cool to start this game,

00:39:58 so I wasn't super impressed, but he got--

00:40:00 - I forgot he played for them for a little bit.

00:40:01 Like I wasn't paying attention.

00:40:03 Like I was deep in pies in the first quarter.

00:40:06 - I bet you were.

00:40:07 - Yeah, yeah.

00:40:08 - I don't know.

00:40:12 I mean, I think defensively,

00:40:13 they've definitely lost a step or two.

00:40:15 And I don't know if that's just because Dame's there

00:40:17 and Holiday's gone,

00:40:18 but I feel like they're either not focusing on it,

00:40:22 they're just slower, older.

00:40:24 I don't know what words you want to use for it,

00:40:26 but that's what stood out to me is that I felt, again,

00:40:28 and I know it ended up being a close game,

00:40:30 but I felt in the first half,

00:40:32 the Celtics were by far the better team,

00:40:36 the more energetic team, getting up and down the court,

00:40:38 playing with a lot more like purpose

00:40:41 and getting back on defense.

00:40:44 They weren't, you know,

00:40:44 it just seemed like one team was clearly better

00:40:47 than the other.

00:40:48 And I thought, you know, again,

00:40:50 the Bucks came out in the third quarter

00:40:51 and they played a little bit sharper,

00:40:54 but I wasn't super impressed by Lillard tonight.

00:40:57 And you know, what does that mean?

00:40:58 Nothing.

00:40:59 I mean, he's still Damian Lillard

00:41:01 and he's still going to hit massive shots.

00:41:02 And I know that he's come up huge for them already

00:41:04 in multiple games this year.

00:41:06 He hit a three late in the game tonight,

00:41:08 but overall, eh, nothing.

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00:42:13 We'd call that a winning bet.

00:42:14 - I 10,000% did not do that.

00:42:18 - You just cut me off for a Tangway.

00:42:20 - I legit did not do that.

00:42:22 - Then why did you take it off?

00:42:23 - Everything went crazy.

00:42:24 Here's what happened.

00:42:26 My headphones, my Bluetooth, I didn't charge it enough.

00:42:29 It's telling me it's gonna go out.

00:42:31 So I freaked out.

00:42:32 I looked for the cord.

00:42:33 All of a sudden, Ahmed comes in over the chat,

00:42:35 says, "I can't hear you guys anymore.

00:42:37 "If you need me, text."

00:42:38 And I was like, "What?"

00:42:39 And while he's telling me of his glitch,

00:42:42 Tangway just starts spitting out advertisements.

00:42:45 - I'm in the middle of my spiel.

00:42:49 I don't even remember what I was saying.

00:42:51 And I all of a sudden,

00:42:53 I felt like I was back in the newsroom

00:42:54 where I'm in the middle of typing

00:42:55 and Tangway just comes over and starts talking in my ear.

00:42:58 - I didn't do that.

00:42:59 - What's going on?

00:43:02 You got a combo between Dudley and Kes

00:43:03 on our screen right now going back and forth?

00:43:05 - Yeah, it's just riffing.

00:43:07 You guys should get an apartment together.

00:43:09 You really should.

00:43:10 - Can we go back to you cutting me off like that?

00:43:12 - I didn't mean to, Tangway.

00:43:14 - You still let it run for-

00:43:16 - Tangway, you son of a-

00:43:17 - You could have stopped the reef.

00:43:18 - I couldn't find it.

00:43:20 - You couldn't find the time to get in there.

00:43:22 - By the time I did, I was actually kind of enjoying it.

00:43:25 I thought Gary did a good job with it.

00:43:27 - Look at this.

00:43:28 - Yeah.

00:43:30 - Chat, and the chat's confused.

00:43:31 Everyone's freaking out.

00:43:33 - Pie check.

00:43:34 - Yeah, yeah, is that where you disappeared?

00:43:37 - Yep.

00:43:38 - Here we go, look at this.

00:43:40 Guys, I want to point out, I didn't say this,

00:43:43 even though I did say this, it's a bold prediction.

00:43:45 We had to predict something, but yes, this was a bad take.

00:43:48 Hauser's been great.

00:43:49 Ama didn't do anything.

00:43:52 - Bobby posted that on a show that you weren't on recently.

00:43:55 He created a lower third for it and he blasted it on there.

00:43:59 - I don't care.

00:44:00 Do I care?

00:44:01 - No.

00:44:03 - No, I don't care.

00:44:05 Come at me.

00:44:06 Go away.

00:44:08 - What are you guys talking about in here?

00:44:09 You guys going through the bold predictions already?

00:44:13 - We're talking about John.

00:44:14 - Shit got weird.

00:44:15 - Talking about John who blasted a three minute ad

00:44:19 over like my, I don't even know what I was saying.

00:44:22 All of a sudden I got tangway in my ear.

00:44:25 - Yeah, next time you say something I don't like,

00:44:27 frigging you're getting tangwayed.

00:44:29 - That should be the new rule.

00:44:30 If you're saying something stupid,

00:44:32 three minute tangway read, everybody has to suffer.

00:44:37 - Hey, Gary does a great job with those reads.

00:44:40 I don't know if I call it suffering.

00:44:42 The only person suffering is the one

00:44:43 that's trying to speak I guess.

00:44:45 - Jimmy is the fan favorite.

00:44:46 I admitted this last show.

00:44:47 Like I said, Jimmy gets less.

00:44:50 - Judah with a rare compliment.

00:44:52 - Jimmy gets less heat than everyone.

00:44:54 - 'Cause I, you know why?

00:44:55 Because I say less.

00:44:57 That's a little trick.

00:44:58 - No, you're just cooler than us.

00:44:59 - Say less.

00:45:01 Say less.

00:45:01 - Less is more.

00:45:02 - Better to remain silent and be thought the fool

00:45:05 than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

00:45:06 - Exactly.

00:45:07 Although a lot of people still know I'm a fool

00:45:10 and I've said less.

00:45:11 - What did I just walk into?

00:45:13 What is this?

00:45:14 - Show sway.

00:45:15 - Is this the self-loathing part of the show?

00:45:18 What's going on?

00:45:18 - We got show sway in the building.

00:45:20 - Everyone in the chat was blaming me.

00:45:22 - Good.

00:45:24 - You got.

00:45:25 - Oh, let me guess.

00:45:26 It's got something to do with pies, doesn't it?

00:45:28 - You got tangwayed.

00:45:29 No, just weird shit happened.

00:45:31 And all of a sudden, tangwayed just started talking over.

00:45:36 Jimmy's like, "And I'll tell you,

00:45:38 the thing I've wanted to say my whole life

00:45:40 that finally just came to me,

00:45:43 maybe the most important take of my life."

00:45:45 - Now all of a sudden it's like, "Yeah."

00:45:48 - Here we are.

00:45:49 - It's time to bet with fame.

00:45:50 - Go bet.

00:45:52 Odds are it's not a sports book,

00:45:54 but it's smart that makes you bet well.

00:45:57 Three means go.

00:45:59 - Gary's got great flow.

00:46:02 Yeah, that's spot on, pretty much.

00:46:04 - Honestly, Gary may have saved me

00:46:05 'cause I don't even remember what I was saying

00:46:07 or where I was going with it.

00:46:09 So it probably worked out.

00:46:11 - Yeah, it worked out for the best.

00:46:13 - He's got great pipes.

00:46:14 I actually did start to get into it.

00:46:15 I was like, "Oh, I'm digging Gary's read right now."

00:46:18 - Yeah, man.

00:46:19 Like I'm a fan for sure.

00:46:21 - It's better than the way you say it, John.

00:46:24 - Yeah, it is.

00:46:25 I suck at most things.

00:46:27 Joe Sway, tell us.

00:46:28 - I'll drink to that.

00:46:29 Thank you, everybody.

00:46:29 - We've spent about 30 minutes on you.

00:46:32 You can spend a few more.

00:46:33 - Yeah, why not?

00:46:34 - I mean, I love what Chris Dapsper's thing is

00:46:37 I had to say, especially his relationship.

00:46:39 - Oh, wait, wait, wait.

00:46:40 I'll play it for you.

00:46:41 - Off the floor.

00:46:43 And here's a bit, here's a clip of that.

00:46:45 Right here.

00:46:46 - Sorry, Ahmed put it up there.

00:46:47 Let me play it and then talk about it.

00:46:48 - Hey, wait, why don't you say something?

00:46:50 Oh, wait, John's gonna put you off now.

00:46:51 - No, Ahmed just told me it's here.

00:46:53 This is the chemistry bite.

00:46:54 Well, let's hear from Chris Daps

00:46:55 and then talk about it on the back end.

00:46:57 - You stole my tease, John.

00:46:59 - I didn't know it was in here.

00:47:01 - He's a bad guy.

00:47:01 - Oh, Ahmed called it.

00:47:03 He hit the odds are when he was glitching.

00:47:06 - And he was quiet this whole time.

00:47:08 - Don't blame the phenomenon.

00:47:09 - Don't blame the phenomenon.

00:47:10 - The producer was like, oh, this is all.

00:47:11 - It's just him making the game like easy for me.

00:47:14 I'm just making reads off of him.

00:47:16 If he comes off and he wants the handoff,

00:47:18 boom, I hand it to him.

00:47:19 I start rolling.

00:47:20 He kind of plays that game a little bit

00:47:23 and then he just either finish or throw the lob

00:47:25 and he's making it easy for me.

00:47:28 And then, yeah, and he's so explosive

00:47:30 and so quick with those back cuts and things like that

00:47:34 that it's also kind of natural for me

00:47:36 to just hit him on those back cuts and things like that.

00:47:38 So, yeah, all credit to JB.

00:47:41 - Yeah, but like you even have like

00:47:43 little behind the back flip to him.

00:47:46 - He's getting there.

00:47:47 It's not like, I would have liked that to be a little cleaner.

00:47:49 You know, it wasn't as clean as I would have liked to,

00:47:51 but we're getting there, yeah.

00:47:54 You know, some glimpses of those kinds of things.

00:47:58 Of course, we don't want to go overboard

00:47:59 and try to be fancy with the stuff.

00:48:01 We just want to be effective.

00:48:02 But those kinds of plays,

00:48:05 I believe will happen more and more.

00:48:06 And as again, it's just,

00:48:09 it's kind of natural for us to just play off of each other.

00:48:12 - Well said, Chris Stapps.

00:48:15 Well said.

00:48:16 - Why is this happening, Josue?

00:48:16 Why these two outside of like-

00:48:18 - You guys even like take rides together

00:48:21 and finish each other's-

00:48:23 - Sandwiches.

00:48:24 (Josue laughs)

00:48:25 - Where's that from?

00:48:26 - Hives.

00:48:28 - Yeah, you guys like sit at the lunch table together

00:48:30 and stuff.

00:48:31 - I mean, yeah, that has something to do with it.

00:48:34 But for me, the difference tonight was,

00:48:35 you sell a part where Chris Stapps in the beginning

00:48:37 said that Jalen does his thing, you know,

00:48:39 and we all know what that thing is, right?

00:48:40 Where he's dribbling, dribbling, dribbling,

00:48:42 trying to make a decision.

00:48:42 He didn't do that as much tonight, right?

00:48:45 He got into his decision-making bag, so to speak, right?

00:48:50 And he's just making these split decisions.

00:48:51 And I think a lot of times,

00:48:52 that's what's really been hurting him

00:48:54 in games and stretches where he can't find his offense

00:48:57 and he's out of tune with the rest of the offense.

00:48:59 And it's because he didn't take so long

00:49:02 to make those decisions this time around, right?

00:49:04 Even from the beginning, right?

00:49:05 I mean, literally, the first play of the game,

00:49:07 he goes right to the rim and dunks it home, right?

00:49:10 Gets a hand on the ball

00:49:11 on the defensive end of the floor, right?

00:49:12 You know, and then now you see this two-man game

00:49:14 between him and Chris Stapps where it's an alley-oop

00:49:16 or it's Jalen blowing past the defender every single time.

00:49:19 And the better they get at this,

00:49:21 it's only gonna make them,

00:49:23 it's only gonna make Jalen a better playmaker,

00:49:24 in my opinion.

00:49:25 And again, tonight, that was the biggest difference

00:49:28 in every facet of the game,

00:49:30 when talking about Jalen's approach.

00:49:32 It was no lag, there was no second guessing.

00:49:36 He got right into his offense

00:49:37 and that two-man game between him and Chris Stapps

00:49:39 is only gonna get better.

00:49:40 You're seeing that right now.

00:49:41 - Facts, my dog.

00:49:44 - You know, like that's the difference.

00:49:45 And look, Chris Stapps, from playing in this game

00:49:50 to the game in Philly, the matchups against the Knicks,

00:49:53 like he's continuing to play in these marquee matchups

00:49:56 and you're seeing a dialed-in focus version of Chris Stapps.

00:50:00 And he even said that, kind of jokingly,

00:50:01 but said that, man, maybe that's what's leading

00:50:03 to all these technical fouls, right?

00:50:05 'Cause he wants to put everything out on the floor

00:50:07 and he's so passionate.

00:50:08 And the moment he hears a whistle, it's just like,

00:50:10 you know, clapping his hands or looking at the ref.

00:50:12 You know what I mean?

00:50:13 And it's not like, I can't believe you just called that,

00:50:14 but it's more of a, I'm so in tune in the game

00:50:16 that I just, it looks bad.

00:50:18 It's bad body language, you know?

00:50:19 So it's something that he's gonna have to work on.

00:50:21 He said to us, you know, especially at the end of this game

00:50:24 where the Bucs certainly made it a lot more interesting,

00:50:27 right, you look at this final score here,

00:50:28 if you didn't watch this game,

00:50:29 you would think it was close to the route,

00:50:30 which obviously wasn't the case.

00:50:31 But outside of that, man, a lot of this just has to do

00:50:34 with him just getting used to playing

00:50:36 with such top-tier talent like Jalen Brown.

00:50:38 - To clear up something in the chat,

00:50:40 people are trying to guess what that reference was for.

00:50:42 Yes, it was used in Frozen,

00:50:44 but it actually was originally in Arrested Development.

00:50:46 Frozen grabbed maybe two or three little

00:50:49 Arrested Development dags made references in the movie.

00:50:52 - What reference, what is this?

00:50:53 - That long?

00:50:54 - Finish each other's sandwiches.

00:50:56 - Oh, the one we made, gotcha.

00:50:57 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:59 Josue, we got 100,000 rupees twice tonight.

00:51:02 Did you know that?

00:51:03 - No.

00:51:04 - Yeah, we did.

00:51:05 - That's what's up.

00:51:06 - This is mine and Jimmy's last show.

00:51:08 We were the ones here.

00:51:11 - Shout out to India, word.

00:51:13 - Hard work pays off, Josue.

00:51:15 - Oh man, guys, this was a blast, man.

00:51:17 Like we had, in the last three years, no.

00:51:19 - I'm eating chicken tiki masala for the rest of my life.

00:51:22 (laughing)

00:51:24 I'm rolling.

00:51:25 - No, that's what's up.

00:51:26 No, guys, we appreciate the support.

00:51:28 Man, we're global, we've been global.

00:51:30 It's amazing.

00:51:31 - Yeah.

00:51:32 - But man, this Celtics team, I mean,

00:51:34 from what we saw a couple of nights ago,

00:51:36 and man, we said this going into this game, right?

00:51:39 John and I were like, they're gonna win.

00:51:41 You know, we weren't all that concerned.

00:51:42 I wasn't quite sure it would look like this,

00:51:44 but this is the type of game that they're gonna,

00:51:49 you know, you're gonna bounce back from those losses.

00:51:53 And I think this is a team that's gonna pick each other up

00:51:55 when the other one's down.

00:51:56 Chris Staff talking about that as well with Drew Holliday.

00:51:58 He's like, look, Julian had the best game.

00:52:00 You know, we all know it's him playing

00:52:02 against his former team.

00:52:03 So he felt like that had a little bit to do

00:52:05 with everyone just a little more dialed in,

00:52:07 a little more focused tonight.

00:52:08 - Yep.

00:52:09 It was good.

00:52:10 And the threes felt.

00:52:12 - How about that?

00:52:13 - Yeah, doesn't that help?

00:52:14 - It does.

00:52:15 I mean, you wanna see what this team looks like

00:52:17 when they're not following,

00:52:18 but when you look at the way this team executed on offense,

00:52:22 the Bucks just don't have the personnel

00:52:24 to defend the three point arc.

00:52:26 How many open corner threes did we see tonight?

00:52:28 You know, like that's what this team does.

00:52:31 And they knew exactly what they were doing

00:52:33 against this Bucks team when it comes to how they defend,

00:52:37 especially in transition and defending the three point arc.

00:52:40 There's a whole lot of space,

00:52:41 a whole lot of ground to cover.

00:52:42 And this Bucks team just didn't have it, you know,

00:52:45 on defense.

00:52:46 They never found a momentum where you got the sense that,

00:52:49 you know, they will come back at least,

00:52:51 not until the last three minutes of the game.

00:52:53 - Josue, when you think about like previous seasons

00:52:56 being at the games,

00:52:57 did it feel like the Bucks just kind of came out flat

00:52:59 or did they just not have the same defensive,

00:53:03 like level that they can get to

00:53:05 that they've had in previous seasons?

00:53:07 - I think it was a little bit of both.

00:53:09 You credit the Celtics for their energy

00:53:10 just right out of the gate, you know,

00:53:12 treating this thing like it's a game seven, you know,

00:53:13 matchup and the Bucks,

00:53:15 they swung back before the end of that first quarter.

00:53:17 But outside of that,

00:53:18 you just never got the sense that they were locked in

00:53:21 and gonna steal the momentum.

00:53:23 And a lot of that has to do with the way they play

00:53:25 the two minute game between Giannis and Dame.

00:53:29 I mean, it changes a lot of who they were, you know,

00:53:33 identity wise, right?

00:53:34 But they sort of have to, because they don't, again,

00:53:36 they don't have a whole lot of offensive weapons

00:53:39 outside of those guys and Brooke Lopez.

00:53:41 And, you know, these guys, their second unit,

00:53:45 guys like Payne and, you know, Connington.

00:53:49 I mean, there's just, you're wondering

00:53:52 how they're gonna be able to even revert

00:53:54 to that defensive minded team that they were

00:53:57 when you look at this roster outside of their big three.

00:54:00 - What do you guys think of Middleton?

00:54:04 - Oh my God, did somebody pour concrete in his shoes,

00:54:06 like as a joke before the game or something?

00:54:08 - It's just minimized to a role player.

00:54:11 - That dude can't move.

00:54:12 Bobby might be able to-

00:54:15 - He doesn't look like the same guy, huh?

00:54:16 - No, he doesn't.

00:54:18 - He can still shoot probably, but he can't,

00:54:20 he's almost not a liability.

00:54:21 He's just not the same guy.

00:54:23 - But even that shot, Jimmy.

00:54:25 - I think that's why you got Dame.

00:54:27 - It's like a delay to it now.

00:54:29 Remember how that shot used to be,

00:54:31 especially in this building.

00:54:32 You would light up the Celtics in this building.

00:54:34 - I've never seen him miss.

00:54:35 - The guy shot over 60% in an entire series

00:54:39 against the Celtics, you know?

00:54:40 - He used to be a Celtics killer.

00:54:43 - Oh yeah, especially in this building.

00:54:44 He loved TD Garden.

00:54:45 Now, not so much.

00:54:46 - Yeah, does Bobby not know how many pies

00:54:49 I have left to make?

00:54:50 He's got to get on this show.

00:54:50 We're at the 55 minute mark here.

00:54:52 - He's really looking forward to that segment.

00:54:54 - Nonsense, man.

00:54:55 - Oh my God.

00:54:57 - He's just out tweeting.

00:54:59 - Yeah, I mean, you had a couple senior moments

00:55:01 between Dame not able to get the ball over the rim

00:55:03 on a dunk at the end and Middleton.

00:55:08 You know, I don't know.

00:55:09 - No, that's a Derek White effect, man.

00:55:11 Derek White was breathing down his neck.

00:55:13 You're talking about the last layup, the one he missed?

00:55:15 - Yeah, I mean, right.

00:55:16 - Yeah.

00:55:17 It's the pressure.

00:55:19 It's the pressure, guys, you know?

00:55:21 - Yeah.

00:55:22 - That backcourt between Drew and White,

00:55:26 even if White isn't, or excuse me,

00:55:29 even if Holiday didn't have it offensively,

00:55:31 that effort's always gonna be there on the other end, right?

00:55:33 And you can switch this team to death on offense

00:55:36 and it doesn't matter.

00:55:37 I mean, most of the time, what they would like

00:55:39 is like a Drew versus Giannis thing,

00:55:41 but that's great for the Celtics, right?

00:55:43 You know, between Drew and White defending the pick and roll,

00:55:47 that's pretty much led to this five game winning streak

00:55:51 that this Bucs team was on heading into this game

00:55:53 between Giannis and Dame.

00:55:56 - Yes, sir.

00:55:59 - Looks like Jaden Brown's talking right now.

00:56:03 - And the Bucs loved double teaming either Brown or Tatum

00:56:06 when they were on the drive.

00:56:07 And both of those guys just had the IQ

00:56:10 to find the open guy, you know,

00:56:11 or at least make the pass that led to an open three

00:56:14 or open shot or an open look.

00:56:16 And the one play in particular that stood out to me

00:56:18 was Jalen on the fast break.

00:56:20 And it was almost like he was this close

00:56:22 to going into what he always does, right?

00:56:24 So he's a double team, oh, I can split those guys.

00:56:25 And he stopped, turned, saw Tatum, gave it to Tatum.

00:56:29 Tatum wasn't necessarily wide open,

00:56:30 but Tatum gave the-- - Over to White.

00:56:32 - Exactly.

00:56:33 Hockey assist from Jalen that started it.

00:56:35 Like that was what was missing in a big way in Scarlet.

00:56:39 - That was my favorite play.

00:56:41 Like I tweeted about it.

00:56:42 That was my favorite play of the game

00:56:44 because it was obviously like selfless,

00:56:48 but it was just, it was patient and it felt like a plan.

00:56:51 And I don't want this to be totally derogatory

00:56:54 when it comes to Jalen,

00:56:55 but sometimes you don't feel like there's a plan.

00:56:57 It's just, I'm Jalen Brown.

00:56:59 I can get where I wanna go.

00:57:00 I'm just gonna go and figure it out as I get there

00:57:03 because I'm athletic and I'm quick

00:57:05 and I can get up and over you sometimes and hit tough shots.

00:57:08 So sometimes it feels like there's not a plan.

00:57:10 That play was, it was just a little rope-a-dope.

00:57:14 He goes in there and he kind of waits

00:57:16 and he gets to the elbow

00:57:17 and he sees the defense suck in a little bit

00:57:19 and he gives it to Tatum who kicks it right to White.

00:57:21 I love that play.

00:57:22 - And the Bucks can't help themselves.

00:57:24 Like they have to double, they have to.

00:57:26 And there's always gonna be that open guy.

00:57:28 Look, the Bucks are gonna make adjustments.

00:57:29 Again, the reason why I expected some of us

00:57:31 to go out there and beat them,

00:57:33 the way we were talking about two nights ago

00:57:35 is because I just feel like the Southerners

00:57:36 are just so far ahead of the Bucks.

00:57:38 And I'm not saying that's gonna be the case all season long,

00:57:40 but it's been the case for a lot of these top tier teams

00:57:43 where the Southerners have just found that continuity,

00:57:45 especially within that starting five

00:57:47 where it's not even close.

00:57:48 Like they're easily the most talented starting five

00:57:51 in the NBA, but they're also starting to evolve, right?

00:57:54 They're starting to grow as a collective unit.

00:57:59 And I think that the Bucks,

00:58:00 they have a lot of work to do.

00:58:01 And obviously, the five game win streak,

00:58:03 this is the best stretch of basketball

00:58:05 they played all season long,

00:58:06 but they ran into a Southeast team

00:58:07 that really wanted this win, desperately needed this win.

00:58:10 Maybe they didn't need it,

00:58:11 but they had that mindset because of the way they lost games

00:58:14 coming into this one.

00:58:15 And because they, like Zingas said,

00:58:17 it was important for Drew.

00:58:18 I mean, it was important for them because of Drew Holly

00:58:21 playing against his former team.

00:58:22 - Yeah, I don't even know if the Bucks have enough.

00:58:27 I don't know if they have enough.

00:58:28 They got 28 points from Brooke Lopez tonight.

00:58:31 Like that doesn't happen.

00:58:32 - Right, he played, he was incredible.

00:58:34 - Yeah, he was great.

00:58:35 And if you're not getting that production out of him,

00:58:37 I just don't think they have enough horses

00:58:39 in the stable right now.

00:58:40 Yeah, you got Giannis and Lillard,

00:58:42 but if Middleton is just a shell,

00:58:44 you got nobody after that.

00:58:47 You don't really have anybody

00:58:48 that anyone's worried about at all.

00:58:50 - That's the difference, right?

00:58:51 - Or it is.

00:58:52 The Celtics have six, you know,

00:58:54 five, six guys that really can put the works on you.

00:58:58 Obviously, Horvath's not like, you know,

00:59:00 won't option one anymore.

00:59:02 - Right, yeah, but Jimmy, you know, right, exactly.

00:59:04 - Yeah, ask Bobby Portis if Portis is not option one.

00:59:07 He's still spinning around in circles

00:59:08 from what Horvath did to him earlier.

00:59:10 But point is, I just don't know if the Bucks have enough.

00:59:14 It happens, you know, obviously you age out

00:59:17 and you lose some talent

00:59:19 and that's kind of where they're at right now.

00:59:21 They don't really scare me the way they have in past years.

00:59:24 Obviously, Giannis and Lillard are, you know,

00:59:28 arguably the best combo in the game,

00:59:30 but I don't know if they've got

00:59:33 enough pieces behind those guys.

00:59:35 - I just think there's a significant drop off

00:59:36 after their top three.

00:59:38 Like, I'll say-

00:59:38 - After their top two.

00:59:39 - After their top, well, okay, yeah, you can say that.

00:59:42 Well, I mean, I'll even put,

00:59:43 I'll even give Brooke that, you know,

00:59:45 benefit of the doubt, saying,

00:59:46 okay, look, that's your top three.

00:59:48 And the drop off between the Celtics and Bucks

00:59:51 for that fourth best player,

00:59:52 I think is where the Bucks are in trouble, you know?

00:59:55 They have to sort of,

00:59:57 they have to sort of find some piece

00:59:59 that's gonna emerge as a threat to be the fourth guy,

01:00:04 you know, to Chris Middleton,

01:00:05 because it's, again, that significant drop off in talent,

01:00:09 I just think the Celtics are just a mile ahead of them.

01:00:12 - Couple of Jalen quotes coming out right now.

01:00:14 - Like this one?

01:00:16 - Yeah.

01:00:17 (laughing)

01:00:18 Yeah.

01:00:19 Yeah, I was gonna read that.

01:00:20 - I hope that one's-

01:00:21 - I didn't really wanna read it.

01:00:22 - I hope that's good.

01:00:23 - Yeah.

01:00:24 - I hope that's verbatim.

01:00:26 - I don't know if you could get there,

01:00:28 but I'm gonna throw this over the rim,

01:00:29 and you know, the rest is up to God.

01:00:32 - No, let me tell you something, man.

01:00:33 Luke Cornett lost his, you know what, man.

01:00:36 Like he flipped.

01:00:37 He was like, "Sam, I can't believe it."

01:00:39 - A lot of arms and legs.

01:00:41 - Oh, man.

01:00:42 Just flailing, like, couldn't contain himself.

01:00:45 - Okay, I'm putting it up there, Sam.

01:00:48 Go get it if you can, buddy.

01:00:50 - It was like he was looking at it as like,

01:00:51 "Sam can't do, oh my God."

01:00:53 Like he just lost it.

01:00:55 - Sammy?

01:00:56 - Couldn't believe it.

01:00:57 - We'll find out.

01:00:58 - We'll find out, whatever.

01:00:59 F it.

01:01:01 - Did you see Sam after he did it to you?

01:01:02 He put his arms up like he won a fight.

01:01:03 He's just like, "Yeah."

01:01:04 - Yeah, he was so fired up.

01:01:06 - You see that?

01:01:07 - Even Sam didn't know he could do that.

01:01:08 - Woody Harrelson at the end of the pickup,

01:01:10 you know, like, "He got it.

01:01:12 "Finally got it."

01:01:13 Wesley throws it up to him.

01:01:15 - There's another one.

01:01:18 Jalen Brown on the chemistry with Porzingis.

01:01:21 "I don't know what it is.

01:01:22 "It's just an automatic connection right now."

01:01:26 These guys might be in love.

01:01:27 It's like that running mate best friend

01:01:31 I always wish I had, but never did.

01:01:33 - Yeah.

01:01:35 - They sit next to each other on the planes.

01:01:37 - Love at first sight, man.

01:01:39 Love at first alley-oop.

01:01:43 - Yeah.

01:01:43 And this is true.

01:01:46 That was as low as an alley as you could throw.

01:01:48 He's like, "I'm gonna put this thing right at the rim."

01:01:52 - The first ever bounce pass alley-oop.

01:01:53 - This is like when me and my buddies

01:01:54 used to try to dunk, you know?

01:01:56 Like, you're gonna have to lob it right at the rim.

01:01:59 You know, like right--

01:02:00 - Yeah, you spend 10 minutes, it's gotta be right there.

01:02:02 - I mean, it's gotta be right over it.

01:02:04 - Right there, right there.

01:02:05 (laughing)

01:02:07 - No, no, the best is when you can't get it

01:02:09 and you're like, "Well, you're not throwing it right."

01:02:11 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:12 - Right.

01:02:13 That was a lot of that.

01:02:15 - As you can imagine, I was the guy throwing it up.

01:02:17 (laughing)

01:02:18 - Yeah, I had to like,

01:02:20 Josue, I was smart.

01:02:22 I knew at a young age I wasn't dunking on a 10-foot hoop.

01:02:25 So we bought the adjustable hoop.

01:02:26 - Oh yeah, we did that sometimes.

01:02:27 - You stuck the pole up there

01:02:29 and you gotta like wiggle it around

01:02:30 and it drops the rim down and then you just--

01:02:32 - Yeah, oh man.

01:02:33 - Just go ham on it.

01:02:33 - The best is if you get someone on a fake.

01:02:35 - Yeah, we were alley-ooping on--

01:02:36 - Dunk right on them.

01:02:37 Dunk right on their neck.

01:02:38 - No, I relied on those tosses, Josue.

01:02:40 That's the only way it was working for me.

01:02:42 (laughing)

01:02:43 Unless it was a girls' ball or a volleyball

01:02:45 or something like that.

01:02:47 - Oh, volleyball was big, yeah, 'cause--

01:02:48 - Oh my God, I could rip volleyball through, you know?

01:02:51 - Like after gym class, grab a volleyball real quick,

01:02:54 do a couple of lobs, yeah, we used to do that.

01:02:55 - With authority, with authority, I miss that.

01:02:57 - Yeah, you ain't getting up now.

01:02:59 - Oh my God, I can't even like,

01:03:01 if a ball gets stuck in a new net,

01:03:03 I can barely poke it through, you know?

01:03:04 - But, John, what was that year, I think it was 2019,

01:03:08 we did a little like 21 or whatever we were doing out there

01:03:11 'cause someone left the basketball by mistake

01:03:13 out on the court and of course we were like little kids

01:03:14 when we saw it.

01:03:15 You grabbed the rim, I don't wanna say you gripped it,

01:03:18 but I was impressed. - In dress shoes.

01:03:20 - In dress shoes.

01:03:21 - That's the impressive part.

01:03:24 - Once upon a time, once upon a time.

01:03:26 It's amazing when your legs go, holy crap, do they go.

01:03:30 Hey, rupees!

01:03:32 - We got more?

01:03:34 - Yeah. - We got more?

01:03:36 All right, we'll give those to Joe Sway.

01:03:37 - Oh man, appreciate you.

01:03:39 - Poor Bobby, he's the only one who doesn't get

01:03:40 the retirement. - That's okay,

01:03:41 Bobby's gotta put more time in, you know,

01:03:43 he's a young buck.

01:03:44 - Yeah, he'll have some good stuff on too.

01:03:46 - He's got plenty of rupees in his future.

01:03:50 - Let's see if we can, Amit was telling me.

01:03:52 - Damn, Kevin, you might be able to do,

01:03:55 Kevin's rolling over there in India, man.

01:03:57 Rolling in the rupees.

01:04:02 - Yeah. - That's actually good.

01:04:03 That could be a good song, Bollywood.

01:04:06 - Yeah, I'm stalling a little bit.

01:04:09 - Yeah, what do you got?

01:04:11 I feel like you wanna tease something.

01:04:13 - How tall am I?

01:04:14 I think I'm shrinking.

01:04:15 Think I'm shrinking. - Let's cut off

01:04:18 this topic immediately.

01:04:20 (laughing)

01:04:22 - I'm shrinking.

01:04:22 How tall are we, Jimmy?

01:04:26 - But that was about four years ago, man.

01:04:27 That's not bad. - That was not bad.

01:04:28 - I know, someone-- - It might have been 2020.

01:04:30 - Might have been called six feet.

01:04:31 I think I'm actually closer to 5'11" now,

01:04:34 but you know. - Me too.

01:04:37 I'm closer to 5'11".

01:04:38 (laughing)

01:04:41 - Let me see if we have this here.

01:04:42 Jalen with a really good soundbite,

01:04:46 which Amit's gonna tell me what it is

01:04:47 so I can lead into it, and then Bobby's gonna come here.

01:04:49 - It's probably the soundbite that we already ripped.

01:04:52 - It could be about the Hauser.

01:04:53 Is it about Hauser?

01:04:54 - Is it about the Hauser?

01:04:55 It could be about Porzingis.

01:04:56 - Oh, Joe Mazzullo.

01:04:57 - This is just--

01:04:58 Go ahead. - Someone asked Mazzullo

01:05:01 when you went to bed last night,

01:05:02 did he think that, or when you woke up, rather,

01:05:04 this morning, did he think that you would see an alley-oop

01:05:06 from Jalen Brown to Sam Hauser?

01:05:09 So he goes on and on about how Sam has that in his bag,

01:05:12 he's been great in the transition,

01:05:13 and then at the end he goes,

01:05:14 "But to answer your question,

01:05:15 "no, I did not think I'd see that tonight."

01:05:17 So he was impressed as well, man.

01:05:19 - I am told--

01:05:20 - Are they home on Friday?

01:05:22 - No, in Orlando. - No.

01:05:24 No, two o'clock start to--

01:05:25 - 2.30, yeah.

01:05:26 - Yeah, I don't know if it'll be 30.

01:05:28 - My sources tell me Jalen Brown actually smiles

01:05:31 in this post-game soundbite, take a listen.

01:05:33 - Jalen, you seem to be seeing the floor really well tonight.

01:05:39 What were you seeing out there

01:05:40 that kinda led to some of the passes you were making?

01:05:43 - Just being aggressive, getting to the paint.

01:05:46 You know, it's a team that likes to overhelp at the rim,

01:05:49 so some pretty easy reads on them all.

01:05:52 - What possessed you to throw an alley-oop to Sam Hauser?

01:05:57 - I looked at him, he looked at me.

01:06:00 That was all the confirmation I needed.

01:06:02 We locked eyes, and I said, "(beep)."

01:06:05 (audience laughing)

01:06:08 He looked at me like he was ready,

01:06:11 so I threw it to him, and he followed through,

01:06:14 so shout-out to Sam.

01:06:18 (laughing)

01:06:19 - That's a good one.

01:06:20 - That's exactly how I envisioned him saying it.

01:06:21 - Smile more.

01:06:22 - Smile all the time.

01:06:24 Jalen, pass more, smile more.

01:06:27 - Yeah, he's happier after a foul.

01:06:30 - Oh, can I represent him?

01:06:31 - I don't think he would hire you, John.

01:06:35 Way too much out there.

01:06:37 - Wait a minute, Jimmy.

01:06:39 This dude was a Donna Sports guy for a little bit.

01:06:42 I don't know, maybe John's got a shot.

01:06:44 - I might have a shot.

01:06:45 - Yeah, John might have a shot.

01:06:46 - All right, let's bring in Bobby.

01:06:48 What's going on, Bobby?

01:06:49 - We like this guy's smile, too.

01:06:51 There he is.

01:06:51 - Yeah.

01:06:52 - Yeah.

01:06:54 - Big win tonight.

01:06:56 John predicted it.

01:06:58 They sort of ran away with this one,

01:06:59 and you get some gripes at the end there

01:07:01 about how it slipped up, and other than that,

01:07:04 you look pretty good in this matchup,

01:07:06 and I was just over on the Bucs' side,

01:07:08 and what was pretty evident to me throughout this game,

01:07:11 the fact that the Celtics are a little further ahead

01:07:12 in this process of figuring out their new team,

01:07:15 the Bucs sort of agreed with, too.

01:07:17 Lillard and Giannis both talked about how

01:07:19 you can see how committed they are to the past,

01:07:21 that they have buy-in,

01:07:23 that everybody's believing and empowering each other,

01:07:26 which was the story of this game on the Celtics' side,

01:07:28 where there's a lot of clunkiness on that Bucs' side,

01:07:32 and they rallied late, last three, four minutes there.

01:07:35 They stormed back, hit a bunch of threes,

01:07:37 but these are two teams in different places

01:07:41 in terms of their acclimation to this new team,

01:07:45 and the Celtics look much further ahead to me.

01:07:49 There's still some weaknesses.

01:07:50 The rebounding has really slipped up.

01:07:52 The defense wavered at times late.

01:07:56 Joe talked about how they're giving up

01:07:58 threes too early in the shot clock

01:08:00 after they build these big leads late,

01:08:01 which has led to some of the slippage

01:08:03 the last few games here, and other than that,

01:08:05 I think you're pretty happy with this one.

01:08:07 Everybody was mostly involved.

01:08:08 Holiday had another weird one,

01:08:10 but the bench was great for the fifth or sixth game

01:08:12 in a row, which is awesome,

01:08:15 and Tatum and Brown played off each other

01:08:18 pretty well tonight too, I thought.

01:08:20 (laughing)

01:08:21 - I'm getting requests to Tangway Bobby already.

01:08:25 No, Bobby, great win, great win.

01:08:27 We spent a lot of time on Jalen,

01:08:29 and I'm gonna go back to it, no joke.

01:08:31 I mean, that's the best sound bite he's ever had.

01:08:34 - I didn't catch it, what'd he say?

01:08:37 - Oh my God, let's play it one more time.

01:08:37 - Where the heck have you been?

01:08:39 - Huh?

01:08:40 - I told you, I was on the Bucs' side.

01:08:41 This is the best, we're playing it again, here we go.

01:08:43 - He literally just told us.

01:08:45 - Jalen, you seem to be seeing the floor

01:08:47 really well tonight.

01:08:48 What were you seeing out there

01:08:49 that kind of led to some of the passes you were making?

01:08:53 - Just being aggressive, getting to the paint.

01:08:55 You know, it's a team that likes to overhelp at the rim,

01:08:58 so some pretty easy reads on them.

01:09:01 - What possessed you to throw an alley-oop to Sam Hauser?

01:09:06 - I looked at him, he looked at me.

01:09:09 That was all the confirmation I needed.

01:09:11 We locked eyes, and I said, "(beep)."

01:09:15 (laughing)

01:09:18 He looked at me like he was ready,

01:09:20 so I threw it to him, and he followed through,

01:09:23 so shout out to Sam.

01:09:25 - Shout out to Sam.

01:09:28 - Shout out to Sam.

01:09:28 (laughing)

01:09:29 - It's so good.

01:09:31 - Sam scored 10 points again.

01:09:33 He's gonna average 10 points again this season.

01:09:35 I'll take the L on the holiday prediction, John.

01:09:38 You're gonna have to take the L on the Hauser one.

01:09:40 He's here to stay.

01:09:42 - He might be, good for him.

01:09:44 - He looks awesome, so confident,

01:09:47 so assertive to do that.

01:09:49 Joe said after the game,

01:09:52 Sam does a lot of things people can't believe

01:09:56 he's capable of doing.

01:09:57 That certainly was on my list.

01:10:00 - That was awesome, that was great.

01:10:02 That's the moment, the Luke celebration,

01:10:05 that JB quote, that's like, yeah.

01:10:08 - Tatum's going pretty wild, too.

01:10:11 - Yeah, that's great.

01:10:12 Can Tatum and Brown be happy on the same night?

01:10:15 - No, Tatum's sick tonight.

01:10:18 - Is it possible, or was he sick?

01:10:20 - It's a new day, of course.

01:10:23 - Yeah.

01:10:27 - What happened in the Bucks locker room, Bob?

01:10:29 - I gotta, did you put the Dane bite in here?

01:10:31 Is it any good?

01:10:32 - He was a little salty.

01:10:35 - You want it, should I play it?

01:10:37 - I'll plug it, go ahead.

01:10:38 - Salty Dame, here we go.

01:10:39 I like this, we like salty Bucks.

01:10:41 - We like salt.

01:10:42 - We knew neither one of us was gonna

01:10:45 win the championship tonight.

01:10:47 I think the thing that made it a high level game

01:10:51 was they're the first team here, we're the second.

01:10:54 The winner walks away number one right now,

01:10:57 which means nothing.

01:10:59 A lot of high level players on their team,

01:11:02 a lot of high level players on ours,

01:11:04 and you're just embracing the competition.

01:11:05 That makes it a high level game.

01:11:08 High energy basketball environment.

01:11:11 That makes for a high level game,

01:11:14 but I didn't get traded from Boston.

01:11:16 I know I was in a mix of it, but I wasn't involved.

01:11:21 - Yeah, because you forced your way to Miami,

01:11:26 that's why you weren't involved.

01:11:27 - Way to describe that.

01:11:29 - First of all.

01:11:30 - A lot of salt in there.

01:11:31 - Yeah, there's a lot of salt.

01:11:32 First of all, you're in a four way tie for fifth,

01:11:34 or second, however you wanna look at it,

01:11:36 with four teams at 10 and five.

01:11:38 Second, if you won tonight,

01:11:39 you also weren't gonna be the number one seed,

01:11:41 but that doesn't really matter.

01:11:42 What did you think of the Bucs,

01:11:44 the new Bucs, Bobby, with Dame?

01:11:47 You fear them more, less, or the same?

01:11:51 - Less.

01:11:52 They don't look that good.

01:11:54 - Thank you, that's what I said.

01:11:56 - And I feel similar, I said this to Gasper

01:11:58 when I was talking to him,

01:11:59 and it reminds me of the Harden and Bede thing.

01:12:03 They come together, I compared it

01:12:05 to potentially Shaq, Kobe-esque, that pick and roll,

01:12:08 and instead they just sort of started playing

01:12:10 one and one out of screens,

01:12:11 instead of running a pick and roll.

01:12:12 And that's sort of what Giannis and Dame are doing.

01:12:15 I thought that whole 10-nothing start,

01:12:16 they were just trying to go at guys.

01:12:18 You know how the Celtics attack these mismatches,

01:12:20 they're going at guys like Payne,

01:12:24 or whoever's on that other side,

01:12:25 that's kind of a mismatch.

01:12:26 They were doing that against Holiday,

01:12:27 and Wyatt, and the likes,

01:12:29 and that's not a great way to play

01:12:32 that individual offense out there.

01:12:33 And they started swinging passes around

01:12:35 a little bit later in the game.

01:12:36 I do feel like they missed some really easy shots

01:12:38 throughout the flow of this game, too,

01:12:40 that could have changed things.

01:12:41 When it was like eight-ish in the second half there,

01:12:43 they missed two layups in a row

01:12:45 after that bad Tatum and Brown miss inside.

01:12:48 I think Giannis and, I want to say Lopez,

01:12:50 missed some skimmy layups the other way

01:12:52 that would have made it four.

01:12:54 So the Celtics did get fortunate in that sense,

01:12:56 but they don't impress me that much, John.

01:12:59 And it's early, but you see some of the guys

01:13:01 in their rotation, like Beauchamp,

01:13:03 I have high hopes for him,

01:13:04 but he didn't play great tonight.

01:13:06 Andre Jackson's a guy I really loved

01:13:08 who I wanted the Celtics to draft,

01:13:09 who brought some great energy to this game.

01:13:11 That's a rookie who was picked in the 50s, I believe.

01:13:14 So they go on down the line.

01:13:17 Connachton's good, but a more offensively oriented player.

01:13:20 - But it's not that, it's not the bench, Bobby.

01:13:23 Jimmy mentioned it.

01:13:24 That's the, it's right there.

01:13:26 It's the, you're only missing Jay Crowder tonight.

01:13:29 The issue with Milwaukee is the drop from-

01:13:34 - No horses.

01:13:35 - If Middleton is now like just a guy,

01:13:39 the drop from two to three or two to four.

01:13:42 - Middleton invisible tonight.

01:13:44 - The drop is huge.

01:13:46 So the problem, the Celtics, what are we worried about?

01:13:49 How are they going to be seven, eight, nine?

01:13:51 Right now they're playing great in that side,

01:13:54 at least from seven and eight.

01:13:56 And they're probably going to make another deal

01:13:57 at some point and kind of shore that up

01:13:59 and get a guy to fit into that spot.

01:14:01 But the box drop is at the higher end.

01:14:04 So they lack overall depth,

01:14:06 but they also just don't have like the same wide array.

01:14:10 Like they just don't have the same upper level talent

01:14:13 that the Celtics have.

01:14:14 And that's going to be a problem,

01:14:16 especially if Middleton is like not just back nine,

01:14:19 but like hitting his fourth shot out of the rough

01:14:24 on a par four on the 18th.

01:14:26 You know, like, you know, he's going to triple

01:14:29 and go have a beer.

01:14:29 Like he might be done done right.

01:14:30 - That's scary.

01:14:32 That's scary to hear that.

01:14:34 (laughs)

01:14:35 - Yeah, no, it is.

01:14:36 It really is because, you know,

01:14:38 well, I said this before you hopped on, Bobby.

01:14:41 I think everyone knew going into the season,

01:14:43 he wasn't going to be that, you know,

01:14:45 third best player on this team,

01:14:46 but to see how he's dropped off

01:14:47 and he's sort of needed to be that fourth guy.

01:14:51 And I think that's the biggest difference

01:14:53 when you look at where these teams both are.

01:14:55 And, you know, like I said earlier,

01:14:56 the Celtics have obviously found that there's stride here

01:15:01 throughout this first, what, 12, 13, 14 games of the season.

01:15:04 And the Bucks is just way behind right now.

01:15:06 And again, I don't know if that'll be the case

01:15:08 all season long, but it's certainly the case right now.

01:15:12 And I don't think it's close.

01:15:14 - Louis also complained about free throws

01:15:16 and said White and Holiday really didn't give him

01:15:18 that hard of a time.

01:15:19 So that was the tenor in the locker room.

01:15:21 Giannis wasn't happy either.

01:15:23 - Yeah, we're going to get a Giannis bite in here too.

01:15:25 - Yeah, Salty Giannis is up next.

01:15:27 - Roland, I mean, yes and no,

01:15:30 the Celtics are incorporating, you know,

01:15:33 two completely new players into their rotation.

01:15:35 - And it happened seamlessly.

01:15:36 - And it happened pretty seamlessly.

01:15:37 So again, you're just putting one guy in here.

01:15:41 It's not like the rest of them don't know each other.

01:15:44 The core here is intact.

01:15:45 - But are they committed?

01:15:45 You know, the two things they said is

01:15:47 the Celtics are really committed to passing.

01:15:49 They bought into that.

01:15:51 They want to do that to win.

01:15:53 And I find it interesting that the two stars

01:15:55 on the Milwaukee side said that,

01:15:57 because is that them implying that the Bucs

01:16:00 need to commit to that the same way?

01:16:02 I mean, what was their assisted turnover?

01:16:03 Assisted basket, 23 to 45.

01:16:07 - Yeah.

01:16:08 - It's not a great ratio.

01:16:08 - You know what the problem is, Bobby?

01:16:10 You know what they needed?

01:16:11 They need Drew Holiday.

01:16:13 It's like, that's exactly what they're missing.

01:16:15 Like someone to just connect the dots.

01:16:18 - And you know, being around them a little bit today,

01:16:19 I was surprised not a single person on that side said,

01:16:21 "Ugh, we didn't love seeing him land in Boston."

01:16:25 - And also like the whole incorporating Lillard

01:16:29 into the team, it's Lillard and Giannis.

01:16:32 Like that's the team.

01:16:33 And then you have a center in Brooke who is-

01:16:35 - Brooke was awesome.

01:16:36 - Well, he was great tonight.

01:16:37 And then one thing I said, Bobby,

01:16:38 was he gave you 28 tonight.

01:16:40 I mean, that's not even close to typical.

01:16:42 If he gives you his normal offensive output,

01:16:44 this is a blowout.

01:16:45 And it was a blowout for, you know, half the game.

01:16:48 And you know, it was still a double digit game

01:16:51 for majority of this game.

01:16:53 But you really got more from Lopez

01:16:55 than you can count on regularly.

01:16:56 And if Middleton is just a guy who's gonna,

01:16:59 even if he gives you 15,

01:17:01 I just don't see the depth on this team

01:17:04 like the Celtics have.

01:17:05 I just don't know how they would be able to contend.

01:17:08 - No.

01:17:09 I don't see it either, but it's early.

01:17:12 You know, maybe they figure something out.

01:17:13 Maybe they make a move.

01:17:14 They really don't have the pieces to make a move.

01:17:15 That's the other thing here.

01:17:17 They don't have picks or prospects even.

01:17:19 This is it.

01:17:21 This is kind of what you get over there.

01:17:23 - Yeah, I mean, Lillard's gonna be Lillard.

01:17:25 Giannis is gonna be Giannis.

01:17:27 That's your team.

01:17:28 There's not really a whole lot of,

01:17:29 what do they got to like,

01:17:30 figure out a way to get like how Connerton

01:17:32 and Lillard are gonna work together?

01:17:34 Like, I don't think that's it.

01:17:35 - No, that's your team.

01:17:36 And I mean, Lopez is Lopez.

01:17:38 - Lopez is gonna do all the dirty work.

01:17:40 - But Middleton is, you know, that's-

01:17:43 - It's Giannis and Lillard.

01:17:44 - That's the linchpin there.

01:17:45 If Middleton's done or like, you know,

01:17:49 just not even close.

01:17:50 If Middleton's a shell, you know,

01:17:53 then it's gonna be tough for them.

01:17:55 It really is.

01:17:56 I think it is.

01:17:57 - We talked about the coach.

01:17:58 We talked about the coach a little bit yesterday too.

01:18:01 - He's a, yeah.

01:18:03 - Maybe it's not on him,

01:18:04 but I don't feel like he's helping a ton.

01:18:07 In fact, there was a point in the third quarter,

01:18:09 I don't know if you guys caught on the broadcast.

01:18:10 - Yeah, I was gonna say, let's get into this.

01:18:13 - What happened?

01:18:15 - So, they were sort of going back and forth

01:18:18 and I felt like it was because-

01:18:18 - Who's day I missed that with Giannis.

01:18:21 - Giannis and-

01:18:22 - Giannis and Adrian Griffin, head coach Adrian Griffin.

01:18:25 It looked like he didn't want to get out of the game.

01:18:28 Right when they called a timeout

01:18:30 because they were gonna challenge a play,

01:18:32 it was like a back and forth.

01:18:33 It seemed like he was sort of on the outside,

01:18:35 you know, when they're huddled around

01:18:36 and the guys were sitting down or sitting.

01:18:37 And I got the sense that he's probably

01:18:39 not gonna check back in

01:18:40 since he wasn't one of the guys sitting down

01:18:42 and he was kind of on the outside

01:18:43 and Griffin kind of gave, put like an arm around him

01:18:45 and like, get in here with us.

01:18:47 And Giannis did and then after that,

01:18:48 he ended up checking back into the game.

01:18:50 But before that back and forth,

01:18:52 he was getting ready to pull them.

01:18:53 It looked like Giannis didn't like that very much.

01:18:55 So there was a little back and forth there.

01:18:57 - Yeah, Giannis got asked to explain it

01:18:59 in the locker room and he said no.

01:19:00 - Yeah, man, these guys are hot.

01:19:04 - That's just it, he didn't want to get out of the game.

01:19:06 - They got a huge dose of reality, I feel like.

01:19:07 And you know, you can just tell from the way

01:19:10 Lillard's sounding in that clip right there

01:19:12 and then we're gonna hear Giannis right now in a second.

01:19:15 Yeah, man, I think they're really starting to realize

01:19:17 just again, how much of a, how like significant

01:19:20 that gap is between the Celtics and the Bucks right now.

01:19:22 - They had changed their defensive system this year too.

01:19:26 And the players didn't like it and they changed it back,

01:19:30 you know, from what I've read too.

01:19:32 So, they're having their,

01:19:35 - But before the season started, Bobby,

01:19:38 when assistant Terry Scott, what was his?

01:19:42 - Terry Scott quit.

01:19:43 - Terry Scott, excuse me, Terry Scott's a guy

01:19:46 who obviously has a lot of experience with coaching games,

01:19:49 a head coach in Portland.

01:19:51 Some disagreement or it seemed like from the article

01:19:55 in the Athletic, he was hanging around the players

01:19:58 when the coaches wanted him to come on the other end.

01:20:00 Griffin calls him over, he sort of resisted

01:20:02 and then two days later he quit, so.

01:20:04 - That was a Lillard guy, right?

01:20:06 - Yeah.

01:20:07 - All those years he was coaching him in Portland.

01:20:09 - Griffin's kind of trying to assert his authority there.

01:20:11 - But John, that's supposed to be an asset, you know?

01:20:13 - I know, but it's like, he's in a tough spot.

01:20:15 It's like, I can't say everybody come here

01:20:18 and you'd be like, nah, I'm cool.

01:20:19 I'm gonna keep doing my thing.

01:20:20 He's acting like a guy with a bit of authority.

01:20:23 I'm not taking a side on it, but.

01:20:25 - And the season hadn't even started yet.

01:20:27 - Hadn't started, I definitely see how someone

01:20:29 could feel slightly undermined by it

01:20:31 and how Stott's gonna be like, give me a frigging break, dude.

01:20:34 But it's definitely not a great start to how that went.

01:20:37 - It's not, John, especially because not only that,

01:20:40 but it happened in front of the team.

01:20:41 Like, I just think things like that matter.

01:20:43 - That'd be something deeper there, right?

01:20:45 It couldn't have been that one incident.

01:20:47 - That, Bobby, and also I just think stuff like that matters

01:20:50 when you're dealing with veterans, champion,

01:20:53 you know what I mean?

01:20:53 Like someone like Giannis,

01:20:54 who obviously has been in the league long enough

01:20:56 to be in a position to say, hey, wait a minute,

01:20:59 coach, I don't agree with that.

01:21:00 You know what I mean?

01:21:01 And then to see the way things played out

01:21:02 between an assistant and him,

01:21:05 it's gonna raise a lot of questions, right?

01:21:06 And obviously when things aren't going well,

01:21:08 that's when you'll see turmoil.

01:21:10 That's when there'll be moments of clashes

01:21:12 that could happen, you know, who knows?

01:21:14 It's a lot.

01:21:15 It's a big spot to come in and take over.

01:21:18 - It's really hard, man.

01:21:20 You got two massive superstars there

01:21:22 and a team that has a championship or bust sort of mentality

01:21:26 and it's like, okay, go, you know?

01:21:28 - Right, and then you add, you know,

01:21:33 the quotes from Giannis, you know,

01:21:35 two weeks before the Lillard trade and the trade happens

01:21:40 and essentially the organization's thinking to themselves,

01:21:42 man, if we really wanna keep this guy around,

01:21:44 he might actually leave.

01:21:45 And all that happened right before training camp,

01:21:48 along with a brand new head coach.

01:21:51 - They might not be your biggest threat, but we'll see.

01:21:53 - We'll see.

01:21:54 There's time.

01:21:55 I mean, it's again, look how, look, you know.

01:21:57 - I think Philly's a bigger threat right now.

01:22:00 - But look how different things were last year

01:22:02 in the second half too.

01:22:03 Teams kind of figure stuff out.

01:22:04 So it is, I mean, even though it was salty day,

01:22:07 and I definitely agree there, like,

01:22:09 you don't know anything about anybody right now.

01:22:13 - If they play together, John, it's a challenge.

01:22:15 'Cause I did picture Porzingis on either Lopez or Giannis

01:22:19 and then pulling them out on those screens

01:22:21 and Lillard shooting those long, long threes

01:22:23 and really playing Porzingis off the court,

01:22:25 but they never did that tonight.

01:22:26 They really didn't put the Celtics

01:22:27 into uncomfortable positions defensively.

01:22:30 Porzingis got in a little bit of foul trouble,

01:22:32 but that was more on rebounding and physicality inside.

01:22:35 I feel like, you know,

01:22:36 as much as the Celtics can spread the Bucs out,

01:22:38 the Bucs could do the same in the Boston.

01:22:40 They really didn't do a good job of doing that here.

01:22:42 So that stuff might improve as the year goes on.

01:22:45 Again, Bucs missed some easy shots in this game.

01:22:47 If you look back on even that Lillard one at the end

01:22:50 where they were trying to execute the, you know,

01:22:51 two pointer down four, just missed a dunk.

01:22:55 So I think that factors into it.

01:22:58 Celtics are better,

01:23:00 but this could have been a little bit of a closer game,

01:23:02 I think.

01:23:03 Of course, the Celtics were lethal from three too,

01:23:06 for the first time in a little bit here.

01:23:08 - Yeah, but I mean,

01:23:09 what, I forgot his name already.

01:23:12 Kevin, Kevin's making it rain again.

01:23:13 You guys see that?

01:23:14 Some more rupees.

01:23:15 - Yeah, no, it's coming through.

01:23:16 - Let's go, Kevin.

01:23:18 - Way to go, Kevin.

01:23:19 - Kevin!

01:23:19 - I mean, when it comes to the threes,

01:23:22 it always, like, I mean,

01:23:24 sometimes it's as simple as they fell.

01:23:27 And we hate those games where we're like,

01:23:29 we got good looks.

01:23:30 - Passing is good.

01:23:33 - I posted this one.

01:23:34 Do you think they went about them the right way?

01:23:36 Like, they looked like they were working for that look.

01:23:40 I will say sometimes, again,

01:23:42 when you're playing big teams, I understand it.

01:23:44 I am a little bit leery of like drive and kick

01:23:48 being the only thing that you do.

01:23:50 I do think they are passing up some shots there,

01:23:53 but I understand why.

01:23:55 - They started 10 to 10 at the rim tonight,

01:23:57 which is pretty good.

01:23:57 It did feel like they really worked

01:24:00 to get those open shots.

01:24:02 We're gonna play Salty Yannis here

01:24:05 because we've been talking about it

01:24:06 and see what he's like after a loss

01:24:08 and why he hates his coach and everybody else around him.

01:24:11 - Weird feeling to play against him, sure.

01:24:15 Very tough that he's not with the team no more,

01:24:21 but life moves on.

01:24:23 Our team will move forward.

01:24:25 - You know, when he left,

01:24:27 obviously you got a great player in the team,

01:24:28 but you know, parting with him,

01:24:30 do you kind of lose something there

01:24:32 that you have to kind of make up for

01:24:33 when a heart and soul of a team like that leaves?

01:24:36 - For sure.

01:24:39 Now, do I feel like we lose something?

01:24:43 For sure, we lose 200.

01:24:44 He's a great player,

01:24:46 played in the league for a lot of years.

01:24:49 Winner, good teammate.

01:24:51 So you definitely lose that,

01:24:52 but at the end of the day,

01:24:53 we have great players in our team now

01:24:55 that can step up and not only fill up that void

01:24:59 and kind of carry that torch and do better.

01:25:04 - Looked like you had a little bit of a disagreement

01:25:07 with AG about coming out halfway through the third.

01:25:09 Could you kind of walk me through what happened there?

01:25:11 - No.

01:25:12 - Like a bag of Frito-Lay.

01:25:17 - Jeez.

01:25:18 - I know.

01:25:21 - Can you give me some examples?

01:25:24 You would think that he would say at least one name

01:25:26 to say like, "Hey, we still got this guy,

01:25:28 we still got that," you know what I mean?

01:25:29 But he didn't even, he's like, "No, we got guys.

01:25:30 We can replace what you all have been to us."

01:25:33 - Yeah.

01:25:34 - Wow, Bobby just called him the heart and soul

01:25:36 of the team right in front of me, honest.

01:25:38 That was bold of you.

01:25:39 - He was.

01:25:40 I thought he was.

01:25:41 - Yeah.

01:25:44 - Wasn't he?

01:25:45 - Who knows?

01:25:46 Yeah, he was good.

01:25:46 Any other takeaways before we put this one to bed?

01:25:50 - On Orlando.

01:25:53 - Well said, Bobby.

01:25:53 - It's gonna be a tough game.

01:25:55 Number one in defense.

01:25:56 - They beat Denver tonight.

01:25:57 - Yeah, it's gonna be big.

01:25:58 - And then gave the Celtics fifths last year.

01:26:01 - They always do.

01:26:01 - You guys know I've been a big fan

01:26:03 of the Raptors for a long time.

01:26:05 I think I'm shifting my allegiance to the Magic here.

01:26:09 - Are you?

01:26:10 - I really like that team.

01:26:11 - Damn.

01:26:12 - Apollo, all that defense.

01:26:14 It's a 230 tip Celtics have.

01:26:15 - What about all your Toronto fans?

01:26:20 - They left us.

01:26:22 - Yeah, they're quiet now.

01:26:24 - We had the bubble and that was about it.

01:26:26 All right, we're gonna move on

01:26:27 because we've been going for a bit here.

01:26:28 It's almost Thanksgiving officially.

01:26:30 And last year I blew the roof off this place

01:26:33 when I told everybody that I don't gravy.

01:26:35 And that became a big deal.

01:26:38 - Crazy.

01:26:39 - Yeah.

01:26:40 - Forgot about that.

01:26:40 - That was a bad, that was a controversial take

01:26:42 and knocked me down a few pegs

01:26:44 in a bunch of people's eyes.

01:26:46 So I'll ask you guys,

01:26:49 what are your most controversial Thanksgiving takes?

01:26:51 - Controversial?

01:26:53 - Yes.

01:26:54 - I have one that's really gonna bother people.

01:26:57 (laughing)

01:26:59 It's gonna bother you, John, actually.

01:27:01 I'll be honest, I don't really even really

01:27:04 like Thanksgiving that much.

01:27:06 It's one of my like,

01:27:07 it doesn't even probably crack my top.

01:27:09 Doesn't crack my top three for sure.

01:27:11 - What are you, a 4th of July guy?

01:27:13 - Christmas, 4th of July.

01:27:16 - Boston Marathon.

01:27:17 - Halloween's a lot more fun than Thanksgiving,

01:27:20 but I can understand why people

01:27:21 would disagree with that take, but.

01:27:23 - But Jimmy, you can drink at the dance table.

01:27:25 - Thanksgiving's fine, it's fine.

01:27:28 I like--

01:27:28 - Jimmy loves the big drinking holidays.

01:27:30 - I like Thanksgiving, I just don't--

01:27:32 - You can drink on Thanksgiving.

01:27:33 - You know what it is?

01:27:34 - That's what I'm telling him.

01:27:35 - I love Christmas, so I'm just way more

01:27:37 of a Christmas guy.

01:27:38 - Everyone loves Christmas.

01:27:39 - I'm the other way around.

01:27:41 - I was in New York for Buttfumble, by the way.

01:27:43 I have never been in a--

01:27:44 - Were you really?

01:27:45 - I've never been in a press box

01:27:47 where everybody just exploded laughing.

01:27:49 - I was in the newsroom.

01:27:50 - I was dying for that one in New York.

01:27:54 People were like, "That didn't just happen, did it?"

01:27:58 Then it starts playing on all the monitors,

01:28:00 and I mean, everybody's just frigging dying, but anyway.

01:28:02 - Yeah, I was working at NBC that night,

01:28:05 and I remember, I think it was Rob, Robbie Bucket.

01:28:08 He just was like, he just got up from his desk

01:28:10 and just started dying laughing.

01:28:11 (laughing)

01:28:13 We were all watching, waiting for the game to go,

01:28:15 and the Buttfumble was born.

01:28:18 And when I say I don't really like Thanksgiving,

01:28:20 it's not that I don't like it,

01:28:21 I just think it's fine, I'm fine with it.

01:28:24 - Are you being a Poe-kairi at Thanksgiving?

01:28:26 - No, it's nothing to do with politics

01:28:29 about why I'm not whatever.

01:28:31 It's just like, it's fine.

01:28:32 I like the fall.

01:28:33 Thanksgiving's like the end of the fall,

01:28:35 and then we move on to Christmas,

01:28:36 and that's my, I'm a big Christmas guy.

01:28:39 Thanksgiving, there's no Thanksgiving music.

01:28:42 I think Thanksgiving food is fine.

01:28:43 - All right, musician, my bad.

01:28:46 - I think Thanksgiving food is mostly not that great.

01:28:50 I like the desserts, turkeys, whatever.

01:28:53 - I'm sure if you ask ahead of time,

01:28:54 they'll let you perform, man, if you want to, it's cool.

01:28:57 - You can write a Thanksgiving song.

01:28:59 - Yeah, you can write the first hit.

01:29:01 - They had to be running Charlie Brown, right?

01:29:04 - That's just my take.

01:29:06 And that's not, and like, John,

01:29:08 I don't wanna rain on your parade.

01:29:09 I know you're a big Thanksgiving guy.

01:29:10 - You know I'm not.

01:29:12 - Stamp Thanksgiving on this guy's forehead.

01:29:13 - John's just a big food guy.

01:29:14 - No, I'm not a Thanksgiving guy.

01:29:16 I'll tell you my thing, John.

01:29:18 I'm not a Thanksgiving guy, actually.

01:29:19 I don't even like the traditional Thanksgiving food.

01:29:22 Everyone does different things, right, like in life.

01:29:26 Some people like to garden.

01:29:29 Some people like to build stuff.

01:29:31 Some people make little videos on their phones.

01:29:33 Nick's sitting here making these goofy little Instagrams.

01:29:37 You know, like, but it all comes.

01:29:39 - I like those, Nick.

01:29:40 - Me too.

01:29:41 It all comes down to creative.

01:29:45 Like, anytime you can make something that didn't exist

01:29:48 before you make it, it brings you some sense of satisfaction.

01:29:51 I don't get it.

01:29:52 I like the idea of just cooking a bunch of stuff, you know,

01:29:55 and just people liking it and like, look, I made that.

01:29:58 You know, like. - You like the host.

01:29:59 - I just, no, but I like the idea.

01:30:01 It's fun, it's fun to make stuff.

01:30:04 - Someone said they prefer ham on Thanksgiving.

01:30:06 That's an awful thing. - I hate ham.

01:30:08 - So I like making stuff. - That's some controversial

01:30:09 taking ham. - I don't get a whole deal

01:30:11 where I can just cook stuff, you know?

01:30:12 - Ham is for, get it the hell out of my face.

01:30:15 (laughing)

01:30:16 I'm all set with ham. - Anytime you buy something

01:30:17 that's basically already cooked and there's a bag

01:30:20 of like glaze you put on it and put it in the oven,

01:30:23 did you really make something?

01:30:24 - Yeah. - No.

01:30:25 - I know, right?

01:30:26 And that's another thing too.

01:30:27 There's not even like. - It's hard to make

01:30:27 jerky on your own.

01:30:28 I mean, there's people that will like,

01:30:30 they'll put it in like the, they'll like fry it

01:30:32 and all that stuff.

01:30:33 That's kind of. - Yeah, but you never

01:30:34 hear someone be like. - What are you supposed

01:30:34 to make, oh, beef wellington?

01:30:35 - He makes the greatest ham.

01:30:37 Like you'll never hear someone say that.

01:30:38 - No, no, no, you won't, you won't.

01:30:40 But like Thanksgiving to me, it's all about the sides.

01:30:43 It's not really about the turkey.

01:30:44 John, we got. - Oh, you're a sides guy.

01:30:47 - John, John. - I might be.

01:30:48 - I'm a sides guy. - I got one too.

01:30:51 - Give me your best side.

01:30:53 What's like a side you can't go wrong with at Thanksgiving?

01:30:57 It's gotta be a Thanksgiving side.

01:30:58 Don't say like, you know, lobster roll or something.

01:31:02 (laughing)

01:31:03 - I know, no one bought me.

01:31:04 He's gonna be like rice or something.

01:31:07 - No, I do like green beans, but that's not at the top.

01:31:09 - Oh my God, trash.

01:31:11 Green beans is trash, dude. - Wow.

01:31:13 Like that's like top of your list, green beans?

01:31:15 - No, it's not the top.

01:31:16 The top is stuffing.

01:31:17 And that's actually my favorite part of the meal.

01:31:20 It's my go-to first. - That's fair.

01:31:21 - I was gonna say stuffing.

01:31:23 - Great with the, great with the gravy.

01:31:25 I don't think John liked when I said that last year,

01:31:27 but that's my favorite part. - It's the only time a year,

01:31:30 it's the only time a year that you eat it.

01:31:31 So it makes sense.

01:31:32 Like no one's like in July having like stuffing.

01:31:36 You know what I mean?

01:31:37 - I get this is my controversial take

01:31:39 'cause I feel like this is way more popular

01:31:41 than it should be, but.

01:31:42 - It's gotta be good stuffing.

01:31:43 It can't be dry, go with your stuff.

01:31:45 - The whole like mixing the turkey,

01:31:48 the stuffing and the cranberry sauce, absolutely not.

01:31:51 I'm a cranberry sauce guy, jellied only.

01:31:54 And it's on the side and I treat it like it's dessert.

01:31:58 Don't you dare put it anywhere near my gravy

01:32:00 and potatoes or my turkey.

01:32:03 Like the fact that people make sandwiches like that,

01:32:04 like why would you do that?

01:32:06 It's almost like in the South where people,

01:32:09 they put jelly in breakfast sandwiches.

01:32:11 Have you guys heard of this?

01:32:12 Like, it's like a thing.

01:32:12 - I've heard of it.

01:32:13 - Bacon, egg and cheese with some jelly.

01:32:15 Take all that sweet out of my, like, no,

01:32:19 they're separate, okay?

01:32:20 So I guess that's my controversial take.

01:32:23 - It won't be like a Thanksgiving sub

01:32:24 that they do sometimes where it's like turkey stuffing.

01:32:26 - Those are great, those are great.

01:32:27 - No.

01:32:28 - So Joe Swain--

01:32:29 - I'll do it with no cranberry sauce.

01:32:30 - You're scooping out like a couple of slices

01:32:34 of the ocean spray cranberry.

01:32:37 - Yes, with the lines on it.

01:32:38 - You're just cutting it with a fork,

01:32:40 like a fork and an egg.

01:32:40 - And no one else eats it, man.

01:32:43 Like no one else in my family fucks with it.

01:32:44 Like every year, my mom pretty much gets it for me

01:32:47 and I got the whole can of myself.

01:32:49 - It's a gravy guy.

01:32:50 - Gravy doesn't ruin--

01:32:51 - All right, what's yours, Sean?

01:32:52 - My mom will have a little bit of gravy.

01:32:53 - Gravy ruins cranberry sauce.

01:32:54 - Wait, did you do one?

01:32:56 - Me, yeah, stuffing number one,

01:32:58 favorite part of the meal.

01:32:59 - That's not controversial.

01:33:00 - No, this dude--

01:33:00 - Everybody knows stuffing is number one.

01:33:02 - This dude makes it gravy.

01:33:03 - I didn't like that.

01:33:04 - Are you kidding?

01:33:05 - Green beans number two.

01:33:06 - That's weird.

01:33:07 - Wait, Bobby, you use stuffing as your controversial take?

01:33:11 - No, I guess I'm gonna,

01:33:13 I thought John didn't like that one,

01:33:14 but green beans number two--

01:33:15 - I think green beans at two is controversial.

01:33:17 - That's pretty controversial.

01:33:18 No, I actually--

01:33:19 - I mean, what's something that green beans blow?

01:33:20 - I don't consider it Thanksgiving

01:33:22 unless you have at least three types of stuffing.

01:33:24 - That's fair.

01:33:26 - Well, you're Thanksgiving guy.

01:33:27 - I'm not great.

01:33:28 - Oh yeah, that's true.

01:33:29 - No, you need a lot.

01:33:30 - Like what, like sausage or something?

01:33:31 Like what?

01:33:33 Like what kind of stuffing?

01:33:34 - So you can do a couple.

01:33:36 You do the classic dressing in,

01:33:38 classic stuffing in the bird.

01:33:39 You know the difference between stuffing and dressing, right?

01:33:42 If you don't make it in the bird, it's dressing.

01:33:44 It's dressing, it's not stuffing.

01:33:46 - If you don't make it in the bird.

01:33:48 - It's stuffing if it's actually stuffed.

01:33:50 - 'Cause you're not, yeah, you're stuffing the turkey.

01:33:52 - Otherwise it's dressing.

01:33:53 But to me, it's just the different variations

01:33:55 in what you do--

01:33:56 - I don't know if that's true.

01:33:57 - To it.

01:33:58 - So what's your take, John?

01:33:59 We're waiting on it.

01:34:00 - A controversial take?

01:34:01 I was just saying, I already dropped mine with the gravy.

01:34:06 I don't think I can get--

01:34:06 - Yeah, he hates gravy.

01:34:07 - I don't think I can get more controversial than that.

01:34:09 - So you'll just, so, but then you don't eat white turkey,

01:34:11 then you must eat dark turkey.

01:34:13 - When did you realize you didn't like it?

01:34:14 - Yeah, you can't--

01:34:15 - It's not that, what I'm saying is--

01:34:16 - 'Cause I'm sure when you were a kid,

01:34:17 you ate that, you ate gravy.

01:34:18 - I do not think, I do not like lathering my food in stuff.

01:34:23 The food is either good or it's not good.

01:34:26 If something needs to be lathered in flour--

01:34:28 - No gravy?

01:34:29 - If something needs to be slathered with flour

01:34:32 and butter and this and that,

01:34:33 probably don't eat it in the first place.

01:34:35 - So then you don't eat tacos then?

01:34:37 - Eat something delicious first.

01:34:38 - Then you don't eat tacos?

01:34:39 - What do you mean tacos?

01:34:40 (laughing)

01:34:41 - So there's a taco shell with ground beef,

01:34:44 you're just gonna eat it straight up?

01:34:45 - That's different.

01:34:46 - That's different.

01:34:47 - You won't put salsa, no, you won't put salsa on it.

01:34:49 You won't lather it up in salsa,

01:34:50 and you won't put cheese on it.

01:34:51 - That's completely different.

01:34:52 - Absolutely not, I just blew up your take.

01:34:54 - It's not, it's like, do you eat a burger

01:34:56 with cheese or not?

01:34:57 It's a cheeseburger.

01:34:58 - A taco's a cheeseburger in a shell.

01:35:01 - What do you put in your burger?

01:35:02 Catchup mayo?

01:35:03 - I'm not putting gravy on it.

01:35:05 - You put anything on it?

01:35:07 You put any condiments on it?

01:35:08 - No gravy at all?

01:35:10 - I just don't really do the gravy,

01:35:11 and yes, I drink, yes, I eat--

01:35:14 - Are you abstaining from making gravy?

01:35:17 - I don't make gravy.

01:35:18 - I think the argument you guys are having

01:35:19 is if you're gonna label gravy as a condiment,

01:35:22 I feel like is that what this is?

01:35:24 - Gravy, I think--

01:35:25 - I just hear--

01:35:26 - Is it a condiment?

01:35:27 - Here's the thing, I won't not eat even a dab of gravy.

01:35:31 I don't understand the people that have their plate of food

01:35:34 and then they just go, "Bleh, bleh, bleh."

01:35:37 - Those people have diabetes.

01:35:40 - What's the point of that?

01:35:41 It's like, it just becomes a lake of gravy.

01:35:44 - Yeah, you gotta be, it's portion control.

01:35:45 You gotta just, a little touch here,

01:35:48 a little touch here, a little touch there.

01:35:50 - But it's good though, it tastes good.

01:35:52 I mean, you can obviously overdo it

01:35:54 and then just like, no, that's too much,

01:35:56 but I don't understand how you don't like the taste of it.

01:35:58 - I'm only talking about Jimmy's dumb ass

01:36:00 Taco Bell cut tacos, not like actual tacos.

01:36:03 - You said, I don't put, it's either good or it's not good.

01:36:06 - I know what good tacos are.

01:36:07 - It's either good or it's not good.

01:36:09 So okay, so you'll just do a shell with ground beef.

01:36:11 It must be good.

01:36:12 - The ground beef has to be, yeah,

01:36:15 phenomenally seasoned. - Yeah, turkey is planned.

01:36:17 - Fine, there's talk, I'll show you the pies.

01:36:19 Here's the pies. - Nah, this is for bones.

01:36:21 This is for bones, turkey ain't planned.

01:36:22 - Turkey is planned.

01:36:22 Is that where you went?

01:36:23 You went to go take a picture?

01:36:24 All right, take a--

01:36:25 - Did you do this?

01:36:26 - Go clockwise from the top here.

01:36:28 - Top left is the pecan, it's the brownies.

01:36:31 Basically they're pecan pie brownies.

01:36:34 - I was gonna say.

01:36:34 - They're pecan pie brownies.

01:36:35 - Oh, okay, okay.

01:36:36 - So it's a brownie recipe with a pecan pie topping.

01:36:40 - Wow.

01:36:41 - Then you got a cherry pie.

01:36:42 - Wait a second, don't just gloss over that.

01:36:44 It's a brownie with, you put pecans on it?

01:36:47 - I did the whole pecan pie mix.

01:36:51 - What is this, the cooking contest?

01:36:52 - With the brown sugar and the honey and that.

01:36:53 - Wow, and then you, did you combine them all

01:36:57 before you put it in the oven?

01:36:58 - Jimmy, let him keep going.

01:36:59 What are you, judging him?

01:37:00 - You layer it, you put the brownies,

01:37:02 you let it cool a little bit,

01:37:03 and then you put the other stuff on top.

01:37:05 It's kind of a top layer of the pecan pie

01:37:07 on top of the brownie.

01:37:08 - It looks good.

01:37:09 - The next thing isn't a dessert, it's a corn casserole.

01:37:11 That's just there.

01:37:13 - Wow.

01:37:13 - And it's a cherry lattice, it's a pie,

01:37:15 cherry pie with a lattice crust.

01:37:17 I like making those.

01:37:18 Simple pumpkin pie and a basic apple pie.

01:37:20 That's all.

01:37:21 - Corn casserole, that's, instead of corn,

01:37:23 pumpkin looks great.

01:37:24 - That pie looks so good.

01:37:25 - Are those brownies?

01:37:27 - It almost looks fake.

01:37:28 - Wait, Bobby, did you just say all those brownies?

01:37:29 I just spent like 30 minutes talking about the brownies.

01:37:31 - Bobby wasn't listening to a word.

01:37:33 He wasn't listening to a word.

01:37:35 - Those are brownies with a pecan topping, Bobby.

01:37:39 - Brownies with a pecan pie topping.

01:37:42 - Now he's gonna say it again.

01:37:44 - Yeah.

01:37:45 - The corn casserole, so you don't do corn,

01:37:47 you just do corn casserole then.

01:37:49 Is that kind of like corn bread?

01:37:51 I would think it's like a corn bread.

01:37:52 - So it's kind of like, you know,

01:37:54 it's kind of like more like a corn pudding,

01:37:59 if that makes sense.

01:38:01 You know, it's a mash between bread,

01:38:03 but there's like softness in it.

01:38:04 There's some sour cream.

01:38:05 You can put cheese in it if you want.

01:38:07 It's actually really good.

01:38:08 It's better than, you know, it's like moist.

01:38:12 - No, sour cream is one of John's like secret ingredients.

01:38:15 - You got kind of extra with that pie on the left.

01:38:17 Is that your cherry pie?

01:38:19 - Yeah.

01:38:20 - I got kind of extra on that, dude.

01:38:21 With a little like weaving, like a basket going on.

01:38:23 - Right, it looks like a fake.

01:38:25 - It's like a work of art.

01:38:26 - The lattice crust, I love that.

01:38:29 - It's like what you see in the cartoons.

01:38:31 - I wouldn't want anyone to cut into that thing.

01:38:34 - Yeah.

01:38:35 - Just hang it up.

01:38:37 - What's John, if you have to go MFK these,

01:38:40 like which one are you getting rid of?

01:38:42 Which one are you marrying?

01:38:44 - Like I said, we make the basic ones.

01:38:46 - We make the basic ones.

01:38:48 - Actually, we already know what apple pie is all about.

01:38:51 - So the apple pie recipe is perfect.

01:38:56 It's perfect.

01:38:58 Apple's not my favorite pie, but this one's perfect.

01:39:04 - I'm more of an apple crisp guy.

01:39:07 - Me too.

01:39:07 - So there's where you got me.

01:39:10 - I got you there?

01:39:13 - Oh, John just became a favorite.

01:39:15 - No, John Hill.

01:39:16 - Wow.

01:39:17 - Yeah, I will not do that.

01:39:19 - You won't do a crisp on the pie.

01:39:22 - This is from much earlier in the show.

01:39:24 Someone's watching on repeat.

01:39:26 - That's true.

01:39:28 Yeah, I did that.

01:39:30 Hand up, hand up on that.

01:39:31 - I was like-

01:39:34 - I did space out for a second.

01:39:35 - Jimmy and I were having a two man conversation

01:39:38 and then he just stopped and I was like,

01:39:39 Jimmy, we're the only two people here.

01:39:42 You can't not talk to me.

01:39:44 - That happened.

01:39:44 - He's like, yeah, I forgot.

01:39:46 - Yeah, I was like on my phone for a second.

01:39:49 It happens often actually at work, here, dates.

01:39:54 Gotta get off my phone.

01:39:57 - I think it's your attention span.

01:39:59 - Yeah, totally, totally.

01:40:00 - So I don't like the apple crumbles.

01:40:02 That's a no-no for me.

01:40:03 - What's a side?

01:40:04 What's a go-to side, dude?

01:40:06 - Side?

01:40:06 - Yeah, side.

01:40:07 - So not pictured here, and this is,

01:40:10 we were going all day.

01:40:12 I'm making a second stuffing for the thing

01:40:15 that's kind of, it's got like a wild mushroom mix

01:40:19 with leeks and with bacon instead of sausage.

01:40:22 A little bit different.

01:40:23 - Leeks?

01:40:24 - Yeah.

01:40:24 - You could have skipped leeks.

01:40:25 - Yeah.

01:40:27 So there's that.

01:40:28 I have a lobster mac and cheese

01:40:30 is kind of like a side slash second main.

01:40:32 - Lobster mac and cheese?

01:40:34 - Yeah.

01:40:35 - That's pretty good.

01:40:35 - A pumpkin polenta.

01:40:37 Yes, I have that as well.

01:40:40 - Now, okay, now you're getting fancy.

01:40:42 What goes into that besides pumpkin?

01:40:45 - Oh, quite a few things as well.

01:40:47 - Is that like a porridge kind of?

01:40:50 - Yeah.

01:40:51 - You scoop that with a spoon, right?

01:40:54 - And then I also have like a celery and apple salad

01:40:59 with blue cheese and different things like that.

01:41:03 Just a different type of thing.

01:41:04 - Apples with blue cheese.

01:41:05 - And then what was the last dish?

01:41:07 Oh, this one's tricky.

01:41:09 It's called Hasselbeck potatoes au gratin.

01:41:12 They're sliced really thin and kind of arranged in a plate.

01:41:15 It's a pretty dish.

01:41:16 I wish I had that one to show.

01:41:17 - Why are you like this?

01:41:18 - Potatoes au gratin.

01:41:19 - How long you been doing this?

01:41:21 - I love it, man.

01:41:21 I love it.

01:41:22 I can't stop.

01:41:24 I see it.

01:41:25 I'm like, oh, I want to make that too.

01:41:26 And then I just do it.

01:41:27 - How did this happen?

01:41:28 Were you just watching the cooking channel one day or something?

01:41:31 - You need to create a garden report recipe book

01:41:33 instead of like.

01:41:34 - I love it.

01:41:36 I don't even eat most of it.

01:41:37 - High five.

01:41:38 - So here's my Thanksgiving,

01:41:39 my controversial Thanksgiving take, I guess.

01:41:41 - Wait, gravy's not it?

01:41:43 I thought that was the gravy thing.

01:41:44 - That was last year's.

01:41:44 I don't eat much on Thanksgiving.

01:41:46 I hate.

01:41:47 - That's right.

01:41:48 - I hate feeling ridiculously full.

01:41:51 So like I end up just kind of sitting there

01:41:53 and I'm like, I'll do it in like leftovers

01:41:56 and portions over the next three, four days.

01:41:59 Like I'll have a small little plate of this

01:42:00 or small little plate of that.

01:42:01 I can't stand the gorging on Thanksgiving.

01:42:03 I usually kind of center on one thing,

01:42:06 have a little of it, call it a day.

01:42:07 And then I just, you know, might nibble a little bit later.

01:42:10 Then I have a slice of pie and that's it.

01:42:12 - I have another really controversial Thanksgiving take

01:42:17 that I'm backing up tomorrow.

01:42:20 I think the best way to start your Thanksgiving

01:42:23 is with a morning 5K boys.

01:42:25 And I will be running my-

01:42:26 - Oh, you're doing one?

01:42:27 - Doing one tomorrow.

01:42:28 Great Gobbler in Nashville, New Hampshire.

01:42:30 Did it last year.

01:42:31 - Good luck, man.

01:42:32 - Starts at 8 a.m.

01:42:33 - Do it in under a half hour, you'll be fine.

01:42:35 - With some exercise, get the blood flowing,

01:42:37 earn my meal, earn those beers, earn those pies, folks.

01:42:41 Best way to get the day started

01:42:44 and, you know, get some family involved,

01:42:46 maybe see some friends from back home.

01:42:48 Little Thanksgiving 5K, quick 3.2.

01:42:52 - Yeah.

01:42:53 - Best side.

01:42:54 (laughing)

01:42:56 - What's your time gonna be, Jimmy?

01:42:59 What's your time gonna be?

01:43:01 - I mean, last year I think I did a 7-11 mile.

01:43:04 So I'm trying to just break that.

01:43:05 I haven't been running at all, so.

01:43:07 If I can do anything around seven per mile.

01:43:10 - That's fast still.

01:43:12 - Yeah, man.

01:43:12 - Yeah, I was cruising last year.

01:43:13 The weather's looking ideal tomorrow.

01:43:15 - That's a good pace.

01:43:16 - We'll see.

01:43:17 - Yeah, I thought it'd be-

01:43:18 - I'll have my results on the next show.

01:43:20 How about that?

01:43:21 Give you guys my results.

01:43:22 - All right.

01:43:23 You know, those don't lie, so.

01:43:25 - Wow, you got a little budget.

01:43:27 You gotta make something else now.

01:43:29 - So you know what kills you?

01:43:30 - Thanksgiving, buddy.

01:43:31 - Is the frigging, like, the lobster mac.

01:43:34 You know how frigging expensive lobster meat is?

01:43:37 Oh my God.

01:43:38 - Yeah, that's crazy.

01:43:39 Yeah, that's tough.

01:43:42 - Just to put a little,

01:43:43 just to sprinkle a little bit in there.

01:43:45 Oh my God.

01:43:46 - I wanna try it, though.

01:43:49 I'm a huge mac and cheese guy.

01:43:51 - Oh, it's good.

01:43:52 - It's the next level, though.

01:43:53 - Yeah.

01:43:54 - We did a friendsgiving with some friends

01:43:56 a couple of days ago and somebody made mac and cheese.

01:43:58 It was okay.

01:43:59 It wasn't like-

01:44:00 - Yeah, man.

01:44:01 That's the thing.

01:44:02 Like, you gotta really-

01:44:03 - It was kinda crusty, you know?

01:44:05 It was kinda dry.

01:44:06 - It's easy to mess that up.

01:44:07 - Right.

01:44:08 - So, yeah.

01:44:09 - What's amazing is, like, you're like,

01:44:11 there's no fucking way I'm putting this much cheese

01:44:14 and, like, whatever into it, am I?

01:44:16 - And then it tastes bland if you don't, right?

01:44:17 - It is bland if you don't, and you're like, oh my God.

01:44:20 - Splice and cheese for, like, 30 minutes.

01:44:22 - Dude, the hardest thing is the roux.

01:44:24 - Three different kinds?

01:44:24 - You have to stir for, 'cause you make the roux

01:44:28 and it's like the butter and the flour,

01:44:29 and then you pour a shit ton of milk in there.

01:44:32 - Yeah.

01:44:33 - And then you just stir it.

01:44:34 - Heavy cream was going in,

01:44:35 it looked like it was a disaster.

01:44:36 - So, wait for it to get thick,

01:44:37 and you're like, this is never getting thick,

01:44:39 and you're stirring for, like, 15 minutes,

01:44:41 and all of a sudden you're like, bubble, bubble,

01:44:43 bubble, here it comes, you know?

01:44:45 And then it's just this, you put the cheese in there,

01:44:47 it just becomes this sludge.

01:44:49 - Yeah, it was-

01:44:50 - Oh, that sounds bomb.

01:44:51 - It was work.

01:44:52 It was work getting through.

01:44:53 So, sometimes it happens with a friend's giving.

01:44:56 You don't know, can this kid cook?

01:44:58 We're not sure.

01:45:00 He's a friend, but like,

01:45:02 does he just do Uber Eats every night?

01:45:05 Confirmed.

01:45:07 Confirmed he did.

01:45:08 So.

01:45:10 We had good chili, we had good meatballs,

01:45:12 we had some good options there.

01:45:14 It was just, mac and cheese could have been.

01:45:16 - Yeah.

01:45:17 - Maybe next year.

01:45:18 - Yeah.

01:45:19 - My favorite side, I mean, this is so classic.

01:45:22 It's mashed potatoes and gravy.

01:45:23 You get a good mashed potato,

01:45:25 you gotta toss a little gravy and butter on there, John.

01:45:27 I don't know that's like against your religion,

01:45:29 but I'm not eating,

01:45:30 you're not sitting there eating dry mashed potatoes,

01:45:31 are you, John?

01:45:32 You at least put some butter on those, right?

01:45:34 - No, mashed potatoes are delicious on their own.

01:45:36 - But you put butter on them, right?

01:45:38 - I don't put them on them, they're in the mashed potatoes.

01:45:41 - Oh, okay.

01:45:42 - They're potatoes.

01:45:43 - Yeah, you're getting like a already mashed, yeah.

01:45:44 It depends, yeah.

01:45:45 It depends on how it's made.

01:45:46 If it's just made without all that stuff,

01:45:48 you gotta add it to it.

01:45:50 - No, next year we will do this.

01:45:52 You know what killed us with Thanksgiving this year?

01:45:54 - Bobby, he didn't invite us over.

01:45:56 - You know what killed me?

01:45:57 - I don't think he ever is.

01:45:58 - It was early.

01:45:59 It's too early for Thanksgiving.

01:46:01 - Oh, it creeped up on you or something?

01:46:03 - Yeah, it's gotta be next week and we'll do it.

01:46:06 - Yeah, that makes no sense.

01:46:07 - We'll do it, we'll do a live show.

01:46:09 - That's the worst excuse.

01:46:11 - Next year?

01:46:11 (laughing)

01:46:12 - We will do, it's hard to do it live.

01:46:15 We'll tape a show and we'll just have a big meal.

01:46:18 - In the kitchen.

01:46:19 - And whatever happens, happens, yes.

01:46:20 - We'll each cook something.

01:46:23 - Yes.

01:46:24 - Start thinking about what it's gonna be.

01:46:26 - What it's gonna be. - I'm down.

01:46:27 - Don't frigging start bringing green beans

01:46:29 into the conversation, Bobby.

01:46:30 - No, I'm not eating green beans.

01:46:31 - I'm not eating green beans.

01:46:32 - I need you to step it up.

01:46:33 - Don't bring me any vegetables.

01:46:35 - If Bobby pulls up with a green bean casserole,

01:46:38 we'll lose it.

01:46:39 (laughing)

01:46:40 - My butternut squash ravioli

01:46:43 is coming out again this year, boys.

01:46:44 - The mac and cheese, I trust Bobby with that.

01:46:46 - We are gonna do this, by the way, Tony.

01:46:48 We had one last year and we were so busy,

01:46:51 we just didn't fire it off.

01:46:53 So we're gonna come back to the tradition.

01:46:56 - We got one today, we got Tang Wade.

01:46:58 - Huh?

01:46:59 - Yeah, it's a big one, huh?

01:47:00 - We're gonna add that one to the list.

01:47:02 You got Tang, I got Tang Wade tonight, bad.

01:47:04 - Yeah, it was bad.

01:47:05 - It won't be the last time somebody gets Tang Wade,

01:47:06 I promise you that.

01:47:07 - No, it was bad.

01:47:09 - I promise you that.

01:47:10 - Bobby, what'd you think of Luke Cornette tonight?

01:47:13 - He'll be bad.

01:47:14 Matchups.

01:47:16 (laughing)

01:47:19 - I hope he's back.

01:47:21 - Your prediction's still gonna lose.

01:47:22 - Yeah?

01:47:25 - What's that?

01:47:26 - The DMPs one.

01:47:28 - Wish you could navigate the betting field

01:47:31 with the confidence of a pro?

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01:47:35 They're not a sports book,

01:47:37 but they're the sports betting advisor you always needed.

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01:47:43 I've been absolutely loving the experience.

01:47:45 (laughing)

01:47:47 - Oh, he left.

01:47:48 - Bobby wasn't even there for it.

01:47:50 - He got Tang Wade and he left.

01:47:51 We just Tang Wade him off the screen.

01:47:52 - We Tang Wade his ass off the show.

01:47:54 - We Tang Wade him off the show.

01:47:56 Oh my God, we Tang Wade him off the show.

01:47:59 I love that.

01:48:00 - He thinks it's over probably.

01:48:01 - Well, he's got work to do and we're just gonna go,

01:48:04 you know, he's gotta go, so I know.

01:48:06 Bobby, come back, Bobby.

01:48:10 - He literally got Tang Wade off the show.

01:48:13 Happy Thanksgiving, Bobby.

01:48:14 - He's so mad at you guys.

01:48:15 - Oh, he's packing.

01:48:17 No, he's trying to get out of there.

01:48:19 - Yeah, he's upset.

01:48:20 - No.

01:48:21 - I think he wasn't feeling this Thanksgiving

01:48:25 controversial take about 17 minutes into it, maybe.

01:48:28 But we'll see.

01:48:29 - Where did we lose him the other day?

01:48:32 - Oh.

01:48:33 - The candy one?

01:48:34 - How many times?

01:48:35 - This is a good expression.

01:48:39 He got Gary rolled.

01:48:41 (laughing)

01:48:43 Never gonna give you up.

01:48:48 - Yeah.

01:48:50 - Odds are you got Tang Wade.

01:48:53 (laughing)

01:48:54 Odds are your take sucked.

01:48:56 You just got Tang Wade.

01:48:58 - Yeah, maybe it was Halloween candy.

01:49:00 - And when you were trying to find that one YouTube video

01:49:04 and that stupid guy kept popping up,

01:49:05 like back in the day, he saved it.

01:49:08 - There was, no, there was something recently

01:49:09 where Bobby didn't speak for like 20 minutes.

01:49:12 - I think it was the candy conversation around Halloween.

01:49:14 - He was doing his article or something.

01:49:17 - You talking about green beans?

01:49:20 You get the thing.

01:49:21 - You know, after the green bean,

01:49:23 after the green bean take,

01:49:24 it just kind of went downhill from there.

01:49:26 - Yeah, no, all right.

01:49:27 Well, anyway, we hung out for a bit.

01:49:29 We knew this one would be a goofy show.

01:49:31 We're back on Friday.

01:49:32 Everybody, sincerely, have a good Thanksgiving.

01:49:34 - Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

01:49:36 - Thank you guys for hanging out with us.

01:49:37 - Thankful for you all.

01:49:38 - We're thankful for you guys.

01:49:39 - Oh, wait, is he coming back?

01:49:40 Or is it just Tomet?

01:49:40 - It's Tomet.

01:49:41 - It's Tomet, yeah.

01:49:42 - We're thankful for you all.

01:49:43 - You got Tang Wade off the screen.

01:49:44 - We are, I second that, Josue.

01:49:46 - What did he say?

01:49:47 - Absolutely, man.

01:49:48 I just said I'm thankful to everyone watching,

01:49:51 everyone tuned in.

01:49:52 Happy Thanksgiving, man.

01:49:54 The past summer or year or so,

01:49:58 I don't think Bobby and I talk about it.

01:49:59 We've never been approached by so many fans

01:50:01 in Boston and on the road, man.

01:50:04 We really appreciate it, guys.

01:50:05 Thank you, thank you.

01:50:06 - I never get approached.

01:50:08 - Yeah, you do.

01:50:09 Oh, you know what, though?

01:50:10 I wouldn't be surprised if they just say to themselves,

01:50:13 "Oh, that's John Zanis,"

01:50:14 and then they just keep it moving.

01:50:15 - Yeah, there's that miserable prick.

01:50:17 Stay away.

01:50:17 - Fuck that guy.

01:50:20 - Hey, see that guy over there?

01:50:21 He'll ruin your day.

01:50:23 Stay far away.

01:50:25 - And then he tells all of his friends,

01:50:26 "I saw John Zanis there,

01:50:27 "but never approached him, I could see."

01:50:29 - Yeah, there was a rain cloud just over his head

01:50:32 as he was walking down the street.

01:50:34 - They'd rather talk to you here, so.

01:50:38 But yeah, but no, seriously, thanks, guys.

01:50:40 - Yeah, maybe it's 'cause I don't leave the house.

01:50:41 I think it's also because I'm just surrounded

01:50:44 by too many olds,

01:50:45 and they don't even know how to use the internet.

01:50:48 - Yeah, that's true.

01:50:49 - Yeah, that's my problem.

01:50:50 - It's usually younger people, I guess.

01:50:53 That's true. - It is younger people.

01:50:55 - Yeah, no, it is.

01:50:55 Like I said, it's my neighbor's kids who recognize me.

01:50:59 I'm not kidding.

01:51:00 - I always say, when that happens,

01:51:04 I always say, "Oh, that's a diehard Celtics fan right there,"

01:51:07 because if he recognizes us,

01:51:09 that means he's not a casual, so.

01:51:10 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:11 - He's got sleepless nights.

01:51:12 - He's going deep.

01:51:13 - He's going deep, right?

01:51:14 - He doesn't miss a room.

01:51:15 - Deep cut.

01:51:16 - All right, guys, back on Friday.

01:51:20 It's a weird midday show, but I'll be here.

01:51:22 I'm not sure how else.

01:51:24 - You gotta sneak it in, maybe.

01:51:26 I'm actually golfing Friday in the morning,

01:51:28 believe it or not.

01:51:29 - That is nice. - Thanksgiving tournament.

01:51:30 - You know what else I do on Thanksgiving?

01:51:32 - You're a busy-ass day, Jimmy.

01:51:34 - 8 a.m. on Friday morning.

01:51:36 - One of my favorite things is holiday.

01:51:39 You say you do a run?

01:51:41 - Yep.

01:51:42 - If the weather's okay, I go on a holiday bike ride,

01:51:45 because it's amazing to have nothing on the street.

01:51:50 It's unreal.

01:51:51 You just go.

01:51:52 It's like the whole, there's nobody out there.

01:51:55 It's awesome.

01:51:56 So anytime the weather's okay,

01:51:58 I try to sneak one in in the morning.

01:51:58 - And it's the last calm day before,

01:52:01 over for the next six weeks.

01:52:03 - Six weeks until New Year.

01:52:05 - Yep, yep.

01:52:07 - So what is the weather?

01:52:09 - People become the worst.

01:52:11 - What is the weather?

01:52:12 - The weather's gonna be tomorrow?

01:52:13 - Yeah.

01:52:14 - Mid-40s, I think.

01:52:16 Mid to upper 40s.

01:52:17 - All right, we'll see.

01:52:18 - I think it's gonna peak at like 48 or something.

01:52:21 Sunny, though.

01:52:22 - Sunny might do it for me.

01:52:23 I might sneak one in.

01:52:24 Anyway, thank you guys again for hanging out with us.

01:52:26 We will see you guys on Friday.

01:52:27 Happy Thanksgiving, all.

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