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3 of Elon Musk's highly unusual leadership principles
Fortune
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11/20/2023
The Tesla CEO has a reputation for being unconventional and unpredictable, but his accomplishments are undeniable. These are the leadership tactics he deploys when building and running companies.
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- Let's get married.
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- Elon Musk is one of the most fascinating
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business people in the world.
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His approach is so unconventional.
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The guy has a very belligerent management style.
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He's very hard to work for.
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Were he not the owner or the lead shareholder
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or the controlling shareholder,
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all of these companies,
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some of which don't even have boards of directors,
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any conventional board of directors,
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were he a hired hand, would have fired him a long time ago.
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But look what he's accomplished.
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Everyone wants to know how he does it, right?
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What are his daily management principles?
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It really made it worthwhile to dig in
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and look at kind of the tools that he uses
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that have built him an empire,
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but also an empire that many question may be built on sand.
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One of the principles,
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I learned about it from one of his engineers
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who spent 10 years with him at SpaceX,
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is that he loves to keep turning over the workforce.
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- There were a lot of people doing things
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that didn't seem to have a lot of value.
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And I think that's true probably
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of most Silicon Valley companies,
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maybe not to the degree to which it was at Twitter,
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but yeah, there's a potential for significant cuts,
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I think, at other companies
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without affecting their productivity,
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in fact, increasing their productivity.
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- His personnel policy is extremely demanding
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and extremely belligerent.
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This engineer was telling me,
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"If I made a mistake in February,
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I'd spend the next 11 months
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worrying about making a second mistake
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because you make two mistakes a year, you're out."
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- At this point, I think I know more about manufacturing
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than anyone currently alive on Earth.
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I can tell you how every damn part in that car is made.
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- He demands that everyone know
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everything there is to know about,
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he calls it the idiot index.
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And the idiot index is knowing
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what the raw materials are that go into every part,
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what their cost of each of them is,
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adding them up,
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and then knowing what that finished part costs.
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And if you don't know that number, twice, you're out.
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Musk's greatest talent may be his ability to sell a vision.
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He doesn't want his shareholders or his investors
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to think too hard about returns on equity
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or what dividends are gonna be
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or any of these kind of conventional metrics.
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'Cause you could never get to a $650 billion market cap
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for Tesla using conventional metrics.
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You really have to believe.
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And he gets people to believe.
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- We're gonna move to just truly massive scale,
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scale that no company has ever achieved
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in the history of humanity.
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- The vision is essentially
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the Teslas that are out on the road
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and the ones he's gonna sell in the future
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are gonna be worth multiples of what you paid for them.
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Here's why.
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He's gonna send you self-driving software
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that you can install in the car.
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You drive the car nine hours a week on average,
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but with this software,
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your car can circulate all day as a robo-taxi.
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50 hours a week,
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you've got this money-making car picking people up.
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Therefore, the Tesla that you paid $40,000 for
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is gonna be worth $200,000.
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Therefore, he's saying,
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who cares about what our margins are?
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Who cares that they're going down?
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The point for us is to sell as many Teslas as possible.
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We're gonna discount.
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We can sell this software for so much money.
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That's where the big money's gonna come from.
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This is a tech company,
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not a metal-bending car company like all the others
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that have market caps that are 10% of Tesla.
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- Frankly, Tesla cars are robots on wheels.
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Anything that's connected to the internet
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is effectively an endpoint actuator
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for artificial intelligence.
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- One of his tactical strengths
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is his ability to spin these situational arguments
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that we'll use completely different points of view
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depending on what he wants to accomplish
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for the same company at the same time.
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For example, in the case of X,
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it's in his interest to paint a very bad short-term portrait
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of what's going on there.
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That philosophy is aimed at his banks.
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The worse they think things are going,
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the better his chance of buying out the debt
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at a huge discount 'cause they can't get rid of the debt
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because the interest rates are too low.
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On the other situational side,
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if he's looking at the future,
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it's another gauzy vision that he's promoting
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about how it's gonna be worth $250 billion,
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be among the biggest market cap companies in the country,
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and that's aimed at satisfying all of his big investors
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who are probably not so happy right now.
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Kind of the good cap, bad cap argument,
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in the short term, we're doing horribly.
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That's aimed at the banks.
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In the long term, we're gonna do great.
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That's aimed at placating the shareholders.
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I think there's a certain music man element to Elon Musk
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and that his arguments have to be taken
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with a lot of skepticism.
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And that has not been the case so far.
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But now you're in a situation
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where a lot of people are getting disappointed.
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Clearly, all of the big names that he pulled into X,
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these folks can't be happy with what's happened
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to the valuation of that company.
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He's got 13 billion in debt.
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The interest rates are eating him alive.
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They're absorbing most of the cash flow.
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A lot of Tesla investors are not happy either
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with the decline in the margins
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and the decline in the share price.
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Who knows how much lower it's gonna go.
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So really, things are not going well for him now.
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And we may be in for something of a revaluation
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of his promises and pledges.
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