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How Nick Cannon Built His Empire Beyond Wild N' Out | Forbes BLK Summit
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11/8/2023
Entertainer and Entrepreneur Nick Cannon sat down for Forbes Senior Writer Jabari Young to talk about Cannon's growing list of shows, Hip-Hop's 50th Anniversary and bringing together Black entrepreneurs at the ForbesBLK Summit in Atlanta.
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(upbeat music)
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- Here at the 2023 BLK Summit in Atlanta, man.
00:06
Nick Cannon in the house, man.
00:08
Really appreciate the time.
00:09
What do you think of the event, man?
00:10
- Jabari, man, y'all setting it off up in here.
00:13
It's live, it's electric, it's us, man.
00:16
So job well done.
00:17
- I appreciate that, man.
00:18
You know, I wanted to do this
00:20
because every time I watch that clip of you and Kenan
00:23
and how he always used to say he used to be a Jabari, right?
00:25
Like, it's amazing, man.
00:27
Now you sitting talking to a Jabari.
00:28
- To an actual Jabari.
00:29
- Yeah, you talking to an actual Jabari.
00:31
How does it feel to talk to an actual Jabari?
00:33
- I mean, I've envisioned Jabaris in my life.
00:36
Nah, man, it's a inside joke that Kenan and I,
00:40
that's one of my best friends in life.
00:41
And we literally, 'cause you know,
00:43
that's like, that's a black name that we all,
00:46
you know, it's your name.
00:48
So like, everybody know a Jabari.
00:50
- When I write the name and I fill out your ethnicity,
00:53
I'm like, come on, y'all can figure that out.
00:55
Y'all can figure it out.
00:56
So what's 2024 in store, man?
00:57
2023 is over, right?
00:58
- Man, I'm so excited about 2024,
01:01
all the innovation and entrepreneurial efforts
01:03
that we're putting together in the space of just content,
01:06
ownership, assets, acquisitions, you know what I mean?
01:10
Like, I've had the opportunity throughout my career
01:13
to kind of watch the game shift and be able to adapt.
01:17
And now I'm in that space, man,
01:19
of really building platforms to give others opportunities.
01:21
So, you know, we got a few new shows.
01:23
We got the Future Superstar Show that just launched
01:26
that really is about the next generation of music artists.
01:29
We got a show doing a lot of stuff
01:32
in the Amazon platform and building, you know,
01:35
they have so much going on from the spaces of commerce
01:37
and content merging together.
01:39
So I'm on there daily.
01:41
I'm on Twitch, I'm on Prime, I'm on Freebie.
01:44
So we're doing stuff with them.
01:46
And then of course, building this Wild 'N Out brand
01:48
to kind of continue to sustain in the space of, you know,
01:51
content creators, comedy, and really just brand innovation.
01:55
- What's the future of Wild 'N Out, man?
01:56
'Cause you just mentioned, I mean,
01:57
it was with MTV for a long time.
01:59
Do you continue on that path?
02:01
- I think it's grown beyond it, you know what I mean?
02:03
I love what Paramount is doing of how they, you know,
02:06
kind of compartmentalized everything,
02:07
but still keeping everything under the Paramount umbrella.
02:10
So now it's not, Wild 'N Out isn't just MTV,
02:14
it isn't just BET, it isn't VH1, it's its own brand.
02:17
And you'll see that more and more.
02:19
It's Paramount's most number one digital brand
02:22
out of all of their, you know, entities combined.
02:26
So I'm excited to just allow it to grow
02:29
and continue to partner with them
02:30
and allow it to stand on its own
02:32
because that's where it's going.
02:33
Like, we used to, you know,
02:35
turn to a certain channel to watch something.
02:37
Now you just type it in.
02:38
And from that, you know, we've had so much traction
02:41
and so much growth, especially in the digital space.
02:43
So we live in there super strong.
02:45
- Yeah, and you're just coming off of our panel, man.
02:47
Thanks you again, talking about Africa
02:49
and ways you can expand on that continent.
02:51
And I've been having so many conversations
02:53
with people that live in Africa, businesses.
02:55
I know FinTech is one of the areas that they're looking at.
02:58
What are you looking at when it comes?
03:00
I know you want to expand Wild 'N Out over there,
03:01
but is there any other areas?
03:02
- Yeah, the diaspora and the talent there.
03:03
You know what I mean?
03:04
Obviously music has already led the charge.
03:06
- Absolutely.
03:06
- You know, they're the number one music
03:08
around the world right now.
03:10
And then I feel like that's the same way
03:12
in the space of film and television, man.
03:14
I want, there's so many stories that should be told,
03:17
I mean, about the continent.
03:19
Great historical stories, man.
03:21
I wanted to even talk more about that on the panel.
03:23
Like we want to hear the story of Matamuse.
03:26
We want to hear the story of Nefertiti.
03:28
We want to hear the story of--
03:29
- Kela.
03:30
- Yeah, yeah.
03:31
It's so many that, you know, if we dig deep,
03:35
because I'm always one of the pontificators
03:38
when it comes to like, yo, we're much more than just,
03:42
you know, our post-traumatic slave syndrome.
03:44
- Absolutely.
03:45
- You know what I mean?
03:46
The African-Americans here always believe
03:48
our history starts with slavery.
03:50
When we come from great lineages of kings,
03:52
scientists, creators, you know,
03:54
the architects of our culture.
03:56
I want to be able to help tell those stories.
03:58
- Yeah, yeah.
03:59
2024, that's what the future is.
04:00
But let's flash back one minute to 2023, right?
04:03
Because you cannot talk about hip hop culture
04:06
without mentioning you in that, right?
04:07
I mean, you can't go,
04:09
and drumline was a piece of hip hop culture, right?
04:11
You're a piece of hip hop culture.
04:13
Did you like the way that hip hop was celebrated
04:15
on the 50th anniversary, or could it have been better?
04:18
- I mean, I always believe it could have been better
04:20
just because I feel like I am a child of hip hop,
04:22
as you put it.
04:23
So I want to see it on the biggest stages.
04:26
I think everybody who saluted it and celebrated it
04:28
did a fantastic job.
04:30
I love the fact that, you know,
04:31
everything from seeing the hip hop museum
04:33
go up in the Bronx to all of the things
04:35
that we got to see at the Grammys,
04:37
and I believe there's even another coming up
04:40
literally this week,
04:41
a celebration at the Grammys and CBS are putting on.
04:44
But we got to keep going.
04:45
We got to go harder because it is our culture.
04:47
It's the number one export.
04:49
And everyone knows that hip hop is taking over the world.
04:53
So, and it's still young, it's 50,
04:55
but I want them to scream it louder from the mountaintops.
04:58
But every celebration has been dope,
05:00
and it's so dope to see our OGs get recognized.
05:04
You know what I mean?
05:05
And bringing together with, you know,
05:07
everybody who's moving and shaking in the culture right now.
05:10
I think Jay did it, you know,
05:12
or Jay was celebrated in such an amazing way
05:15
with the Brooklyn Museum and, you know.
05:17
- Have you been?
05:18
- I haven't, I want to go.
05:19
I'm trying to get there.
05:20
I'm back in New York next week,
05:21
so I'm going to try to get out there.
05:22
- You got to, man, 'cause I'm not going to be there forever.
05:24
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:25
- I keep it getting as an exhibit,
05:26
so I got to go myself, man.
05:27
Hey, listen, I get you out of here on this
05:28
'cause you got a plane to catch.
05:30
Always ask people at the end,
05:31
because Jim Collins wrote a great book.
05:33
It's called "Good to Great."
05:34
- Yes.
05:35
- How do you transition from good to great?
05:37
You've been there, Nick.
05:38
You've climbed the ladder in entertainment.
05:40
Steve Harvey's one of your mentors,
05:42
like, you know, done that.
05:43
How does one get from good to great in this society?
05:46
- Perseverance.
05:47
You get from good to great by not stopping.
05:49
It's going to be many obstacles.
05:51
It's going to be many challenges,
05:52
but those are only meant to sharpen you from good to great.
05:55
You start off as good.
05:56
We all got some goodness in us,
05:58
but that perseverance, that stick-to-itiveness
06:02
is what allows people to become great,
06:04
you know what I mean?
06:05
Especially when you weather the storm
06:06
and you see adversity,
06:07
that's where the greatness occurs.
06:10
- Perseverance.
06:11
- Yeah. - Appreciate it, man.
06:12
- My man. - Nick Cannon, 2023,
06:13
BOK Summit.
06:14
Got to have you back in future summits, man.
06:15
- Come on, man, let's do it.
06:16
- Absolutely.
06:17
And you're going to African Barcelona, man.
06:18
- Let's go.
06:19
- Yeah, man.
06:20
- I'm here to make me part of the Forbes family.
06:22
- You already are, man.
06:23
- There it is. - Appreciate the time, bro.
06:24
- All right. - Thank you, man.
06:25
- My man.
06:25
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