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Comparison: 2011 Ford Mustang GT vs 2011 BMW M3 Coupe
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10/5/2023
We head to the race track with professional driver Randy Pobst to see if Fords reborn Mustang GT can keep up with Bavarias finest
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All right, I know what you're thinking.
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We did this comparison test just to rile up the fanboys.
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And you'd be right, except that there isn't compelling argument here.
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That that 2011 Mustang GT is every bit as good as the iconic BMW M3.
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Let's look at the numbers.
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The BMW M3 is a two-door, four-seat coupe with a six-speed manual and rear drive.
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It's powered by a four-liter, 414-horsepower V8 engine.
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The 2011 Mustang GT, also a coupe, seats four, two doors, six-speed manual,
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rear-wheel drive, but it has a five-liter V8 engine that makes 412 horsepower.
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The number that really gets us going, though, is the power-to-weight ratio.
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Each one of these cars weighs around 3,600 pounds, so
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they're carrying about just under nine pounds per horsepower.
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How does that all translate at the test track?
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Let's find out.
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Okay, so that's how they perform at the test track, but
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we wanna know how they drive.
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So we brought out professional racing driver Randy Popes,
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here to test drive these two cars back to back.
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Now Randy, what are your expectations here today, driving these two cars for
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the first time, the 2011 Mustang GT and the BMW M3?
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>> Well, they've got the same horsepower rating, and
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yet they're coming from very different lineages.
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I'd say the Mustang is the underdog, but we've seen a lot of improvement in
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the Mustang over the last several years, including our Motor Trend Best Handling
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and Best Driver's Car tests.
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So the Mustang has something to prove.
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The M3, we know, is the proven quantity.
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It has gotten heavier.
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It's really powerful.
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I mean, it's an enjoyable road car.
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And it'll be interesting to see if the Mustang can stack up to one of the best
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Europe has to offer.
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>> All right, let's go find out.
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>> Coming on to the front straight, about 4,200, we got good torque.
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Shifting up in the new Mustang, fourth gear.
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I like the shifter, I don't love it.
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Setting up for a fast sweeper, and we're balanced.
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I like the balance.
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Hard into the brakes, a lot of brake dive.
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Turns in, there's that torque, 3,200.
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But I'm running third gear, I don't think it can take the power in second gear.
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It's got enough torque, a little drifty on the entry in a good way.
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Good balance from the Mustang.
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It's got a lot of brake dive, a little soft in these track conditions,
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in terms of the shock absorbers.
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We're in the S's, good steering response, but
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those shock absorbers can't keep up with that quick weight transfer.
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Again, this fast sweeper, reasonably good balance.
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I love the braking, firm brake pedal, good power from the brakes.
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A lot of brake dive.
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Good balance, see this?
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Not much wheel in the car as we come out on the straight.
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Motor pull strong.
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Over the hill, it's a little hairy through here.
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The car kind of flies over the big bumps.
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Down into the braking, we stand right on the nose, but it rotates nicely.
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I like that.
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An enjoyable car to drive.
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Certainly the best Mustang ever in terms of handling.
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Sorry 1965 Shelby guys, but this thing will destroy it.
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Back out onto the straight, it's putting the power down well.
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Just enough to loosen it up and
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have a good clean balance across the finish line.
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I think it's a great package.
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Sure is a fun car to drive.
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And I think you could race the Mustang if you wanted to, as is.
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Best part of the car is the engine.
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The power is strong.
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Second best part of the car is the balance.
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Not a very pushy car, and I like that.
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Much better balance than the Camaro.
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Sorry Camaro guys.
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It doesn't have the torque the Camaro engine does, but it definitely has power.
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I believe the Mustang would destroy the Camaro.
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In the M3, it's got some tough competition.
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Steering ratio is quick.
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Almost perfect in terms of the quickness of the ratio.
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Little bit more numb than I might prefer, ideally.
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Mustang's the right name for this car.
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It's a pretty wild stallion.
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[LAUGH] Okay, we're winding up the start of the lap.
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I'm going to second gear, cuz the M3's got taller gearing, more revs.
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I can use the revs and the lower gear.
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Almost as if the M3's got less low end torque than the Mustang.
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Wow, good control in the high speed.
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Yeah, more shock control, kinda like might be expected.
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Little bit more push, that's a surprise.
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Country push, and push in the middle of the corner in the BMW.
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The steering is superb, I just need too much of it.
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Yeah, but no torque digging out of this hairpin going uphill.
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Good top end in the motor.
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Much better control at turn in than the Mustang.
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Wow, there's almost no sense of roll.
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I know the car's rolling, but in the Mustang you can really feel it.
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The BMW, I don't feel it.
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Slower responses in the transitions from the BMW, but way more control.
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Down into the S's, almost no brake dive.
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That I really appreciate in the M3.
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But I miss that mid-range torque that the Mustang has.
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Wow, the BMW just keeps revving though.
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Into the fast kink.
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Wow, if you try that in a Mustang, you'll be off the track.
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Much better shock control in the M3.
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That's the biggest difference.
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And in the brake dive, that's where I see it.
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Down through the S's, I'm going down to second gear again.
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I can just dance the car.
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Look at that push, there's more steering angle,
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but we can balance it with the throttle.
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Come out with a little power oversteer and use those revs.
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Across the finish line, the BMW's definitely a higher RPM motor.
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You can feel that influence from the Europeans.
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They're into that high RPM power.
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We Americans are into that low RPM torque.
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The BMW definitely has better shock control, very clearly.
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Less brake dive.
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The Mustang is better balanced, less understeer.
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Mustang's actually more fun as a result of that.
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I do like the accuracy of the BMW,
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but I'm a little frustrated by the understeer.
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Maybe it's less fun because it's easier.
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The understeer makes it a little bit kind of,
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I don't know, sort of dumb in a way.
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And whereas the Mustang, you need to be on top of that.
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You're, you know, the Mustang's the wild pony.
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The BMW is the refined European still.
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- Okay, so Randy, you've had quite an afternoon here
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driving the cars, got a chance to play around with them,
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do some really hot laughing,
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and then drive a lot for our cameras.
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What'd you think?
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- Well, for one thing, I love working with MotorTrend
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and driving these great new cars.
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It's been a great experience.
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The BMW and the Mustang are fabulous cars,
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and they're really rewarding for anybody
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that likes fast cars and sporty cars.
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- You did say going into this,
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you thought the BMW would be quicker.
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Do you still believe that?
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- I have a feeling that it is because of the shock control.
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It was just so much faster in the transitions.
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- Okay.
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Well, you were right,
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but the actual lap times only differed
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by less than a 10th of a second.
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- Wow.
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- So the BMW ran a 1.2767.
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The Mustang ran a 1.2776.
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So it was a .09 difference in lap time.
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- Wow.
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- What do you think about that?
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- God bless America.
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Let's hear it for the Mustang.
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I mean, that's a surprise.
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Because the Mustang's the underdog here.
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It's way less expensive.
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And I say it's the overachiever.
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The Mustang benefits from its greater torque.
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It could really come off these tight corners
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and pull real strongly.
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Whereas in the BMW, it's a very high revving engine
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in the European style.
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Takes longer to get on the power band.
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But beyond that, I think it was the fact
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that the Mustang will use all four tires.
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That's the balance that it has.
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On entry, you can get the car to rotate a little bit.
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Whereas the BMW had a fair amount of understeer,
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and the understeer slowed down its exit speeds.
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The Mustang also, believe it or not,
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I thought it was superior under braking.
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I'd be curious to see the data.
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It had a lot of braking grip.
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So to me, that is a giant win for the Mustang GT
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because the BMW is such formidable competition.
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- So there you have it.
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The BMW M3 beats the Mustang GT at the track
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by the slimmest of margins.
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Less than one tenth of a second.
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Our pro racer, Randy Popes, says that's enough
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to count as a giant win for the Mustang.
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And he has a point.
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After all, the M3 costs over $25,000 more
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than the Mustang GT.
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But we see it differently.
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Though the new five liter Mustang's performance
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officially puts the world on notice,
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the stopwatch doesn't lie.
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A win is a win, even if it's by less
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than the blink of an eye.
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The M3 is still just a little bit better
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than the Mustang at the track, for now.
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