Has Shahid Khaqan Abbasi parted ways with Nawaz? Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar comments
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00:00 He is coming back on Friday. I didn't talk to him on the phone.
00:07 I didn't ask him because this is a conversation that we will have in front of him.
00:13 He will come back. The statement that he gave after coming out, that statement is in front of everyone.
00:19 It seems like a farewell. I think when he comes back, we will have a conversation on that.
00:26 I already knew that he was saying that he has a 35 year relationship.
00:31 I will go. Obviously, I will take permission from him and separate from him.
00:36 Have you separated?
00:37 When he comes back, he will himself talk about it.
00:40 I think it will be a little earlier.
00:43 What he said while leaving, he said two important things in my opinion, in the public domain.
00:51 When a generational transition is coming, it is better to separate from the old people.
00:58 So this is the danger.
01:00 I don't know.
01:02 You can also say that the free election is not for the party.
01:05 I will wait for him to come back and then talk to him.
01:08 And then it will be fun to talk after that.
01:11 Let's see what happens.
01:13 Mr. Ajaz-ul-Haq, where is our politics taking us now?
01:17 Are we going to another closed lane?
01:20 Will we take another path after which another series of protests will begin?
01:25 We don't believe in elections.
01:27 People's Party has started a light music.
01:31 Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf is not getting a chance to speak.
01:33 When he comes out, he will say that we were not allowed to fight the election.
01:36 We were an acceptable party.
01:38 Are we going to solve our political problems or are we moving towards increasing them?
01:44 In the name of God, the most merciful, the most compassionate.
01:49 Mr. Kashir, we are in a closed lane in the current situation.
01:54 There is light at the end of the tunnel.
01:58 I can't see any light at the end of the tunnel.
02:01 Because there is so much polarization.
02:04 Everyone is struggling for their own benefit.
02:09 No one is struggling for Pakistan.
02:12 And just saying sorry doesn't make anyone forgiven.
02:16 You have to say sorry from your heart.
02:18 And you have to move forward with a big heart.
02:22 And you have to accept the ground realities.
02:25 In the current situation, first of all, it's been 35 years in politics.
02:31 I have fought many elections.
02:33 I have seen many things in Pakistan.
02:35 I have seen the IJI being formed.
02:37 I have seen many things.
02:39 I have seen martial law being imposed.
02:41 When you saw the PDM, did you see anything like the IJI?
02:45 I didn't see anything in the PDM.
02:50 In the IJI, there was a view, there were rightist groups.
02:56 In the politics of the 80s and 90s, people followed a view.
03:03 Whether it was good or bad, I don't talk about it.
03:06 Now that view is over in Pakistani politics.
03:09 Now it's only about benefits.
03:11 Now you don't see who you are sitting with.
03:14 You don't see who sits with you.
03:16 You see what he was saying to me yesterday,
03:18 and how he is hugging me today.
03:21 He was dragging me on the streets yesterday.
03:23 He was licking my stomach.
03:25 Today he is hugging me.
03:26 He is sitting with me.
03:27 At that time, they don't understand this.
03:29 Because everyone's benefits are the same.
03:33 And when the issues are over, they start holding each other's neck.
03:42 And I regret that we should talk when a person is in power or in his position.
03:52 Today, those groups who...
03:55 I know that I said some things that became a trend.
04:01 At that time, you meet secretly and hold each other's legs.
04:05 Today you met in the car.
04:07 I'm talking about the car.
04:10 And today you are holding each other's legs.
04:12 And today you are trying to hold each other's neck.
04:15 He left his neck.
04:17 This is politics.
04:19 He left his neck.
04:21 What did you say?
04:22 He left his neck.
04:23 He is stuck.
04:25 Yes, he left his neck.
04:27 Because now he has received the message that either hold each other's neck or come to Pakistan.
04:32 So, we can do one thing at a time.
04:34 Now he is ready to come back and spread all kinds of papads.
04:38 But later we will know how the issues will continue.
04:42 And I will tell you one more thing.
04:44 If this is with a push or a forced election...
04:48 The situation is that from the economy, law and order, earthquake, floods, everything...
04:59 It feels bad to say that we have handed everything over to the army.
05:04 So, what is the need of politicians?
05:06 These people have started asking.
05:08 What is the need of you when they have to do all the work?
05:11 They have to control the dollar.
05:13 They have to bring money from outside.
05:15 And not just today, when they had a 16-month government, no one asked them.
05:20 At that time, General Bajwa had to intervene.
05:23 And now General Asim Muneer has to intervene.
05:26 So, if elections are held in this situation, I don't think I am seeing the country going anywhere.
05:32 It seems that the way these governments are trying...
05:37 Sir, what do you mean?
05:38 Should there be no elections or elections should not be held in such an environment?
05:43 Elections should definitely be held.
05:45 I am not saying that there should not be elections.
05:47 There should be democracy.
05:48 But there should be a charter.
05:50 There should be a charter of Pakistan.
05:52 There should be some lines drawn.
05:54 There should be some kind of a map on which we can sit and say that we have to go in this way.
05:59 Now, it is not possible that one group will put a banner and tell the other group to come and make them in power.
06:07 People will not accept this.
06:09 Sir, political parties are accepting this.
06:11 The real problem is that when political parties in our country put a banner and say that Saddam will put a ban on us,
06:18 they will be punished and they will be jailed.
06:21 So, they are happy with this.
06:23 Sir, they have got a small plus.
06:28 In the case of Mian Sahib, there was an arrest and some seats were broken.
06:33 Here, they are saying that we should not let anyone fight in the elections.
06:36 People disappear in Pakistan.
06:38 Sir, your friend Sheikh Rashid Sahib has also disappeared.
06:41 I do not comment on that because those cases are in the courts.
06:45 They are not in the closed courts, nor in the jails.
06:48 I am saying that.
06:52 But I will give you a prediction that in the current situation,
06:56 whoever comes to the Jamaat, they cannot run the country.