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2024 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2023 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack: Old School Muscle or Modern Performance?
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9/15/2023
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00:00
(engine revving)
00:02
Hi there.
00:03
Do we have a fun comparison test for you today?
00:06
(engine revving)
00:08
That is the all new 2024 Ford Mustang GT.
00:23
Hats off to Ford because in the age of electrification,
00:27
they're still releasing an all new vehicle
00:30
that has a high revving V8, a manual transmission,
00:33
and rear wheel drive.
00:34
All the things that enthusiasts crave.
00:37
And because it's a 2024 model year car,
00:40
that means you'll be able to buy it new
00:42
through at least 2032.
00:45
On the other hand, this is the Dodge Challenger Shakedown.
00:50
It's the end of the line for the Challenger,
00:52
that makes some sense.
00:53
The design's over a decade old, so is the engine,
00:56
so is the transmission,
00:58
but the mentality behind this thing
01:00
goes all the way back to the 1960s.
01:03
This is the last pure muscle car on sale today.
01:08
The question becomes,
01:09
which one of these two all American icons should you buy?
01:13
Let's find out.
01:15
(upbeat music)
01:17
In a minute, we're gonna find out
01:20
if the new Mustang is mechanically any better
01:22
than the old Mustang.
01:24
But in terms of design, I can tell you,
01:26
it's a step backwards.
01:27
In fact, it's a step backwards and a step sideways.
01:31
Say whatever else you want about Mustangs,
01:33
they've always looked cool.
01:35
And this one doesn't.
01:37
This grill, that looks like a rejected Volvo design.
01:40
And then when they realized it,
01:42
they quickly struggled to put two big nostrils
01:45
on the front end.
01:46
And that looks like a Ram pickup truck.
01:48
I don't get it.
01:50
Headlights, Mustangs have big eyes, big round eyes.
01:53
And this one, they're squished.
01:55
And there's three bulbs in them.
01:58
Three bulbs, that's like a Citroen SM
02:00
or those aliens in the vending machine in "Toy Story."
02:04
You look at the side, hey, it looks a lot better.
02:06
But it's pretty easy to make a two-door coupe look good,
02:10
especially a rear drive one.
02:11
However, from the B pillar back,
02:13
this screams Chevy Camaro.
02:16
It looks just like the sixth gen Camaro,
02:19
but it's got a Ford badge.
02:20
Why?
02:22
Out back, it's a bit better.
02:23
You know, the taillights, graphically,
02:24
it looks like a Mustang, cool.
02:25
But then it's got that weird boomerang indent.
02:28
It's like half a cam back on the trunk lid.
02:30
Strange.
02:31
I mean, the wing's cool.
02:32
I like the tailpipes.
02:33
I like the diffuser.
02:35
But you know, overall, I just really feel this design
02:39
is a missed opportunity for Ford.
02:40
As for the design of the Dodge Challenger,
02:45
I mean, it rocks.
02:47
Look, when you have that long
02:49
to play with the design of a car,
02:51
you can make it look cooler and cooler and cooler.
02:53
And this final iteration, the Shakedown Challenger,
02:57
I mean, it's one of the best looking ones yet.
02:59
It's got the shaker hood.
03:01
That's that big air intake sticking up
03:02
out of the center of the hood.
03:04
It's got the cool stripes.
03:05
Admittedly, a little cheese ball there
03:07
on top of the paint, but whatever.
03:09
Hood pins, who doesn't love hood pins?
03:12
Cooler than the hood pins are the air intakes
03:15
in the headlights, just like the Hellcat.
03:18
Plus, this is a wide body.
03:19
Plus, look at those wheels.
03:21
I mean, they are gorgeous.
03:23
So yeah, the Dodge Challenger is one
03:26
of the best retro mod designs I've ever seen.
03:29
Hat tip to Ralph Gilles and his team.
03:32
It's just killer.
03:33
I mean, look at this thing.
03:34
It's sinister, it's imposing.
03:36
It's everything you want a muscle car to look like.
03:40
Just cool.
03:40
All right, I'm driving the new Mustang GT.
03:48
As far as the interior goes, I don't like the seats.
03:51
You can get Recaros.
03:53
I haven't sat in them, but they have to be better than these.
03:57
One of the things that people made a big deal about
03:59
when they announced the new Mustang is,
04:01
because it's got this huge curved screen,
04:03
you can do all kinds of different digital gauges,
04:06
including Fox Body Mustang gauges.
04:09
That said, while they're kind of cool,
04:11
the actual real gauges on the Challenger,
04:13
I would argue, are cooler.
04:16
Back to not cool, this handbrake.
04:18
I'm sorry, it's not a real handbrake.
04:20
It's an electric parking brake that is fashioned
04:23
to look like a handbrake.
04:24
Eh on that.
04:26
Look, the Mustang is a nice, modern, luxurious interior.
04:30
Some people will scream about the giant screen.
04:33
I happen to like it.
04:34
Talking about the interior
04:40
of the Dodge Challenger Shakedown here,
04:43
let me tell you, I had a Hellcat Charger in 2016 for a year.
04:48
This interior, identical.
04:51
Nothing has changed.
04:53
And you know, it's not that high quality.
04:55
I mean, the carbon fiber, fake.
04:58
The leather, suspect.
05:00
The screen, small, especially by today's standards.
05:04
And yet, it's just so great in this car.
05:07
I love it.
05:08
It just, I feel at home.
05:09
And part of that is I'm sitting on a Lazy Boy.
05:12
No, really, these are probably the largest,
05:14
most comfortable seats in the automotive kingdom.
05:18
I could complain about certain things,
05:20
but who's gonna listen?
05:22
As far as actually driving the Mustang goes,
05:35
it's a confused car.
05:37
It's not sure what it wants to be.
05:39
Am I a muscle car?
05:40
Am I a sports car?
05:41
So, like, it's a sports car that handles really well
05:46
with completely numb steering.
05:48
It's a muscle car that has an insanely long third gear.
05:52
I'm still in third, I'm still in third, I'm still in third.
05:55
You'll never get to fourth on a racetrack.
05:57
So, in other words, it has no torque.
05:58
It's not great as a track car.
06:00
So, I don't know.
06:01
You know, it sounds awesome.
06:03
It doesn't go that quick.
06:05
I should also mention the brakes
06:07
on the new Mustang are fantastic.
06:10
Hats off to Ford for giving the car the stopping power
06:14
it has always desired.
06:18
It has always yearned for.
06:19
I've yearned for, we've all yearned for.
06:21
It's just, you know, are you a luxury coupe?
06:23
Are you a GT?
06:24
Are you a sports car?
06:26
No one's sure.
06:27
Least of all, the Mustang itself.
06:29
As for performance, you know,
06:34
and the question isn't why does this thing understeer
06:38
or why aren't the brakes more powerful?
06:40
No, the question is, after all these years,
06:44
why are we still taking challengers on racetracks?
06:46
No, really, I went on the launch of this thing in 2010
06:51
at Sears Point and it made no sense then.
06:54
And now at the end of 2023, it still makes no sense.
06:59
But, get this thing pointed straight.
07:03
You open up that big fat V8
07:05
and you let the automatic transmission do what it's good at
07:09
and that's upshifting.
07:10
And man, do you have a car that knows exactly what it is
07:15
and exactly what it's supposed to be doing?
07:17
Just, that's what I like about it so much
07:21
is there's no confusion.
07:22
It's not trying to have one foot in two different worlds.
07:26
It's just a big, dumb muscle car.
07:28
And there's nothing wrong with that.
07:30
Oh, has any car ever been more at home
07:37
going in a straight line?
07:39
I don't think so.
07:41
I gotta admit, I'm having a hard time
07:44
picking a winner between these two.
07:47
Why?
07:48
They're just both fantastic.
07:49
I mean, they're loud, they're silly, they're juvenile,
07:52
they're fun, they make you smile.
07:53
It's what we want cars to be.
07:56
And I think we're running into a
07:58
heart versus mind type situation.
08:01
Because intellectually, Ford has built the better car.
08:05
In every way you can measure a vehicle,
08:07
the Mustang is better, including miles per gallon,
08:10
not that anyone buying these two cares, but it is true.
08:15
On the other hand, the heart wants what the heart wants.
08:18
And man, that Challenger is just so desirable.
08:22
If it were my money, I would go with the Dodge.
08:26
It's not my money we're talking about, it's your money.
08:29
And I have to advise you to do the right thing,
08:32
to buy the better car, and that's why
08:34
the winner of this Motor Trend Comparison Test
08:37
is the 2024 Ford Mustang GT.
08:44
But man, I like that Challenger.
08:48
(engine revving)
08:51
(whooshing)
08:53
[BLANK_AUDIO]
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