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11/09/2023
Susanna Sealy returns to present this week's WSL show as we deep dive into the Lionesses' debut UEFA Nation's League campaign. Will we see a return for Beth Mead - or has the games against Scotland and Netherlands come to soon?
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Welcome back to this Women's Youth League show where we are now discussing England's
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chances in the Nations League.
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So their first picture they've got in the tournament is on the 22nd of September where
00:15
they are taking on Scotland, which is actually quite a nice mirroring given that the men's
00:20
team are playing each other tomorrow.
00:23
Anyway, that's enough of the men for now.
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So obviously the squad hasn't been announced yet.
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We are expecting that to come next week.
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We know that Beth England is injured and we've seen Beth Mead on the bench for Arsenal.
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Obviously she has yet to actually come on to the pitch.
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But Graham, who are you expecting to be named in that squad next week?
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I think we might see it this week potentially, but you might be right in saying that.
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I mean, what are we on today?
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It's the 11th of September at the time of speaking, so potentially, hopefully this week
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I would imagine.
01:01
I think it's a really interesting one because we touched on the first part of the show about
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the fact that the World Cup only ended like three weeks ago and the England team are already
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kind of back within, it'll be five weeks, I think, five or six weeks by the time the
01:15
game comes along.
01:16
And there's a lot of players again that won't have a rest.
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I think you've got Alessio has obviously started a season.
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You've got the likes of Georgia Stanway, I think, played yesterday for Bayern Munich
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in a competitive game.
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I believe it was, I could be wrong with this.
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I don't really give up with the Bundesliga as much as I should compare to England, but
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I believe it was like their charity shield or community shield is now called.
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You've got other players that are kind of still maybe not completely fresh coming off
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the back of the World Cup because they haven't had too long off.
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So it'll be interesting to see who comes in, but I think we'll see the bulk of players
01:53
that were at the World Cup come into the squad.
01:55
I think it'll be interesting to see how England line up because we pretty much went with that
01:59
back three, didn't we, during the World Cup after, I think it was the second or third
02:04
game, a third game against China.
02:06
We went at that back three and you know what, once we went at that back three, it kind of
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stuck up until the second half of the final when we opted back to a four.
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So it'll be quite interesting to see what happens in terms of what the formation is
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going to be like.
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I think the squad itself, I think a lot of the team picks itself.
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Mary Earps, she's going to play.
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She's going to be your goalkeeper.
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You've got the likes of Lucy Bronze will play.
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She's still our best right back.
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Millie Bright's obviously fully fit.
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Alex Greenwood had a tremendous tournament.
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Jess Carter was incredible during the tournament.
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Kiera Walsh, thankfully, is completely fit.
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Stanway's obviously going to play every game.
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So I think if you see additions to the squad, you're going to be getting additions that
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are maybe squad additions that wouldn't get in at the start of the XI originally.
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But it's interesting you touched on Beth Mead because I think, and I don't really know fully
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100% because I wasn't part of the press conference, but I read some quotes from Jonas saying that
03:07
she was in that squad to kind of maybe get a bit of a feel back for being part of the
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squad and stuff like that.
03:12
But look, if you're on the bench, that means you've got an ability to be fit.
03:15
Whether you think she's going to come off 10 minutes, 20 minutes, or she's not going
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to come on at all, there's a potential that she is fit enough to be on the bench at the
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end of the day, which means she's a lot closer to a return.
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And I think there'll be people who disagree, but if you're going to be picking England's
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top three players over the past two, three years, Beth Mead's in there.
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Massive part of why England won the Euros, huge part, probably the most important part,
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hence why she won't play with the tournament.
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And she's a big miss when she's not there, whether we like it or not.
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Have we found ways to adapt without her?
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Yeah, we got a World Cup final without Beth Mead, but could we have won that World Cup
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final with Beth Mead?
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You never really know, but I think...
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I think it's best not to go into that.
03:54
No, it's not, is it?
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I'm going to start crying again.
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Yeah, I know.
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But you know, Beth Mead's a tremendous player, a world-class player.
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Second in the Ballon d'Or last year, UEFA Player of the Year, runner-up to Alexia Ptahies,
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which is not a bad accolade to have.
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She's had that unfortunate injury.
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It's going to take her time to come back and get fit.
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Is it too soon for her to be back in the England squad?
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Maybe.
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But it might not be a problem to put her within the squad and get the feel back for being
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part of the squad again and just say, look, you're probably not going to play, but come
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back with the squad because you're obviously a huge part of this squad.
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When you're fully fit, you're probably in the starting XI.
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Come back in and get a feel of it again because you've been away for the best part of a year.
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So I actually think we will see Beth Mead in that squad.
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I think it'll be good.
04:40
I don't know if we'll see her get any minutes because I think Scotland is a really competitive
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game and it's a rivalry.
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We both live in Scotland.
04:48
We know what the rivalry is like.
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England fan, I've been getting pellets for the men and the women for the last few weeks.
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So hopefully I don't have any text messages from any of my male football supporters tomorrow
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or the following week.
05:02
I think it's great that there's been over 40,000 tickets sold and there's no way in
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for Scotland fans.
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I think that's really exciting.
05:09
With Beth England being out, does it give an opportunity to another striker?
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Because I think as much as you could bring Beth Mead in, do I class her as...
05:18
For me, she's a striker, but she's that right-hand side wing position, that number seven position
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that we've seen Lauren James occupy and Chloe Kelly occupy.
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So maybe adding an additional body in there, but then you've got Alessia Russo as your
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forward and then we pretended for a little bit that Rachel Daly was a forward.
05:33
She's very much still a forward, but apparently she's a left wing back now or left back.
05:37
So for me, I think Rachel Daly...
05:39
No, it's a shame that didn't last long enough.
05:41
She's just destined to be there, isn't she?
05:43
I think whether we like it or not, she's destined to be there.
05:46
So you look outside of that, I think one that's really interesting is that Ebony Salmond obviously
05:52
has moved to Aston Villa two, three days ago.
05:55
I think the time is speaking at the weekend.
05:56
So that kind of came out of nowhere.
05:58
So there's a chance now for Ebony Salmond to potentially stake a claim for getting part
06:02
of the squad.
06:03
She's narrowly missed out on getting in the squad for the last couple of tournaments.
06:08
She's now back in England after being over in the States.
06:12
She's obviously only still 22.
06:14
There's tons of room for her to grow.
06:17
And I think when you look elsewhere at the other strikers within the squad, people that
06:20
can play up front, you've got your Katie Robinson's and your Nikita Paris.
06:23
They're more of that kind of right wing position.
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You just park it like your left wing, your right wing.
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So I think out and out centre forwards, you're looking at maybe Ebony Salmond could maybe
06:32
come in and stake a claim.
06:34
It's Nations League, so it's competitive.
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It's Scotland, so it's definitely competitive.
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And Holland is a tough game as well.
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I know we beat them 5-1 prior to the Euros, but Holland are a very good team.
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Really, really good team full of really good players, some world class players.
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I think they're both really competitive games and it gives these players like maybe Ebony
06:49
Salmond the chance to come in and say, "Hey, look, I can be part of the squad moving forward."
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Beth England I think has got a hip injury.
06:56
She's having a hip operation.
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So that doesn't sound to me like it's a short term knock.
07:00
I hope it is because I love Beth England, big fan, but it offers an opportunity for
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her.
07:05
But one player that I really, really want to see get a chance and someone that I think
07:08
I've spoke about till, you know, Kingdom Come.
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I wonder who it is.
07:14
I wonder.
07:15
May Letizia I would like to see.
07:19
I was kind of hoping I was going to shock you there, but then I realised I'm not.
07:21
But for me, May has been tremendous for the past year.
07:25
For me, she's the future of England's defence.
07:27
I think it's difficult to place her ahead of Jess Carter, Millie Bright or Alex Greenwood
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at the moment.
07:34
If we're playing that back three, if we're playing a back four, it's even more difficult
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for her to get in.
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But I think she's excellent.
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I think she's superb.
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I think she deserves a chance.
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I think she should have went to the World Cup.
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I still believe that.
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And please put her back in the squad, Serena.
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However, if you are listening, Serena, I never, never, ever distrust anything you do.
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You potentially may walk on water.
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So just you back yourself.
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Don't listen to me.
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Well, I'm sure we're going to be talking about it a lot more close to the time.
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But for fans who are more WSL focused rather than the Scottish Women's Premier League focus,
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who would you be saying to look out for in that Scotland squad?
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Who are you expecting to turn up for Scotland?
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I think when you look at Scotland, they've got a lot stronger over the years.
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Their midfield is arguably world class.
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Caroline Weah, how she's not been on the Ballon d'Or nomination, we discussed on last week's
08:30
show, that baffles me.
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Caroline Weah is affectionately known by her teammates as 'Caca'.
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I did an interview with her, I want to say two years ago now.
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And one of her former teammates said, asked her about the nickname.
08:46
I asked her about it.
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She had laughed.
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And it's because she now A plays for Real Madrid, which is weird.
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But she used to play in a similar vein to Caca.
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And anyone who's old enough to have seen Caca, which unfortunately I am one, as I said, it
08:57
was my birthday, I'm 37 last week.
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He's pretty good.
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And by pretty good, I mean, like, outstandingly good.
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And Caroline Weah being named after him or nicknamed after him is not a great surprise
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because really, really good player and a very, very similar style.
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And it's had an amazing season for Real Madrid and just keeps kind of like going up and up
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and up.
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But then you've got Aaron Cosbert, of course, Aaron Cosbert.
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If you don't know who Aaron Cosbert is and you don't watch WSL and you're not watching
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close enough because Aaron Cosbert's amazing.
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But outside of that, you've got Sam Kerr in the middle as well.
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Now Sam Kerr is, she'll be well known to Glasgow City fans, we've done an awful lot with Glasgow
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City.
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And most importantly, we're really well known to Rangers fans where she's been for the past
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couple of years and was part of their Invincible team that won their first Scottish Premier
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League title.
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She's gradually became that sort of number six role over the past few years for Scotland.
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I've got to be honest, Glasgow City played Rangers last season, a game when we unfortunately
09:52
lost 2-1.
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But Sam Kerr looked, she looked miles ahead of the best player on the pitch that night
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without standing.
09:59
And she's obviously got her move to Bayern Munich this summer.
10:03
And to go from the Scottish Premier League to a team with Stanway, a team with Peniela
10:09
Harder, Magdalena Eriksen, that's in there.
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And there's many other names I could mention, shows her quality as well.
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And that's your midfield for Scotland.
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But there's also some really good young talents like Jenna Clark, who was at Glasgow City
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beforehand.
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I think I've talked her up an awful lot.
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I love Jenna Clark, both on a personal level and as a player.
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But she's now at Liverpool.
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She's a fantastic defender and you've got a lot of experience alongside in terms of
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like Rachel Corsi, Sophie Howard, who's been at Leicester for the past few years, has been
10:34
excellent as well.
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Scotland's a really tough test.
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It's a really tough test.
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But one, if England play to the level they can, we should get beyond that.
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Scotland have a lot of good young talent like Sam Kerr, Lauren Davidson, Erin Cuspin, still
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very young, world-class talent like Caroline Weir.
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Anyone who thinks that's going to be an easy game is absolutely out of their minds.
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Well, yeah, as I say, we've still got a couple of weeks, so I'm sure we'll be discussing
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that in detail once the squads are announced.
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That's it for today.
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