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00:00 the senior member of the people's party, the member of the central executive committee, Mr. Chaudhary Ittizaad Hassan. He is with us. Choudhary As-salamu alaikum.
00:07 As-salamu alaikum.
00:09 I said this because in the last few days, I don't know if it was by chance or not, I don't know, in fact I won't say it was by chance,
00:17 because there are news that a notice has been sent. The basic membership, I saw this interview today in the archives,
00:23 so it was actually on 21st June or July, that the basic membership of Mr. Chaudhary Ittizaad Hassan was announced.
00:30 That's why everyone was surprised when you reached there in the address of the Central Executive Committee.
00:34 So anyway, you never received any such notice, right? Am I right?
00:38 No, no, no, I never received it.
00:40 I have only done this in meetings almost every month.
00:46 But that participation was through my Zoom.
00:53 So I couldn't see it on Zoom, so people said it wouldn't have come.
00:58 We have made a hybrid arrangement through Zoom.
01:03 The sponsors who have reached there should also sit and those who are on Zoom should also be included in the message.
01:11 So during this time, you never received any notice of any kind, right?
01:17 No, no, no.
01:19 And was there any issue in this CC?
01:25 Because you were going to the CC permanently, you just went physically this time,
01:29 otherwise you were going to Zoom, so you didn't have any such discussion.
01:32 Yes, of course.
01:34 So all this discussion that started was only to the extent of the media,
01:37 and then you were like, "Oh, Mr. Ittida is here, this means something new is going to happen."
01:41 I am a politician from Lahore.
01:44 So in everyone's own circle, whether it is the Prime Minister or the President,
01:51 in their own circle, and some people from the same circle also go against it.
01:56 There is opposition. And many of the party members don't like me.
02:08 So what is their right to have their own opinion?
02:12 And why should they oppose me?
02:14 Right.
02:15 And this is not the first time, I remember, a few years ago,
02:19 there was a market for such rumours, then it was December 27, God forbid, I was there myself.
02:23 Not only did you come there, but if I remember correctly,
02:27 Mr. Zardari had a speech after him, or just before him.
02:30 It was such an atmosphere that the whole feeling was over,
02:34 that you have some differences with Mr. Ittida.
02:37 Mr. Zardari was addressing his wife's chair when I arrived.
02:49 When I came to the chair, his speech had started and was going on.
02:55 So he saw me and said, "I will finish it, you can go."
03:00 Okay, Mr. Chaudhary, this is a different matter.
03:03 But as a collective, you are a historian, you have written books on history,
03:08 you have read a lot, obviously.
03:10 When all this history will be written, I am talking about this era.
03:15 Do you think the People's Party is in the right direction of history?
03:20 No.
03:21 The People's Party is in the right direction in this regard.
03:25 The People's Party is against the Jamaat-e-Jammu-l-Ayyat,
03:31 which is against bringing religion into politics,
03:38 which is against promoting religion in politics,
03:45 which is against this.
03:47 This is a progressive party, it is on the right side of it.
03:56 This is a liberal progressive party in terms of ideology and ideology.
03:59 In these circumstances, a government that has gone, says that it has been overthrown.
04:09 If that is true, then the People's Party is also among those who have been overthrown,
04:12 and it has been overthrown in a non-linear way.
04:14 They say that the non-national forces and local establishments,
04:19 I am saying in this current environment, that is standing in the right direction or not?
04:23 Yes, the overall People's Party is right.
04:29 The character of the People's Party is like this.
04:32 It does not have a monarchy.
04:34 It has a lot of democracy.
04:40 I have also been to the party after a discussion.
04:44 People know it.
04:46 The character of the People's Party is like this.
04:55 Sir, if I quote a few incidents,
04:58 then you tell me, the democratic norms that we used to refer to,
05:01 or used to hear about the People's Party, are they going with it?
05:04 For example, there is an election of the mayor in Karachi.
05:06 The number game is clear that there are fewer people of the People's Party,
05:08 and there are more opponents.
05:09 But 32 people of the opponent do not come that day.
05:12 And you know why they don't come.
05:14 This is just one example.
05:16 I can quote a few other examples as well.
05:18 The People's Party is a party that discusses democratic norms.
05:24 Do these things go with its character?
05:27 Look, if someone does research on this,
05:32 and if they are not able to do it,
05:35 they can say that we have stopped the protest,
05:38 and the police are standing outside our house.
05:41 They can say something.
05:44 It is not that you used to come, but there was no one to stop you.
05:49 So, this should happen.
05:52 Without this, how can you think?
05:57 You see, the People's Party has ruled three times.
06:03 The second time was in DG Shaheed.
06:06 The third time was in G. S. Gurdal Jalani.
06:10 And Raja Parveer Dashain was in fact President Gurdal.
06:15 From the presidential office, he was also the head of the People's Party.
06:23 Then after, DG, and the fourth chairman, Binabal, came of age.
06:29 So, in these three governments, you can say that we have kept a political prisoner.
06:39 I was the interior minister.
06:42 I used to invite people, and if someone said enough, I would say,
06:46 "I will give you the keys to every jail in Pakistan."
06:51 You go and open a jail, and then come back.
06:55 So, I have kept a political prisoner.
06:59 And...
07:00 The government of the People's Party in Sindh, which was not there until a few days ago,
07:04 there was a crackdown against Tehreek-e-Insaab,
07:08 for the past few months.
07:10 And the government was of the People's Party.
07:13 The government of the People's Party is not the People's Party.
07:16 No, I am talking about a few days ago.
07:19 The way the opposition is being held by the police,
07:25 and the way it is being tortured,
07:27 that is not a bad thing.
07:31 It is not our style.
07:39 It is not according to our style.
07:42 And the way they have brought it,
07:45 the Rana Sanaullah formula,
07:49 that there is a bail in one case,
07:51 and they come out of jail,
07:53 and they don't catch the other prisoner.
07:57 They get him bailed out again, and after three days, they catch him again.
08:00 And after four days, they get him bailed out again,
08:03 and they catch him again.
08:05 If this is the Rana Sanaullah formula,
08:07 then at least they would have made him unreliable,
08:09 if not for the opposition, the People's Party supported it.
08:12 I am a Muslim.
08:15 I am a Muslim.
08:17 This is not something to be happy about,
08:21 or something to be proud of.
08:24 This is a disgrace to the country.
08:27 The king said that the court releases him,
08:31 and they catch him.
08:33 The court releases him again, and they catch him again.
08:36 The court releases him again, and they catch him again.
08:39 Sir, 17 times in one case.