Vivek Ramaswamy & Tucker Carlson- We Can Handle the TRUTH.
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00:00 vaccines taxes to attack you over this. You know, what's
00:04 interesting is, I think that there's a bipartisan consensus
00:08 in this country right now, that we the people, we can't handle
00:13 the truth. It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the
00:16 movie, right? You can't handle the truth. You need me on that
00:18 wall. My view, my basic view in this campaign is no, we don't
00:22 need you on that wall. And yes, we can handle the truth. COVID
00:26 19. What was the origin? What did we know about the vaccines
00:29 before we mandated them? What do we know about Hunter Biden's
00:32 dealings before we systematically suppressed that
00:34 story? What do we know about the truth of what happened on
00:37 January 6? What do we know about that Nashville shooter
00:40 manifesto, the transgender individual who shot up a bunch
00:42 of people in a Christian school? That's why I went to Nashville
00:45 not that long ago, because Bill Lee, a Republican governor of
00:48 Tennessee, now wants to pass a red flag law in Tennessee
00:51 without releasing that manifesto. The whole point is
00:53 the public can't handle the truth. And so I had offline
00:57 discussions. I mean, we're talking with, you know, big
00:59 donors in the Republican Party, big folks in media, executives
01:02 and otherwise, who said, Hey, listen, okay, even if what
01:05 you're saying is true, this is not helping you. So why is that
01:08 the first question that should go through my mind? Right? I
01:11 mean, personally, I think the way I'm running this campaign
01:15 is I'm not thinking about what's helping me or not before I say
01:17 it. So far, at least that actually that approach does seem
01:20 to be helping me. Yeah, we're doing all right. But even if I
01:23 were, I'd rather lose some election, than to play some
01:28 political snakes and ladders of what we're supposed to say. And
01:32 I think that that's really one of the questions at issue today
01:36 as it was in 1776. Do we believe that the public can be trusted
01:41 with the truth, whatever the truth is, just give me the hard
01:44 truth. And I have a friend of mine, her father died recently,
01:48 she talked about actually her experience of her father having
01:50 heart attacks, even when she was a kid, he went on to live as far
01:53 as he did. But she said the one thing she just wanted from the
01:56 doctors from her dad, etc. is, you know, she's 12 years old. At
02:01 the time, I can handle the truth. Just just tell me like,
02:04 is my dad gonna die? Is my dad likely to die before he goes in
02:06 for the next procedure? Don't just tell me he's gonna live
02:09 because you think that's what I need to hear. Just tell me the
02:12 truth. And I can handle the truth. I think most of us are
02:14 this way. I think we as free human beings. Badly, what makes
02:20 us human beings and not animals is the belief that we can
02:23 believe in something bigger than ourselves. And that we can
02:25 handle the truth from those who are in power. And I think that's
02:28 the moment we live in today was the moment of the American
02:30 Revolution that we the people can be trusted. And I think we
02:33 now live in a moment where the government and not just the
02:36 government, but a broader establishment in our country
02:38 believes that citizens of this nation cannot be trusted with
02:43 the truth.
02:43 So when you describe the way that people who run the country
02:45 feel about voters are describing the way parents treat small
02:48 children.
02:48 That's right. That's right. I think that that's actually worth
02:51 understanding because there's one school of thought that says
02:54 the government and the people in charge are fundamentally hostile
02:57 to the people. If only were so easy. Actually, I think the
03:02 reality of what's going on is far more dangerous, where the
03:06 people who are in charge have actually what they think of as a
03:09 benevolent view of the people that we're doing what's actually
03:12 right for you for me for the populace at large. And then if
03:17 you look at this throughout history, Tucker, for most of
03:20 human history, that's how it's been done. For most of human
03:23 history before 1776. In the old world, the vision was the people
03:27 cannot be trusted to sort out their own differences. One
03:31 person one vote. That's that's such a laughable idea. It has to
03:34 be church leaders and labor leaders and business leaders that
03:38 decide in the back of palace halls, what's right for the rest
03:42 of society at large. And then we had this weird departure in 1776
03:46 that's in no, actually, we the people can be trusted in a
03:51 system where every person's voice and vote counts equally
03:54 with free speech and open debate in the public square, whatever
03:57 it is, sometimes we might get it wrong. Sometimes we get it
03:59 right. But whatever it is, that's the way we do things in
04:02 this new thing we call the United States of America. But
04:06 then every once in a while, and we're in one of those moments
04:07 that ugly monster rears its head again, that says no, no, no, no,
04:10 the people can't be trusted. It has to be now in the back of
04:13 palace halls, in the back of three letter government
04:15 agencies in Washington, DC, or the back of Black Rocks Corner
04:19 office on Park Avenue in Manhattan, wherever it is. It's
04:22 that the enlightened have to make sure that the public is
04:25 protected from the truth, just like a parent protects a child.
04:28 And I think it's that parental instinct. It's not the
04:31 kidnappers instinct, right? It's not the guy who wants to, you
04:34 know, kidnap and kill the child. No, it's actually almost what
04:37 they think of as being the instinct of a parent who's doing
04:41 for you, what's better for you than you know, for yourself. And
04:45 I think that's what gives it actual staying power, because
04:48 it's not what somebody thinks of as evil, who's committing evil.
04:51 They think of it as actually a moral obligation to the public,
04:54 which explains the bipartisan nature of when somebody speaks
04:57 the truth about what really happened on 9/11. No, hush, keep
05:00 that under the rug. Because Republican or Democrat, we know
05:03 that the people can't be trusted for that. It's not good for the
05:05 people.
05:06 The children are listening. Lower your voice.