Brutal Kristaps Porzingis Injury News and the Celtics Jimmy Butler Trade That Almost Happened

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Sam and Jack are back with the latest Boston Celtics talk. They discuss the new Kristaps Porzingis injury news, the Celtics-Jimmy Butler trade Danny Ainge almost made, and Jayson Tatum's comments on Jaylen Brown's extension. Plus, they talk about Patrick Beverley, Trae Young, Jamal Murray, and the best Rat List this show has ever seen. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How 'Bout Them Celtics! Podcast Twitter: @HowBoutThemCs Sam's Twitter: @SamLaFranceNBA Jack's Twitter: @JackSimoneNBA   TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - 2:48 Intro  2:48 - 15:26 Kristaps Porzingis injury update  15:26 - 25:54 Celtics-Jimmy Butler trade that almost happened  25:54 - 35:19 Celtics In-Season Tournament schedule/predictions  35:19 - 38:22 Jayson Tatum on Jaylen Brown extension  38:22 - 39:50 Marcus Smart in Grizzlies gear  39:50 - 48:25 Celtics questions email from RJ Johnson  48:25 - 51:15 PatBev on Trae Young  51:15 - 53:02 Jamal Murray not playing for Team Canada  53:02 - 01:04:40 Sam’s Reddit Post of the Day 01:04:40 - 01:36:36 The Rat List (Best Ever) 01:36:36 - 01:39:25 Outro #bostonceltics  #celtics #celticsnews #celticsrumors #celticstraderumors #celticspodcast #celticspod #nbapodcast #nba #bostoncelticsnews #howboutthemceltics #kristapsporzingis #kristapsporzingisinjury #jimmybutler #jimmybutlertrade #jimmybutlerceltics

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00:00:00 Now, how about them damn Celtics?

00:00:10 And we are back with another episode of How 'Bout Them Celtics Seminar here recording

00:00:14 on Wednesday, August 16th.

00:00:15 We got a lot to talk about today.

00:00:18 As crazy as that sounds, literally the middle of August.

00:00:21 This is the middle of the middle, like as we could possibly get maybe one day off if

00:00:24 you want to go to the 30th or excuse me, 15th because it's August 30 days or 31 days.

00:00:28 I have to sing the song every time.

00:00:30 Back to back, July, August.

00:00:32 Am I a child or do you also sing the song in your head?

00:00:36 I don't know the song.

00:00:38 It's 30 days has September, April, June and November.

00:00:41 After February is done, all the rest has 31.

00:00:43 Really?

00:00:44 August.

00:00:45 Yeah.

00:00:46 So August would be 31.

00:00:47 Anytime I hear like that phrasing, I oddly enough, this is a really like rabbit hole

00:00:52 thing.

00:00:54 But I think of one of the Batman games where Calendar Man is in a cell and he's just like

00:01:01 mumbling that to himself.

00:01:03 And it's actually really creepy.

00:01:04 Well, I'm sorry to evoke that memory of you so early into the vodcast.

00:01:10 We're off the rails a minute into the show, but I'm glad hopefully you guys stick around.

00:01:14 We got a lot for you today.

00:01:15 We have Celtics news.

00:01:16 We have a good Reddit post and Rattlers season be good.

00:01:19 So stick around.

00:01:20 Yes.

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00:01:32 And I know Sam feels the same that we appreciate the comments more than anything because it

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00:01:40 about Joey's spatula is mentioning that like, oh, somebody came to my food truck, so they

00:01:45 listen to the show.

00:01:46 It doesn't like quantify in my whatever you want, whatever adjective or verb or whatever.

00:01:50 It doesn't like register.

00:01:51 That's what I wanted.

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00:01:59 And that's just I think that's cool.

00:02:00 Like that's just it.

00:02:02 It's cool to think about.

00:02:03 Like we got a couple messages somewhere like, oh, you know, I don't know if they're worried

00:02:08 that something was going to change.

00:02:09 Nothing's going to change in terms of podcast.

00:02:12 The same episodes, the same daily uploads.

00:02:14 Everything is on our channel is going to be exactly the same.

00:02:16 We're just also posting a podcast daily.

00:02:19 Making it.

00:02:20 Yes, exactly.

00:02:21 We're also posting the podcast a day late over on the channel who have always best is

00:02:25 the two guys that just show up in the comments to fight each other.

00:02:28 Yeah, that's slowly become my favorite thing.

00:02:30 I can't lie to both.

00:02:31 The Peter Griffin and the chicken rivalry.

00:02:33 Yes, they did.

00:02:35 But they just like argue with each other back and forth for like 20 comments.

00:02:38 We're like, wow, a lot of interaction is just two guys fighting.

00:02:43 So shut up, guys.

00:02:44 Keep watching.

00:02:45 Yeah, we appreciate you both.

00:02:47 Thank you all for stopping by.

00:02:48 But let's get into the Celtics news we have today.

00:02:50 We'll start with Chris stops for Zingas because three, including this one, three of our last

00:02:56 four shows are going to be headlined by Chris stops for Zingas injury title.

00:03:00 And one the first one was Chris stops for Zingas is hurt.

00:03:04 The second one was psych Christophs for Zingas isn't hurt.

00:03:07 And this new one is OK, wait, he's actually hurt this time, guys.

00:03:10 I promise.

00:03:11 So yes, Chris does.

00:03:13 For Zingas is actually hurt.

00:03:14 He has plantar fasciitis.

00:03:18 The original port came from I can't find it.

00:03:21 It was just funny to me because it was basketball, Deutschland or something like that.

00:03:26 Rupert Fabian.

00:03:27 Yep.

00:03:28 He had it.

00:03:29 And everyone was like, oh, this reporting, then Latvia was like, no.

00:03:32 And everyone's like, oh, this guy's a liar.

00:03:34 It seems like, oh, wait, he was actually kind of right.

00:03:37 But for Zingas has plantar fasciitis.

00:03:40 He announced it on a tweet.

00:03:43 This is a tweet, Twitter translated tweet.

00:03:46 So it's the phrasing incorrect.

00:03:48 You were just getting what everybody else had.

00:03:50 It is difficult to be very responsible to myself and the supporters of the Latvia national

00:03:53 team.

00:03:54 But a decision has been made that it will not play in the World Cup.

00:03:56 President said a tweet after several weeks of recovery and an MRI examination, the plantar

00:04:00 fasciitis in my foot still prevents me from being on the field in full readiness.

00:04:04 This is a joint decision that has been made both by the medical coaching staff of the

00:04:07 national team as well as the Celtics team, with the advice and opinion that is now necessary

00:04:11 to continue the recovery process.

00:04:13 Such a decision is not easy to make.

00:04:14 But I promise that I will be there and support the team as much as I can.

00:04:17 And then the Celtics tweeted out.

00:04:20 Chris Stubbs, where Zingas has been diagnosed with plantar fasciitis in his right foot.

00:04:23 He will engage in a four to six week rehab program and is expected to be cleared for

00:04:27 the start of training camp.

00:04:29 So Chris Stubbs, for Zingas is actually hurt.

00:04:32 That is the update we have for you guys.

00:04:34 Let's talk about it.

00:04:35 That one guy in our comments that comes every time and is like, hey, he sucks and he's going

00:04:39 to be injury prone is looking real good right now.

00:04:42 The guys in the CLNS comments from the last Potter not looking good because the one guy

00:04:46 was like, Matt, he's like, you guys click baited saying Zingas was hurt.

00:04:50 Well, unfortunately, we were kind of right, even though it wasn't our report.

00:04:54 It was just we were just sharing the news that was out there.

00:04:59 But this isn't the best start to the Tingus Pingus era in Boston.

00:05:02 It's kind of frustrating because the whole hang up in the trade to get him here was the

00:05:10 Clippers being unsatisfied with Malcolm Brogdon's physicals.

00:05:15 Yeah.

00:05:16 And the Celtics took on a guy.

00:05:19 I can't imagine that this plantar fasciitis is a, Hey, I got this in July thing.

00:05:24 He was probably dealing with this before he got traded to the Celtics.

00:05:29 And yet they went through with the trade.

00:05:31 They gave up smart, who was a key contributor to the team last year.

00:05:35 Of course, what came out and was like, Hey, we said we had to change something.

00:05:39 So sorry.

00:05:40 But it's not really what you want when you have such a seismic shift in your roster and

00:05:46 you're bringing in a new pillar to build on.

00:05:49 And one of his pillars is fucked up.

00:05:51 It's not what you want in a foot injury for seven foot three guy not to be messed with.

00:05:56 Now I wrote about this for Celtics blog just as the news or, and I quickly did a Google.

00:06:01 I was like, all right, let's see.

00:06:02 Like I know players in the NBA deal with this.

00:06:05 Like it's a thing.

00:06:06 I was just curious, you know, is it a thing that's going to hinder you for your whole

00:06:09 career in plantar fasciitis?

00:06:12 As I put my stethoscope on is a lingering thing.

00:06:16 It's a chronic thing.

00:06:17 And I understand that people have to rest for it to go away.

00:06:21 But at the same time, when you Google like NBA players with plantar fasciitis, one of

00:06:26 the first things that comes up is like, Hey, Joel Embiid had plantar fasciitis last summer

00:06:32 and then he won an MVP.

00:06:33 So Celtics fans, you can expect Porzingis to win the MVP, but the team is going to lose

00:06:38 in the second round.

00:06:40 Yeah.

00:06:41 And for what it's worth, um, she gathers Alexander also dealt with it last season.

00:06:46 He's also not seven foot three.

00:06:48 He's also a seven foot three, but he also made all NBA first team.

00:06:50 I am just saying it is possible.

00:06:52 One Google with NBA players deal with plantar fasciitis comes up with Marcus, Camby, Jakim,

00:06:56 Noah, Paul Gasol, Joe Johnson, Ty Lawson, and Nene.

00:07:00 Not a terrible group.

00:07:01 They're all pretty good players.

00:07:03 Actually in recent years, it sounds like you have to get plantar fasciitis to be good.

00:07:08 That's where you take your leap.

00:07:09 Like Gilgis Alexander makes all NBA and bead wins his first MVP after getting bullied by

00:07:13 Yoke kitchen, the voters for two years in a row.

00:07:16 Yeah.

00:07:17 I mean, maybe this is it.

00:07:18 And this is the year that Porzingis plays all 82 games.

00:07:22 We'll spin it.

00:07:23 We'll spin it.

00:07:24 I, uh, I took a nap before the podcast.

00:07:26 I'm in a laughing mood.

00:07:27 And when Sam said, Ting is ping as I looked over the show sheet and Sam put the curse

00:07:30 stops news on our show sheet and Sam wrote, Ting is pink.

00:07:33 It's made a fucking glass dude.

00:07:36 And I just started dying laughing.

00:07:37 But I do think the interesting thing is important to note because I tweeted this out.

00:07:43 If you thought Chris stops for Zingas was going to be healthy for the full season, you're

00:07:47 delusional, right?

00:07:49 It was never going to happen.

00:07:50 And it sucks that the injuries, Celtic staff, by the way, the training that I've had beef

00:07:57 with for years.

00:07:58 Yeah.

00:07:59 They're the ones that's going to get Porzingis to be healthy, but no.

00:08:01 Okay.

00:08:02 Go back to you.

00:08:03 I think you wish that it didn't happen before the season even started, but at the same time,

00:08:08 maybe it's, it's better to happen now than to have him recovering four to six weeks in

00:08:11 the season.

00:08:12 My thing is, and I tweeted this, the Christophs Porzingis injury sucks, but expecting a full

00:08:16 healthy season is unrealistic.

00:08:18 He's dealt with injuries in the past as has Robert Williams and Al Horford's 37 years

00:08:22 old.

00:08:23 Like that trio of players are each going to miss a significant amount of games individually.

00:08:28 And I think setting a goal of let's hope they all play 60 games is probably fine.

00:08:35 Like if I told you by the season's end, Christophs Porzingis played 60 games, Rob played 60 games

00:08:39 and Al played 60 games.

00:08:40 What would you say?

00:08:41 Would you be complaining about that?

00:08:42 No, I don't think I would.

00:08:43 I'd be like, okay, whatever.

00:08:44 As long as they're healthy for the playoffs, which I guess is like what we said last time

00:08:51 for reference, Al played 63 this year and Rob played 35.

00:08:56 So if they play 60 games, that's probably on pace for where they're both that Porzingis

00:09:00 this past year played 68, I believe.

00:09:02 So he'd be taking a little step back.

00:09:03 I've only written 65 million times.

00:09:06 My bad, my bad.

00:09:07 So you want to save him for the playoffs a little bit.

00:09:08 So 60 is a fine goal for each of them would disqualify them from awards, but that's not

00:09:12 what the Celtics are worried about.

00:09:14 But at the same time, that leaves you with a cumulative.

00:09:18 I mean, obviously if they miss some of them together, it's less, but like bare numbers,

00:09:22 let's say two of them are healthy every game and they perfectly switch it off.

00:09:26 That's what 60 games of backup center minutes you're going to need to find, right?

00:09:30 Like acting like these three are going to get every single center minute because that's

00:09:35 probably what's going to happen.

00:09:36 The playoffs is completely unrealistic for the regular season.

00:09:38 You need Luke Cornette.

00:09:39 You need maybe probably a Blake Griffin.

00:09:41 You bring him back and then even past that, maybe you do want to bring in somebody who

00:09:44 brings in an extra skill set.

00:09:46 Like I'm I obviously don't like Christophs Porzingis is hurt, but I am not going to sit

00:09:54 here and act like it's the end of the world because this is who he is as a player.

00:09:58 Like he was always going to get hurt.

00:09:59 He was always going to get hurt.

00:10:04 There was always going to be something he dealt with.

00:10:06 Even last year, his quote unquote most healthy season ever.

00:10:08 He missed 17 games.

00:10:09 And so if he's going to be ready for training camp, good.

00:10:12 And then you manage this throughout the regular season.

00:10:14 So it's not as big of an issue in the playoffs.

00:10:16 That's the whole point.

00:10:17 And the whole trading Marcus Smart form thing does suck like that.

00:10:21 That is frustrating because Marcus Smart was, I mean, a core part of this team.

00:10:27 He's a fan favorite throughout Boston.

00:10:28 He was a key member of the community.

00:10:29 He played 61 games last year.

00:10:31 Marcus Smart played less games than Christophs Porzingis last year.

00:10:33 And I don't think this is a first of all, like you said, Wick said something had to

00:10:39 change.

00:10:40 Something had to be shaken up.

00:10:41 And ultimately, that's Marcus.

00:10:42 I just think the ceiling of the team is better now with the way we've they've rounded out

00:10:47 the roster.

00:10:48 And I think that's the important part and saying, oh, they traded Porzingis for an injury,

00:10:53 you know, or excuse me, they traded Smart for an injury prone big man.

00:10:56 That's dangerous.

00:10:57 Like a spoiler alert.

00:10:59 If Christophs Porzingis was an injury prone, then the Celtics probably wouldn't have gotten

00:11:03 him and wait for it to first round picks for Marcus Smart.

00:11:06 Right.

00:11:07 Like they probably wouldn't have been able to get that deal done.

00:11:08 Right.

00:11:09 You're not trading for a perfectly healthy 20 and eight guy and also getting two first

00:11:14 round picks for Marcus Smart.

00:11:16 And I love Marcus Smart.

00:11:17 But like that's crazy value.

00:11:19 And the reason why is probably because he's an injury risk.

00:11:22 That's an asterisk.

00:11:23 But that's a risk you have to take if you want to win a championship.

00:11:25 And I saw somebody tweet this on Twitter and it said, yeah, it stinks.

00:11:29 But like if Brad just kept running it back and running his head into the wall, then he

00:11:32 would turn into Danny.

00:11:33 And that was largely the biggest complaint with Danny is that he refused to package some

00:11:37 of these guys.

00:11:38 And I'm not saying had we Marcus Smart.

00:11:40 And the reason I'm saying is because it literally wasn't supposed to be Marcus Smart.

00:11:42 It was supposed to be Brogdon.

00:11:44 But like seeing Danny Inge go, oh no, let's keep Romeo.

00:11:47 Let's keep Aaron one more year.

00:11:49 Let's keep these guys one more year.

00:11:50 Let's keep this one more year.

00:11:51 No, no, keep it.

00:11:52 I don't think the interesting is fair.

00:11:53 Why?

00:11:54 I think because, okay, maybe they stuck around with like Pearson Garnett too long if you

00:12:01 really want to point that.

00:12:02 But anyways, he gets great value for those two guys.

00:12:05 Obviously it's built the current era of Celtics.

00:12:07 And then after they leave, you go from a Rondo centric plan to a pivot to a Isaiah Thomas

00:12:17 is the guy now to a Kyrie is the guy now to like that Celtics team from like 2015 to 2020

00:12:26 had so many different looks.

00:12:28 I don't think the sticking around with guys too long is a fair poke, at least an age.

00:12:34 Like, I don't know.

00:12:35 I mean, he made moves and he was so active that the moves he didn't make would get out

00:12:39 there and people were like, well, why is, why isn't he doing this one?

00:12:43 And I don't know if you want to transition just yet, but he went on the knuckleheads

00:12:47 podcast with Quentin Richardson and Darius miles and was talking about a trade that could

00:12:52 have happened.

00:12:53 I think it was in 2016.

00:12:54 This is one.

00:12:55 I remember hearing the rumors myself that Chicago is pontificating pondering about sending

00:13:02 Jimmy Butler to the Celtics, but they wanted both of the Brooklyn picks that turned into

00:13:05 Tatum and Brown.

00:13:07 And he was like, we weren't willing to do that.

00:13:09 And it worked out really well for the Celtics.

00:13:11 And he considered that to be one of the best trades he ever was involved in because he

00:13:15 didn't make it.

00:13:16 No, I agree.

00:13:17 And we can pivot.

00:13:18 But my, my point was mainly like, it was obviously a nitpick, but he just, he hoarded too often.

00:13:24 It just felt like he was obsessed with making it.

00:13:27 If he wasn't the perfect deal, I wasn't going to make it.

00:13:29 That was Danny and that was what he was known as.

00:13:30 That's not like this isn't something like I'm surprised that, and you can say good for

00:13:34 him, but that also meant like, okay, let's roll with a bench of, of Brad Wanamaker and

00:13:38 semi-officially for three seasons of Jason Tatum.

00:13:41 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:42 And again, this is nitpicking because the Celtics were Easter conference finals.

00:13:45 I'm not saying Danny just did a bad job, but like you didn't see, uh, what's the word,

00:13:51 um, what taking assets and finally just moving them into one thing.

00:13:55 Uh, I can't think of the word for it.

00:13:57 Compiling, uh, combining assets.

00:14:00 That's not the word, but you know what I'm saying?

00:14:01 You didn't see those sorts of moves until Derek white, Brad Stevens, Malcolm Brogdon,

00:14:05 Brad Stevens.

00:14:06 You didn't see those sorts of move into one thing.

00:14:09 Brad Stevens is a force.

00:14:10 Make no mistake.

00:14:11 Like he, he is not afraid to make changes.

00:14:14 I think him being in the coaching position really impacted how he's gone about this job

00:14:19 because he understands how some of the players on this team need to be set up to succeed.

00:14:25 So I think that's a big factor in that, but I don't know if it's fair to say age wasn't

00:14:31 willing to make a move because he made plenty of moves and consolidate.

00:14:36 He didn't make plenty of moves either.

00:14:39 Consolidate is the word I was consolidating assets.

00:14:41 Okay, fair.

00:14:42 My point is, I don't think age would have made the person get straight.

00:14:45 I do love that the poor Zingas angle here is we're like, well, you know, everybody knew

00:14:51 he was going to get hurt anyway, and that's why the Celtics got so much back for him.

00:14:57 But like, okay.

00:14:58 There was no like rule in the trade that he had to get hurt.

00:15:03 Like no, no, I'm not saying I'm glad it had to happen.

00:15:06 Like, I'm not saying like I was hoping for it.

00:15:09 Like I just knew it was going to happen.

00:15:10 Right.

00:15:11 Like it's the odds of the deal.

00:15:12 Like everybody was in agreement.

00:15:14 They were like nodding.

00:15:15 They were like, all right, fine.

00:15:17 No.

00:15:18 I just, I just assumed like there was no, he was not, he wasn't gonna play an 82 game

00:15:21 season.

00:15:22 He's just not going to have on the poor Zingas injury.

00:15:24 Good job.

00:15:25 Yeah.

00:15:26 We'd stuff to do.

00:15:27 Yeah.

00:15:28 As Sam mentioned, Danny and went on the knuckleheads podcast with Quentin Richardson and various

00:15:33 miles and he talked about a trade that didn't happen back in.

00:15:37 Do we have an exact year on this when this was, I think it's 2016.

00:15:40 He didn't say that, but from my memory, that is when this would have happened.

00:15:46 But Danny age almost traded for Jimmy Butler.

00:15:48 This Sam talked about, this is the exact quote of Danny age from the podcast.

00:15:52 Some of the best trades I ever made were the ones I wasn't able to make.

00:15:54 Like I was trying to get Jimmy Butler from Chicago when I was in Boston, but they wanted

00:15:57 a lot.

00:15:58 So we didn't do it because it ended up it ended up, it would have been Jalen and Jason,

00:16:02 both those draft picks.

00:16:03 We got those guys with and I bet a lot of Celtics fans are very happy.

00:16:08 And I saw one heat fan tweets the biggest mistake the Celtics made.

00:16:12 And it was picture of Jimmy Butler holding the Eastern conference final trophy.

00:16:15 And then some Celtics fan goes, Jimmy Butler is 33 and has won more finals appearances

00:16:19 than both the Jays.

00:16:20 I think we'll be fine.

00:16:22 But I just, I love it worked out for the Celtics and Jimmy Butler has been fantastic for Miami.

00:16:29 And you know, the one team that got screwed is Chicago.

00:16:32 Yeah.

00:16:33 Chicago kind of sucks.

00:16:34 Now a king of the fourth quarter tweeted out, he said, let's stop acting like this matters.

00:16:38 The bulls would have made the wrong picks.

00:16:40 Yeah.

00:16:41 Like Josh Jackson and well, Kristin was a bull, but not in the draft.

00:16:46 It would have been Josh Jackson.

00:16:48 And there was somebody else after Gail Brown who was bad.

00:16:50 That was, they would have picked drag and drag and drag and bender.

00:16:53 Yeah.

00:16:54 You forgot about that one, huh?

00:16:55 Durant.

00:16:56 Yep.

00:16:57 That's the tape Jersey.

00:17:01 But yeah, I mean, it's interesting to think about obviously, cause you go back and look,

00:17:05 it was the 2016.

00:17:06 We, you assume it was the year before the Jalen Brown draft.

00:17:09 I just remember it being like right around draft night that was being discussed.

00:17:13 It was cause Jimmy, Jimmy was ready to be out of there.

00:17:16 And then Chicago is out and they get Wade and Rondo and they play with that team and

00:17:19 almost give me a heart attack in the playoffs when Sully's went down to, Oh, at home.

00:17:24 Yeah.

00:17:25 So then back one, four straight, the Celtics team that would have added Jimmy Butler was

00:17:30 Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, Jay Crowder, Evan Turner, Jared soldier, Kelly Olenek,

00:17:35 Marcus smart.

00:17:36 Well, Evan Turner, excuse me at the hiccups.

00:17:39 Yeah.

00:17:40 That team lost in the first round of the Eastern conference.

00:17:42 Yeah.

00:17:43 Lost the first round of the Eastern conference.

00:17:45 You can go back and forth though.

00:17:46 You know what players would have been in the deal?

00:17:48 Probably a Jay Crowder, probably a Avery.

00:17:51 I don't even know what else that would have required, but then you would have created

00:17:53 a yeah.

00:17:54 Excuse me, Isaiah Thomas, Jimmy Butler, maybe Al Horford still signs their big.

00:18:01 No, Al Horford probably still would have came to town.

00:18:03 I think.

00:18:04 I also think that deal may have been something that they were pushing for to entice Durant

00:18:09 who was a target that summer.

00:18:11 That was the Tom Brady goes with Kelly Olenek to hang out with Durant summer.

00:18:15 What a time that was.

00:18:16 I remember I was working as a bus boy and I was like sneaking into the bathroom, like

00:18:22 every half hour, 20 minutes, like look at, look at Twitter and see what was happening.

00:18:27 And I just remember seeing that picture of all of them in the Hamptons.

00:18:30 And I was like, Oh my God, it's going to happen.

00:18:32 Cause there was real steam behind Durant coming here.

00:18:35 No, absolutely.

00:18:36 I was, uh, I remember when the news that he signed with golden state came out, I was in

00:18:40 at my dad's house and I was just downstairs and I was on my phone and I forget if it was

00:18:46 Henry or my dad.

00:18:47 I think Henry came down and he goes, Jack, I'm like, what?

00:18:49 And he goes, it, it, it, no.

00:18:51 And he just had like this distraught look on his face.

00:18:54 I'm like, where'd he sign?

00:18:56 And he, I go, it's not Boston.

00:18:58 He goes, I go, where else could it be?

00:19:00 And he goes, you don't want to know.

00:19:02 It was called state and it was just the disaster.

00:19:05 Um, yeah, man.

00:19:07 I mean, I'll ask you this, obviously Tatum Brown, like dub, dub for Danny edge, right?

00:19:13 Like just straight up, like those are two of the best wings in the league.

00:19:16 Now, if the qualification was you signed Jimmy Butler and you get Kevin Durant, would you,

00:19:23 would you have made the move?

00:19:24 Are you, are you fine?

00:19:25 And that's impossible to ask because of how great the Celtics have been with Jason Tatum

00:19:29 and Jalen Brown.

00:19:30 And the obvious answer is no, but if you think about it, at the time you're getting

00:19:35 essentially the same thing just earlier, yes.

00:19:37 Jalen Brown's worse than Jimmy Butler now make no mistake, but you would be getting

00:19:42 both of those guys, but at the time with, with very similar skill sets.

00:19:47 Yes.

00:19:48 So I'd probably do it at the time.

00:19:50 Yeah.

00:19:51 Yeah.

00:19:52 But in hindsight, when a title with Butler and Kevin Durant, probably.

00:19:56 Yeah.

00:19:57 So they probably beat, they probably win the bubble at the very least in that timeline.

00:20:05 In that timeline though, Isaiah Thomas gets a ring.

00:20:08 Marcus smart gets a ring.

00:20:09 You know, all these guys get rings in Boston.

00:20:13 If it comes with the qualification that the Celtics also got Kevin Durant, I think it

00:20:16 would be like, maybe you got to like consider it, but it's impossible to say yes to that

00:20:20 now knowing what happened.

00:20:22 And the best part of that to me is Chicago actually got like pretty good return for Jimmy

00:20:29 Butler.

00:20:30 Like I know it being marketing.

00:20:32 I don't know what picks anything.

00:20:35 Chris Chris done.

00:20:36 It was Levine marketing and Chris done.

00:20:38 And right now that looks like, okay, they got nothing because Levine, I will not nothing.

00:20:43 They got an all-star marketing and Chris done in Utah, by the way.

00:20:46 Exactly.

00:20:47 I know you don't like Zach Levine, but getting an all-star back when you're training and

00:20:52 all-star like that doesn't happen often, right?

00:20:54 Like, like when, if you're trading an all-star caliber player, usually getting prospects.

00:20:58 And if those prospects eventually turn into all-stars, you did a good job drafting, but

00:21:01 you don't usually get a guy, a budding all-star in return for that.

00:21:04 Like that's like, I'm trying to think of the equivalent trading for RJ Barrett in a trade

00:21:09 right now and him blossoming into an all-star.

00:21:11 That's the best equivalent I can think of.

00:21:13 Like in a lot of people would be impressed if that happened for RJ Barrett.

00:21:17 And so the Bulls actually got a good return, just not exactly as good as Jalen Brown and

00:21:23 Jason Tatum.

00:21:25 That Bulls team, by the way, they missed the playoffs.

00:21:28 They went 42 and 40.

00:21:30 It was Jimmy Butler leading the way with an old Pogosol, Derek Rose, Nicola Mirotic, Doug

00:21:35 McDermott, Taj Gibson on the team.

00:21:37 Not a very good Bulls team.

00:21:38 Could have used those draft picks.

00:21:41 That would have been 16, 17.

00:21:43 I'm looking at 15, 16.

00:21:46 What do you mean?

00:21:48 I'm looking at the team.

00:21:51 This Butler would have been ahead of the 16 draft.

00:21:56 I was looking at the team that this 16th year, I was looking at the same year that like,

00:22:01 oh, this Celtics roster would have added.

00:22:02 Oh, like when this would have been coming off of?

00:22:06 The next season, yeah.

00:22:07 The next season they still had Jimmy Butler, but then they also had Dwayne Wade, Taj Gibson.

00:22:10 They went and got Wade and Rondo and Rob Lowell.

00:22:13 Effectively the same as far as.

00:22:14 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:15 I was thinking Porter Junior or excuse me, Michael Carter Williams.

00:22:18 Who the Michael Carter Junior?

00:22:19 I was thinking Porter Junior.

00:22:20 I didn't know he played in Chicago.

00:22:22 That's weird.

00:22:23 Yeah, just interesting.

00:22:24 Interesting to picture Jimmy Butler in a Celtics jersey.

00:22:29 Would the Bulls have made the right pick Sam?

00:22:32 Maybe.

00:22:33 Trying to think like did they?

00:22:35 They didn't have high picks in those drafts.

00:22:37 Let me take a look.

00:22:38 2016 draft.

00:22:39 There was field, there was Dragon Bender.

00:22:44 Like you said, Chris Dunn was still there.

00:22:48 Tiaran Fox was the next year, I believe.

00:22:52 2016 Chicago had the 14th pick.

00:22:54 Who they pick Sam?

00:22:55 Tell me.

00:22:56 Let's throw back for you.

00:22:58 This is a tough one.

00:22:59 Not in the league anymore.

00:23:00 Celtics connection.

00:23:01 Celtics connection here.

00:23:02 Brief.

00:23:03 Celtics connection.

00:23:04 Brief.

00:23:05 Not Boston Celtics connection.

00:23:06 Oh, Denzel Valens.

00:23:07 Yeah, Denzel Valens is the 14th pick.

00:23:13 Not a great one.

00:23:14 A few picks later.

00:23:17 It was Denzel Valens at 14 to the Bulls.

00:23:18 Then there was Malik Beasley at 19.

00:23:20 Caris Levert at 20.

00:23:21 Pascal Siakam at 27.

00:23:22 Dejounte Murray at 29.

00:23:23 So probably could have done a little bit better.

00:23:27 What a pick that was.

00:23:29 Yeah, the Spurs are built different.

00:23:31 And then in the second round, you have Malcolm Brogdon at 36.

00:23:35 Paul Zipster at 48 and George Sneeding at 50.

00:23:37 Good job there, Chicago.

00:23:40 2017, Chicago had the 16th pick and they picked Justin Patton, but I believe he was traded

00:23:48 to the Timberwolves.

00:23:49 I don't think they made that pick.

00:23:51 Yeah, because in the 2017 draft, the Bulls traded Jimmy Butler, got seven, picked Mark

00:23:57 Innan, which was a good pick if they had any developmental skills, except they didn't.

00:24:01 And so he went on and thrived in Utah instead.

00:24:05 But they would have had the third pick and could have picked Tatum, Josh Jackson, Fox.

00:24:09 And at the time, like obviously right now, you look back at the draft, Jason Tatum, you

00:24:12 pick Jason Tatum.

00:24:14 That really wasn't the case at the time.

00:24:15 It was Mark Foltz is the clear first pick.

00:24:17 Lonsdall is clear, too.

00:24:19 And then it was like, should you go Tatum or Josh Jackson?

00:24:22 Like that was a legitimate question.

00:24:23 And the fact that Danny Ainge was ready to take Tatum first, if he couldn't get a deal

00:24:27 done, people were like, what is he doing?

00:24:29 What is this guy like?

00:24:30 What does he see?

00:24:31 And clearly we all now know what he saw.

00:24:32 It's funny, like that draft is stacked in none of the stack guys were at the top except

00:24:37 Tatum.

00:24:38 Like Lonsdale is a fine player, but he's hurt and Fultz is fine now, but his career got

00:24:44 up to a terrible start.

00:24:45 Josh Jackson out of the league, who is fine?

00:24:49 If you look at box box value over replacement player, which is it's listed here, box score

00:24:54 estimate of the points per 100 possessions, the player contributed basically just one

00:24:57 number that tells you how valuable the player was to his team so far.

00:25:00 2017 draft that is Tatum first with the third pick.

00:25:04 And then it was Mitchell at 13, Bam at 14, Jared Allen at 22, Fox at five, and then Derek

00:25:10 White at 29, John Collins at 19.

00:25:13 And then you got guys marketing Lonzo, OJ, didn't know me.

00:25:15 Monty Morris, Josh Hart, like you said, stacked draft.

00:25:19 You got Kyle Kuzma in here, Malik Monk.

00:25:21 And I know it's still like recently.

00:25:24 This was only six years ago, but the top 20 players on this list are all legitimate NBA

00:25:30 players like rotation pieces in the NBA to excuse me to this day, which again, you'd

00:25:34 say like, oh, it wasn't that long ago.

00:25:38 And still a really good draft.

00:25:39 Like a lot of them are stars now.

00:25:41 So shout out to them.

00:25:42 Don't know if the Bulls would have made the right picks, but thank you to Danny Ainge

00:25:45 from Celtics fans everywhere for not making that dream.

00:25:50 How different history could have looked, but yeah, the Celtics schedule for the in-season

00:25:56 tournament was released.

00:25:59 We had Celtics schedule news on a recent podcast.

00:26:03 And now we have more.

00:26:04 Sam, you wrote about this for Celtics blog.

00:26:05 Do you want to give the right?

00:26:06 Yes.

00:26:07 The league has just been sprinkling breadcrumbs all week leading up to when you're listening

00:26:11 to this, today's schedule release at 3 PM in November, the Celtics will open their in-season

00:26:18 tournament play on November 10th against the Brooklyn nets in their group.

00:26:24 They've got Brooklyn, Toronto, Orlando, and Chicago the next Friday, the 17th, they'll

00:26:31 be at Toronto at seven 30.

00:26:34 They will be another Friday at Orlando.

00:26:37 Then Tuesday, the 28th, they'll host the Bulls.

00:26:40 They'll play four games in the group.

00:26:42 Still top team in the group advances.

00:26:45 And then the next best team that does not win their group in the conference gets a wild

00:26:51 card spot.

00:26:52 And then there's an 18 little knockout stage.

00:26:55 But yes, I did write about this for Celtics blog.

00:27:00 Going to try and open the damn link.

00:27:02 There we go.

00:27:04 Go ahead, computer.

00:27:05 You got it.

00:27:06 I wrote, I wrote some predictions and I predict they're going to win the group.

00:27:12 This group is garbage.

00:27:15 One team in this group made the playoffs last year.

00:27:18 It was the nets.

00:27:20 It was the nets who made the playoffs largely due to having Kevin Durant and Kyrie for half

00:27:25 the season.

00:27:28 Chicago probably going to suck towards the bottom of the league.

00:27:31 Might be one of the worst teams that there is Toronto.

00:27:34 Similar story.

00:27:36 Brooklyn is not going to be as good as they were last year.

00:27:39 Record wise.

00:27:40 Toronto is probably the second best team in this group.

00:27:42 And they're like, uh, maybe there'll be good.

00:27:45 Maybe they won't team depending on how these young guys continue to develop.

00:27:49 The Celtics have no business not winning this group.

00:27:52 They just don't.

00:27:54 They are worlds better, but prediction number two, you know how it goes.

00:27:58 They're going to make you sweat.

00:27:59 That's what they do.

00:28:01 You watch the playoffs last year.

00:28:03 I watched the playoffs last year and I was just as unhappy as ever.

00:28:06 Anybody.

00:28:07 It was terrible.

00:28:08 Did they almost make the finals?

00:28:10 Yes, but it was absolutely painful.

00:28:12 If you go back and you look at their records against these teams last season, it's not

00:28:17 the prettiest things.

00:28:18 They bullied the hell out of Toronto though.

00:28:20 Swept them.

00:28:21 Raptors.

00:28:22 Yeah.

00:28:23 Cooked.

00:28:24 Not very good.

00:28:25 See, that's the thing though with the Celtics.

00:28:26 They're good against good teams.

00:28:28 They're bad against bad teams, but they are also good against the average teams.

00:28:32 Like they will, they will clap any, any, that was the angle I took.

00:28:35 Like they played out into their competition like forever.

00:28:37 I think I even linked something he wrote.

00:28:40 But last year, three and one against Brooklyn, the one loss came after the trade.

00:28:46 So with this current group, it has Celtics blue, that million point lead at home made

00:28:51 me like a hundred bucks that day on insurance.

00:28:54 They split against Chicago when they lost, they got stomped in two blowouts and they

00:28:58 were one in three against Orlando.

00:29:00 They lost a home and home to home games rather on a weekend.

00:29:05 One of them was Rob's return and it was a disastrous play.

00:29:09 Orlando plays Boston really well.

00:29:11 Even that one win the Celtics had was a tight game at the beginning, very beginning of the

00:29:15 season.

00:29:17 So it wouldn't be the most shocking thing if the Celtics just kind of saw how bad they

00:29:21 could play without completely ruining this for everybody.

00:29:25 Celtics, by the way, odds on favorites to win this.

00:29:29 They are the favorite.

00:29:31 Yes.

00:29:33 I mean, because of how shit the group is.

00:29:35 Yeah.

00:29:36 For example, Denver has a kind of strong group.

00:29:38 It's Denver, New Orleans, Houston, Dallas, and LA Clippers.

00:29:43 Yeah, it's pretty good.

00:29:45 So like realistically, Denver's a real contending team for an NBA championship.

00:29:51 Dallas probably is getting there.

00:29:52 They had a great off season.

00:29:54 New Orleans with Zion's healthy was the top team in the West for two months last year.

00:29:59 Houston is trying to compete.

00:30:01 Now they went out and got free agents, albeit overpays, but still they brought in people

00:30:04 to play with their young core and the Clippers have quiet Paul George.

00:30:08 Whether those guys actually decide they want to take the floor is one thing, but they are

00:30:12 the guys on their team.

00:30:13 Right.

00:30:14 Yeah.

00:30:15 This Celtics group is just like, who's the best non Celtic in this group?

00:30:20 Paolo or bridges?

00:30:23 It's probably Lavina to Rose and that's not a good team.

00:30:27 They're not a good team, but those are good players.

00:30:29 They've both got players.

00:30:32 See Occam to second good player.

00:30:33 Yeah, bad.

00:30:34 But seriously, I know what you mean, though.

00:30:37 Like, did you put predictions down for like, Oh, I think they'll win this game, lose this

00:30:40 game.

00:30:41 I do that.

00:30:42 I didn't predict the games because when I wrote this up, the schedule was not out yet.

00:30:46 And I had to predict the games just quickly.

00:30:48 I think they win.

00:30:49 They go three in one.

00:30:50 They lose to the magic.

00:30:51 I think that's probably what happened in the in this in season.

00:30:53 I like it if they didn't do that.

00:30:56 Last prediction, Joe, Missoula used the in season tournament as an audition for playoff

00:31:00 minutes.

00:31:01 Here's why this is important.

00:31:03 Last year we saw Grant Williams acts from the rotation, right?

00:31:08 But there was nobody that Missoula used to replace him in the playoffs.

00:31:12 Really?

00:31:13 Sam Hauser barely played in the playoffs.

00:31:15 He was a key contributor all season.

00:31:17 We've talked about him on the show before where he was contributing good numbers as

00:31:21 a starter.

00:31:22 He was even better.

00:31:23 His percentage never dipped below 40% from what I remember I was talking about yet.

00:31:28 He did not play in the playoffs.

00:31:29 You might say, why, why would he not play in the playoffs?

00:31:32 Even his defense isn't that bad all season.

00:31:34 You saw teams trying to tackle and it didn't work.

00:31:37 It's because Missoula didn't trust him.

00:31:39 He hadn't seen him in any real games, any real high intensity games.

00:31:44 Will these tournament games be that there's no guarantee.

00:31:49 I mean, listen, I don't, I'm not convinced the fans are going to care about this, but

00:31:53 I don't think $500,000 in prize money for each player is going to do it either.

00:31:58 But maybe, maybe if they decide that it's important, however, the NBA wants to push

00:32:04 this to their organizations.

00:32:07 Sure.

00:32:08 I could see these games being real and competitive.

00:32:10 Why not?

00:32:11 So I think it could be a great like audition type thing for a higher level of play where

00:32:17 things are gritty out there.

00:32:19 It's not like going through the motion stuff in November and December like normal.

00:32:23 Agree.

00:32:24 I think it was Bobby Marks.

00:32:26 Yeah, it was Bobby Marks.

00:32:27 You said, I think the winner of this, excuse me, should get an automatic bid to the playoffs.

00:32:31 Like I think that in season term, we should get an automatic bid to play.

00:32:34 And his thing was, it shouldn't be, they get a certain seed.

00:32:37 They should get a top six seed, but it's still by, by seating.

00:32:40 So if the Celtics are the two seed and they win the in-season tournament, they stay the

00:32:43 two seed.

00:32:44 But if the piston somehow managed to win the in-season tournament, they will just get the

00:32:47 six seed and everything else changes accordingly.

00:32:50 So I mean, that's interesting.

00:32:52 I don't know.

00:32:53 I've seen all kinds of stuff pitched for this.

00:32:54 I think, I think it's really cool.

00:32:56 I think they should play around with the idea of, I think, legitimately getting stuff from

00:33:01 this other than this 500 grand prize money, because it really doesn't mean anything to

00:33:06 any of the stars.

00:33:07 The end of the bench guys.

00:33:08 Yes.

00:33:09 Like if you're making like, yeah, like yeah, extra 500 grand is like what, like an extra

00:33:13 50% of your contract, whatever they make.

00:33:16 But if you gave, I think the most intriguing one is like a 15th lottery pick where it's

00:33:22 a very low, very low chance of getting like into the top four, but just to like make it.

00:33:29 So yeah, maybe, maybe we could, maybe we get lucky.

00:33:33 Maybe we get lucky, but that's, do they get, do they get the 15th pick if they don't win

00:33:37 the lottery or they just get a chance to win a top four pick?

00:33:39 And then if they don't get a top four pick, they get nothing.

00:33:41 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:43 I think you get, I wouldn't say they get nothing, but they just get whatever pick they would

00:33:45 have.

00:33:46 I, I think you get the 15th lottery pick and if it jumps into the top four, you get it.

00:33:53 If not, you just get whatever pick you have.

00:33:55 Yeah, that's fine.

00:33:56 My other idea was I think you either get the tendency.

00:34:02 I think the playoffs is too much.

00:34:03 I think you get a spot in the play in.

00:34:05 So if like, let's say the pistons or the, you know, Pacers or the magic managed to win

00:34:11 this tournament, they automatically get guaranteed the 10th seat, right?

00:34:16 And that that's big for those teams, right?

00:34:17 Like if the Pacers or magic really wanted to push for it and they get guaranteed the

00:34:21 tendency and the play in, like that's huge experience for them.

00:34:24 So I think that's it.

00:34:25 But then to make sure there's also incentive for these other teams, I think you say, all

00:34:32 right, if you win the in season tournament and you make the finals, you get home court

00:34:35 advantage.

00:34:37 And so that way either, if the Celtics are in the in season tournament, the bucks are

00:34:41 in the in season nuggets.

00:34:42 They're like, all right, if we really want to look ahead, like maybe let's get some.

00:34:45 Maybe there's like a prize.

00:34:46 Like, it's like a like a pick your prize type thing.

00:34:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:50 No, I think it's like when you win like a scavenger hunt and they have like little like

00:34:54 prizes for the kids.

00:34:55 They can get like, yeah, like matchbox or in my elementary school or in my elementary

00:35:01 school, we have the prize box.

00:35:02 Like if you want something or you run a contest at lunch, the principal, Mr. Smith, he'd call

00:35:06 you up.

00:35:07 He's like, go on to the prize box and you reach in, you grab something.

00:35:09 It was nothing like it was just like he said, it was a matchbox car or something stupid,

00:35:12 but it was it was fun because you got up in front of the whole school and you picked a

00:35:15 prize.

00:35:16 So that was fun.

00:35:17 But yeah, in season tournament is out.

00:35:19 The next Celtics thing we have Jason Tatum talking about J.P.'s extension.

00:35:25 Excuse me, this was from Gary Washburn, the Boston Globe.

00:35:29 Jason Tatum talking about Jalen Brown's extension.

00:35:31 Much deserved.

00:35:32 It was a no brainer.

00:35:33 So I'm happy for him and his family.

00:35:35 It's life changing.

00:35:36 It's a big deal.

00:35:37 I'm happy we're going to have him for however much longer we've got him.

00:35:39 I'm happy about that.

00:35:40 Pretty generic.

00:35:41 Good for my teammate quote.

00:35:42 But Sam, you wrote on here, Jason Tatum's next, right?

00:35:45 Yeah, he has to be.

00:35:46 I mean, next summer we're going to have this whole thing again.

00:35:50 I don't think there's going to be as much back and forth on whether they should do it

00:35:54 or not.

00:35:55 It's going to be a given.

00:35:56 This is your franchise guy.

00:35:57 You're going to pay him.

00:35:58 But I'd imagine the number might be a little bit bigger than Jalen's just because a year

00:36:01 later the cat might grow or I don't know how it all works.

00:36:05 But just listening to you read Tatum's quote does make me think a bit.

00:36:09 It's like, OK, he is completely focused on being with the Celtics.

00:36:14 There's no question of him trying to mess around and test free agency.

00:36:19 It sounds like he legitimately is next.

00:36:22 It sounds like next summer they're going to come to an agreement where he inks a big extension.

00:36:26 He's going to make a ton of money.

00:36:28 And he's all about it.

00:36:29 I remember early in Tatum's career, one thing, I think on the show we would talk about it

00:36:33 a couple of times at least, was like, oh, is he going to go play for another team?

00:36:37 He grew up a Lakers fan.

00:36:39 People loved that narrative for a while.

00:36:41 It's kind of died out ever since the Celtics have really taken the next step and become

00:36:44 a powerhouse, except they just don't win titles.

00:36:49 But yeah, I think this is kind of good for the future if you really want to read into

00:36:53 it other than being generic.

00:36:55 And the answer, yes, Tatum has to be next.

00:36:57 There's no doubt about it.

00:36:58 Where else are you going to spend the money?

00:37:00 There's no alternative.

00:37:01 Tatum is the best candidate for the Supermax.

00:37:05 Pretty easy.

00:37:06 If you give it to Brown, you can easily give the Tatum.

00:37:08 It's a no brainer.

00:37:09 Agreed.

00:37:10 I mean, Celtics were never going to not pay Jason Tatum.

00:37:13 It's just he is happy for Jalen Brown to get paid.

00:37:15 Now they're going to have both their guys on max contracts, which again, let's not act

00:37:19 like that's a new thing in the NBA.

00:37:21 Like a lot of teams have two guys in max contracts because they're their two best players.

00:37:24 It is what it is, right?

00:37:26 Like that's that's how the NBA works.

00:37:27 You want to keep your guys, you pay them money.

00:37:29 The real interesting thing is the Derek White extension, I think coming up, which we don't

00:37:32 have to talk in depth about, but he's going to be eligible later this summer or closer

00:37:35 to the season.

00:37:36 Who cares?

00:37:37 Pay him.

00:37:38 I think that'll be important.

00:37:39 I agree.

00:37:40 Seriously, you're at the point where like you're in this deep.

00:37:43 Do it like, yes, I understand that the second apron is a motherfucker.

00:37:48 Like make no mistake, that thing is going to punish teams that overspend.

00:37:53 You're going to have your draft pick drop to the end of the round.

00:37:55 You're not going to be able to take back more money in trades.

00:37:58 The whole nine.

00:37:59 It's not great.

00:38:00 Not ideal for teams that are trying to stay relevant.

00:38:04 Kind of.

00:38:05 Yeah, but I don't know.

00:38:06 Like you're in this far.

00:38:08 You can spend that money on Derek White.

00:38:10 If you don't pay Derek White, you can't really spend it anywhere else.

00:38:13 No, right.

00:38:14 Oh, you're right.

00:38:15 Twenty five mil.

00:38:16 That's what I'm looking at for Derek White.

00:38:18 Hopefully they can get it done.

00:38:20 That's what I'll be looking for.

00:38:22 Marcus Smart was working out in Memphis Grizzlies gear.

00:38:26 Sammy put this on here.

00:38:28 I assume you're not too happy.

00:38:29 It wasn't a great sight for you.

00:38:31 Ruined your day.

00:38:32 Yeah.

00:38:33 Well, I saw it today after we learned like Porzingis is going to be out, I guess not

00:38:37 out.

00:38:38 But like he's dealing with an injury.

00:38:39 We learned that the report was, in fact, true.

00:38:43 And then you see pictures of smart working out in Grizzlies gear.

00:38:46 And you're just like the Wolverine meme of him looking at the photo of whatever he's

00:38:52 longing for.

00:38:53 So putting it up on the screen for those watching on YouTube.

00:38:56 Yeah.

00:38:57 Smart work out of this Grizzlies gear later today.

00:39:01 Get to figure out when he's come back to the garden.

00:39:04 We do.

00:39:05 We will know.

00:39:06 Number one on my power rankings on Celtics blog.

00:39:07 Go walk.

00:39:08 Go read it.

00:39:09 Yeah.

00:39:10 Well, it's going to be a big game.

00:39:11 Yeah.

00:39:12 Go read it when it's out.

00:39:13 That's going to be out.

00:39:14 Does that when the schedule is out, it'll be out.

00:39:15 But spoiler alert, power ranking number one game of the season.

00:39:19 There we go.

00:39:20 There we go.

00:39:21 Big time above Celtics Lakers on Christmas.

00:39:24 You put smart return above Christmas against you only get returns every once in a while.

00:39:29 Seriously, you only get like big time returns.

00:39:32 Like I'd imagine these tickets plus at least Lakers not home.

00:39:35 Okay.

00:39:36 Yeah.

00:39:37 No games like if that game was not on Christmas, the home Celtics Lakers game would be the

00:39:43 better game.

00:39:44 Is that your list though?

00:39:45 It made your list though.

00:39:46 Christmas against Lakers.

00:39:47 Yes.

00:39:48 On the list.

00:39:49 Good.

00:39:50 Good.

00:39:51 Just checking.

00:39:52 Anyways, last thing we have for the day is an email.

00:39:53 Actually we got from a list.

00:39:56 Mailbag RJ Johnson, who I have seen in the comments, I believe before emailed us and

00:40:02 we I Sam checks the email.

00:40:04 I rarely check the email, but I get all of them.

00:40:07 If you'd like to email us, you can.

00:40:09 It's just HBTC pod at gmail.com.

00:40:13 I can put it on the screen right now because I'm going to pull up the actual email so you

00:40:16 guys can see it.

00:40:19 But if you'd like to email us at HBTC pod at gmail.com, we read it, we'll hear it, we'll

00:40:25 see DMs and stuff too if you want to do it that way.

00:40:27 But yeah, I mean, we got an email from RJ Johnson who was very kind and I thought it

00:40:32 was very cool.

00:40:33 Sam sent it to me today and we're going to react to his questions and if you send us

00:40:37 emails, we'll absolutely react to your questions.

00:40:39 This is something it's August.

00:40:40 We need help.

00:40:41 So if you want to ask us stuff, go ahead.

00:40:44 Send us emails.

00:40:45 RJ Johnson said, "Hi gents, this is Celtics West on Celtics blog and RJ Johnson."

00:40:49 A legend by the way.

00:40:50 Yeah.

00:40:51 He was actually pleased to see me on the round table.

00:40:55 My debut on Celtics blog.

00:40:56 This is the guy that said hello.

00:40:58 Yeah.

00:40:59 RJ Johnson, 50 year long Celtics fan almost and I'm really enjoying your podcast.

00:41:03 Old fashioned and I like email over DMs, chat, et cetera.

00:41:06 Send us emails, please.

00:41:07 If you're listening to the podcast and you'd rather send us an email, HBTC pod at gmail.com.

00:41:11 We'll look at them, definitely.

00:41:14 He asked a couple of questions.

00:41:15 We're going to read them then.

00:41:16 Also, he said, "Seriously, you two are way better to listen to than Sean Grandy and I

00:41:19 look forward to each new episode.

00:41:20 Keep having fun."

00:41:21 Hey, we appreciate you.

00:41:23 Well, Sean Grandy and the fellas stole our old name, so there's that.

00:41:28 Also true.

00:41:29 Friend of the pod, Sean Grandy though.

00:41:30 Celtics fan from when Jim Ard, he did, from when Jim Ard wore 34.

00:41:34 RJ Johnson, that's a throwback.

00:41:36 But let's go over the questions.

00:41:38 Let's say Blake decides not to return to Celtics this year.

00:41:40 Do you think Luke Cornette can provide quality minutes filling in for Rob Al, KP, over the

00:41:44 course of the season?

00:41:45 We kind of talked about this a little earlier.

00:41:47 I'm of the mind they should probably get another big man who does something a little different

00:41:51 to Luke Cornette.

00:41:52 I had this conversation with Bobby Manning on Twitter today.

00:41:53 Luke Cornette's a fine defender.

00:41:55 He's a fine straight up guy.

00:41:57 He can block some shots.

00:41:58 He can play straight up defense in the post.

00:42:00 Maybe you bring in somebody with a little bit more athleticism, like a Fareed or a Bismarck

00:42:04 Biambo or somebody who can shoot a little bit like a Christian Wood or a Jamaican Green.

00:42:09 I like Fareed, but I think he should get another big man.

00:42:12 If that's Blake, it's fine.

00:42:13 But even then, I would be fine if they want to get another big who can do a little bit

00:42:16 of stuff because I really don't see many other holes on this roster unless you want to get

00:42:20 a guard instead.

00:42:22 At that point, it's picking at straws.

00:42:23 But I'd like to see them bring in another big, and I hope it's Blake.

00:42:26 But if not, I do think that's something the Celtics should get, is an insurance thing

00:42:30 for the end of the bench.

00:42:32 Yeah.

00:42:33 I think personally, Cornette did a fine job last season when he was called upon.

00:42:36 He did have moments where he was like, "What is this guy doing?"

00:42:39 He appeared in what, 71 games last year?

00:42:41 69.

00:42:42 Nice.

00:42:43 69 games?

00:42:44 Okay.

00:42:45 Yeah.

00:42:46 I should have remembered that.

00:42:47 But he was really serviceable in all of his games.

00:42:48 He kind of beat out Vonley at the beginning of the year for that helping big guy in the

00:42:52 rotation thing, and then they cut Vonley or traded him, and then he got cut by the Spurs.

00:42:56 So I personally am not fearful of a world where Cornette has to fill time for the Celtics,

00:43:03 more fearful of why he's actually having to fill that time.

00:43:06 But I think he was fine last year.

00:43:07 I think he earned a spot.

00:43:09 They technically haven't re-signed him yet, right?

00:43:11 Oh yes.

00:43:12 No, no, no.

00:43:13 He's on the roster.

00:43:14 He's on the roster.

00:43:15 He was on a non-guaranteed contract, but he's on the roster.

00:43:16 Yes.

00:43:17 Yes, yes, yes.

00:43:18 So Cornette is there.

00:43:19 I think Cornette will be good, but maybe grab an extra guy.

00:43:20 But my pick, if not him, Farid.

00:43:22 Farid rules.

00:43:23 I love Farid.

00:43:24 Go watch the video.

00:43:25 Watch us watch the Farid highlights.

00:43:27 He's a dog in the G League right now.

00:43:29 He looks like prime Kenneth Farid.

00:43:32 It's like, "What's wrong with this?

00:43:34 Why is nobody signing him?"

00:43:35 This guy rules.

00:43:36 His highlights are fantastic.

00:43:38 January 24th, Farid said, "I'm ready.

00:43:41 I'm focused.

00:43:42 I'm locked in.

00:43:43 Trying to make a return to the NBA."

00:43:44 So, hey man, hopefully you can get there.

00:43:46 I'd love to see him get an NBA.

00:43:47 He deserves another chance.

00:43:48 Hopefully, we'll promote him enough.

00:43:49 Maybe.

00:43:50 Maybe.

00:43:51 Maybe we ask Kenneth Farid.

00:43:53 Next question from RJ here.

00:43:55 Which current Celtics player is best suited to fill Marcus's role of reminding Jason Jalen

00:44:00 that they can't just walk onto the court and expect victory?

00:44:03 I think D-White has earned respect with this game, but do you think he fills the personal

00:44:06 style?

00:44:07 To fill that role, I'll be in a different style.

00:44:10 I think if the Jays still need that reminding, then there's a bigger issue.

00:44:14 And I'm not saying they didn't in years past because they did, but if there was ever a

00:44:17 time for them to finally figure it out and not be that way, it is now that Marcus Smart's

00:44:21 gone and maybe that's what gets them snapped into place.

00:44:24 Do they have no choice?

00:44:25 Yeah.

00:44:26 They have no choice.

00:44:27 I have an answer to this.

00:44:28 My answer is Al Horford too.

00:44:29 I assume that's what you're going to say.

00:44:30 My answer is Sam Cassell.

00:44:32 I think that's part of the reason they brought him onto the coaching staff.

00:44:36 Make no mistake, he's got plenty of experience.

00:44:38 He was with Doc for years on the assistant staff.

00:44:42 Was in Philly last year as part of that staff.

00:44:45 But he's a former player.

00:44:48 Guys in the league respect former players a lot, especially somebody like Cassell that

00:44:51 was a part of a couple of winning teams.

00:44:54 So I wouldn't be shocked if he's the one that has to set them straight every once in a while.

00:44:58 I could see them respecting him.

00:45:00 And I don't necessarily think there's going to be another guy on the team that's going

00:45:05 to do that.

00:45:06 Maybe Al Horford.

00:45:08 I think Cassell is the man to say, get your head out of your ass, buddy.

00:45:12 I hope so.

00:45:13 I hope that's what they brought him in for.

00:45:14 I mean, Charles Lee's there too.

00:45:15 He's another well-respected assistant.

00:45:17 They do have guys on the roster that should be able to.

00:45:20 Maybe it's Phil Presi.

00:45:21 We don't know.

00:45:22 It's another former NBA player.

00:45:23 He did.

00:45:24 He did kind of.

00:45:28 And then the last question, RJ or second class, I guess, hit us with, do you have, do you

00:45:33 two have any more intel on what roles members of Celtics Missoula's, excuse me, coach Missoula's

00:45:37 staff will have both in game and on the player development front one?

00:45:41 No, we're not that into.

00:45:43 And I wish we were.

00:45:44 That'd be pretty cool.

00:45:45 But if I had to guess it's Charles Lee is the lead assistant.

00:45:49 That is his role.

00:45:50 He is the top assistant on the team.

00:45:51 I assume Sam Cassell helps in the role of I am a former NBA player.

00:45:55 Let me do a little bit of what Damon Stoudemire did, where he's helping the guys.

00:45:59 He's given that perspective.

00:46:00 Phil Presi also probably do that a little bit.

00:46:02 Emil Jefferson's there to probably more is that he feels like the closest thing to a

00:46:08 players coach in the sense that, I mean, he's not all that much older than them, but like

00:46:11 he'll probably like relate to them the best if that's something that needs to be done

00:46:16 anymore.

00:46:17 Does that make sense?

00:46:18 Like he seemed to remember when Evan Turner was on the bench.

00:46:19 I know what you mean, but I just think he's there because he's Tatum's friend, which is

00:46:23 possible.

00:46:24 I think that's a cool thing to say, though.

00:46:27 He's definitely done enough to earn it.

00:46:28 He had a career.

00:46:29 He was on the Celtics training camp roster a couple of times.

00:46:32 He was on the preseason roster.

00:46:33 He wore number 20 at one time.

00:46:35 And then obviously Sam Cassell is all the things we just talked about, like the player

00:46:40 development, the mindset stuff, and that stuff's important too.

00:46:43 So I don't know specific roles, though.

00:46:45 I don't know who will focus on defense, offense, et cetera.

00:46:48 Yeah.

00:46:49 No, I mean, there's not much more to say than that.

00:46:51 I have no assistant coach Intel.

00:46:53 The only take I have is the same Cassell take.

00:46:55 I just think he's there to set them straight.

00:46:57 And I just to piggyback on you when they lost him and Stoudemire, it feel like it felt like

00:47:02 it was something that was really felt like they really missed him.

00:47:07 Once he left, they kind of went on a weird skid.

00:47:09 They blew a couple of leads.

00:47:10 Grant said he was going to make both and then things went to hell.

00:47:13 Right.

00:47:14 Yeah.

00:47:15 Yeah.

00:47:16 And I feel like it wasn't covered enough or talked about enough that were like, oh, they

00:47:19 really lost like one of the top assistants in the season.

00:47:22 In a season where Joe Mazzola was thrust into the spotlight.

00:47:25 Joe Mazzola just becomes Will Smith in the room by himself.

00:47:30 And then the last thing RJ said, finally, when will you guys sell Matt the rat stuffies?

00:47:36 We still need to make a lot of.

00:47:37 Yeah, we need to still make you guys a ratless T-shirts.

00:47:41 We did promise that.

00:47:42 So we need to get on that.

00:47:44 I want to have it.

00:47:45 I would wear a hat.

00:47:46 How do you know?

00:47:47 We'll make the T-shirts.

00:47:50 Maybe we'll sell a specific design that you can get on hats or T-shirts.

00:47:54 We'll figure something out.

00:47:55 We'll find a way.

00:47:56 We'll do our research.

00:47:57 But thank you to if anybody knows somebody that can do it, let us know.

00:48:01 Yes.

00:48:02 Let us know.

00:48:03 Graphic design stuff.

00:48:04 But thank you to RJ for hitting us up in the comments.

00:48:06 We appreciate it.

00:48:07 I thought that was super cool.

00:48:08 Yes.

00:48:09 And if you want to reach us again, HPTC pod at Gmail dot com.

00:48:12 I think that's dope.

00:48:13 So we'll definitely read out your responses if you send us an email or a DM or any of

00:48:17 that stuff.

00:48:18 But thank you to RJ once again.

00:48:19 All right, let's jump.

00:48:20 Fifty minutes.

00:48:21 Fifty minutes in mid-August.

00:48:22 Lots of Celtics stuff.

00:48:23 We got plenty of stuff for you.

00:48:26 Let's get into the NBA here, starting with, I believe, Pat Bev quote on Trae Young is

00:48:31 the first thing we got.

00:48:32 So I'll let you lead that because I know you put it in the sheet.

00:48:35 It is.

00:48:36 Pat Bev, interesting take.

00:48:39 Something about these guys that used to play in Minnesota or played for Minnesota or currently

00:48:43 do and trying to say that somebody is changing the game.

00:48:48 I think Carl Anthony Times even, you know, he said it on Paul George, not Pat.

00:48:51 There's too many pods now.

00:48:52 I get lose track anyways.

00:48:54 Yeah.

00:48:55 Whether it's Kat saying he changed the game.

00:48:56 Now you have Pat Bev saying Trae Young is reinventing the game.

00:49:01 Whatever Steph Curry is leaving over, he's taking it and running with it.

00:49:06 Took his team to the Eastern Conference finals.

00:49:08 Fact.

00:49:09 He's one big on the road.

00:49:10 Fact.

00:49:11 So you have to give him a lot of credit.

00:49:12 I suppose all of this is true.

00:49:13 He's not lying, but I'm not convinced he's necessarily Stephen Curry.

00:49:17 I think I different player.

00:49:19 I think we've talked about this before.

00:49:20 I agree.

00:49:21 I think Pat Bev is just doesn't have the correct definition of reinventing because he said

00:49:27 Trae Young is reinventing the game.

00:49:29 And then he said he is following in the footsteps of Stephen Curry.

00:49:33 Like that is not reinventing.

00:49:34 That is, but he's also the same guy.

00:49:38 That is like the exact opposite of reinventing.

00:49:40 Like I think you could argue any other player in the league is reinventing more than Trae

00:49:45 Young, who is.

00:49:46 I would say that's not a knock on trail, but in fairness to Pat Bev, Steph Curry did a

00:49:50 lot to change the game.

00:49:52 So I guess what he's saying is he'll be the guy to carry on the torch in which I agree

00:49:57 type of area.

00:49:58 Yeah, I suppose.

00:49:59 I don't know.

00:50:00 I don't know.

00:50:01 I see the angle he was going for.

00:50:04 My question is, does Trae Young win a championship, Sam?

00:50:07 Maybe that's my question.

00:50:08 Not right now.

00:50:09 No, I think a lot is going to have to change.

00:50:12 I don't think we should completely throw out that run where they actually made a run, though.

00:50:17 I agree.

00:50:18 I don't think he wins one Atlanta, but I think he moves to another team and he might get

00:50:21 one as I think there were flashes against the Celtics where you were like, wow, this

00:50:25 guy can take over a game.

00:50:26 I mean, he took over games better than anybody on the Celtics in that series.

00:50:30 It felt like and you can mock Madison Square Garden all you want.

00:50:34 He killed the Knicks.

00:50:36 It wasn't a great next team, but he I know.

00:50:39 I know, but like that is a playoff series at Madison Square Garden with a crowd that

00:50:42 was I mean, they beat the one seed Sixers if you really want to, you know, crown.

00:50:48 He had Ben Simmons, who at the time was a really great defender, still kind of is guarding

00:50:52 him and chasing him around as a 610 guy guarding a 6 1 guy on the perimeter.

00:50:59 He deserves credit.

00:51:00 Trae Young gives credit.

00:51:01 All these rankings without him in the top five, I think are crazy.

00:51:03 Yeah, I've point guards in the East.

00:51:05 Trae Young's trailing is good.

00:51:06 I think we're ranking under.

00:51:07 Well, you know, we've only got more videos.

00:51:11 Yeah, it didn't do very well.

00:51:12 You're right now.

00:51:13 I don't care.

00:51:16 Next thing we have here is Jamal Murray is going to be sitting out of the World Cup.

00:51:21 Another guy missing the World Cup in addition to Porting is he was going to play for Team

00:51:24 Canada, but.

00:51:25 It's an Instagram post.

00:51:27 Nuggets fans handshake players not playing in the World Cup.

00:51:31 Jamal Murray said when I came into training camp, I wanted to see how my body would respond

00:51:35 after a long and demanding season.

00:51:36 If I would be physically able to compete at the highest level required for the World Cup

00:51:39 in consultation with medical staff and the team, it is clear that the additional recovery

00:51:43 is required and I've made the difficult decision not to participate in the tournament.

00:51:46 It's still a dream of mine to represent Canada at the Olympics and I will support the team

00:51:49 every step of the way as they pursue this goal.

00:51:51 Sam added some context here.

00:51:53 Thank you, Sam.

00:51:54 Missed the entire 2122 season with an ACL tear played 85 total games in 2223, including

00:51:59 the playoffs.

00:52:00 Excellent in the postseason, averaging 26, seven and five and a half assists.

00:52:05 Good playoff run for seven rebounds.

00:52:07 Seven seven assists, five rebounds.

00:52:12 Incredible in the postseason.

00:52:13 Won a title, obviously.

00:52:16 Get your rest.

00:52:17 I mean, you could just chill and watching some horses and he's literally all of Team

00:52:20 Serbia.

00:52:21 I think tomorrow Murray can set out with Shea Yelders Alexander carrying the torch.

00:52:25 It's true.

00:52:27 That's my take there.

00:52:28 I think it would have been kind of interesting if he did get to play.

00:52:30 Do I think Nuggets fans should be concerned with this?

00:52:33 Probably not.

00:52:34 I think he's a bit weird.

00:52:36 I think that he's saying he's still recovering.

00:52:37 It's just kind of weird.

00:52:38 Like I don't know.

00:52:39 Like that doesn't seem super duper normal.

00:52:41 I get it.

00:52:42 It's a long, long season.

00:52:43 He didn't even play the year before, so his body's getting back up to speed and he clearly

00:52:47 wasn't slowing down because he did play so well in the playoffs.

00:52:50 But I just do wonder, like what's going on?

00:52:53 This reads, I'm tired.

00:52:54 Let me rest.

00:52:55 That's what I'm.

00:52:56 I guess I wouldn't read.

00:52:57 Sure.

00:52:58 But maybe I guess we'll have to see.

00:52:59 I don't know.

00:53:00 All right.

00:53:01 You want to do Sam's Reddit post of the day.

00:53:05 Yes.

00:53:06 Hit me with what you got.

00:53:08 This is slowly becoming my favorite part because I don't know anything about it.

00:53:10 I get to rely, react.

00:53:12 Yes.

00:53:13 So this is from user 2021 dark moss three S's XP.

00:53:19 He posts on the NBA subreddit or she is.

00:53:22 What is your quote unquote?

00:53:24 There is nothing you can say to me that would ever change my opinion.

00:53:28 NBA opinion in the context would be this goes beyond unpopular, beyond bold, beyond controversial,

00:53:36 an opinion that irrespective of its merits, if God himself came down and said otherwise,

00:53:42 you wouldn't change your opinion if you believe in God.

00:53:44 Some people don't.

00:53:45 An opinion you hold so firmly that even if the person or team that opinion was about

00:53:52 said otherwise, you still wouldn't change it.

00:53:55 Man, that's a tough question to think about.

00:53:59 I don't.

00:54:00 The top comment is somebody with a Pistons tag that says this is our year.

00:54:04 I saw that.

00:54:05 Yes.

00:54:06 I'm trying to not look at the comments first so I can think of one.

00:54:10 I don't know.

00:54:11 Like one of my hottest takes I've said on the pod was if you put Ben Simmons in Yannis's

00:54:17 shoes on the box, he would have won an MVP.

00:54:20 And my I think I've said this multiple times on here.

00:54:22 My my context is Ben Simmons was good at everything except shooting.

00:54:27 He was like peak Ben Simmons.

00:54:30 Great at driving to the hoop.

00:54:31 Could score great playmaker, probably a better playmaker than than Yannis.

00:54:35 So if you put him on that box team with Drew shooting the ball, Chris shooting the ball,

00:54:39 Brooke shooting the ball and then caught it and whatever guy you want to like shooters

00:54:43 around him and not pair him with literally one of maybe two players in the league who

00:54:48 has to be in the paint, which is the one thing Ben Simmons shouldn't be playing with.

00:54:52 I think he would have been an all NBA player every year and probably would have won an

00:54:57 MVP if you put him in the exact situation Yannis was in the I.

00:55:00 I genuinely think Ben Simmons could have won an MVP.

00:55:03 I think your argument is good, but I just don't think the mindset was there.

00:55:06 I just think even in Philly, like there were times where they were set up to be so good.

00:55:11 I mean, they had that team with him, Redick, Jimmy, Tobias Harrison and Bede.

00:55:15 They didn't make it past that Kawhi Raptors team.

00:55:18 Obviously, they were the title team.

00:55:21 I agree.

00:55:22 I agree.

00:55:23 They were good, but that's effectively JJ Redick and four non shooters.

00:55:28 Try to be.

00:55:29 Well, if he's one of your if he's your second best shooter, then that's probably not a great.

00:55:35 It's not perfect.

00:55:36 Spacing lineup.

00:55:37 No, it's not perfect, but I just don't think like he he just he's mentally weak.

00:55:43 Like you just see like asked out of Philadelphia after things didn't go well.

00:55:47 Hasn't really played for Brooklyn, like went on the Redick pod last year and was like,

00:55:52 poor me.

00:55:53 It didn't do it.

00:55:54 Hasn't really like done anything to just get himself back out there.

00:55:57 I don't know if I really believe in that.

00:56:00 I'm not saying your take is outrageous.

00:56:01 It makes sense, but I just think Ben Simmons is just like a weird character where it's

00:56:07 just not going to work.

00:56:09 Mine is that Zach Levine sucks.

00:56:11 I just don't think I don't think he's a winning player.

00:56:14 I don't think that his stats are positive.

00:56:18 I don't care how many points he averages.

00:56:19 I don't think you're putting them on it.

00:56:21 You know, it could happen.

00:56:22 Putting them on a team that's going to be really successful.

00:56:24 It just doesn't feel that way.

00:56:26 It feels like Chicago has done everything they can to build a successful team around

00:56:29 him.

00:56:30 Make no mistake.

00:56:32 It hasn't all worked out perfectly.

00:56:34 Boosevich, kind of an old school player, needs the ball down low to Rosen.

00:56:38 Old school needs the ball in the mid range.

00:56:40 Like there's a lot of issues with the current core when they had Lonzo healthy.

00:56:44 They were very good.

00:56:45 They were towards the top of the conference.

00:56:47 So in fairness to him in that respect, but it's just one of those things like, I don't

00:56:53 know, it hasn't been proven wrong yet.

00:56:55 So I'm going to stand on it that I'm just not impressed with them.

00:56:58 I'm not.

00:56:59 Where did this hate for Zach Levine start?

00:57:02 Like I don't even understand where I don't even remember.

00:57:04 I just think people started comparing him to like Jalen Brown.

00:57:07 And I was like, this is ridiculous.

00:57:08 The guy's never even like been competitive in the playoffs.

00:57:10 He's never played in those tough games.

00:57:13 And I mean, they had that one series against Milwaukee where they took a game off him.

00:57:17 I think the game they won, he didn't play in.

00:57:20 All right.

00:57:21 I'm Jalen Brown is better than Zach Levine.

00:57:23 Obviously, the defense.

00:57:24 I think I just got sick of seeing those posts.

00:57:26 And I was like, what are we doing?

00:57:27 Like this isn't even close.

00:57:29 I think I agree.

00:57:30 Jalen Brown's better player.

00:57:31 If you put Zach Levine in the position Jalen Brown's been put in, like, of course, you

00:57:38 would have won more.

00:57:39 It hasn't happened yet.

00:57:40 All right.

00:57:41 Like he just he's played like four playoff games.

00:57:45 He's been the league as long as Marcus.

00:57:48 Are we really going to go back and look at the teams?

00:57:49 I don't want this to turn into me defending Zach Levine because that's what it always

00:57:52 turns into.

00:57:53 But are we really going to compare the teams Jalen Brown has had to the teams Zach Levine

00:57:56 has had?

00:57:57 No, like Jalen Brown has been undoubtedly set up for success.

00:58:00 Make no mistake.

00:58:01 Levine should have more than four playoff games played in nine seasons if he's legitimately

00:58:06 like a positive impact player.

00:58:09 You think if Jalen Brown was on the same team Zach Levine was on, they would have been the

00:58:12 playoffs more.

00:58:14 Maybe.

00:58:15 You really can't say.

00:58:19 I don't know, man.

00:58:20 Especially in the conference finals.

00:58:21 It's tough to point at that, but I don't think it's the most egregious thing.

00:58:27 This is your nothing you can say that changed the opinion.

00:58:29 Yeah, this is like you just can't change my mind.

00:58:32 Like Zach Levine, he's playing against me and the boys were going to win.

00:58:37 Looking at some of these things here.

00:58:38 Sons win the championship in 07 of Dion and Mario aren't suspended for putting their tippy

00:58:42 toes on the court.

00:58:44 That's funny.

00:58:45 This guy with the Spurs tag.

00:58:47 There has been some rigging done in the draft lottery.

00:58:49 I think everyone's kind of in on that one.

00:58:51 Everybody's like an agreement.

00:58:54 The camp Peyton Sonics teams were the best was the best to lose to the Bulls in the finals.

00:59:00 It's very random.

00:59:01 Kobe isn't topped in all time.

00:59:04 Sure.

00:59:05 Kevin Durant should get his jersey retired in OKC.

00:59:08 I think that's I would agree.

00:59:11 I think he should.

00:59:12 I don't know, man.

00:59:13 That's like the Ray Allen thing here.

00:59:15 Except Durant's literally the best player that's ever been on that team since they moved.

00:59:19 So it's a little different, but and he also played on the team for more than what?

00:59:23 How many seasons?

00:59:24 Two, three seasons.

00:59:25 Allen was on the team for five years.

00:59:27 Durant was on the team from since they arrived till 2016.

00:59:31 So what?

00:59:32 Seven years in OKC itself.

00:59:34 Four, five, six, seven, eight, nine years.

00:59:37 No, no, no.

00:59:39 Since they actually got to Oklahoma.

00:59:41 Eight years with OKC, but nine years with the franchise.

00:59:43 Yes.

00:59:44 Because like Sean Kemp's jersey is retired for the you know, I'm saying like, no, no,

00:59:47 I get it.

00:59:48 It's like, I don't know.

00:59:49 That's a tough one.

00:59:50 Like, I think the way you leave kind of does matter.

00:59:52 Like they didn't win a title.

00:59:55 It's not the Celtics.

00:59:56 It's not a title or bust franchise.

00:59:59 But yeah, I do think there is some something to be said about the way you leave a team.

01:00:05 That move with Durant is like the ultimate villain move like ever.

01:00:09 He went and joined the Warriors, which we already talked about today, oddly enough.

01:00:13 And he did it after OKC got beaten by the Warriors and they had the Warriors on the

01:00:16 ropes.

01:00:17 So how how as a player on that Thunder team, do you come back the next season and think

01:00:23 to yourself that you can't beat the Warriors if Durant stays?

01:00:26 I don't think.

01:00:27 And I'm a Katie guy like that's my guy.

01:00:29 I like him.

01:00:30 But I think at the end of the day, they will retire his number.

01:00:33 They've already let guys wear it.

01:00:36 They've given it to like practice team guys.

01:00:38 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:00:39 I believe you.

01:00:40 I forget.

01:00:41 I think PJ Dozier was given thirty five.

01:00:42 Three of player.

01:00:43 Preach it over and never played in OKC, did he?

01:00:47 I could be.

01:00:48 I don't know.

01:00:49 But I don't know.

01:00:51 I remember seeing like the game to some dude that was like, who's this guy?

01:00:55 Which was clearly like a slight.

01:00:57 They were like, here, go out there, Jimmy, and wear this.

01:01:01 Thirty five to wear eleven players.

01:01:05 You're right.

01:01:06 PJ Dozier in twenty eighty and while I look at you, holy shit, I don't know.

01:01:09 I didn't even know he played there.

01:01:11 Yeah, he did wear it.

01:01:12 He's the only one since I don't know.

01:01:15 I think they should.

01:01:16 Other other teams here.

01:01:17 Dame is not a winning basketball player.

01:01:19 I disagree with that.

01:01:20 That's the Levine take.

01:01:21 I disagree, though, because except Dame's one playoff series before.

01:01:25 Yeah, except except Dame has literally won multiple playoff series on game winning shots.

01:01:32 Somebody said, I want a good doll.

01:01:36 Somebody said replace Kyrie with Dame.

01:01:38 Then I agree.

01:01:40 I think that's unfair as well.

01:01:42 It's going to be stayed in shape.

01:01:45 Possible injuries are bad.

01:01:47 Yeah, good.

01:01:48 Yeah.

01:01:49 Unless they happen to get your team.

01:01:50 They're like, yeah, Paul Pierce was the best one.

01:01:53 The one competitor for LeBron throughout his career.

01:01:56 That matchup doesn't get nearly enough respect.

01:01:57 It's bad.

01:01:58 You just all being such a headline.

01:01:59 Now you got me fired up.

01:02:01 That's facts.

01:02:02 People disrespect Paul Pierce all the time and actually he wasn't the greatest rival

01:02:05 that that guy ever had.

01:02:07 Like an individual like back and forth rival, they had beef like the Celtics teams when

01:02:11 he was on the Cavs, went back and forth with him, went to Miami to compete with Pierce

01:02:15 and Garnett and Allen to make it more competitive team.

01:02:18 Yes, that's facts.

01:02:20 LeBron has come out and said that Pierce is his best rival.

01:02:23 OK, if you want to if you want to go like purely the rivalry like the Curry Warriors.

01:02:29 Yes.

01:02:30 Yes.

01:02:31 OK.

01:02:32 Yeah.

01:02:33 Cool.

01:02:34 Just making sure.

01:02:35 I think that's all I got, though.

01:02:36 Nothing else.

01:02:37 I think that's all I got.

01:02:38 Yeah.

01:02:39 Good one.

01:02:40 There was another one on here.

01:02:41 I don't think I'm going to end up using it, but when I made the sheet this morning, it

01:02:42 was the one I was going to go with.

01:02:44 Biggest broke the code moment in NBA history.

01:02:46 I'll just go through some of the top replies.

01:02:48 I'm sure it's going to be a better one by the time we do another talk.

01:02:51 Someone said reminder that KG was out there trying to nibble on motherfuckers.

01:02:55 Does that mean?

01:02:58 Brian Coangelo wearing collars that are way too big.

01:03:02 Broke the dress code.

01:03:03 Nobody said Reggie Reggie Evans grabbing testicles.

01:03:08 I haven't interesting.

01:03:09 I'm not going to don't Carlos Boozer spray painting his hair on.

01:03:13 Oh, I forgot about that.

01:03:15 I saw that today.

01:03:17 That's one of the top ones.

01:03:19 No one said Wade pulling Rondo's arm out of his socket.

01:03:22 I mean, are pulling him down and dislocating his elbow.

01:03:24 You can also see the Olympic pulling.

01:03:26 Love.

01:03:27 Yeah.

01:03:28 Yep.

01:03:29 I saw another hair one, Kieran Butler for like one episode of ESPN had hair and then

01:03:33 he never had hair again because he got bullied.

01:03:36 Carmelo calling Jeremy Lin's contract ridiculous.

01:03:40 Elton Brand bailing on Baron Davis after convincing him to sign for the Clippers.

01:03:45 That's brutal.

01:03:46 Oh, I say that one again.

01:03:48 Say it again.

01:03:49 I was not aware of this before I read this comment, but it makes sense.

01:03:52 Like Elton Brand recruited Baron Davis to go play for the Clippers and then dipped and

01:03:57 went and played for Philly.

01:03:59 It's funny.

01:04:00 God is that funny?

01:04:01 Yeah, we don't have to spend too much time on that, but there's going to be I like the

01:04:06 Reddit post.

01:04:07 I think it's good.

01:04:08 I enjoy the last one on the nothing.

01:04:11 Also, let us know.

01:04:13 Yeah, let us know.

01:04:14 And the other one.

01:04:15 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:16 The last one I saw on the no back down was Steve Nash is better than Steph Curry.

01:04:20 And I was like, I don't know what that one.

01:04:22 Also Steph Curry, one of the podcasts that if he could give out rings to anybody, he'd

01:04:25 give them to Steve Nash and Reggie Miller.

01:04:27 That's the other thing I remember off the dump.

01:04:29 But all right, let's get into the rat list here.

01:04:31 Snub Chuck.

01:04:32 Yeah.

01:04:33 You know, he specifically said I would not choose Chuck.

01:04:36 Actually, he said I would not give one to Chuck.

01:04:39 And OK, let's do let's do ratless.

01:04:42 And you want to kick us off here?

01:04:43 We got a heater.

01:04:44 Yes, I have major beef.

01:04:46 You want me to fix the background?

01:04:47 I'll put it on.

01:04:48 You talk.

01:04:49 I'll put that there out on the screen.

01:04:50 I got it.

01:04:52 Major beef.

01:04:54 This is the state of Rhode Island.

01:04:56 This is this has been an ongoing thing for this construction.

01:04:59 No, no, no.

01:05:00 Oh, this has been an ongoing thing for the last like almost two months now.

01:05:04 So I've had this driving saga.

01:05:06 It has finally come to a clean, clean conclusion.

01:05:11 But it is not come to a conclusion without hardship.

01:05:16 I thought I may lose my license for a month.

01:05:19 Didn't only had to pay a fine.

01:05:21 Plus, the three people ahead of me in court did everything they could to try and make

01:05:25 the judge angry.

01:05:28 So I go through court, pay my fine.

01:05:30 Now when you leave court.

01:05:32 The guys like, hey, you can't pay today.

01:05:34 We have to process all of this.

01:05:36 And you pay online tomorrow.

01:05:38 Fine, I pay.

01:05:40 It's all taken care of.

01:05:42 I come home on Sunday.

01:05:46 To receive a letter that was received by us on Saturday that says, notice of license

01:05:52 suspension reason not appearing in court slash paying fine active September 25.

01:06:00 So I go to call the state offices for the DMV on Monday.

01:06:09 Monday, Rhode Island celebrates as the only state in the nation victory over Japan Day.

01:06:15 So it's a state holiday.

01:06:17 These people are not working.

01:06:19 I didn't realize this until like 10 calls to the DMV.

01:06:24 And then I was like, oh, yeah, okay, everybody's off today.

01:06:27 So I called him yesterday.

01:06:29 And I'm like, hey, I paid I showed up in court.

01:06:33 Why did I receive this notice?

01:06:35 And they're like, oh, no, you're good.

01:06:37 Everybody that appears in court gets one of these.

01:06:40 And I was like, what?

01:06:42 I was like, so you must get calls like this all the time.

01:06:44 They were like, yeah.

01:06:45 I was like, why do you send out notices that people's licenses are going to get suspended?

01:06:50 Did you ask them this?

01:06:51 Yes.

01:06:52 And they were like, well, it's just kind of a reminder, like it's meant to be a reminder.

01:06:56 It's like then say reminder, pay your fine or you will get your license suspended.

01:06:59 Don't say, hey, your license is suspended because you didn't pay a fine when you did.

01:07:05 I was anxious like three days over that.

01:07:06 I was going to write a list the last time, but I wasn't sure.

01:07:09 I didn't want to say.

01:07:10 They were like, no, you're good.

01:07:12 I was like, you check.

01:07:13 They like check.

01:07:14 Case closed.

01:07:15 That's so don't.

01:07:18 And they automatically get sent out.

01:07:19 So why would you send that out the day of like they don't even give you a chance to

01:07:24 pay.

01:07:25 It's automatically sent.

01:07:26 Like there should be like a five day grace period where you don't get like mentally bullied

01:07:31 by the state.

01:07:32 Yeah.

01:07:33 Like the state doesn't like put you a gunpoint and be like, hey, I know you paid, but just

01:07:38 just remind your pet.

01:07:39 Terrible.

01:07:40 Yeah.

01:07:41 Yeah.

01:07:42 That's that's horrendous.

01:07:43 That's that's that's.

01:07:44 I like went into shock for 90 seconds on Sunday because I thought like they went to the monitor

01:07:49 and like doubled back on the decision to just find me.

01:07:52 I was just texting and driving, but like I'm an anxious person.

01:07:55 So things build up.

01:07:56 No, no, no.

01:07:57 I didn't do anything.

01:07:58 If you didn't hear the last part, I agree.

01:08:01 I'm going to rat list moving my sister, Grace, into school.

01:08:04 She is an RA activity.

01:08:06 So she moved in early, right?

01:08:08 Yes.

01:08:09 Now I'm going to write a list of manual college on name drop.

01:08:11 Don't care if you go to a manual, your school sucks.

01:08:15 We get there right.

01:08:17 First off, left at nine thirty traffic getting the Boston bad.

01:08:21 Not fun.

01:08:22 You know, there's a whole day, whole day around.

01:08:23 So I'm going to start from the top.

01:08:25 Get in the car.

01:08:26 Already not looking forward to it because we leave in like 30 minutes late because my

01:08:30 mom gets a phone call that she has to talk like answer.

01:08:32 So my sister and they're just waiting by the door.

01:08:33 Right.

01:08:34 Rat list having to wait 30 minutes, get out the door.

01:08:38 Extended the day was not happy.

01:08:39 And I already woke up early and I didn't sleep well last night.

01:08:41 Get on the road two minutes and I call my mom like, hey, just let you because I don't

01:08:46 know like the route.

01:08:47 Perfect.

01:08:48 I'm an anxious driver.

01:08:49 I have road rage.

01:08:50 I don't like driving in the city.

01:08:51 I take the T to avoid it.

01:08:52 We talked about this two minutes in the drive.

01:08:54 Call my mom.

01:08:55 We're going here.

01:08:56 Right.

01:08:57 She goes, yeah, just follow me.

01:08:58 I'm like, OK, fine, that works.

01:08:59 Look down, don't have gas, have to stop the gas station.

01:09:02 Pissed.

01:09:03 Whatever.

01:09:04 Best little reroute.

01:09:05 Get to the gas station.

01:09:07 Can I tell you that every FedEx truck in the county of Bristol County decided to be at

01:09:12 that one exact gas station at that time?

01:09:14 There were literally five FedEx trucks in the gas station parking lot, along with two

01:09:17 gas tankers.

01:09:18 I wonder if that's a diesel fuel thing, because I was driving this weekend and I passed a

01:09:23 gas station and the diesel price was all zeros.

01:09:26 So they were definitely out of diesel.

01:09:28 So I wonder if that was like the gas station that had it like that's the only one with

01:09:33 diesel like they have a 24 hour.

01:09:35 It was a 24 hour cumbies, so they probably got some diesel.

01:09:39 But I was mad.

01:09:40 Got in the parking lot, just amazed getting around these people.

01:09:43 And then the trucks are so big that my mom and I are trying to go out the exit and another

01:09:46 car was coming and they had to reach on the brakes and let us go because they weren't

01:09:49 fucking paying attention either.

01:09:51 Surround us that get on the highway.

01:09:52 It's fine.

01:09:53 Traffic inbound was annoying because I was trying to follow my mom and cars kept cutting

01:09:55 in between us.

01:09:56 So I was getting frustrated.

01:09:58 Whatever.

01:09:59 Finally, get there.

01:10:01 We go past these cones to get to a certain area.

01:10:04 The campus police comes up and say just like he was very nice.

01:10:07 He was like, you're supposed to be here.

01:10:08 Right.

01:10:09 I'm like, yeah, we're allowed to be here.

01:10:10 We're just moving stuff in.

01:10:11 So I was I was already irritated.

01:10:14 Right.

01:10:15 You know how when you move into school, I know you were a commuter, but you move into

01:10:18 school, they have these like these bins for you to wheel around.

01:10:21 Right.

01:10:22 You can wheel your stuff.

01:10:23 They have.

01:10:24 I don't know, but I would imagine that.

01:10:25 Yeah.

01:10:26 Yeah.

01:10:27 They have these big bins they can wheel.

01:10:28 Yeah.

01:10:29 Not for our A's.

01:10:30 That's for when the students move in.

01:10:31 So we got no bins.

01:10:32 There was nothing.

01:10:33 There was nothing to help.

01:10:34 So I think that's a little more respect.

01:10:36 You think so?

01:10:37 I'm pretty sure they do get like free housing.

01:10:38 Is that true?

01:10:39 It's a percentage.

01:10:40 And then the second year, they get free housing.

01:10:41 But no, no, no.

01:10:42 Yeah.

01:10:43 Yeah.

01:10:44 True thing.

01:10:45 No.

01:10:46 Yeah.

01:10:47 That's standard.

01:10:48 Or it's very cheap the first year and then 100 percent off like every second, third

01:10:51 or fourth year you do it.

01:10:52 She's going to do it for this year and then next year because she's getting into her junior

01:10:57 year.

01:10:58 Yeah.

01:10:59 So we get there.

01:11:01 We there's no there's no wheelie stuff.

01:11:03 But my mom brought this dolly, right?

01:11:07 This thing to like wheel stuff in now.

01:11:09 My mom gets very mad when I put her on the rat list, right?

01:11:14 This is like a three three pod streak.

01:11:17 She's on.

01:11:18 She's on a heater.

01:11:19 She's on a heater.

01:11:20 Do you remember gym class when those rollie things you had that you would roll on just

01:11:25 the pads?

01:11:26 That's the thing.

01:11:27 That's what we were like.

01:11:28 Imagine like a wakeboard with wheels.

01:11:31 Effectively that was what we had.

01:11:32 Yes.

01:11:33 And she brought that.

01:11:34 No, no, no.

01:11:35 Yeah.

01:11:36 Boogie board.

01:11:37 Right.

01:11:38 She brought that and bungee cables to tie that to keep the stuff in place as it rolled.

01:11:40 I guess you have to work with what you got.

01:11:43 It was not effective.

01:11:44 It was terrible.

01:11:45 They had a dolly inside, though, right?

01:11:47 Like they had something you could roll.

01:11:48 It was very small, but they had something you could roll inside.

01:11:52 It was basically like a miniature, a miniature version of the things they have at Home Depot.

01:11:57 It's got the excuse me.

01:11:59 It's got the handles.

01:12:00 You push it.

01:12:01 However, no, there's no ramp.

01:12:04 There's no ramp into the building.

01:12:05 It is.

01:12:06 That's not very inclusive.

01:12:09 Not at all.

01:12:10 It's 2023.

01:12:11 They don't have a wheelchair ramp into the building.

01:12:12 No, not in the front.

01:12:14 And we couldn't access the back.

01:12:15 So no.

01:12:16 So we had to carry everything.

01:12:17 Was there a mom was back?

01:12:20 Maybe but we don't have access that.

01:12:22 So I wonder, I wonder if it's a lawsuit.

01:12:24 Emanuel College.

01:12:25 Right.

01:12:26 It's just going to rob them.

01:12:29 You start carrying stuff in.

01:12:30 We get the first set up and then we're like, OK, let's start using the dolly.

01:12:33 My mom was hell bent on using this dolly and we weren't parked directly in front of the

01:12:38 building so we could just carry stuff, get it inside, put it inside.

01:12:41 There was like I'm trying to think like how far was it was like a hundred, 200 foot walk,

01:12:47 which isn't long.

01:12:48 It wasn't like we were walking across the campus, but it was just long enough where

01:12:52 using the dolly is useless, but it's annoying to have to carry it that distance.

01:12:56 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:12:58 Yeah.

01:12:59 Because there was construction on campus and so there was a giant hose running across

01:13:02 the sidewalk.

01:13:03 So you have to lift the dolly over it every time to use the dolly and go across the sidewalks

01:13:08 and a sewer great in between the two sidewalks where they split up.

01:13:11 And so my mom was just starting piling stuff on this dolly and I'm like, mom, this isn't

01:13:15 working.

01:13:16 She's like, I'm going to use it.

01:13:17 And so I just started picking stuff off the dolly and carrying it myself.

01:13:20 She got really mad and put the dolly away.

01:13:22 So we put out, we took a bunch of trips back and forth, back and forth to the car, got

01:13:26 in front of the building, took more trips back and forth, back and forth up these three

01:13:30 miniature flights of stairs.

01:13:31 There were like full flights, but like sets of five stairs or like three sets of five,

01:13:35 four sets of five stairs getting into the place we needed to be.

01:13:39 And then we got it all there that we put it all in a dolly, brought it all the way to

01:13:43 the elevator, left it in front of the elevator, took trips up the elevator, got it up to the

01:13:47 fourth floor, fourth floor, got all around the corner, got in front of room.

01:13:52 So that took forever.

01:13:53 That was annoying.

01:13:54 It took an hour, maybe an hour and a half just to get all that stuff up and sounds like

01:13:58 you got exercise clearly.

01:13:59 Yeah.

01:14:00 Yeah.

01:14:01 Annoying.

01:14:02 It was like a piece of cake.

01:14:04 I will be.

01:14:05 I have some leftover Mexican food in the fridge.

01:14:07 I'm going to be eating later.

01:14:08 I case it.

01:14:09 The mind you, I just want I want everybody to understand right now.

01:14:16 We have written out what our rat list will be on our show.

01:14:18 I'm not done.

01:14:19 See, Jack is two bullet points out of five into the store.

01:14:23 I'm not done.

01:14:25 No AC in the building.

01:14:27 Zero.

01:14:28 I is maybe 80 degrees in this building.

01:14:31 Eighty five.

01:14:32 And I'm lugging stuff back and forth all around, bringing a bunch of shit.

01:14:36 That was terrible.

01:14:37 Luckily, Grace has this like industrial sized fan she put in a room.

01:14:40 So like the room was OK after a little while.

01:14:43 Yes.

01:14:44 But it was it was truly like truly horrible.

01:14:48 It was horrendous.

01:14:50 No, it was cooler outside than in the US.

01:14:53 It was terrible.

01:14:56 And then.

01:14:58 My sister brought way too much shit, ratless, grace, just obscenely way too much stuff.

01:15:02 I'm sorry, I don't care.

01:15:05 We filled two full cars with the seats down in the back.

01:15:08 Useless.

01:15:09 So pissed.

01:15:10 Right.

01:15:11 So excuse me.

01:15:12 Sorry.

01:15:13 Right.

01:15:14 Let's go for that story.

01:15:15 One of the things she brought was a mirror.

01:15:18 And you asked, oh, yeah, of course you bring a mirror or whatever.

01:15:21 First of all, we get there.

01:15:23 Grace brought two mirrors.

01:15:24 I look at my mom.

01:15:25 I said, Mom, I will bet you twenty dollars there is a fucking mirror in the room.

01:15:29 We get there.

01:15:30 There's a mirror bolted to the back of her closet door.

01:15:32 In the room.

01:15:33 No, there was a mirror.

01:15:35 The mirror she brought one was like a wall mirror.

01:15:37 It's a big circle.

01:15:38 It's fine.

01:15:39 Whatever.

01:15:40 It's useless.

01:15:41 The other one was a five foot tall mirror.

01:15:44 That weighed like that weighed like 20 to 30 pounds.

01:15:49 For what?

01:15:50 Why do we put a mirror in a dorm room?

01:15:54 What are we doing?

01:15:56 Like like it'd be one thing, right?

01:15:59 There's nothing to prop this up on.

01:16:01 If you want to look in the mirror, I'm going to be standing up on YouTube.

01:16:03 You have to you have to be like bending down to use the mirror unless you're four foot

01:16:08 tall.

01:16:09 How tall is your sister?

01:16:11 Like five, six.

01:16:12 So she's going to be like bending down.

01:16:14 And guess what?

01:16:15 The mirror is five feet.

01:16:16 It is.

01:16:18 But it's on the floor.

01:16:19 It's on the ground.

01:16:20 It's not a lancet.

01:16:21 Like if she leans it against the wall, you can use it.

01:16:24 I don't care.

01:16:25 I don't care.

01:16:26 It's stupid.

01:16:27 It's literally it's just now listen, I understand there is a mirror in the room.

01:16:30 So all of these points are valid.

01:16:31 Like two mirrors already had a mirror top and the mirror that's on the closet door is

01:16:36 literally elevated so she can just stand in front of it.

01:16:41 The mirror that we brought is just standing in the corner and she's making a fun house.

01:16:44 The reason I was I was so mad I was so mad at the mirror is because it was like one of

01:16:51 those things that you can't carry anything else.

01:16:53 I was mad at the mirror.

01:16:56 You're carrying this five foot tall, 30 pound mirror upstairs.

01:16:58 I can't have something in my other hand.

01:17:00 Right.

01:17:01 This was a one trip item.

01:17:02 Yeah.

01:17:03 One trip items are the worst.

01:17:04 No, I can.

01:17:05 I carried it myself.

01:17:06 But like I could.

01:17:07 That was my one trip.

01:17:08 I was a one tripper.

01:17:09 Right.

01:17:10 So there's that.

01:17:11 The worst thing I carried all day.

01:17:12 And this is another rat list.

01:17:13 Cases of water bottles might be my least favorite thing to carry.

01:17:16 They're not heavy.

01:17:17 Those are tough.

01:17:18 They're not heavy.

01:17:19 They're just awkward.

01:17:20 They're just heavy enough where it's annoying, but they're not like they're not the right

01:17:25 like size where you can like profit up somewhere.

01:17:26 You just have to kind of hold it awkwardly and carry.

01:17:28 They usually have like like where there's openings on the side where you can grab them

01:17:33 though.

01:17:34 Yeah.

01:17:35 But when I'm piling other stuff on top of it to make one trip, that stuff starts to rip.

01:17:37 So I've got to carry it underneath and walk like an idiot.

01:17:39 That's something.

01:17:40 What else do I got?

01:17:42 Angry cabinet.

01:17:44 Oh, great.

01:17:45 This this this was where I got mad.

01:17:47 This was this was like the anger peak of the day.

01:17:49 Now, did you act out?

01:17:51 What do you mean?

01:17:52 Like, did you let everybody know you were angry?

01:17:54 OK, absolutely.

01:17:55 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:56 No, I broke this cabinet almost like I broke this cabinet.

01:18:00 OK, it's still functional, but it's a little broken.

01:18:03 So Grace bought this cabinet for her room, right?

01:18:07 Because she lives in a fucking penthouse.

01:18:09 Apparently, she bought this.

01:18:11 It's just like I don't want to describe it.

01:18:13 I bet I can find it.

01:18:14 Let me see that runs in the family.

01:18:15 You shopping for the penthouses and then I was our a dorm is a penthouse.

01:18:20 I was so yeah.

01:18:21 Right.

01:18:22 I forgot that I was so mad.

01:18:23 I don't even like know if I could find an image to like explain what this is.

01:18:29 So Grace brought her own cabinet to college.

01:18:32 Yes, but she brought it in the box.

01:18:34 It was not built.

01:18:36 It was not built.

01:18:37 So so who had to build it when we got there?

01:18:39 You did me.

01:18:40 I had to build it.

01:18:41 And it wasn't one of these things where you pull out of the box.

01:18:43 They have those stupid little wrenches.

01:18:44 No, I needed a screwdriver and a hammer to get this done.

01:18:48 So they did not provide you with the tools to.

01:18:50 No, do the job.

01:18:51 No.

01:18:52 And I was hoping I'd be like, oh, you need this.

01:18:53 And Grace would be like, oh, yeah, damn, we'll build another time.

01:18:55 She goes, no, I brought that stuff.

01:18:57 I'm like, all right, great.

01:18:58 I'm really glad you brought it sitting on the ground.

01:19:01 But the way the construction worked was the first like five portions were just you put

01:19:06 these little pegs and you connected them together.

01:19:08 And then at the end you would nail everything in a big leg together.

01:19:12 Yes.

01:19:13 But the issue with that was the pieces kept fucking falling off when you tried to move

01:19:17 it anywhere.

01:19:18 Were you so I know because you can tell.

01:19:20 Oh, they're just pegs.

01:19:21 No, that's the thing.

01:19:23 You can't take it apart, though, because I did nail it in and screw it in at the end.

01:19:26 So we nail them.

01:19:27 OK, so but that part only happens at the end when you box it all in.

01:19:31 So at the start, when it was just the shell, it was just like the middle shelf and the

01:19:35 in the the sides.

01:19:37 It was just like loosely fitted together.

01:19:39 And so whenever I tried to move it or adjust it, it would fall, it would fall, it would

01:19:42 fall.

01:19:43 They'd get in the way.

01:19:44 And at one point I just smacked it and it like chipped open a little bit somewhere.

01:19:47 So she got some chips in it that I was mad.

01:19:49 And then it took me like an hour and a half to build this one cabinet.

01:19:54 And I was so mad.

01:19:56 And at one point, like, I don't know if there was like, you know, the styrofoam packing

01:20:00 stuff, it like got near me and I threw it away.

01:20:03 But it like floated in the air and fell on me.

01:20:05 And I threw it away again.

01:20:06 It floated in the air and fell on me.

01:20:08 I just started snapping it in half and I threw the quarter.

01:20:11 This sounds like it was like you're like it was Oppenheimer.

01:20:15 This was my.

01:20:16 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:17 This was your I was going to say it, but I didn't know if you want me to say it.

01:20:19 No, I say this was your atomic bomb.

01:20:22 I say it too often.

01:20:25 That was all.

01:20:26 That's what that's what Monday's holiday was celebrating, by the way, that that I couldn't

01:20:30 call the DMV.

01:20:32 That was terrible.

01:20:33 And building furniture is a rat list as well.

01:20:35 It's truly horrendous.

01:20:37 So that made me mad.

01:20:38 Good rat.

01:20:39 We got tasty burger at the end, so I was happy eventually.

01:20:43 But and also getting to hammer in the nails on like it was just like the backing things

01:20:47 you said.

01:20:48 You're cathartic.

01:20:49 Yes, I was sitting there smiling.

01:20:51 Nobody's getting those nails out.

01:20:53 No, no, no.

01:20:54 How did you hold up in all of this, by the way?

01:20:57 It's fine.

01:20:58 My ankle hasn't been as badly.

01:20:59 It's definitely still very swollen, but I think up and down the stairs.

01:21:02 Yeah, no, I was good.

01:21:03 I got my Crocs on.

01:21:05 We were good.

01:21:06 All right.

01:21:07 You just have four rat lists, by the way, today.

01:21:08 We got plenty of room for it.

01:21:09 This is 10 minutes in and we have done a quarter of it.

01:21:12 Yes, we're going your turn.

01:21:15 I'll throw it to you.

01:21:16 A rat list, Emanuel College rat list.

01:21:18 People who drive cars that either used to be police cars or they look like this.

01:21:23 These cars.

01:21:24 This is a great rat list.

01:21:25 If you are like driving one of those cars, you are the worst person ever.

01:21:31 They should not even sell cars that are the same model as police cars.

01:21:36 That even look like it.

01:21:37 I don't care if it's not the same brand, if it looks anywhere like it.

01:21:40 Well, and not to cut you off.

01:21:41 If you've got the bumper thing on the front, you're the worst.

01:21:43 I had somebody, I was driving through a neighborhood this morning that was riding my ass in one

01:21:48 of these cars.

01:21:49 Horrible.

01:21:50 And it was a morning where it wasn't extremely warm out.

01:21:54 It was misty.

01:21:55 So I couldn't see super duper clear out my back mirror or back window.

01:21:59 Right?

01:22:00 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:01 And I'm like, I'm in a black Ford SUV with the bumper on it behind me.

01:22:05 And I'm like, all right, well, I can't speed.

01:22:08 I just talked about being afraid of losing my license for like five.

01:22:11 Of course.

01:22:12 Of course.

01:22:13 Right.

01:22:14 So now I'm like angel driving.

01:22:15 Like I'm like, okay, I'm stopping at the stop signs is everyone knows I'm not a fan of.

01:22:19 And I have this guy riding my ass in the neighborhood.

01:22:21 I'm like, what is going on here?

01:22:23 So if you are driving one of those cars, you are the absolute worst.

01:22:26 You didn't go to ball this weekend, Jack, but on the way to two 95 from the gym, there

01:22:33 was somebody's car clearly used to be a police car, had the blue stripe on the side of the

01:22:37 bumper on the front.

01:22:39 It was like it was a sedan version parked right next to the road.

01:22:44 Nobody in the car.

01:22:45 I had somebody that was driving, say, Hey, there's a police car.

01:22:48 Watch out.

01:22:49 I was like, no, I saw on the way there.

01:22:50 It's just somebody's car.

01:22:51 Yeah, it's awful.

01:22:52 First of all, how are people buying police cars recent?

01:22:56 Yeah, I don't get it.

01:22:58 Is there like a Craigslist or Facebook marketplace where cops are just like, yeah, all right,

01:23:02 like this one, the police department's like, we need some extra money that the tax taxpayer

01:23:07 dollars are not enough.

01:23:10 I ran into something like this today because I told you I was following my mom to the school

01:23:15 and I may or may not have run a red light in Boston because I was trying to follow her.

01:23:20 Right.

01:23:21 And as soon as I get through the very that should be allowed, by the way.

01:23:24 Yeah.

01:23:25 Like if you get pulled over for running a red light, just be like, I was following that

01:23:27 guy.

01:23:28 Yeah.

01:23:29 And as soon as I got through that, definitely still yellow light.

01:23:33 I see this car turned down.

01:23:34 It was a Chevy, but it was like it looked it looked the model.

01:23:37 I was like, please, God, don't ruin this morning for me.

01:23:40 And then they turned eventually.

01:23:41 But I was like, fuck you for even speaking of like that.

01:23:45 The mother that got me for texting was undercover.

01:23:48 Oh, it was not a Ford police car.

01:23:51 Yeah.

01:23:52 Yeah.

01:23:53 Right here.

01:23:54 Like all the cop cars are Ford's.

01:23:55 It was undercover and they got me.

01:23:58 Ratless.

01:23:59 That's horrible.

01:24:00 Hopefully this is the last time I have to talk.

01:24:01 I have to talk about that saga.

01:24:03 What a mess that was.

01:24:05 But yes, that's all.

01:24:06 If you're if you're driving a car that looks very similar to police car, ratless that's

01:24:10 awful.

01:24:11 Speaking of cars, I was driving home today.

01:24:16 Right.

01:24:17 I was driving home.

01:24:18 I was driving separate cars.

01:24:19 I know relatively how to get home, but I happen to be behind my mom at this point.

01:24:23 And so.

01:24:25 When you are on the highway, right, and there's you're in the far right lane because our exit

01:24:29 was coming up.

01:24:31 You're supposed to take turns, right?

01:24:32 One car goes, then the car comes on the on ramp.

01:24:34 Another car goes.

01:24:35 Yes, we were not in traffic.

01:24:37 We were fully like driving like we were fine.

01:24:39 And so one car went up and cut my mom off and got in front of her.

01:24:43 And I see another car coming back.

01:24:44 And I'm like, all right, there is about 10 cars lengths behind me.

01:24:48 There's an obscene amount of room behind me.

01:24:50 And I don't think he's like he has to yield because if you're on the off ramp, you yield.

01:24:54 That is how it works.

01:24:55 And so I'm like, let me speed up.

01:24:56 I'll get behind my mom close so he can just go behind me.

01:24:58 Right.

01:24:59 Right.

01:25:00 Because I'm thinking, OK, he's not even fully down yet.

01:25:01 I'm not going to cut him off.

01:25:02 I'm just going to like, let me speed up.

01:25:04 Let him go behind me.

01:25:06 This fucking asshole speeds up, rides next to me in the breakdown lane to the point where

01:25:14 I'm just like, let me just slow down a little bit and let you fucking go around me.

01:25:18 He speeds around me in front of me.

01:25:19 I flip him off.

01:25:21 Right.

01:25:22 As you do.

01:25:23 He stops, gets back in the breakdown lane, opens up his window and goes, come here.

01:25:30 And so I drive by him and I wave and I say bye.

01:25:32 So when I just passed him like what?

01:25:36 What the fuck are you doing?

01:25:38 It was like one of those moments.

01:25:39 He definitely thought he was like this big alpha tough guy, but he definitely just got

01:25:42 a tiny fucking penis and he's compensating for something.

01:25:45 It pissed me off.

01:25:46 So it made me so deeply angry.

01:25:50 Like like you had fucking ten cars behind me and you just had.

01:25:56 And granted, there wasn't a lot of space in between me and my mom.

01:25:59 There was maybe like a car to half gap there.

01:26:01 So he would like if he had gone in front of me, I would have had to put on the brakes

01:26:04 to let him go.

01:26:06 Or he could have just fucking gone behind me like a normal human being that has a fucking

01:26:10 brain and just go on with his day.

01:26:13 But he had to be a dick.

01:26:15 He's like stared me down as he was like riding towards the breakdown lane at the end of the

01:26:19 merge lane.

01:26:21 And like like he goes, what are you doing?

01:26:23 I'm like, dude, there's like I can barely even see the car behind me and you're making

01:26:28 a big deal of this.

01:26:29 So I flip him off and he comes and he goes, what?

01:26:30 And I just stared at stare him down and like wave and say, like, yeah, fuck you.

01:26:33 See you later, buddy.

01:26:34 And I kept driving.

01:26:35 Have I done the procedure?

01:26:36 I wish I could drive a tank thing on here.

01:26:39 Yes, you have.

01:26:40 And in that moment, that's right.

01:26:42 Like if I had a tank, see you, buddy.

01:26:44 Enjoy the guardrail.

01:26:47 I was safely unbelievably angry.

01:26:50 I was borderline not safely in this case.

01:26:53 I was so mad he had to go.

01:26:56 Oh, that was that was awesome.

01:26:58 He's a piece of shit.

01:26:59 He goes beyond the route list.

01:27:00 He deserves like, oh, prison.

01:27:03 Go get like prison.

01:27:05 That's the prison list.

01:27:06 That is that is one of those.

01:27:08 If you break this unwritten rule, go to jail.

01:27:10 You're an asshole.

01:27:11 See you later.

01:27:13 That's prison time.

01:27:14 That's a fine.

01:27:15 That's show up in court.

01:27:16 Get the message from Rhode Island.

01:27:18 I was I was so mad because this was after all the moving in stuff that I was like angry

01:27:22 at and then more driving stuff on the way home.

01:27:25 My mom and I get stuck behind people who just decide to go like 30 miles an hour in a 40.

01:27:30 So we're just driving there angry from all day is terrible.

01:27:33 It was awful.

01:27:34 It was.

01:27:35 Sorry.

01:27:36 I'll continue.

01:27:37 All right.

01:27:38 So this is a good one.

01:27:39 I've been waiting all day for that, by the way.

01:27:40 I've been waiting for.

01:27:41 I can tell like this is this is the best ratless we've ever done.

01:27:44 Maybe it might even be title material like greatest ratless of all time.

01:27:48 Like Chris stops injury news.

01:27:51 Greatest ratless of all time.

01:27:52 It's just up there.

01:27:54 I will say.

01:27:57 Ratless the white trash Avengers that hang out by the basketball court near my house.

01:28:01 I saw this on the sheet.

01:28:04 Yeah.

01:28:05 So Jack has been to this.

01:28:07 He came and he played at the basketball court with me and a couple of friends before.

01:28:11 So he's been to this area now.

01:28:13 They were the white trash Avengers were not there.

01:28:17 This is a new bunch.

01:28:18 This is a new thing that's started to happen at the OB basketball court.

01:28:23 Me and the boys would go play there sometimes.

01:28:24 Yesterday I just went by myself because nobody want to play and I wanted to shoot around

01:28:27 have a little bit of fun after work.

01:28:30 So I pull in the lot.

01:28:32 And this is like the like the bunch that's like really into cars like they drive like

01:28:38 old cars but they trick them out like they have super cool engines and all that stuff

01:28:43 like they had their hoods open.

01:28:45 We called them the kids in high school.

01:28:47 Yeah.

01:28:48 Like they're all hanging out by the court which is fine like hang out like do whatever

01:28:50 you want.

01:28:52 This also stems back to a couple of weeks ago I was there.

01:28:54 We were all playing like a good amount of us.

01:28:57 And do they just kept like multiplying like every time like we went up and down the court

01:29:02 we looked over and there was more of them and they're all like slamming back booze

01:29:06 in the parking lot and the best like the ringleader is this like 10 year old kid and he's like

01:29:13 out there just like smoke weed.

01:29:15 He doesn't care.

01:29:17 He can't be old enough to like be in middle school yet but he's out there running around

01:29:21 like he's always there.

01:29:23 I swear to God these people like they're just always there that the basketball court has

01:29:27 become the new hangout just to like just like go be hoodlums.

01:29:31 Like I sound like an old man but it's less about that.

01:29:34 It's just like dude like why are all these white trash like people around here.

01:29:39 The hoodlum word was the peak.

01:29:41 Yeah.

01:29:42 No no no.

01:29:43 This is Sam yells at cloud but it's a weird thing.

01:29:46 It's like not kids being kids.

01:29:47 It's just like like this does not need to be happening.

01:29:50 Like go do this somewhere else.

01:29:53 That's good.

01:29:54 Why is no one like I was like almost like I almost have like a call the cops moment

01:29:58 but like I was around like I was like looking over my shoulder like see if they were like

01:30:02 trying to go gonna go in my car.

01:30:04 Sam turns Karen and goes I'm not Karen but like I mean my man Timmy's just running around

01:30:11 like ripping cigs like a little Timmy like he's 25.

01:30:17 Well Timmy global to the rat list the white trash of course of course we got to run it

01:30:22 back a moment.

01:30:23 Trucks on highways.

01:30:26 I cannot express to you enough.

01:30:28 Trucks should not be allowed on highways.

01:30:30 Banish I think there should be a designated roadway truck highway.

01:30:34 That's what I was going to say.

01:30:36 There should be a truck highway because it is one thing when there's a truck in the right

01:30:40 lane and you can pass them.

01:30:42 It is another thing when there's a truck in the left three lanes and you can't really

01:30:45 do shit.

01:30:46 It's another one.

01:30:47 It's both lanes and it's another when there's a fucking asshole in a gray Honda going less

01:30:53 than the speed limit in the third lane over and then there's a truck in the next lane

01:30:58 over you just you're just fucking stuck because people are passing you on the left passing

01:31:03 you passing you passing you because you can't do shit.

01:31:05 You can't go back into the far right lane because the trucks right here go in the exact

01:31:08 speed which he's not doing anything wrong.

01:31:10 He's just a truck which fuck you and then there's somebody going too slow.

01:31:14 So I'm stuck here going 60 miles an hour with a truck going 65 right next to me so I can't

01:31:19 do shit for maybe like five to 10 miles.

01:31:22 There's nothing worse than infuriating.

01:31:25 It was painful and the best part is I'm just fucking fearing for my life because that truck

01:31:29 tips over.

01:31:30 I'm dead like straight up.

01:31:31 I'm fucking gone.

01:31:32 I got no chance like I've got a route for I've got an okay car.

01:31:36 This fucking Shaw's truck that's driving tankard.

01:31:41 I got there is nothing worse than when they just like wall up like Trump in his prime

01:31:46 on the highway.

01:31:48 It's awful.

01:31:49 I truly don't get it and like you said yeah when there's like a bunch of them like oh

01:31:56 my God last year I was driving home from New York and this truck was like determined to

01:32:01 go faster than me so he kept going into far left lane to pass me and I was going like

01:32:05 75 so this giant 18 wheelers going like 85 to pass me and then going 70 in front of me

01:32:12 so I'm like passing him like all right well I'll just go past you I assume like you're

01:32:15 just found a comfortable speed leapfrog.

01:32:17 He kept passing me and then he kept like I don't know if he was purposely trying to run

01:32:21 me off the road but he kept like encroaching on my line trucks need to be banished.

01:32:25 I don't care if I can invent teleportation invent something so they don't have to fucking

01:32:29 exist anymore.

01:32:30 I'm over it.

01:32:31 They've got to go ban them or or find somebody better.

01:32:36 UPS drivers make 170 K let them do fucking everything.

01:32:40 You see that today UPS drivers got a new bump in salary because their union which good for

01:32:44 them I mean shit I wouldn't want to drive a UPS truck ready to go work at UPS buddy

01:32:48 but man trucks on highways not allowed it just get it out.

01:32:53 But here's the thing the alternative to that is them on like regular roads that don't have

01:32:57 multiple lanes also true also terrible banished trucks I don't care just 18 wheelers gotta

01:33:02 go.

01:33:03 I just don't like that I can't see around them.

01:33:05 I don't like yes I don't like I don't know what's going on around me.

01:33:08 Agreed they've got to go.

01:33:09 I don't care.

01:33:12 Next one kind of full circle here.

01:33:14 The New England Baptist Hospital injury report.

01:33:18 It's something that I would like to never see again.

01:33:20 I kind of love how much I hated it.

01:33:22 I love that you dropped the hospital full name or go not even I can't be like any B.H.

01:33:27 because nobody knows what it means.

01:33:29 You know what I know what it means.

01:33:30 I've seen it too many fucking times.

01:33:33 That's why I would prefer not to see that in mid August.

01:33:36 Really hate it.

01:33:39 That's flashbacks.

01:33:40 It's a tweet of all time.

01:33:42 New England Baptist injury report.

01:33:44 Terrible.

01:33:45 They really picked a terrible thing to sponsor.

01:33:48 I would say ratless the hospital but they probably do like help people.

01:33:51 So I would assume people.

01:33:53 But I tell you now if I'm in my day many a time if I'm in an ambulance bleeding out and

01:33:58 they say hey you can go here or here.

01:34:00 Not going.

01:34:01 Yeah.

01:34:02 Actually yes.

01:34:03 Spite won't use the hospital.

01:34:04 They can say it's a 10 minute journey.

01:34:07 You could reach.

01:34:08 Yeah.

01:34:09 Good point.

01:34:10 Oh my God.

01:34:11 What a ratless.

01:34:12 You know what.

01:34:13 Power rankings of hospital hospital that rules Hasbro.

01:34:17 You know why they make toys.

01:34:19 Same people.

01:34:21 That's why.

01:34:22 I didn't even know those a thing.

01:34:26 Yeah.

01:34:27 Oh my God.

01:34:28 Rhode Island.

01:34:29 Shout out Boston Children's because my family lived there as kids.

01:34:32 We just keep getting fucking.

01:34:34 Henry taking naps.

01:34:36 Yes.

01:34:37 But Henry also Henry got hit with a golf club in the face and we got hit with.

01:34:40 Oh that's right.

01:34:41 You got.

01:34:42 Was it you that got hit with a bat too or just him.

01:34:44 Both of us.

01:34:45 We both.

01:34:46 Yeah.

01:34:47 Yeah.

01:34:48 Well actually Henry got hit in the face with a bat.

01:34:49 That's a Simone family tradition like all the boys like have to get hit in the head

01:34:52 with a baseball bat like when Jack Henry eventually have children like they got to go in the backyard

01:34:57 and get whacked.

01:34:58 Well I've told my story.

01:34:59 I was running laps in the field and some dude was taking practice things I hit.

01:35:02 Henry got hit in the face with a bat twice.

01:35:05 Twice.

01:35:06 The first one he was very young and trying to teach.

01:35:09 He's trying to teach Grace how to bunt.

01:35:12 And so he got up real close to like pitching the ball and she didn't.

01:35:16 Oh.

01:35:17 She just she hit him and hit him in the lip and you like split his lip open or something.

01:35:23 This is not like the fun like people just getting like murked that I like.

01:35:27 I don't I don't like this stuff.

01:35:28 Oh.

01:35:29 And then the other time he got hit in the head with the baseball bat it was me.

01:35:35 And I was taking practice and my crime.

01:35:37 I was taking the Mafia on the other side of the driveway.

01:35:42 But I just I actually let go of the bat.

01:35:45 That's really bad luck.

01:35:46 If you get drilled with a flying bat and it it flew across the driveway and hit him right

01:35:52 in the eye.

01:35:53 So he was like is it Floyd Mayweather whose eye was just like this and like a ball.

01:35:58 It was he was like that for like two weeks like in terms of like funny looking injuries

01:36:01 like swollen eyes got it.

01:36:03 It was it was bad.

01:36:05 And he got hit with the face of the golf club too because we had this like putting green

01:36:08 thing in our basement when we were kids and my sister was putting and she got mad and

01:36:12 she swung it around and we took a beating man.

01:36:19 What else.

01:36:20 Other hospital things I was running around when I was three I put I slam my chin on a

01:36:25 cabinet and bit through my tongue.

01:36:29 We were we were hospital kids man.

01:36:30 We they knew us.

01:36:32 They knew us by name.

01:36:33 Shout out Boston Children's.

01:36:34 We can tell those stories that like later on but we are an hour and 40 minutes into

01:36:38 our recording so we will wrap up here.

01:36:41 Thank you guys so much for listening.

01:36:42 If you listen to this whole show you're a true fan.

01:36:45 We appreciate you for tuning in.

01:36:47 Hopefully you like the rat list.

01:36:48 That was a 33 minute rat list for you guys.

01:36:50 Maybe a top show of all time that we've done this because we had real news.

01:36:54 We did 50 minutes on the Celtics.

01:36:56 We barely did NBA stuff which people tend to not like but when there's stuff we have

01:36:59 to talk about it.

01:37:00 Then we did the rat list for a half hour.

01:37:02 I mean even NBA stuff we did like 18 minutes of NBA.

01:37:05 It's not like we didn't do NBA like we did stuff.

01:37:08 We had the Reddit post.

01:37:09 Yeah.

01:37:10 So we had a lot of stuff but thank you all for tuning in.

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01:37:23 Were there any rat lists we missed.

01:37:24 Did we miss any rat list that I didn't even look at the rat list man.

01:37:27 It's weird.

01:37:28 Our 40 and better at this.

01:37:29 We'll catch up on the next time.

01:37:32 Yes.

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