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Teyana Taylor And Director A.v. Rockwell On Harlem-set Tale, 'A Thousand And One'
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8/17/2023
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As someone who is a transplant from the South
00:03
who lives in Harlem right now,
00:04
even I felt like certain aspects of the movie
00:06
just hit differently by living in the neighborhood
00:09
right now, even seeing the 2000s aspect
00:12
and seeing the part of City on 125th in the film,
00:15
I was like, wow, this is so great.
00:18
So for both of you, to have that connection to New York,
00:21
why was this film such a personal story
00:23
for you as a director and writer,
00:24
but also you as an actress?
00:26
Because I feel like it kind of both loves New York,
00:29
but also critiques New York at the same time.
00:32
It kind of, New York itself is kind of like a character
00:34
in the movie.
00:35
So what was the personal story
00:37
that drew you to do this project?
00:40
- Yeah, I mean, I think I wanted to tell a story
00:43
that honored the era in New York that I grew up in.
00:46
It was just kind of me saying farewell to that time,
00:48
but I think there was also a sense of urgency
00:50
in wanting to see how the change was impacting communities
00:54
that were most vulnerable in the city.
00:55
And I think seeing gentrification firsthand
00:58
and how that was reshaping New York
01:00
in a way that it felt like black communities
01:02
were being pushed out altogether and being erased,
01:04
like as if we never happened.
01:05
I think I'm a New York City kid
01:07
who loves it through and through.
01:08
And so it's like, how do I feel about the fact
01:11
that the city feels like we were being targeted by?
01:13
It's like, the city doesn't love me.
01:15
You know, I think I really, in so many ways,
01:16
wanted to make this movie to reconcile that,
01:19
but also to shine a light
01:21
on the negative impacts of gentrification,
01:24
'cause people really had tried to argue
01:26
for the way people are supposed to be benefiting,
01:27
but it's not supposed to benefit the groups that are there,
01:31
the population that already exists in these communities.
01:33
So I really wanted to shine a light on how it works
01:36
and who it impacts and what that impact looks like.
01:38
- Yeah, yeah.
01:39
- For me, it was definitely a bittersweet,
01:42
you know what I'm saying?
01:43
Because in that era of INAE,
01:47
it's like I was Terry's age, you know?
01:49
So at that age, you know,
01:50
we didn't really understand what was going on,
01:51
but, you know, we remember all the things
01:54
that was so accessible, you know, the block parties,
01:57
the cookouts, how mama and pop, it felt like,
02:00
it was like one big family in Harlem.
02:03
And now, you know, it's just, it's so quiet.
02:06
So to go back home, of course,
02:08
I was excited to go see my friends and, you know,
02:11
and just go to all my favorite food spots
02:14
and my favorite spots,
02:15
so to go there and see that a lot of it
02:17
had been erased on top of just a lot of the seasoning salt
02:22
that was on there.
02:23
It was a lot more bland than Nantes fried chicken,
02:26
you know, than this fried chicken, you know,
02:28
it was giving me more of an uncooked baked wing,
02:30
you know, it was just like, it was a lot to take in.
02:34
And it was even emotional for us to have to rebuild out
02:37
the sweet spots in Harlem, you know,
02:41
it was the bittersweet.
02:42
Yeah, you know, it's like, I'm okay with evolution
02:45
and everybody evolves and different things like that,
02:47
but like a lot of the changes that was being done in Harlem
02:50
wasn't to benefit my community,
02:51
it was to push us out, you know?
02:54
So it was definitely emotional to see
02:55
how much change there were and how unaccessible
02:59
the things that my community needed was.
03:02
- Yeah, yeah.
03:03
And I wanna speak about going through
03:05
different time periods in the movie.
03:07
Like, was that always the, you know,
03:09
when you were crafting the story,
03:10
did you always know that you wanted to touch
03:12
different decades and periods of time?
03:14
And also for you, how was that, you know,
03:16
portraying Inez in two different periods of time?
03:18
Because you feel like, I feel like she,
03:21
she has more life experience,
03:22
like once she comes on screen immediately
03:24
during the next part of the movie,
03:26
we see that she's, I wouldn't say as jaded,
03:28
but like she's gone through so much where you can just,
03:30
even though we're not told exactly what that is,
03:32
we just feel it.
03:34
- I mean, in a sense, I feel like Inez
03:35
has been like gentified, you feel what I'm saying?
03:38
Like she was just so vibrant and, you know what I'm saying?
03:41
And she slowly starts to lose that vibrant accent.
03:45
Her voice is getting lower and lower,
03:48
she damn near is to a place where she doesn't have a voice,
03:51
like that spunk.
03:52
So it's sad to see her change just as much as New York,
03:57
you know what I'm saying?
03:59
And that's the emotional part about it.
04:01
And it was really emotional getting into it
04:03
because we didn't shoot in order.
04:05
So one day I had to be vibrant, young, colorful New York,
04:10
you know what I'm saying?
04:13
And then you see New York become more and more gray
04:16
and more and more glass,
04:17
and you see Inez become more gray and more glass,
04:20
you know what I'm saying?
04:21
Even just the deepness and the heaviness into that
04:24
was definitely a lot.
04:26
- And it was intentional.
04:27
I think just in the ways that I saw parallels
04:30
in the story of New York
04:32
and the way it lost the sense of personality
04:34
as it tried to become a lot more like everywhere else,
04:37
I feel like that in so many ways,
04:38
that is the journey of black women.
04:40
We're not accepted as we are,
04:41
we're not accepted for the things
04:42
that make us unique and special.
04:43
It's like everybody does want to quiet us down.
04:46
- We're tore down.
04:47
- Torn it down.
04:48
- They tear us down, they tear us down,
04:49
like they tear down our whole building
04:51
and rebuild us to be what they want us to be.
04:53
- Yeah, you have to lose that sense of who you are
04:55
in order to be loved by everybody.
04:56
And I think that, I saw an article recently
04:59
that said the sound of gentrification is quiet.
05:01
And I was like, that's what I've been trying to portray
05:04
in this movie.
05:04
And it's like, that is exactly right.
05:06
But I think black women are also told that like,
05:09
maybe if you were a bit more quiet,
05:10
maybe if you talk a certain way,
05:11
maybe if you walk a certain way,
05:13
then maybe life would be better for you then.
05:15
- Or you wasn't so miserable.
05:16
- Considered being miserable for being strong is crazy.
05:20
You know?
05:21
And then in the same nutshell,
05:22
somebody to tell you why you didn't fight back
05:23
on a certain thing.
05:24
It's like, oh, okay, cool.
05:25
So my spiciness is beneficial when it benefits you.
05:29
But when it's to uplift myself, it's a problem.
05:31
- Yeah.
05:32
And that's, Inez, you know,
05:33
portrays that beautifully in this film.
05:35
Love it so much.
05:37
Thank you both so, so much for your time.
05:39
And I cannot wait to, you know,
05:40
to watch this with more people
05:41
because I know more people to do.
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