‘2 Dope Queens’ Interview Michelle Obama for Final Podcast The comedy podcast hosted by Jessica Williams and Phoebe Robinson is ending after three years. “The podcast was created as a space for female, POC and LGBTQ performers to shine … We—and by we, we mean YOU—showed the world that people want and need to hear more diverse voices.” - Jessica Williams and Phoebe Robinson, via statement The pair discussed a wide range of topics with their special guest, Michelle Obama. The former First Lady talked about the meaning behind her famous phrase, “when they go low we go high.” “I’m not gonna pretend like I'm not angry. But if I'm trying to move an issue, if my anger doesn't work to move the issue, then it's not helpful… And that's what going high means. Going high means you don't ignore it. Going high doesn't mean you don't acknowledge the fear. Usually your goal isn't to just be angry." Obama said she tries to encourage her daughters Sasha and Malia to overstep a little “because sometimes with women you don’t step up enough.” “You don't use your voice enough because you're told that you’re mouthy or you’re bossy or to be quiet... I want to practice boldness." The former First Lady also revealed why she would have brunch with Oprah over a show-stopping Beyoncé concert. “I pick the brunch, not because I don't love Beyonce concerts. As you know, I go to all of them, and I love watching my girl perform, but I choose a conversation…you can't do that at a concert.” She recently released her book, ’Becoming Michelle Obama.’ A ‘2 Dope Queens’ special will be heading to HBO in 2019.