Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Conversation with Mr. Vaad Attai, the representative of Iraqi Al-Itijah TV for Turkey (A9 TV, October 4th, 2012)

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TARKAN YAVAŞ: Mr. Vaad Attai of Al-Itijah TV will do an interview with our Master Mr. Adnan Oktar. Al-Itijah is a news station in Iraq that broadcasts in English and Arabic to Europe, Asia and Africa. Please you go on my Master.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, that is one of the big, important channels of Iraq. Yes.. Welcome. You've brought pleasure

VAAD ATTAI: Thank you very much.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha’Allah, you've brought honor to us. Masha'Allah, masha'Allah.

TRANSLATION: Master, before all else he thanked you for receiving us. He addressed you as Sheikh Adnan in Istanbul. He said that he thanks you very much for receiving him and that he is honored by this.

ADNAN OKTAR: May Allah be pleased. Our brothers honoring us in this way in Turkey, our being in contact with them and talking with them are blessings from Allah. Go ahead, let me take your questions.

TRANSLATION: Master his first question to you is this; he is curious about this tension between Syria and Turkey. "Could the reason for this tension be the work of the great imperialist powers and the masons?" he asks. Then he goes on to say, "Could this tension have been created so that Muslims in the region be weakened in relation to Israel and for American interests to function more smoothly?"

ADNAN OKTAR: Well if we consider the truth of the matter the whole fault lies entirely with Muslims. They should love one another.  They should feel affection for one another. Wahhabis are radiant Muslims. Shiites, Alawites, Bektashis and Sunnis are all radiant Muslims. Muslims must love one another. Some of the ulema (scholars) are very arrogant and pleased with themselves, they look down on other people. And they encourage Muslims to be arrogant and pleased with themselves. For instance, some Sunni scholars preach to hate Shiites and to regard themselves as far superior. And some Shiite scholars teach their people to hate Sunnis, and to regard themselves as vastly superior. The same goes for Wahhabis. Some Wahhabi scholars regard themselves as very superior. They encourage the belief among their people that states; “You are real Muslims, but they are not.” These things are all artificial and unnecessary. They are all radiant Muslims. For example, my brother here is an Arab. He is a dear brother of mine. And you for instance have Turkish origins and you are my brother. I have Arab blood and Turkish blood and the blood of sayyids, for example. We are all descended from the Prophet Adam (pbuh). There is totally artificial, satanic duplicity going on here. Masons would not be involved in such a thing. I know all about Freemasonry. I know all its details. We even enter their lodges. We know all about everything, right down to the finest detail. This is not the work of masons. It is the work of Muslims. And there is such a self-centeredness and arrogance. Pride is one of the greatest problems in the Middle East. They are all very proud people. Most of them have this terrible arrogance. For instance some Kurds have a formidable pride. Turks also have a formidable pride. Arabic proud is freakishly strong among some of them. That is what underlies the matter. There is no reason for us not to be friends with Iraq, for instance. There is no reason whatsoever, it is all totally artificial. If we could organize an intermediary and meet Maliki and find an intermediary among Turkish officials and have them talking. This would all be resolved very easily all at once. A totally artificial tension has grown up. It is the same with Syria. Al-Assad is afraid now. He is now in a state of panic. There is a civil war. Strange things are going on. People are tense. The dissidents are out for revenge. And because the others are worried for their own skins, in order to avoid that revenge they think that they should kill them and annihilate them at all costs. And these ones believe that the others will kill them if they don't kill the others before.  Look, do you see how satan has brought them to a deadlock? A crazy rage and hatred prevails. They hate one another. But if there were an intermediary to say, "What is happening here? Wait a minute and come here.." If they all sat down and asked "what is it that you cannot share?" the matter would be resolved at once. Al-Assad is not the kind of person who will not listen to reason. He is in fact a compliant person. Yet of course the secret state organization in Syria is encouraging events as well. These secret states are a real scourge. The Iranian secret state is a grave scourge as well. And so are the Russian secret state in Russia and the American secret state in the US. They do not listen to freemasonry or anything. They are completely separate. These are the organizations of assassins, assassination organizations. I mean these are Mafia organizations. They use the masons when necessary of course. They use some of the masons. They cannot use

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